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Greetings to everybody!

We are establishing BitWhisk.io (https://bitwhisk.io) — a new Bitcoin mixing service.

If you are an enthusiast and have some free time this weekend then your help would be greatly appreciated!

Instructoins here go quite simple:
1. Post your BTC address in this thread (or PM me with it).
2. Get some coins for testing from me (~ 0.001 BTC).
3. Try the service and post your feedback here.

To be honest, our funds now are quite restricted, so we will handle only around 20 requests from forum members with high reputation.

Kindly, do not bother sending your test coins back to us, leave it to yourself as a small reward for your work.

Thanks to all of you in advance!

Best regards,
BitWhisk team.

I have just used this service and I really like the current UI of the site.
The method the mixer has to use to keep track of his coins is very interesting and I kind of like it.
They also have a tor mirror of the site if you really want to use one, which definitely helps for user personalization.
The service very simple to use and it's not at all cumbersome. I would definitely recommend this service to anyone who is wanting a mixing service.

Wow, I used this site and is went very well... Congratulations OP.

PS: I tested with 0.001 btc that OP gave me.

Thank you for your reviews!

It would be also very good for us to know how UI behaves on mobile devices. We did our best in development, however still we are not 100% sure about slider's behaviour on touch screens.

Check pm please

The slider feels phenomenal on iOS devices (tried on a few different devices); I will attempt to check the behavior on Android devices as soon as I get the chance. I'm going to have more questions about the security, mixing process and other things.

First glance though, it looks very clean, except I have one small nitpick about your Fee-Chart, it says 1-4 Bitcoin has 0.45% when it should read 0-4 Bitcoin. Otherwise it would seemingly imply that your minimum amount is BTC1, which obviously is not the case. The site is very responsive on mobile devices and the slider seems to be very good at doing it's job.

The fact that you are handing out BTC in order for users to test is either a very good sign or a very bad sign. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, and I hope to be a part of your development further. I am happy to provide feedback, test certain things and try to help you figure out parameters, or problems that arise or are unforeseen.

Either way, keep it up and I'll be watching the development as we go along.

After testing out the site, I would say this new bitcoin mixing service site is very easy to use, with the BitWhisk code system in place, I guess the admin is generally trying to encourage customers to use this site service more often, as the more bitcoins you mix, the service fee would eventually gets lower with the same BitWhisk code you input every time.

But I believe the admin might still needs a lot of time to build up the site reputation and trust in order to compete with other bitcoin mixing service sites that have already been launched onto the market for a long time, gaining customers trust is a very important factor for bitcoin mixing service site to survive in the market.

I would like to try it out

I'm Interested and i want to try this. Thanks

The site works correctly in your Mobile version, instant replies, the site is intuitive, in addition to providing a full FAQ area to help new users with the due instructions to use.

Dear bill gator, thank you for the review! It's also nice to hear that you are willing to be a part of our development further.

Let me comment on this whole situatuion with discounts bounded to BitWhisk codes. First of all, this post is not an official announcement. We are not at all trying to convince anybody to put 1BTC on our accounts. We inform our customers on the maximum amount we can handle from them and put this information in the Letter of Guarantee.

If no serious bugs will be discovered during the testing process we will come up with an official announcement of our service. At this stage we plan to increase our reserve to 1BTC at least. Moreover, to attract people to our service we will run a special discount campaign. So, don't miss our updates!

Best,
BitWhisk

I cannot find your BTC address, nor in PM nor in your profile.

Best,
BitWhisk

My review for this site.
Website is simple and clean, and its easy to use tbh. I read faq about closing the window and i try it, i wait and the coin sent automatically to my address. So far so good and thanks about 0.001 for testing.

I would like to try your site if you will let me :)

Willing to try with 36WGG9UUnSe2fyipJE5bRZ9dFf5PWBuN73

The interface is simple and clear. Easy to understand and navigate..

