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Bitcoin => Mining speculation => Topic started by: marketorder on September 04, 2013, 10:24:06 PM



Title: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: marketorder on September 04, 2013, 10:24:06 PM
I was looking on a profit calculator site and with the current difficulty i would made .30 cents a days worth does that sound correct with a 330 mhs usb miner? Would I make more if I was in a pool, what's the best pool and the most I can make in a pool in 24 hours?


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: dbbit on September 05, 2013, 12:07:54 AM
It's closer to 23c a day, and ONLY if you plug it into a device that anyway has to be on. If it doesn't have to be on already, you're negative out of the gate.

I think the best you can do with 1 of these guys is form a solo miner and hope you get a full block payout over its life.

Odds are significantly against you (1 in 1000 if you leave it on 24/7 over the next difficulty period), but that's probably better than the odds of sticking $35 into a Vegas slot machine and hoping for a $3500 jackpot.  But even then it's only worth it if your electricity is otherwise already accounted for.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Xyver on September 05, 2013, 01:58:33 AM
I got one and stuck it in a Raspberry Pi.  Takes <10 watts, so I can run it till the difficulty hits like 2 billion before the BTC produced stops paying for power.

Now the question is, will I make my BTC back before that happens....


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: timk225 on September 05, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
No.  You got screwed, 330 Mhash is NOTHING in today's 86 million BTC difficulty.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: asor on September 05, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
330 means ~0.0020 BTC per day. You'll made .268 cents per day when gox is at $134. You never get back your money, except you using the sun :)


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: alexeft on September 05, 2013, 08:51:04 PM
330 means ~0.0020 BTC per day. You'll made .268 cents per day when gox is at $134. You never get back your money, except you using the sun :)

It doesn't matter what he uses. If he paid for the stick in bitcoin, he will never get his money back.



Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: sampathneo on September 06, 2013, 08:12:09 AM
you can make good profit if you make asicminer farm instaed of one asicminer


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: dbbit on September 06, 2013, 09:33:17 AM
you can make good profit if you make asicminer farm instaed of one asicminer

Only if you can get the asicminer farm for free, or close to it. At this point the absolute max you should pay per GHS is $40 / BTC 0.3.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Ferroh on September 06, 2013, 09:37:16 AM
you can make good profit if you make asicminer farm instaed of one asicminer

If one ASIC miner is not profitable, adding more doesn't make them any more profitable.

If one ASIC miner loses 10% of your money spent on the device, then 5 ASIC miners also lose ~10% of your money spent on the devices.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: k9quaint on September 06, 2013, 03:29:26 PM
you can make good profit if you make asicminer farm instaed of one asicminer

So on one device he loses money, but he will make up for it in volume?
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Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: timk225 on September 06, 2013, 04:58:57 PM
When will people get it through their thick frickin' heads.... IT IS TOO LATE to start mining BTC with ANYTHING except an ASIC farm, and even then you may not make any profit!!!!!


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: asor on September 06, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
You can still make money using USB miners. The one and only question is, if it is possible to get back to ROI and there's only one unknown value in the formula: How long can you mine until your miners is broken. You can use solar or other free power to run your miner(s), but you can't do anything against a broken miner (except to cooling).


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Bitweasil on September 06, 2013, 06:34:26 PM
Solar is not "free power" if you calculate the system costs in...


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: asor on September 06, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
Yep, that's right, but you can also use use the panel without any miner and if you decide to sell the panel you still get nearly 70% back... that's my experience.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Bitweasil on September 06, 2013, 07:39:18 PM
The games people play to try and pretend the USB miners are worth buying make the games that crashed the economy in 2008 look like child's play...


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: timk225 on September 06, 2013, 08:20:33 PM
Ya rly! ;D

Now, if you could STEAL a ton of USB miners, and run a power cord to your neighbors' house, so your investment in hardware and electricity was zero, then yes you could make a profit with them.

So there's your plan.  Find out where Butterfly Labs is located, scope the place out, and grab a few boxes of USB miners and RUN!!!!!


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: bcp19 on September 06, 2013, 08:32:00 PM
Ya rly! ;D

Now, if you could STEAL a ton of USB miners, and run a power cord to your neighbors' house, so your investment in hardware and electricity was zero, then yes you could make a profit with them.

So there's your plan.  Find out where Butterfly Labs is located, scope the place out, and grab a few boxes of USB miners and RUN!!!!!
Great plan... except... BFL don't make the USB miners, ASICMiner does.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: asor on September 06, 2013, 08:38:43 PM
Ya rly! ;D

Now, if you could STEAL a ton of USB miners, and run a power cord to your neighbors' house, so your investment in hardware and electricity was zero, then yes you could make a profit with them.

So there's your plan.  Find out where Butterfly Labs is located, scope the place out, and grab a few boxes of USB miners and RUN!!!!!
Great plan... except... BFL don't make the USB miners, ASICMiner does.

Damn... I'm already in front of the BFL building ;D


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: jamesc760 on September 07, 2013, 02:51:47 AM
"usb miner and profit" in one sentence? Lol. Lmao. Rotfl. You guys are too funny.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Eastwind on September 07, 2013, 09:36:59 AM
"usb miner and profit" in one sentence? Lol. Lmao. Rotfl. You guys are too funny.

It depends on the price of USB miner and cost of total electricity used for mining and the system.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: polarhei on September 07, 2013, 09:42:06 AM
No Profit from this unless you have greater number for a little.

