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Title: Hopeful for the new merit system
Post by: eddie13 on February 12, 2018, 03:11:06 AM
I'm feeling quite positive about the societal effects of this system in the longterm if we can HODL it but it is going to be a rough transition.
Right now it looks like it's going to be impossible to rank up but give it a couple months or so for people to become more generally aware of it and start using it more broadly..

I am hopeful that this infact will have quite an impact on the spam here, this is something that will be extremely difficult for account farmers and will also lead to a deflation of the amount of campaignable accounts because now their will surely be more accounts being ruined by red trust, being dubbed a spammer and/or scammer, than will be ranking up to take their places..
I also think this may lead to a payraise to sig posters that survive this, especially to the lower middle class ones, because the supply of posters will diminish..

I can just imagine the guys sitting on a bunch of high potential accounts, they are ruined..
Wondering if account farming from here out will be viable at all but the value of currently built accounts must be wayy up.. I would love to see it on a chart..
I am very curious to see what effect this has on the bitcointalk economy..

Look at my position!!
I came back just now and had to make 1 post!!  1 post!! to be potential legendary and have been thoroughly raped out of the 500 merits that I will now need to collect..
I mean heh, this system is going to do my ranking situation NO good at all, pretty much the worst possible screwing you can get by this system apart from the farmers that deserve it? lmfao its funny..
Activity:   784
Merit:   500

Makes me laugh..
Who else here got screwed right at the border of legendary?

Yet I am hopeful this will make this forum a better place, I like it..
If I were able to go back to being much more active on the forum being a merit source sounds like it would be a fun and accessible way to help the community but I don't see me having a lot of crypto time anytime soon though it should make my reading bitcointalk much more efficient from a quality content/trash standpoint.. 

To the real true new guys starting an account from scratch I feel for you but really I think it's not going to be out of the question to be able to get the merits to make it happen naturally, but for that their is going to have to be a healthy supply of merit going around and I hope to see a lot of merit sources, which I think their eventually will be..
Their just was large influx of true crypto newbs lately and I hope they fair well (hope they have faired the dump well too)

Reading about this merit recently I'm taking a look around and not much merit is being given anywhere other than ..... discussions on merit..
Whoever these magic merit makers are will need to be people that participate in many subforums, not just meta..

I think that instead of giving existing merit sources more sMerits they should rather create more sources to make it more decentralized and possibly give everyone a little source merit based off a percentage of what merit they currently have monthly or something..
A distribution that doesn't just further the centralization of account rank and trust will be difficult though..

I have some sMerit but I haven't decided how I am going to blow them yet.. Sadly I think I will refrain from giving it to any legendaries because frankly they don't need it and it is too scarce in the forum as it is now..


Title: Re: Hopeful for the new merit system
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 12, 2018, 04:33:26 AM
Who else here got screwed right at the border of legendary?
I didn't; I think I got extremely lucky--I turned legendary pretty much right before the merit system was put into place.  On the other hand, I had to wait for 1014 activity or whatever it is, the second to last possible activity before legendary is guaranteed at 1025. 

If you're not in a campaign that pays more for legendary status, who really cares about this?  There's no other reason I can see for getting a stiffy for it.  I mean come on, ultimately however much we bicker and fight and everything else, this is just an internet forum and the rank is kind of silly.  There are some campaigns that actually pay more for legendaries but I think hero & legendary are usually treated the same.

The only members I feel bad (and I use that phrase very loosely) for are the really good posters who were at hero member status when the merit system got implemented.  But those individuals should have no problem waiting and if the posts are good enough, they should get the merit points with no trouble.  If the motivation to achieve a higher rank is for more income, then I have no sympathy for their overblown, overwrought plight that exists only in their greedy little, money-grubbing, no speaky-de-Engly heads.


Title: Re: Hopeful for the new merit system
Post by: barsharkol12 on February 12, 2018, 04:48:50 AM
Im also stuck in jr member, i am having a hard time getting merits but i also thank this new merit system its because it can benefit me a lot like not to post off and non sense topic. I believe that hard work and passion for posting a useful topic. I am hopeful that other jr member will learn also how the new merit system works.