BTC Adress: 1CsiVv9bEoJQYZJ8fpP8zVMyMoEeSLvQst

The website looks perfect on mobile.Except the logo.
The header seems more apt for a baking website than a bitcoin mixing website.Just my 2 cents.
I would love to review your mixer too
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I tested out the site and it turned good. Took some time but eventually it was processed. It would be great if you can add on like a timer by which users are guaranteed to have their coins mixed or a declaration in FAQ would be a good idea. Also it would be great if you can add on a fee adjusting slider to give customers to adjust fee based on network on transaction you send to them.

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I didn't have used mixing services in past so might have added something in feedback which didn't made sense. Sorry if that's so is the case.

I want to try.

3H385TQu5mcqJYVqY9txF4nS7mL8sZ4Mvd

I want to try it..Can you please send me..Heres my

BTC wallet: 3E9FLuLbe21ppMUqU9EMUPA545DhJ5VGuy

Thanksss

Thank you for testing, Avirunes.


Yes, we automatically randomize time delays by small time intervals up to 10 minutes. We explicitly declare it in FAQ (https://bitwhisk.io/faq.html) section, see "Do you randomize the time delays?"-question there. Though, adding time information in order summary sounds like a perfect idea! Thanks.


We thought about this idea a lot, and it was in development versions. However there are several problems here which have no smooth solution. First, we cannot let users to set too small miner's fee, because transaction may stuck and other users may need the output confirmed to complete their mix. Second, there is a problem with time delays: today the miner's fee you chose may be appropriate but nobody knows what is appropriate after 48 hours. We could offer the number of blocks in which you desire your transaction to be confirmed, but often the output of the algorithm for counting sat/B rate for confirmations in next 1, 2 or 3 blocks is the same. So we decided to not let users control miner's fee. Maybe we will understand how to get it to work in the future.

Anyway, thank you for the attention to our service!

Best,
BitWhisk

Hey is this still going on?

If so I would like to help!

Here is my Bitcoin adress:

3NZHR5a8rm1S4XYEZiiqM8MELgnJsbn3Cx

Thanks Nick

I've recieved a small amount of BTC from OP and successfully tested the service. Everything went smooth. A great thing that I want to point out is that there are some nice sliders for every address you add that will allow you to set a custom delay and % distribution for every address. You can set your own fees from .5 to 3% with up to 4 dights after zero which is quite good for such service.
Satoshies were mixed and recieved  (https://blockchain.info/en/tx/41f7daad3741ce266687c65a9e63dc6e2b705891cd2241e51ebbc7e11cd14dcb)back soon after getting a couple confirmations.
I was happy to test this service. Thanks :)

I received the 0.001 Btc from OP and initiated this transaction: https://blockchain.info/address/1BqRFVHbwEothKTFJyd7PAowAC4iAieBxV

Have checked to see the status of the transaction well over 6 hours and this is what the picture is like:
https://i.imgur.com/I51jNYRm.png

Dear Victorycoin, have you set the time delay? Because our system says that you specified delay of 2 hour. It seems now the output transaction has been sent and confirmed already.

Please check the time difference between output and input transactions, blockchain.info says it is nearly 2 hours. Also, check the time delay in the Letter of Guarantee generated by our service.

Best,
BitWhisk

If you still have open slots, I can also test it. :)
Here's my BTC address: 3B8H5XdSppwBadA5YVAYWQcWrb7q6tKSEy

Thank you for your interest and feedback! Let's make a pause for now and wait for the reviews of testers who did not share their experience yet :)

Best regards,
BitWhisk team

I have just tested this service and I am really satisfied. I would use it if I needed to mix some of my bitcoins. The whole process is easy to understand, I had no problems with using this service through Tor. The only flaw for me is that the transaction fee set by BitWhisk is quite high. It should be adjustable at least for people who want their transactions to be processed right after they send BTC to your address.

I wouldn't trust a mixer with 0.02 overall funds.

Dear digaran, 0.02 is not our overall funds, it was just coins for testing. Our aim is to build the best customizable mixer with an excellent reputation. And then run it honestly for a long time. We obtained a couple of quite constructive suggestions here, after implementing them we will need some more testing. We will declare a new round here.


