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Title: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 10:09:48 AM
We offer you to purchase profitable LTC casino - LTCircle.com

http://www.ltcircle.com


The casino is running two days and have earned 4.1 LTC without any propagation (only main thread on BitcoinTalk).
 - 1st day - 1.8 LTC
 - 2nd day - 2.3 LTC

Casino is not even mentioned on forum.litecoin.net, yet already such earnings in just two days from starting.

Administration: http://admin.ltcircle.com

Screens from administration:

http://www.ltcircle.com/content/sell/f1.png

http://www.ltcircle.com/content/sell/f2.png

http://www.ltcircle.com/content/sell/f3.png

http://www.ltcircle.com/content/sell/f4.png

http://www.ltcircle.com/content/sell/f5.png

http://www.ltcircle.com/content/sell/f6.png

Price: 80 LTC (If these daily profits continue, you will get your money back in less than 20 days!)

Casino will be sold to the first interested party, who will pay.

Sale includes the two domain names (LTCircle.com, LTCcircle.com), custom casino system (user interface, administration, etc.).
Sale doesn't include the server !!!

I'll help you set up your server (install LTC wallet, our casino system & DB, etc.), transfer domain, and everything about setting up this casino on zur server.

Everything you need is only 80 LTC (price) and server with any Linux installed. We take care of anything else.

PM me if interested.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Zaih on September 02, 2013, 10:15:40 AM
1 BTC


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 10:26:38 AM
1 BTC

Sended PM.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 10:36:10 AM
Still available


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: frediiii on September 02, 2013, 11:29:52 AM
I take it. see PM and let me know how to proceed :)


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: marcovaldo on September 02, 2013, 12:33:49 PM
Why are you selling it, if it is profitable, and brand new?


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 12:44:47 PM
Why are you selling it, if it is profitable, and brand new?

Good question.

The answer is that I don't wanna profit from human stupidity (like all casinos do), it seems to me as illegitimate business - this business is not making real values for world, just a way how to get some money (this is not making me happy).


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: marcovaldo on September 02, 2013, 12:46:31 PM
Ok. I was just curious because it seems strange to me, and I was thinking "where is the catch?".
You should not have created the casino in the first place if you did not want to make money out of it :P


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
Ok. I was just curious because it seems strange to me, and I was thinking "where is the catch?".
You should not have created the casino in the first place if you did not want to make money out of it :P

You're right. But I didn't know it until I try... :D


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: addi on September 02, 2013, 01:29:09 PM
Why are you selling it, if it is profitable, and brand new?

Good question.

The answer is that I don't wanna profit from human stupidity (like all casinos do), it seems to me as illegitimate business - this business is not making real values for world, just a way how to get some money (this is not making me happy).

I feel that's a little short sighted, basically 90% of all businesses "profit from human stupidity" one way or another.

A casino provides entertainment value in the #1 place. This is something people want to pay for (the house edge).
Right now your business would certainly help litecoin and the adaption/growth of litecoin, I would guess that would count as a "real value for the world" to you.

Casinos are not the root of all evil they might sometimes seem to be. The main reason governments ban them is because they can't get/want a piece of the pie.

If you really feel that terrible about generating revenue why not just donate 90% of it to charity or use it to help grow litecoin?


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 01:41:40 PM
Why are you selling it, if it is profitable, and brand new?

Good question.

The answer is that I don't wanna profit from human stupidity (like all casinos do), it seems to me as illegitimate business - this business is not making real values for world, just a way how to get some money (this is not making me happy).

I feel that's a little short sighted, basically 90% of all businesses "profit from human stupidity" one way or another.

A casino provides entertainment value in the #1 place. This is something people want to pay for (the house edge).
Right now your business would certainly help litecoin and the adaption/growth of litecoin, I would guess that would count as a "real value for the world" to you.

Casinos are not the root of all evil they might sometimes seem to be. The main reason governments ban them is because they can't get/want a piece of the pie.

If you really feel that terrible about generating revenue why not just donate 90% of it to charity or use it to help grow litecoin?

Yes, I understand your angle, but tell me. Do you want to divide the pie, or making the pie bigger?...
You wrote "why not just donate 90% of it to charity", but that Robin Hood did. Just "profit" from stupid people, and give those "profit" to another people who needs. It's nice, but we have not permissions to do it this way..

That's my angle. I'm not saying that my opinion is the most correct, and i respect yours, but just feels it that way.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Boelens on September 02, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
How many players have played on the casino? And did all this traffic come from one thread? Are the people you profited from people who just tried it out, or are there currently recurring players?


