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Title: BFL Jallies
Post by: thehairymob on September 11, 2013, 04:53:47 PM
What is happening with these? Are they stopped shipping them or something? For a while there it looked like BFL was sending them out at a less worrying rate. Now though they seem to have stalled. Com'on BFL get back to shipping the Jallies.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: mgio on September 11, 2013, 04:57:49 PM
No, they need to concentrate on singles and mini rigs. They've shipped far more jalapeņos than anything else.

It's not fair that people who ordered a jalapeņo six months later and for 1/10th the price have gotten their hardware while those who made a much larger investment much earlier have not.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: Threader on September 11, 2013, 04:59:29 PM
"fairness" is not analogous with BFL business practices


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: thehairymob on September 11, 2013, 05:34:55 PM
Would it not make more business sense to fill all the jallies orders and then they can stop some of the complaints. At the same time they then would be able to concentrate on the other lines.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 11, 2013, 05:36:53 PM
What is happening with these? Are they stopped shipping them or something? For a while there it looked like BFL was sending them out at a less worrying rate. Now though they seem to have stalled. Com'on BFL get back to shipping the Jallies.
Josh said something to PG and I, but I am unsure if I should repeat it.  I'll PM Josh and see.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: joeventura on September 11, 2013, 06:10:02 PM
Jalapeno assembly is being outsourced from BFL to another company so they said it will take some time for that process to transition.

(should be two weeks tm )  ;D


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: BigJon901 on September 11, 2013, 06:13:25 PM
I don't believe they are doing these in house anymore. Josh said today that they were going with a 3rd party for the Jally production. I guess if whomever gets the contract to produce will probably also be producing Singles and mini rigs down the road ?  ???


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: atmclikk on September 11, 2013, 06:24:19 PM
hahahaha.  that makes sense.  why wouldnt they stop pumping them out right before my order date came up (feb 18). 

Why didn't they outsource a long time ago?  Its crazy that they are still a viable company...  well, i feel dumb for sending them 100 bucks for the upgrade to 7.5...


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: Threader on September 11, 2013, 06:25:27 PM
No one will pay $274 for 5 GH.

$99 special?


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: mgio on September 11, 2013, 08:36:31 PM
Would it not make more business sense to fill all the jallies orders and then they can stop some of the complaints. At the same time they then would be able to concentrate on the other lines.

No, you will ALWAYS be pissing someone off.

All of the people who ordered singles are VERY pissed that they only were shipping jallies for the first couple of months.

Remember BFLs 1/3 shipping guarantee where they promised to ship each product in equal amounts, etc?


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: jelin1984 on September 11, 2013, 09:04:18 PM
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Re: BFL Jallies
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Jalapeno assembly is being outsourced from BFL to another company so they said it will take some time for that process to transition.

(should be two weeks tm ) 
Do you know that will be 2 weeks or more!!???


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: TheJuice on September 11, 2013, 09:29:30 PM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: jelin1984 on September 11, 2013, 09:30:15 PM
Why will make everyone a roi?


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: klondike_bar on September 11, 2013, 10:16:52 PM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 11, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon. 


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: PuertoLibre on September 12, 2013, 12:11:37 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon. 
You heard it here first folks, bcp19 admitted that people should not be buying BFL specific hardware. At least....not if you expect to make more BTC than you paid for the hardware...


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 12, 2013, 12:34:21 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon. 
You heard it here first folks, bcp19 admitted that people should not be buying BFL specific hardware. At least....not if you expect to make more BTC than you paid for the hardware...
You are twisting my words again Master Shill... I did not reference any one particaular company, I meant ALL of them.  Tsk tsk tsk... we may have to revoke your shillness for this one.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: PuertoLibre on September 12, 2013, 12:36:51 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon. 
You heard it here first folks, bcp19 admitted that people should not be buying BFL specific hardware. At least....not if you expect to make more BTC than you paid for the hardware...
You are twisting my words again Master Shill... I did not reference any one particaular company, I meant ALL of them.  Tsk tsk tsk... we may have to revoke your shillness for this one.
Bitfury hardware does make a positive ROI, doesn't it?

Can't say the same about BFL or ASICMiner.

I am not twisting your words. The quote you used was in reference to a specific manufacturer.

Please read before making assumptions.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: millsdmb on September 12, 2013, 12:37:50 AM
They need more monarch pre-orders to continue production. Please order ASAP.

in case you have signatures disabled...Hitler Finds out about the Butterfly Labs Monarch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 12, 2013, 12:43:01 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon. 
You heard it here first folks, bcp19 admitted that people should not be buying BFL specific hardware. At least....not if you expect to make more BTC than you paid for the hardware...
You are twisting my words again Master Shill... I did not reference any one particaular company, I meant ALL of them.  Tsk tsk tsk... we may have to revoke your shillness for this one.
Bitfury hardware does make a positive ROI, doesn't it?

Can't say the same about BFL or ASICMiner.

I am not twisting your words. The quote you used was in reference to a specific manufacturer.

