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Title: what will replace asic?
Post by: og kush420 on September 11, 2013, 01:07:11 AM
so it went cpu->gpu->fpga->asic->?
whats next? what should i keep my eye on and be ready to buy with the snap of a finger if it comes out? i want to mine but im not stupid enough to get sucked into the big scam going around with junk asics that dont even make 10%ROI
also, how much more time has asic got before something better comes?
also, quantum computing, yay or nay for sha-256?


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on September 11, 2013, 01:09:17 AM
Nothing.  You will eventually see more efficient ASICs either better designed (higher MH/s per mm^2 of silicon) or smaller process node (20nm or better).    Neither are likely in the near term (6-12 months).  In the near term just expect the price per GH/s to keep dropping.  $2 per GH/s is pretty likely.  $1 per GH/s is probably pretty close to the build cost (whole miner not just chip).

Quantum Computing against hashing functions?  Nope.


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: miter_myles on September 11, 2013, 01:16:51 AM
My Sega Dreamcast... still working out the details...


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: ||bit on September 11, 2013, 01:31:52 AM
so it went cpu->gpu->fpga->asic->?
whats next? what should i keep my eye on and be ready to buy with the snap of a finger if it comes out? i want to mine but im not stupid enough to get sucked into the big scam going around with junk asics that dont even make 10%ROI
also, how much more time has asic got before something better comes?
also, quantum computing, yay or nay for sha-256?

cloud mining perhaps...

http://thegenesisblock.com/op-ed-bitcoin-minings-inevitable-centralized-future/


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: kibblesnbits on September 11, 2013, 01:45:41 AM
http://www.vgg.com/2600/graphics/foghat2600.jpg

It gets 2600 hash, but it plays Foghat!  You hear that?  Foghat!!


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: Littleshop on September 11, 2013, 03:23:24 AM
so it went cpu->gpu->fpga->asic->?
whats next? what should i keep my eye on and be ready to buy with the snap of a finger if it comes out? i want to mine but im not stupid enough to get sucked into the big scam going around with junk asics that dont even make 10%ROI
also, how much more time has asic got before something better comes?
also, quantum computing, yay or nay for sha-256?

ASIC has many levels. 

The lowest is an FPGA hard copy, a few variations in between (like standard cells and structured design) , and the highest level a full custom ASIC. 

As far as I know some of he earlier ASICS (without naming) were FPGA hard copy.  They use more power and can not run at higher speeds. A full custom can run very fast but is much harder to design properly.  Make a mistake and you throw away a lot of money. 

A 65NM full custom could outperform a 45NM that was not a full custom.  So the holy grail (right now) would be a 14NM full custom.  We are still a long way from there. 


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: superduh on September 11, 2013, 04:33:08 AM
Alien technology


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: frankenmint on September 11, 2013, 11:32:33 AM
Dwavesys.com - only if it works as advertised and they can get the watts down to below 88


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: johnyj on September 12, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
Maybe quantum asic, but today's quantum computer from Dwave require huge amount of power and cooling which is not practical for mining usage, and the speed is not that impressive either, about 3600x faster than intel q6600, 39.6Ghs/s


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on September 12, 2013, 11:12:49 PM
Maybe quantum asic, but today's quantum computer from Dwave require huge amount of power and cooling which is not practical for mining usage, and the speed is not that impressive either, about 3600x faster than intel q6600, 39.6Ghs/s

No its speed is 0.0 Gh/s


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: romerun on September 13, 2013, 12:05:03 AM
prove of stake


Title: Re: what will replace asic?
Post by: ronaldinho_07 on September 13, 2013, 01:44:02 AM
monarch lol