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Title: Just a quick question
Post by: thinklab71 on February 16, 2018, 06:38:03 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: jbautistangina on February 16, 2018, 06:49:51 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?
As far as i know they could use the funds they have raised anytime they want so that is the risk of joining these ICOs,but morelikely if they get a softcap there would be a public sale,ICOs has a lot of factors to be considered like product,the team,roadmap,whitepaper,partmership etc. so you need do deep research each things you need to know so you can achieve success.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: lelou on February 16, 2018, 06:57:33 PM
It depends to them I think, maybe they need to finish the crowdsale before spnding it to the projects so they can allocate the funds from different parts of the projects they reached.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: ghonkz on February 16, 2018, 06:58:04 PM
Yes they can, softcap designed so they capable of working the project with that money. And hard cap is money for some other thing or improve the project so the result will be better, cause the budget much more bigger.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: lucemferrum01 on February 16, 2018, 07:01:24 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?

What do you mean by take and use the fund? for the actual project or to their personal interest? I think those funds that invested to ICO companies are in the hands of the people running the project and they have total control of it specially when part of their rules are not included a certain assurance on how these funds will proceeds.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: thinklab71 on February 16, 2018, 07:06:10 PM
No I was asking if they get to use the softcap, do they use some of that to promote their token to reach the hard cap.  Like using some softcap funds for advertising to really push the hard cap


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: cryptonero on February 16, 2018, 07:20:21 PM
No I was asking if they get to use the softcap, do they use some of that to promote their token to reach the hard cap.  Like using some softcap funds for advertising to really push the hard cap
Not really,if the softcap was raised faster than their targeted date they would try to reach the hardcap,it is really depends on the campaign treasurer if they will use the funds for their personal use,but morelikely they dont pay people using the raised money to advertise them,bounties are doing that they will pay people with their tokens.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Hipag on February 16, 2018, 07:21:33 PM
If they are using some of the softcap, maybe because they want to become  successful  for the good of everybody


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: PetrovichCoinMaster on February 16, 2018, 07:27:30 PM
It is unlikely that the company will use the funds received until SoftCap is reached because if they do not collect It, they will be obliged to return the invested funds to investors. This statement is more applicable to projects receiving funds on a smart contract.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: setifien19 on February 16, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached
Yes they can since" a soft cap is the amount received  which corresponds to the success of the crowdsale "  they can freely do it .
 As far as I know, most ICOs don't reach the hard cap , so they only have to rely on soft cap collected amount


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: just_Alice on February 16, 2018, 07:49:08 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?
If you mean "take and use" to meet own needs, isn't that how fraudulent ICOs work sometimes? If the fund-raising operatives aren't regulated by any financial authorities, like SEC, for instance, whoever is running the company and has access to the funds is free to steal. If you mean if the team is able to start developing a project before raising a hard cap - depends on a project, but mostly, yes, once the soft cap is reached the company can start working on the emission.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: zopply on February 16, 2018, 07:50:39 PM
well they can basically do whatever they like. As an investor in this scene we have no control whatsoever what they do with the funds once we send them. That's why 90% of ICO's are just pure rubbish that never eventuate into anything at all.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Kizaki on February 16, 2018, 07:50:58 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?

I think that the owner can instantly use any funds invested in their ICO because the purpose of doing an ICO is to gather funds to develop, improve, advertise, and pay expenses for the project before launching it. When ICO hits it's soft cap the owner has an option to use the funds for the projects improvement and other purposes.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: WNbahr on February 16, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?
it is highly dependent on the policies they make because their influence is crucial to how the next action will be in determining the ICO they will develop or discontinue. I do not think it's a normal problem because it involves a fairly risky financial expense. This is certainly not an easy thing without a careful consideration.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: sunX3 on February 16, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
You never know if they'll take the money and run. I guess that's why most ICOs are scammy. It's really hard to find a good one.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Lerikaweb on February 16, 2018, 08:09:06 PM
They actually can,  but they won't. They set some price for their token during the ico and any changes are bad for their reputation.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: captaincomet on February 16, 2018, 08:09:15 PM
They can. They will use the funds for development, which will allow them to further attract more investors


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: cryptopusa on February 16, 2018, 08:20:42 PM
If the crowdsale was success and reached the softcap,they can do anything they want to the money they have raised,they can use it to develop the project or they can runaway and never comeback,but morelikely these ICOs if reached the hardcap they have more chance to achieve success in their project.But we wont know how will they spent the money that they have raised,its their money not ours.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Wipro on February 16, 2018, 08:28:26 PM
No I was asking if they get to use the softcap, do they use some of that to promote their token to reach the hard cap.  Like using some softcap funds for advertising to really push the hard cap

Softcap projects achieved their target easily without bug promotion. If the team financial strength is more, some may use the signature and other bounty promotion options.
If you are part of any project and want your project to be managed by the perfect hand and get quality as you expected. Atriz would be the right person here in the forum.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Igromania on February 16, 2018, 08:43:59 PM
They can. They will use the funds for development, which will allow them to further attract more investors
That is, they can receive money and immediately spend it to attract new investors? Is it possible?