Please read before making assumptions.
see above highlight.  You assumed I meant BFL cause he mentioned BFL, but I responded to the other part of his quote.  I personally believe if you don't have it in hand between now and 7-14 days from now, you won't see a positive RoI on anything from anywhere just due to the simple fact there is so much product from so many companies that is supposed to ship in the next 30-45 days.  People will soon be wishing the monthly difficulty increase was ONLY 76%.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: Bicknellski on September 12, 2013, 12:53:06 AM
even though they have been told for months that all sales are final

Can you point to the FTC regulation that allows for this practice?

Months? Really?
Oh my this will certainly be a nice quote for anyone looking to report BFL to the FTC.
Months... with no set shipping date? Really?

I suspect the FTC might have issue with that statement full stop.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: PuertoLibre on September 12, 2013, 12:54:23 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon. 
You heard it here first folks, bcp19 admitted that people should not be buying BFL specific hardware. At least....not if you expect to make more BTC than you paid for the hardware...
You are twisting my words again Master Shill... I did not reference any one particaular company, I meant ALL of them.  Tsk tsk tsk... we may have to revoke your shillness for this one.
Bitfury hardware does make a positive ROI, doesn't it?

Can't say the same about BFL or ASICMiner.

I am not twisting your words. The quote you used was in reference to a specific manufacturer.

Please read before making assumptions.
see above highlight.  You assumed I meant BFL cause he mentioned BFL, but I responded to the other part of his quote.  I personally believe if you don't have it in hand between now and 7-14 days from now, you won't see a positive RoI on anything from anywhere just due to the simple fact there is so much product from so many companies that is supposed to ship in the next 30-45 days.  People will soon be wishing the monthly difficulty increase was ONLY 76%.
And we come around full circle. Therefore my previous statement was spot on.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 12, 2013, 12:56:20 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon. 
You heard it here first folks, bcp19 admitted that people should not be buying BFL specific hardware. At least....not if you expect to make more BTC than you paid for the hardware...
You are twisting my words again Master Shill... I did not reference any one particaular company, I meant ALL of them.  Tsk tsk tsk... we may have to revoke your shillness for this one.
Bitfury hardware does make a positive ROI, doesn't it?

Can't say the same about BFL or ASICMiner.

I am not twisting your words. The quote you used was in reference to a specific manufacturer.

Please read before making assumptions.
see above highlight.  You assumed I meant BFL cause he mentioned BFL, but I responded to the other part of his quote.  I personally believe if you don't have it in hand between now and 7-14 days from now, you won't see a positive RoI on anything from anywhere just due to the simple fact there is so much product from so many companies that is supposed to ship in the next 30-45 days.  People will soon be wishing the monthly difficulty increase was ONLY 76%.
And we come around full circle. Therefore my previous statement was spot on.
Yep, you were spot on and assumed I was only talking about 1 company.  Epic fail dude.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: PuertoLibre on September 12, 2013, 12:57:51 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon.  
You heard it here first folks, bcp19 admitted that people should not be buying BFL specific hardware. At least....not if you expect to make more BTC than you paid for the hardware...
You are twisting my words again Master Shill... I did not reference any one particaular company, I meant ALL of them.  Tsk tsk tsk... we may have to revoke your shillness for this one.
Bitfury hardware does make a positive ROI, doesn't it?

Can't say the same about BFL or ASICMiner.

I am not twisting your words. The quote you used was in reference to a specific manufacturer.

Please read before making assumptions.
see above highlight.  You assumed I meant BFL cause he mentioned BFL, but I responded to the other part of his quote.  I personally believe if you don't have it in hand between now and 7-14 days from now, you won't see a positive RoI on anything from anywhere just due to the simple fact there is so much product from so many companies that is supposed to ship in the next 30-45 days.  People will soon be wishing the monthly difficulty increase was ONLY 76%.
And we come around full circle. Therefore my previous statement was spot on.
Yep, you were spot on and assumed I was only talking about 1 company.  Epic fail dude.
Or you were talking about any company, and I picked one, therefore epic win! (with exception of BitFury of course)

P.S. Yes, I am fucking with you  ;D ;)


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 12, 2013, 01:03:42 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon.  
You heard it here first folks, bcp19 admitted that people should not be buying BFL specific hardware. At least....not if you expect to make more BTC than you paid for the hardware...
You are twisting my words again Master Shill... I did not reference any one particaular company, I meant ALL of them.  Tsk tsk tsk... we may have to revoke your shillness for this one.
Bitfury hardware does make a positive ROI, doesn't it?

Can't say the same about BFL or ASICMiner.

I am not twisting your words. The quote you used was in reference to a specific manufacturer.