Thanks for your reply, edgycorner. We think it's enough for pictures with BTC coins flying into some cloud/mixer/blender/space and then flying out ;D

Just want to try 31w9crhQ7hZce2qby26WWhR2oUNkvshhs5

Hi,
I want to try it too, if stil available.
My address is:
16Tmx1SzmRwaZf377ckv1di6JzGZLPxnsD

Want to try
My address : 1CooLWZap645kT9btAhrqxFYJnG4T9Vwkj

The first reputable member posted here was an alt account with negative trust, full members are posting here because they think they are reputable.
You should have tested your mixer by yourself first, I don't want to see if your mixer works with 0.001BTC, I would like to see how many Bitcoins you have. do you think that you could offer something more than other mixers?

I am a newbie to the forum culture. If you know the users whose feedback is valuable and trustworthy for community we would appreciate if you list them in pm. At the second round of testing we may contact them and see if they agree to test our mixer.


Of course, we tested our system in many different ways before coming here, we are quite sure in the work we have done. But you never know, right? We think it is a good practice to offer people some coins for testing and check what problems may arise. As you can see from the reviews nobody had any substantial negative issues with our service and the feedback is quite positive.

The only possible exception is Victorycoin's case. But I addressed his problem and he did not answer yet.


For machine there is no difference between signing the transaction with 0.001BTC, 1BTC or any other amount. If it works with 0.001BTC it will work with higher appropriate amounts (see below). Let's assume we had dozens of coins now and would be so generous to give people something around 0.1-0.5BTC to test our system. And everything goes smooth. Does it prove that when somebody will come to us with 10BTC we will not run and turn into scam? I guess the answer is no.

The trust is irrational and we think the only way to earn it is to run the business for a long time and have perfect reputation. And this is our only strategy.


First, we warn our customers on maximum amount of coins we can correctly handle during the order process. For now, our reserve is around 0.45BTC, we plan to increase it before making an official announcement of our service.


Yes, we believe so. We had some mixing experience in the past and were not quite satisfied by the current UI of such services.

We offer smart minimum incoming amounts depending on the order details. We do not put fixed fee per target address, instead we inform our users on the current miner's fee rate of our service. We also plan to give our customers control over miner's fee rate, at least for orders with not too long time delays. We also offer order status checking system which we believe is quite user friendly and some of the testers did notice it.

Best,
BitWhisk team

Used the service and it is a very nicely done layout to the site.
Clean and easy to figure out without needing to look up but the faq is available if needed which I didn't require any assistance.

Just as proposes that it does.
Giving my grade A for a crypto mixing service. :)

Let me know if you want to promote your site (SMM) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1405017

If you want to run any campaign : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2382603.msg30705719#msg30705719

I got some BTC to test with. Mixing process went smooth, but the delay was longer than I expected. The transaction was sent 10 minutes after the second confirmation (going off of blocktrail relay times), when I requested no delay.

I dislike how you are forcing me to overpay on fees when getting my funds back. You had a 70sat/byte fee listed on your site for the mixing transaction, which is too overkill. Coinbin (https://coinb.in/#fees) currently suggests 1 sat/byte to get a quick confirmation, and Johoe's mempool stats shows that there are only 0.11 MB worth of transactions in the mempool paying above 10 sat/byte. Even BitcoinFees.Earn.com (https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/), which is known for overkill fees only suggests 30 sat/byte! I'd suggest improving your fee calculation. My deposit used less than 10 sat/byte and it got in the next block!

I'd also consider switching to SegWit addresses to further reduce your fees, which will be beneficial for both you and the customer.

Could i possibly give your service a try?
Although, since im a newbie i understand if you don't want to give me this task to take, however i'd like to help you with this :)

Thanks for your reviews!
I guess this is going to be the last round of testing.

We summarized your suggestions and were working these days quite hard to improve the quality of our service. Fixed a lot of small issues along the road, but the main added features are the following.

1) Now you can control miner's fee (https://bitwhisk.io/faq.html#attack-on-miner-fee) for outcoming transactions directly through the interface. Lets see how it works in production environment.

