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Title: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: BunworthBanshee on September 06, 2013, 01:16:55 AM
this guy makes amazing videos, if you have not seen this its a must.

http://youtu.be/0tsUZinrCo8


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: KonstantinosM on September 07, 2013, 06:39:55 PM
I've run across his videos and I like them....

I have to say that many of the things he talks about seem true

I need to further investigate him until I can trust him though.

Let's hope that there is no WWIII and no global economic collapse (although I come from a country that has already collapsed (Greece))

What bugs me the most is all the militarization of the police force in the United States and all the goverment spying programs. They disgust me.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: semaforo on September 08, 2013, 08:54:10 PM
  Yes, I've seen some of these videos. It is pretty clear and logical, so I think it is also plausible. There is always a motive behind every video, and this guy seems to be well intentioned. I'd have to watch the video about what his concept of a revolution is and what his alternate vision is to really be able to judge this video...


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: kneim on September 08, 2013, 09:25:36 PM
I've run across his videos and I like them....

I have to say that many of the things he talks about seem true

I need to further investigate him until I can trust him though.

Let's hope that there is no WWIII and no global economic collapse (although I come from a country that has already collapsed (Greece))

What bugs me the most is all the militarization of the police force in the United States and all the goverment spying programs. They disgust me.
I'm German and have bad expectations about our future. It seems that not only the stupid Germans, but also many people in southern Europe believe that Merkel is right with her austerity politics. This is the modern form of colonization.

Our german super rich export industry and bangster system needs the south Europeans to stay in the EU, because we need to have a low Euro to keep our exports high.

You will never have any chance against Germany, because the stupid people here are working for less and even less money. And if the German workers do not want to work for small money, they will be sanctioned. So in the end, if the Greeks and others try to compete, the pressure in Germany will simply be increased.

If the people understand, and they will at some time, we will get violence or civil wars, and in the case another WWIII perhaps.

The German state is as guilty as the Greeks, because the economists do not understand the simple formula ( sum of all exports + sum of all imports = 0 ). If all states on the earth are exporting, we can export to the moon. But we have to export our weapons, in a large-scale to the Greeks or to Portugal, for example.

Our German newspapers are proclaiming massive attacks against the Syrian state, although they have no proof that they did the toxic gas attack. I believe this is a campaign of the lobbyists of the arms industry.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: semaforo on September 11, 2013, 05:51:35 PM
  To answer the question in the thread title, I would say it is impossible to tell. The guy who made this videos user name is storm clouds gathering and its kind of like guessing when its going to start raining. I am going to guess that the serious action in going to start about 1 year to 18 months from now, and slowly intensify. Of course, this doesn't have to mean world war three- it could really go either way- it could just be a relatively peaceful exposure of the elites and they may freely relinquish power as military refuse to massacre civilian due to information leaks. 


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: tvbcof on September 11, 2013, 06:36:24 PM
"When Will The Economy Collapse?"

My estimate going back to the mid 2000's was 2012.  I was wrong.



Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: semaforo on September 11, 2013, 06:59:35 PM
  You could be right- I mean, it's not the fall that hurts, it's hitting the ground.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: Subud! on September 12, 2013, 01:32:17 AM
There could be an economic collapse if world war 3 happen.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: tvbcof on September 12, 2013, 02:09:57 AM
There could be an economic collapse if world war 3 happen.

Or the other way around more likely.



Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: Spendulus on September 12, 2013, 02:12:16 AM
"When Will The Economy Collapse?"

My estimate going back to the mid 2000's was 2012.  I was wrong.


Maybe not.  I'm reminded of hitting a deer with a good shot, but not a crippling shot.  It may immediately dash off, not knowing they it is already dead.  

Some things economically could definitely have been dead for years and they've been hiding it.  That may be the essential nature of the game, the new normal rather than the rare occurence.

It's rational to worry about war being started to shield and excuse an economic collapse or gradual restructuring, but that is not the only way it plays out.  For example, Argentina 2001, Brazil, Russia (1990) these collapses were not cause by or accompanied by wars.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: ktttn on September 12, 2013, 03:23:36 AM
Before 2045.
Bitcoin's gonna be the padding.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: palatine on September 12, 2013, 07:24:06 AM
I'm from Italy.

From here the picture looks ugly. We have the higher disoccupation-rate ever. 2 millions peope lost their jobs and are not getting them back any time soon.

The State is taxing real-economy (private sector) up to around 52%. Public debt is soaring. Our political class is either corrupt or dumb.

The whole state-sector is running on loans it's never be able to pay back.

Tha worst thing is that, after the financial crisis wiped away all misaligned business, we still had a lot of healthy business that, in present economic conditions, are running the risk of being killed by state overtaxation.

Our weak-point is the state. Its collapse could trigger a change. But I wouldn't call it economic-collapse. It would be state collapse. It certainly will generate econimic distress. Think to all the old people living off state pensions (almost everybody retired here), but it could also free us from state overtaxation, overregulation, corruption and plain dumbness.