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
How many players have played on the casino? And did all this traffic come from one thread? Are the people you profited from people who just tried it out, or are there currently recurring players?

27 people played yet. 12 people are returning (2 and more times playing).


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Boelens on September 02, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
How many players have played on the casino? And did all this traffic come from one thread? Are the people you profited from people who just tried it out, or are there currently recurring players?

27 people played yet. 12 people are returning (2 and more times playing).

Hm, alright. Well, the point is you can't ever be sure how well the profit will be in the end, but advertisements may help a lot. Did you accept Zaih's offer of 1BTC / are you looking for higher?


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Cyberdyne on September 02, 2013, 01:58:37 PM
Interested, taking a look now.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bit777 on September 02, 2013, 02:02:34 PM
We will take it if you make it provably fair for 1.5btc.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 02:04:07 PM
How many players have played on the casino? And did all this traffic come from one thread? Are the people you profited from people who just tried it out, or are there currently recurring players?

27 people played yet. 12 people are returning (2 and more times playing).

Hm, alright. Well, the point is you can't ever be sure how well the profit will be in the end, but advertisements may help a lot. Did you accept Zaih's offer of 1BTC / are you looking for higher?

Current bid is made by Cyberdyne, 1.1 BTC.

EVERYONE! Please, post your bids here from this time.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bit777 on September 02, 2013, 02:05:12 PM
BTC1.5  (if you make it provably fair)


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 02:09:02 PM
We will take it if you make it provably fair for 1.5btc.

Nothing like casino can be provably fair because source code can be anything people can't see... You can make code public, but source code can be different anyway.

If you now about way to make it provably fair, just tell me, and I'll program it that way.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Cyberdyne on September 02, 2013, 02:13:00 PM
We will take it if you make it provably fair for 1.5btc.

Nothing like casino can be provably fair because source code can be anything people can't see... You can make code public, but source code can be different anyway.

If you now about way to make it provably fair, just tell me, and I'll program it that way.

See http://litecoinkamikaze.com for an example (the sha256 hash is shown before the game, and then when the game is finished, the game data which was used to create the hash is shown).

That also brings up another question anyway - What programming language / framework is your site written in?

Edit: Since bit777's bid has strings attached, I will reiterate my bid of 1.1 BTC "as is" (no additional work required on the site before the sale).


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Gwapo on September 02, 2013, 02:18:06 PM
1.3 bitcoin
no contingency
pme me if i win
thanks


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bit777 on September 02, 2013, 03:02:10 PM
I like the way Just-dice has setup their provable fairness. If you can do the same, I will be glad to buy it. Hell, let it be BTC2.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Boelens on September 02, 2013, 03:10:18 PM
Ah, nevermind. With Bit777's bid, it's out of my range of what I'm willing to spend =p. Good luck to who gets it!


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 03:15:41 PM
Ah, nevermind. With Bit777's bid, it's out of my range of what I'm willing to spend =p. Good luck to who gets it!

Well, Bit777 has a complicated requirement for that deal. I do not know how just-dice.com works, so I don't know if we make a deal. You can bid under Bit777's bid, and we'll see.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Boelens on September 02, 2013, 03:20:58 PM
Ah, nevermind. With Bit777's bid, it's out of my range of what I'm willing to spend =p. Good luck to who gets it!

Well, Bit777 has a complicated requirement for that deal. I do not know how just-dice.com works, so I don't know if we make a deal. You can bet under Bit777's bet, and we'll see.

Bid, I assume? =P. I would like it to be provably fair too, my trust is not nearly enough to run a non-provably fair casino, and even if it was I like the idea of my sites (if I ever get a gamling site), being provably fair.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 03:30:49 PM
Ah, nevermind. With Bit777's bid, it's out of my range of what I'm willing to spend =p. Good luck to who gets it!

Well, Bit777 has a complicated requirement for that deal. I do not know how just-dice.com works, so I don't know if we make a deal. You can bet under Bit777's bet, and we'll see.

Bid, I assume? =P. I would like it to be provably fair too, my trust is not nearly enough to run a non-provably fair casino, and even if it was I like the idea of my sites (if I ever get a gamling site), being provably fair.

Thanks, fixed.