The 330Mh/s may be profitable if you have found a way for ASIC to Scrypt Conversation.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: bcp19 on September 07, 2013, 10:43:07 AM
"usb miner and profit" in one sentence? Lol. Lmao. Rotfl. You guys are too funny.

It depends on the price of USB miner and cost of total electricity used for mining and the system.
I'm still waiting for .01BTC USBs.  Course, they'll probably only make .001BTC at that point. :/


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Bitweasil on September 07, 2013, 02:27:12 PM

The 330Mh/s may be profitable if you have found a way for ASIC to Scrypt Conversation.

There is no way to do that. Period. That you think it's even worth mentioning indicates you have no idea what you're talking about.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: bitboyben on September 07, 2013, 08:06:56 PM
I'd buy some, for the novelty...


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Ecurb123 on September 07, 2013, 08:53:59 PM
I think the best chance to make the ROI is by mining another coin at this point.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: EzCheese on September 08, 2013, 09:58:37 PM
These guys are going for 30 bucks (plus shipping) on Amazon right now, so ROI may be possible if you mine alt-coins and play the exchange game (buy low/sell high). 

I think the best chance to make the ROI is by mining another coin at this point.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: bcp19 on September 09, 2013, 01:38:56 AM
These guys are going for 30 bucks (plus shipping) on Amazon right now, so ROI may be possible if you mine alt-coins and play the exchange game (buy low/sell high). 

I think the best chance to make the ROI is by mining another coin at this point.
Have you checked your options?  Bitcoin, Terracoin, Zetacoin, PPcoin, Freicoin, Bytecoin, Namecoin, Ixcoin and Devcoin.  TRC seems to be the only one higher than BTC in profitability and it could be 51% from a single mini-rig at the moment.  It's not like you can mine Scrypt with it.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Maidak on September 09, 2013, 01:46:37 AM
Terracoin isent scrypt?


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: bcp19 on September 09, 2013, 01:50:29 AM
Terracoin isent scrypt?
No, it was attacked repeatedly in July:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=261986.0


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: azw409 on September 12, 2013, 07:00:08 PM
Actually you've got a 50% chance of making a profit with a USB Block Erupter by solo mining from now until you die. If you're lucky and get a block then you'll get 25BTC+ which should give you a clear profit on the purchase cost plus all the electricity that you've used. If you're not you won't hence 50:50 = 50%.

So, by my simple and unflawed maths, you buy two USB block erupters (= 2 x 50%) and you're certain of a profit :-)


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: ajw7989 on September 12, 2013, 08:14:42 PM
I bought 3 of these never expecting to make an ROI but use them to get into the bitcoin community without having to buy bitcoins with USD. In that aspect it has succeeded


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: timk225 on September 12, 2013, 08:37:35 PM
You bought erupters to join the BTC community?

Dude, you could have not bought any and just lied to us and said you had some.  It's ok, none of us would care enough to want to come to your house and verify what you had running.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: ajw7989 on September 12, 2013, 09:39:08 PM
You bought erupters to join the BTC community?

Dude, you could have not bought any and just lied to us and said you had some.  It's ok, none of us would care enough to want to come to your house and verify what you had running.

First off what a rude comment second you misunderstood. I bought them to mine and use that bitcoin in the bitcoin community. I used that bitcoin to gamble/invest and what not to enjoy it. I have turned that into a lot more bitcoin than I mined from it directly. I am just trying to say its good for a hobby to earn some bitcoin and then decide what to do with that bitcoin


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: azw409 on September 13, 2013, 08:59:51 AM
I can understand that mining is often the only practical way to obtain BTC even if it isn't cost effective.

The problem with USB Block Erupters is that they are now very underpowered compared with what the serious guys are using and so you'll make very small amounts with them and unless you were practically given them, you will never make a ROI - but don't worry the same can probably be said for any mining hardware that is bought now.

It will take you months to accumulate even 0.2 BTC which is only $25 of spending money.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Tobias on September 13, 2013, 07:33:07 PM
What if I am in a dorm room where I don't have to pay for electricity for the next 9 months......? :)


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: bcp19 on September 14, 2013, 01:59:37 AM
What if I am in a dorm room where I don't have to pay for electricity for the next 9 months......? :)
Then you can enjoy your pennies from heaven.


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: YipYip on September 14, 2013, 02:26:32 AM
Look they definately are the gateway drug of choice....

My boss wanted to know what it was all about...

10 x USB BErupters
1x usb hub
1 x bitcoin wallet

& boom he is now an ASIC miner... all from the buyahash.com/shop

No mess no fuss & no BFL,AVALON. etc etc drama  8)


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: Tobias on September 14, 2013, 02:43:25 AM
What if I am in a dorm room where I don't have to pay for electricity for the next 9 months......? :)
Then you can enjoy your pennies from heaven.

Lol. I am now taking offers to host mining rigs in my dorm so you don't have to pay for electricity... You can visit weekly ;)


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: frankenmint on September 14, 2013, 03:27:18 AM
Look they definately are the gateway drug of choice....

My boss wanted to know what it was all about...

10 x USB BErupters
1x usb hub
1 x bitcoin wallet

& boom he is now an ASIC miner... all from the buyahash.com/shop

No mess no fuss & no BFL,AVALON. etc etc drama  8)


lol he got ripped off they only do ASICMINER stuff which is like 10x overpriced...even with the crazy price drops they did.  Hopefully he mines alts too?


Title: Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit?
Post by: plogank on September 15, 2013, 11:59:00 PM
Profit? Well, that would be nice.  I have one USB Block Erupter running now and four more on the way.

I think its just fun.