Actually it can be any minute.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: zeta1 on September 14, 2013, 02:04:35 PM
Not anytime soon


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: MAbtc on September 14, 2013, 07:58:03 PM
Not anytime soon
This. It'll be a while.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: dank on September 14, 2013, 08:07:15 PM
I'll give it 8 years.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: FinShaggy on September 17, 2013, 03:47:14 AM
The economy has BEEN collapsed. I'm 21 and have never had over $2,000. And things are only getting MORE expensive.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: Nik1ab on September 17, 2013, 03:56:32 PM
I like this videos, finally someone who is telling the truth....


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: Ekaros on September 17, 2013, 05:03:58 PM
Even from Finland it doesn't look rosy... Things going downhill and we are "better off" than southern parts of EMU...

It's suprising how everything seems to be collapsing, but on other hand we haven't really fully run out of energy and such...



Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: MAbtc on September 17, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
The economy has BEEN collapsed. I'm 21 and have never had over $2,000. And things are only getting MORE expensive.
It will slowly get worse for most people, just like it has been for a long, long, long time.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: FinShaggy on September 17, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
The economy has BEEN collapsed. I'm 21 and have never had over $2,000. And things are only getting MORE expensive.
It will slowly get worse for most people, just like it has been for a long, long, long time.

I would be looking at a long path of shit if it weren't for Devcoin. Bitcoin is great and all, but you need money to get involved.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: MAbtc on September 17, 2013, 06:44:27 PM
The economy has BEEN collapsed. I'm 21 and have never had over $2,000. And things are only getting MORE expensive.
It will slowly get worse for most people, just like it has been for a long, long, long time.

I would be looking at a long path of shit if it weren't for Devcoin. Bitcoin is great and all, but you need money to get involved.
You've got my attention. What sets devcoin apart? I mean, I know it is quite cheap and one could acquire a lot with a little... but are you saying you are long term bullish on devcoin, or something else?


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: FinShaggy on September 17, 2013, 07:00:31 PM
The economy has BEEN collapsed. I'm 21 and have never had over $2,000. And things are only getting MORE expensive.
It will slowly get worse for most people, just like it has been for a long, long, long time.

I would be looking at a long path of shit if it weren't for Devcoin. Bitcoin is great and all, but you need money to get involved.
You've got my attention. What sets devcoin apart? I mean, I know it is quite cheap and one could acquire a lot with a little... but are you saying you are long term bullish on devcoin, or something else?

I'm saying I get free Devcoins for writing, and it is basically my only source of (really helpful) income.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: FinShaggy on September 17, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
Check out Devtome.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: Reaper3 on September 17, 2013, 08:02:37 PM
No Nostradamus in the house?


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: MAbtc on September 17, 2013, 08:53:28 PM
Check out Devtome.
What kind of income is realistic on a part-time basis? Per week, or month, etc?  :)


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: FinShaggy on September 17, 2013, 10:29:00 PM
Check out Devtome.
What kind of income is realistic on a part-time basis? Per week, or month, etc?  :)

Per round, which is basically per month.

No set amount, based on shares.

180,000,000 coins per round
1,000 words gets you 1 share of the coins
You can get 80 shares per round
There can be an unlimited number of publishers, but each gets 80 shares max per round. So share sizes are random depending on post counts.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: MAbtc on September 17, 2013, 10:42:08 PM
Check out Devtome.
What kind of income is realistic on a part-time basis? Per week, or month, etc?  :)

Per round, which is basically per month.

No set amount, based on shares.

180,000,000 coins per round
1,000 words gets you 1 share of the coins
You can get 80 shares per round
There can be an unlimited number of publishers, but each gets 80 shares max per round. So share sizes are random depending on post counts.

So based on my rough fuzzy math, if you get the max shares per round, you could expect maybe .5 - 1.5 BTC per round?


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: FinShaggy on September 17, 2013, 10:52:45 PM
Check out Devtome.
What kind of income is realistic on a part-time basis? Per week, or month, etc?  :)

Per round, which is basically per month.

No set amount, based on shares.

180,000,000 coins per round
1,000 words gets you 1 share of the coins
You can get 80 shares per round
There can be an unlimited number of publishers, but each gets 80 shares max per round. So share sizes are random depending on post counts.

So based on my rough fuzzy math, if you get the max shares per round, you could expect maybe .5 - 1.5 BTC per round?


I got $2000 my first round writing 64,000
And at LEAST .5 BTC for 15,000 this round (and DVcoins will be half the price they were when I made $2000 )... So I think your math is a little too fuzzy, lol.


Title: Re: When Will The Economy Collapse?
Post by: MAbtc on September 18, 2013, 12:35:31 AM
Check out Devtome.
What kind of income is realistic on a part-time basis? Per week, or month, etc?  :)

Per round, which is basically per month.

No set amount, based on shares.

180,000,000 coins per round
1,000 words gets you 1 share of the coins
You can get 80 shares per round
There can be an unlimited number of publishers, but each gets 80 shares max per round. So share sizes are random depending on post counts.

So based on my rough fuzzy math, if you get the max shares per round, you could expect maybe .5 - 1.5 BTC per round?


I got $2000 my first round writing 64,000
And at LEAST .5 BTC for 15,000 this round (and DVcoins will be half the price they were when I made $2000 )... So I think your math is a little too fuzzy, lol.

Wow, surprising. I'll have to check this out. Thanks for the tip.