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And this is the third one. After the bitcoin DragonMint 16T miner, and the B52 for Sia, the Decred miner appears. Bitmain has not released anything for Decred yet, the Obelisk DCR1 will be the only competitor for now. No specs have been released yet. So now they name the miners with bomber names? This was definitely a bomb dropped over Obelisk :)

And there is a video featuring Yoshi himself :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53dOF_DIuDU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53dOF_DIuDU)

Nice  :o 8)

Yeah, really nice...
Question is, if Halong Mining is real, what's the price of this miner and when will they deliver?
We will see.

"Nice" is, that you all now can see YOSHI as real person.
 
But I think the "Halong Spam Thread" is somewhere else.

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BACK TO TOPIC - BLAKE 2B
Those Blake machines and the specs sounds great. No need of an Obelisk for 2B.
Bitmain with A3 is still interesting, because they are delivering almost now (March).
But 3,5TH with 1000W (2b) ---- WOW ---- if this is really coming to a delivery batch its amazing what Halong and Yoshi did.

Tripple efficient as the A3 of Bitmain.
And still 50% more efficient then Obelisk. And Obelisk is delivering end of August.

Everything sounds good, but noone has those miners as for now...

Here is the miner in the pool, live at the time of this post at 2.4 TH/s http://uupool.cn/dcr/DsXjqMeEcyvUkHGVAbCkn3WTDXzUbgWHXeu/ (http://uupool.cn/dcr/DsXjqMeEcyvUkHGVAbCkn3WTDXzUbgWHXeu/)

and here's the website updated just today https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-b29-blake256-miner/
seems that we can expect start of sales anytime soon

$10.5K??? Hope that is just the filler before the actual reveal.

EDIT: Nope, that's the price. But, optimistically ROI is 1 month (http://whattomine.com/coins/152-dcr-blake-14r?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=2100000.0&p=900&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate).

Though remember - https://the-mining-calculator.herokuapp.com/
And they haven't actually shipped out a single product to the general public yet!

Wait those numbers are for 1 asic? holy shizz. i'm only starting out with my one little GPU rig but that is crazy, there is nothing out there like this, right?

Any ideas how many units can be in batch1? :)

That's the real question, current profitability numbers don't mean shit without this info.

Max. order is 68000 apparently. Not sure if it is actually the current batch numbers or even a valid quantity. Still, that's amounts to a whole lotta wampum.

That would bring the network hashrate to 143 PH which is exactly 100 times the current. So profitability would be $4-5/day. Of course it would be insane to release 68000 at the same time, not to mention i don't think they have the production capacity. They haven't even shipped a single 16T miner yet..

68000 off first release would be a monumental task, i would think a tenth of that for the first batch.  Will be watching this one from afar but looks like bitmain has a serious competitor if they can produce at mass rates

This miner is way too overpriced, the network difficulty will go sky high as soon as these machines are hashing.

Exactly my thoughts on this thing. It’s another Antminer A3 situation about to happen, but this time with a 10k$ price tag.

Yoshi is from MyRig, is he not? I recall messaging him a while back on Bitmainwarranty support and he responded to my message there.

Exactly, I think anything between 5-10k units too. If they release 10k it would be the exact same situation as with Bitmain's A3 - a few days of $100-200/day if you're one of the first and then gradually settle at $40/day. But the other interesting factor is what will Bitmain's reaction be - there is no way they aren't working on a Decred ASIC too, so I'd expect them to react immediately and release something in the next couple of weeks, even if it's a smaller count than originally planned.

In the end the big loser is of course Obelisk, which got absolutely crushed between these two giants (Halong is still a giant only on paper though).

Thats why preorders these days are a no go.  By the time an asic is set to come out it will be DOA anyway.  Im only buying hardware that can be shipped to me as soon as i pay or close enough to it.

I learned my lesson, when I paid the hefty price for an Innosilicon A5 unit.

I will never again buy a 10k USD machine.

are you serious with 68k units?? this is just the max value for the variable to be. try order 68000 pcs and there’s still be stock left.

no one can do a 68000 batch now, maybe samsung or something like that

for your consideration there’s were  5000 A3s in the first batch

Obelisk DCR1 for less than 1/5 the price and around 50% of DragonMint B29's hashrate seems like an easy decision to me.  Assuming Obelisk comes out first, the profitability will plummet and ROI time for DragonMint B29s will be massive.

Yeah, I don't expect any of these to sell if at all any sales are even made for the DragonMint. I don't know what Halong were thinking when they released the miner at this price... At least there's proof of it being real unlike some of their other miners previously. The Obelisk is currently sold out, but this is just absolutely ridiculous with pricing.

Even with reseller prices one could pay almost double for the Obelisk and still get a better price per GH ratio.

Yes you are right, but dont forget about the Hash/Watt rate. At the end its a fair price. Not good, not bad.

The thing is, the Obelisk will break even quicker and make more if the DCR1 is released before the B29, not to mention the pricing, even after any possible reseller markups if they're not too extreme. Sure, the Dragonmint will do better long term with its efficiency, but with pricing right now I don't think the better efficiency is worth paying 5x the original pricing of the DCR1.

The B29 is going to start shipping this week so they will be in the wild months before Obelisk has anything shipping. The B29's will most likely make their capital back in the first 2-3 months and the network hashrate will increase a lot by the time Obelisk enters the scene. By that time I'd expect the Obelisk to make its capital back anywhere between 6-12 months depending on B29 batch size and batches they release.

Has anybody here bought and/or received this asic from Halong? I figure with these units SET to ship this week, it could finally end "Dragonmint is a scam" debate...

I personally am still waiting for someone to actually get a miner from Halong. Their specs are juicy but I am hesitant to attempt to order.

It's like a suspense movie happening in slow motion.

"Behind you, BEHIND YOU... it's the UPS guy, he needs your signature."

I bought 1 of these and they sent everyone an email that bought one that shipping was delayed due to holiday shipping. They were pushed back to April 3-4th shipping.

Now MyRig is posting that something is wrong with the circuit boards. Will probably use this to make an excuse for additional delays while they mine more coins. 😣

They posted that the b series miners will be shipping out in the next couple days.

I don't know the details, but "holliday shipping" sounds like a fake reason... because, like-- if the shipment were delayed due to Easter or something, then you would get that info from UPS et al... AFTER you had already gotten your tracking info / waybill.

I'm not saying they don't get delivered beginning of April (tho i do doubt the "new" delivery window), but i AM saying the holiday shipping excuse sounds fake to me.

But what do IIIII know?