Please read before making assumptions.
see above highlight.  You assumed I meant BFL cause he mentioned BFL, but I responded to the other part of his quote.  I personally believe if you don't have it in hand between now and 7-14 days from now, you won't see a positive RoI on anything from anywhere just due to the simple fact there is so much product from so many companies that is supposed to ship in the next 30-45 days.  People will soon be wishing the monthly difficulty increase was ONLY 76%.
And we come around full circle. Therefore my previous statement was spot on.
Yep, you were spot on and assumed I was only talking about 1 company.  Epic fail dude.
Or you were talking about any company, and I picked one, therefore epic win! (with exception of BitFury of course)

P.S. Yes, I am fucking with you  ;D ;)
Which of course was obvious as soon as you responded ;)


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: Unacceptable on September 12, 2013, 01:04:22 AM
No,no,no,BFL is shipping......just waiting on parts/boards/chips.......Nasser said so  :D


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 12, 2013, 01:07:46 AM
No,no,no,BFL is shipping......just waiting on parts/boards/chips.......Nasser said so  :D
It's so sad you don't understand engineer-speak.  To an engineer a shutdown or a halt means the line has ended and no more will ever be produced.  A delay is currently what is happening in engineer-speak, but that difference is lost on trolls.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: PuertoLibre on September 12, 2013, 01:09:02 AM
No,no,no,BFL is shipping......just waiting on parts/boards/chips.......Nasser said so  :D
It's so sad you don't understand engineer-speak.  To an engineer a shutdown or a halt means the line has ended and no more will ever be produced.  A delay is currently what is happening in engineer-speak, but that difference is lost on trolls.
What ISO code is that engineer-speak?

I need to be sure I am parsing it correctly.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 12, 2013, 01:11:03 AM
No,no,no,BFL is shipping......just waiting on parts/boards/chips.......Nasser said so  :D
It's so sad you don't understand engineer-speak.  To an engineer a shutdown or a halt means the line has ended and no more will ever be produced.  A delay is currently what is happening in engineer-speak, but that difference is lost on trolls.
What ISO code is that engineer-speak?

I need to be sure I am parsing it correctly.
I tried asking but then someone jumped in looking like a DragonBall Z character and shouted "OVER 9000!!!!!"


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: Unacceptable on September 12, 2013, 01:17:32 AM
No,no,no,BFL is shipping......just waiting on parts/boards/chips.......Nasser said so  :D
It's so sad you don't understand engineer-speak.  To an engineer a shutdown or a halt means the line has ended and no more will ever be produced.  A delay is currently what is happening in engineer-speak, but that difference is lost on trolls.

Well,I definitly don't know bitcoin,Josh said so............& I only know trollspeak  :D

Now if only I could learn vagspeak  ;D  8)


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: ScaryHash on September 12, 2013, 02:03:01 AM
What jallies?

I don't got no stinkin' jallies that I ordered...

Fucking BFL.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: erk on September 12, 2013, 03:04:35 AM
I thought the hold up on Jally shipments was because they were outsourcing the production? That's what Josh suggested in their forum chat.



Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: bcp19 on September 12, 2013, 04:11:48 AM
I thought the hold up on Jally shipments was because they were outsourcing the production? That's what Josh suggested in their forum chat.


Josh did tell PG and I that the Jala's are being outsourced.  This other company will build them and send them to BFL to be burnt in before shipping. 


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: MikeyVeez on September 12, 2013, 04:23:21 AM
I thought the hold up on Jally shipments was because they were outsourcing the production? That's what Josh suggested in their forum chat.



Josh is a liar if you haven't figured that out by now lol


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: thehairymob on September 12, 2013, 05:55:34 PM
Is there a link to what josh has supposedly said?


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: millsdmb on September 12, 2013, 09:54:20 PM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.
It's actually funny, if you paid in USD for a BFL unit you should have purchased BTC instead.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: erk on September 12, 2013, 10:06:23 PM
Is there a link to what josh has supposedly said?
nope it was in the chat box on their forums

You should know BFL by now, they don't like to tell their customers what's going on with orders in general.



Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: millsdmb on September 12, 2013, 10:09:21 PM
Is there a link to what josh has supposedly said?
nope it was in the chat box on their forums

You should know BFL by now, they don't like to tell their customers what's going on with orders in general.


Their trollbox is logged. I think if you have an account you can access it from their website.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: Ytterbium on September 13, 2013, 05:57:21 AM
It's actually funny - If you paid in USD, everyone who has received a bfl product will make roi.

You don't seem to understand the idea of currency exchange. Please inform me how a BFL product will make back its costs without saying "oh well bitcoins were $80 then and theyll be $200 when it is mining! hurp a derp"

I only put down bitcoins/money on something that i feel will produce more BTC in its lifetime then if i initially had just put my money into BTC
then you obviously won't be buying mining equipment anytime soon. 

Yeah, that's right.  Why would anyone buy mining equipment at this point? Cointerra is already down to $3/Gh/s and prices will likely continue to crash until the difficulty starts to stabilize.  Ordering hardware for November, December, Feb etc is a completely idiotic thing to do.


Title: Re: BFL Jallies
Post by: thehairymob on September 18, 2013, 06:13:11 PM
Is it just me or did Jodies blog for Saturday get changed. I was sure it read that they were up to the 19th of February 2013, but now it reads the 14th. Or is time moving backwards at BFL?  ???