Title: Re: Hopeful for the new merit system
Post by: eddie13 on February 12, 2018, 05:52:36 AM
Who else here got screwed right at the border of legendary?
I didn't; I think I got extremely lucky--I turned legendary pretty much right before the merit system was put into place.  On the other hand, I had to wait for 1014 activity or whatever it is, the second to last possible activity before legendary is guaranteed at 1025.  

If you're not in a campaign that pays more for legendary status, who really cares about this?  There's no other reason I can see for getting a stiffy for it.  I mean come on, ultimately however much we bicker and fight and everything else, this is just an internet forum and the rank is kind of silly.  There are some campaigns that actually pay more for legendaries but I think hero & legendary are usually treated the same.

The only members I feel bad (and I use that phrase very loosely) for are the really good posters who were at hero member status when the merit system got implemented.  But those individuals should have no problem waiting and if the posts are good enough, they should get the merit points with no trouble.  If the motivation to achieve a higher rank is for more income, then I have no sympathy for their overblown, overwrought plight that exists only in their greedy little, money-grubbing, no speaky-de-Engly heads.

I don't sig campaign, I haven't in a very long time..

I just used my example to show that even though their are some negative short term impacts to legit users I/we should remain positive about the long term positive effect this should have for legit users.. A lot of people are seeming quite dissatisfied..

I agree completely about not caring less about the feelings of those who just want to spam for money, I want rid of all the spam too..
It would be great to be able to read here and learn crypto much more efficiently, and keep up with what's going on in the crypto world without having to wade through a thousand $0.01 posts to find any real content..

Im also stuck in jr member, i am having a hard time getting merits but i also thank this new merit system its because it can benefit me a lot like not to post off and non sense topic. I believe that hard work and passion for posting a useful topic. I am hopeful that other jr member will learn also how the new merit system works.

It might help you post better but imagine how much it will make you read better and communicate better..
Hopefully you will be able to read 10% as many posts and gain 10X more information while doing so. Rather than reading endless ways to rephrase the same opinion.

The Pharmacist is right, I don't recall the exact posting limits of young accounts, but once you are passed the worst of that then rank only really matters for getting paid more for campaigns and generally being taken more seriously which isn't really that big of a deal..


Title: Re: Hopeful for the new merit system
Post by: Jet Cash on February 12, 2018, 08:57:16 AM
I was 4 activities away from a potential legendary when ther merit system arrived, but I don't feel that I was "screwed", I was pleased that some attempt was boing made to restore Bitcoin Talk to its former glory. When I joined BT was an enormous help to me, and I learnt a lot about more than just Bitcoin. Unfortunately, some of those really helpful members don't seem to post any more, and I suspect this may be the result of the time one has to waste wading through a swamp of far worse than mediocrity.

To the OP - there is very little difference between a Hero and a Legendary, so rank increase is not of dramatic importance to us. What is important is that you were given some sMerit, and you can use that to help reshape the forum. As Bitcoin shifts towards a store of value, rather than a payment service, there is a wonderful opportunity to interact with some major investors in the crypto market. Bitcoin Talk should be  great place for this, but it will have no chance of this happening if the first place a potential member visits is the current frog pond. Your threads and replies can help to lift Bitcoin Talk out of its current swamp, and your sMerit awards can encourage others to do the same.


Title: Re: Hopeful for the new merit system
Post by: Zackgeno96 on February 12, 2018, 06:13:35 PM
Even I missed the bus by few activities; i think hero and legendary ranks are almost at same level and it doesn't make more difference. After the introduction of merit system, i will be required additional 500 merit to rank up. I know few lucky users who got the high rank just before the introduction of new system. There is no need to think much about the rank, we are here to stay for longer time and we should continue to contribute for this forum. There are many users who really appreciate the good posts so there will be many opportunities to get the merit. So everyone should keep calm and make sure to follow the forum guidelines.