Ok, than I make it provably fair like just-dice.com (I understand now), and sell to Bit777 for BTC2. Ok :)


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bit777 on September 02, 2013, 03:41:24 PM
Going in the Litecoin business :)


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: KingOfSports on September 02, 2013, 04:05:38 PM
1.2 BTC as is or 2.25 BTC if made provably fair.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: KingOfSports on September 02, 2013, 04:06:55 PM
Please PM me before selling to bit777, I will most likely beat their offer for this. I don't want their NON provably fair casino being linked to more casinos. They said they would make it provably fair but months later nothing. I'm shocked they're still in the business honestly with provably fair being a norm here in BTC but guess the free giveaways keep people overlooking that aspect. I will beat his offer and will offer you 1.35 BTC actually left as is. 2.25 BTC for the site with provably fair or a bidding war can ensue which is fine by me.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Zaih on September 02, 2013, 04:19:45 PM
3BTC for provably fair.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: KingOfSports on September 02, 2013, 04:20:10 PM
3BTC for provably fair.
BTC3.1


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bit777 on September 02, 2013, 04:21:12 PM
Please PM me before selling to bit777, I will most likely beat their offer for this. I don't want their NON provably fair casino being linked to more casinos. They said they would make it provably fair but months later nothing. I'm shocked they're still in the business honestly but guess the free giveaways keep people thinking hes a 100% fair guy. I will beat his offer and will offer you 1.35 BTC actually left as is. 2.25 BTC for the site with provably fair or a bidding war can ensue which is fine by me.

We actually have 2 provably fair games now :) Why not make them 3.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: KingOfSports on September 02, 2013, 04:22:29 PM
Please PM me before selling to bit777, I will most likely beat their offer for this. I don't want their NON provably fair casino being linked to more casinos. They said they would make it provably fair but months later nothing. I'm shocked they're still in the business honestly but guess the free giveaways keep people thinking hes a 100% fair guy. I will beat his offer and will offer you 1.35 BTC actually left as is. 2.25 BTC for the site with provably fair or a bidding war can ensue which is fine by me.

We actually have 2 provably fair games now :) Why not make them 3.
Make them ALL provably fair. That caesarbit dude has another client similar to yours. All flashy but he was able to find a way to make it provably fair for up to first 50 games or so you play when the box pops out.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bit777 on September 02, 2013, 04:34:07 PM
Please PM me before selling to bit777, I will most likely beat their offer for this. I don't want their NON provably fair casino being linked to more casinos. They said they would make it provably fair but months later nothing. I'm shocked they're still in the business honestly but guess the free giveaways keep people thinking hes a 100% fair guy. I will beat his offer and will offer you 1.35 BTC actually left as is. 2.25 BTC for the site with provably fair or a bidding war can ensue which is fine by me.

We actually have 2 provably fair games now :) Why not make them 3.
Make them ALL provably fair. That caesarbit dude has another client similar to yours. All flashy but he was able to find a way to make it provably fair for up to first 50 games or so you play when the box pops out.

He has 2 games, we have 50+. We are also very busy now with Peerbet and 2 more new provably fair games that are coming next month, and translating the site and games into 29 languages and a bunch of other things. We can work on it just after that. If you are afraid of our non-provable games, play the provable ones. Freedom of choice :)


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bit777 on September 02, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
BTC3.2


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: KingOfSports on September 02, 2013, 04:42:16 PM
BTC3.3


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: frediiii on September 02, 2013, 05:16:49 PM
guys, I already made a deal here and a 50% deposit. awaiting sourcecode now... sorry.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: KingOfSports on September 02, 2013, 05:18:24 PM
I'll pay 85 LTC for it as is.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: frediiii on September 02, 2013, 05:19:28 PM
I'll pay 85 LTC for it as is.

you did read my post, did you? :)


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Boelens on September 02, 2013, 05:45:28 PM
guys, I already made a deal here and a 50% deposit. awaiting sourcecode now... sorry.

Any proof of this? Seems a bit sudden and no confirmation from the owner.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bit777 on September 02, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
Make it provably fair and I will buy just the script for 2btc without the domain or business, regardless if anyone else bought it already.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: frediiii on September 02, 2013, 06:34:44 PM
guys, I already made a deal here and a 50% deposit. awaiting sourcecode now... sorry.

Any proof of this? Seems a bit sudden and no confirmation from the owner.

sure, sure.

we settled at LTC 70 at 12:39 (GMT)

then I had to do some work out of office and I continued conversation via email on my phone.

<<pictures removed>>

at 16:27 GMT when I was back at my work PC I sent out the deposit

<<pictures removed>>

No reply from him since 13:25 GMT though, probably gone out for some beer... In his defense, when he started auctioning, I did not yet pay the deposit. Anyway, I still believe that I'm the first one who actually agreed on terms and sent the agreed amount, so the code + domains belong to me.

Let's see and wait for a reply.

--edit-- don't get confused. The times in thunderbird are GMT+2 (living in Austria)


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
guys, I already made a deal here and a 50% deposit. awaiting sourcecode now... sorry.