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: yudhistira on February 16, 2018, 09:20:04 PM
In my opinion, but I'm not sure, they can use the money collected.   ???
Still, they collect them to develop the project and they have need from them.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: MISS_nSTASSY on February 16, 2018, 09:21:09 PM
They can do whatever they want only in one case - if they dont have escrow. If the ICO you want to invest in dont have escrow - your money can be spent right after you send it. And it can be spent not on development at all.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Zentor on February 16, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
If ICO uses escrow or smart contract which contains money to the end of ICO than they can`t. In other cases yes, of course.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Xtra_Coin on February 16, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
As far as I understand, the funds that the company collects during ICO they are needed to achieve some goals. If those facilities that they need to launch their platform are already extracted by the company, then it can terminate the ICO in a timely manner.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: cryptoux on February 17, 2018, 07:32:23 PM
They can. They will use the funds for development, which will allow them to further attract more investors
That is, they can receive money and immediately spend it to attract new investors? Is it possible?
Of course it is part of the development,advertising team would be use some of the funds raised by the ICO,but mostly these ICOs are using their tokens to reward the bounty hunters for promoting their ICO to the socialmedia,blogs and websites,also here in bitcointalk.But why would you want to know if these people would use the money for their advertising?


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Bounty_Hunter on February 17, 2018, 07:43:06 PM
I'm not sure, but it seems to me that all ICOS should wait for hard cap to reach. They can't finish ico when reaching the soft cap.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: VanKleiss on February 18, 2018, 09:14:01 AM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?
They don't need to wait for the ICO to be over. It is actually their decision whether they will use it or not because they need funds to pay for campaigns and development. But a good ICO usually have an initial fund so they don't have to use the funds that is coming from ICO until the sale is over.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: kaineh on February 19, 2018, 12:16:39 AM
I recently witnessed how the project team used the tools of a soft cap. At the same time, they continued to collect the funds of ICO and further


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Balab01 on February 19, 2018, 12:21:36 AM
I have never met such a campaign that will take and give up money like this, because if the company is quite well-known and the project is popular, then only time is needed to reach  hard cap


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Shirin16 on February 19, 2018, 12:33:47 AM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?
I think it depends on the initial commitment of the project. some have rules if not reach softcap then there is a refund there is also the opposite. and if most if it is softcap then the team can pick up and which have been shipped.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: FaucetKING on February 19, 2018, 12:36:16 AM
The real thing is that nobody knows about these icos companys, they might have the full permission to access and use the funds collected in the first steps of the ico process, well you should ask a lawyer maybe or a CEO of an ico and you might get a good answer about this whole process.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: IgniHash on February 19, 2018, 12:42:33 AM
Its probably the used that softcap amount to pay their operational expenses.
It's normal I think, the need you pay the team or the promotional tools.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: bornforfreedom on February 19, 2018, 12:59:04 AM
Depends on how the ICO is structured. Been even seeing projects opt out of an ICO. I know Polymath did that and instead airdropped 10 million POLY tokens, which was great because now they're all worth $250-$300 for 250 tokens people received. https://polymath.network/


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: lovemsngr on February 19, 2018, 03:50:14 PM
In general, this is possible and occurs mainly when the timing of the project is small enough and the company decides not to wait and work with soft cp, but this happens really rarely


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Aivengo111 on February 20, 2018, 02:33:10 PM
Basically the campaigns do not stop on soft caps, because they want to go to hard cap when it's more than enough money to do their project


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: radokan on February 20, 2018, 02:43:17 PM
I'm not sure, but it seems to me that all ICOS should wait for hard cap to reach. They can't finish ico when reaching the soft cap.
Yes they can. If they collect soft cap it means they already have enough money to continue with project.
You are wrong if you think that they should wait until ICO reach hard cap. Imagine ICO running a year without reaching hard cap, tokens can't go to exchange, investors pissed and so on.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: NutellaboY on February 20, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
Basically the campaigns do not stop on soft caps, because they want to go to hard cap when it's more than enough money to do their project

Great answer (you got my sarcasm?) but the question was "can they use funds after the softcap or have to wait till the hardcap?"
And the correct answer is: they can do whatever they want with the funds that already raised.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: CryptikEnigma on February 20, 2018, 05:49:32 PM
I have not seen this, but I think that this is possible because softcap is the minimum necessary sum of money, so the project can be implemented only with softcap


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: terible.hunter on February 20, 2018, 05:56:25 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?
I think that everything depends on what is written in the smart contract that is created for the ICO, as far as I know that they can not just take and take money, although what prevents them from doing this, if there is no smart contract for this. I think it's possible.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Mevz on February 20, 2018, 05:56:56 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?

I think its obviously when the company is not paying in BTC on their bounties like Signature campaigns. They don't have reserved funds which means some of them had the intention of abandoning the project if they even reached the softcap they'll scam some few investors with that. That's only the risk in investing on some ICO's some of them are just so ambitious.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: ZaynDale on February 23, 2018, 04:03:43 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?

It depends. Most ICOs are dependent of the funds they get on sales, most ICOs aren't developing their products and projects unless the investment funding would reach their expectations. There are soft and hard capitals in every ICOs so that money are going to fund to the people who involved, materials and all resources that are important for the product or project developments.
That's why ICOs needs funding and that fund can only get through ICO sales.


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: martina14 on February 23, 2018, 04:19:18 PM
When there is an ICO, can the company running the ICO take and use the funds once the soft cap is reached or do they need to wait to the ICO is over?
It is depend on the developer and the team, once you invest your money they have the full control of it.
Even they get some money from it they have the rights, if you asked them they will answer in a positive way.
you will never caught anyone on ICO unless ICO ended :D just be careful!


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: Bitcoininspace on February 23, 2018, 04:21:51 PM
The thing is a company running ICO can take all the money they collected and buy villas in Bahamas and never do nothing they've announced  ;D You can never guess what ICO is a scam with 100% and what they will do with money after the soft cap is collected


Title: Re: Just a quick question
Post by: TheAlchemist on February 23, 2018, 06:05:10 PM
Of course they can use money at any time, for any need. This is one of the main problems in today's ICOs. Many now are developing various proposals to control the money of investors. But so far this has not been realized yet. However, society is in great need of it.