Yes, but your payment came too late... I'm sending LTCs back. Please, PM me your LTC address, I'll send you 35 LTC back.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: Boelens on September 02, 2013, 08:04:08 PM
guys, I already made a deal here and a 50% deposit. awaiting sourcecode now... sorry.

Yes, but your payment came too late... I'm sending LTCs back. Please, PM me your LTC address, I'll send you 35 LTC back.

Didn't he send 70?


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 02, 2013, 08:07:34 PM
guys, I already made a deal here and a 50% deposit. awaiting sourcecode now... sorry.

Yes, but your payment came too late... I'm sending LTCs back. Please, PM me your LTC address, I'll send you 35 LTC back.

Didn't he send 70?

No, he send just "one half before"... I was waiting 5 hours for his payment, so i thought he canceled it.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: frediiii on September 02, 2013, 08:43:17 PM
my payment came too late? too late for what?

Casino will be sold to the first interested party, who will pay.

which - except you can proof otherwise - would be me, right?

But greed kicked in, as it seems. So as long as I receive back my funds, it's ok with me. I was mainly interested in the implementation and thought I could use the backend for whatever service I come up with in the future to add value to the LTC community.

Anyway - show the big BTCasino tycoons that you're honorable. send back to LUbxkSpd225KZynwywtPgwvCDUtAgKjoCY and post the transaction details here for everyone to see. thanks.

--edit-- also, a positive trust rating would be nice. I did send the funds ahead...


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: KSV on September 02, 2013, 09:02:19 PM
100LTC

let me know if you are interested.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: uoyeparannog on September 02, 2013, 09:12:16 PM
- Hey, I have brilliant idea! Let's dump IPs of our random users in some shittly screenshot!
- Yay, cool! Fuck the privacy!


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: frediiii on September 02, 2013, 09:33:58 PM
- Hey, I have brilliant idea! Let's dump IPs of our random users in some shittly screenshot!
- Yay, cool! Fuck the privacy!

if you are referring to my screenshot and the ips listed in my mail subjects, those are just ips from which people tried to gain unauthorized access to my server. they have nothing to do with this gambling site, i just ratted them out to the corresponding abuse teams of their ISPs and i give sh*t about their privacy. plus: they are mostly from dynamic ranges anyway...

edit: oops, you probably meant OTs screenshots :)


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: uoyeparannog on September 02, 2013, 09:45:09 PM
Quote
edit: oops, you probably meant OTs screenshots
This Statement Is True.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 03, 2013, 06:13:38 AM
my payment came too late? too late for what?

Casino will be sold to the first interested party, who will pay.

which - except you can proof otherwise - would be me, right?

But greed kicked in, as it seems. So as long as I receive back my funds, it's ok with me. I was mainly interested in the implementation and thought I could use the backend for whatever service I come up with in the future to add value to the LTC community.

Anyway - show the big BTCasino tycoons that you're honorable. send back to LUbxkSpd225KZynwywtPgwvCDUtAgKjoCY and post the transaction details here for everyone to see. thanks.

--edit-- also, a positive trust rating would be nice. I did send the funds ahead...

35 sent back.
Transaction ID: f12fed69ff1e1005de7a556823cf505979e4c7e037eadfda985f2ecca18a9723


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: frediiii on September 03, 2013, 07:10:34 AM
my payment came too late? too late for what?

Casino will be sold to the first interested party, who will pay.

which - except you can proof otherwise - would be me, right?

But greed kicked in, as it seems. So as long as I receive back my funds, it's ok with me. I was mainly interested in the implementation and thought I could use the backend for whatever service I come up with in the future to add value to the LTC community.

Anyway - show the big BTCasino tycoons that you're honorable. send back to LUbxkSpd225KZynwywtPgwvCDUtAgKjoCY and post the transaction details here for everyone to see. thanks.

--edit-- also, a positive trust rating would be nice. I did send the funds ahead...

35 sent back.
Transaction ID: f12fed69ff1e1005de7a556823cf505979e4c7e037eadfda985f2ecca18a9723


confirmed!


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: KSV on September 03, 2013, 07:56:21 AM
Hi,

PM sent. Pls do revert if still interested.

KSV


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: johny1976 on September 03, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
Sold.

Winner:

bit777 - BTC3.2


Thank you for bids.


Title: Re: Profitable LTC casino for sale!
Post by: bitcoinsucker1 on September 04, 2013, 02:24:41 AM
Sold.

Winner:

bit777 - BTC3.2


Thank you for bids.

Congrats bit777!  Was going to see if KingofSports wanted to go in with me!