2) We have refreshed order status page. Now a lot of details are available: schedule of pending payments for all target addresses, sent amount information, etc.

3) As DarkStar_ mentioned our delay randomizing policy was not so good for urgent payments. Now all urgent addresses get payment almost right away, we delay urgent addresses payments by random time interval not longer than 30 seconds. For example, in case of 10 urgent addresses you will receive all your outcoming payments in at most 5 minutes after the second confirmation of incoming transaction.

4) The minimum incoming amount now is not less than 0.0003 BTC, can be higher in accordance to order details you specify.

So, do not pass by. Come and join our testing campaign! We have really small minimum incoming amounts if you could test our service with some small amount of coins (less than 0.001BTC) it would also be very good for our development!

Best regards,
BitWhisk team

I want to have a try too.

1NQ9Th8pURVYzSpsqzWi6JzZscbYwSLy1D

Thanks.

EDIT:

Received and used their service.
Nice and smooth, user-friendly, most details are in there already.

Can add time delay, but which I didn't try, XD.
 

I just tested the mixing service on this site and all went smooth. It took around 30 mins for my coin to arrive on the destination address, well I think thats not long. Tbh I rarely use coin mixing service, which before this site, I just used bitmixer (was my top option), chipmixer, and cryptomixer. Since I dont use this kind of service frequently, then I cant give deeper review on it. Ah I just dont like the image on homepage, some people might mistaken it as a cooking website, and the design is too simple (I'm sure no one will realise this site as crypto service at a glance). And beside of that, I dont find much different between this site with cryptomixer, except the theme color. But the main point is my coin arrived safely, it means the service working well. Thanks and good luck.

I have tested your service. Everything went smooth and fast.  That was my first mixing experience so the detailed FAQ was very usefull, for example bitwhisk code makes the service look safer. The interface is pretty friendly but I would recommend to make a small note that it is not necessary to fill the calculator fields  (or just place calculator a bit separately from the main part).
Good luck guys!

That's a good compromise. I like that you are sending RBF transactions, as it allows you to increase the fee in case the user picked on that is too low. I'd elaborate more on your fee increasing policy though, so that it's clear and you don't get users complaining.

OP requested me to test their service and write my review here.
Well, design is simple, easy to use. I tried mixing coins and it works perfectlty, what I like here the most is that I can set fees on transaction (for example 30 sat/byte and etc). That's great because I can determine when I'll receive coins too, sometimes we need quick confirms, sometimes we aren't in a hurry.
To be fair other things works like other mixers and naturally it can't work on a different way.
It works accurately, I can't say anything about privacy and that's not my job too, I amn't expert in it but mixer itself works.
I can give you a good advice which other mixers don't have :D Add some other languages if you wish.

Yes, it is a good point. The ideal future policy should be smart and responsive to many details. It will take some time to develop. But now we are not sure that these efforts will be justified. So we decided to use a temporary solution: wait for 10 blocks and if a transaction hasn't been confirmed then resend it. We need to experience the first serious load to understand if such a policy is adequate. Then, if needed we'll adjust it and put explicit rules in FAQ section.

Best,
BitWhisk team

Thanks for testing, shield132. I think we will add some in the future ::)

OP gave me 0.0008 BTC to review the mixer.Thanks OP!

It took just 2 initial confirmations(as said) for my final address to receive bitcoins.

Here are my two transactions:
From my wallet to the mixer address:https://blockchain.info/tx/5c5e21ef95c4732242566de27adf07e42be2e3f2f613f13580e12cf45ce35f12

To my Dream Market address:https://blockchain.info/tx/325e465ea558d720fd8c3ca1d731b26ec05c28831249b0d8a0a18ffc940e5fea

I was in no hurry, so an extra wait of 2 blocks is a good bargain for my anonymity.

10/10, will use it again .-.

We still have some coins for testing and yet nobody tried to set time delays or multiple withdraw addresses. If you have a high rank here you can contact me and I will send you some 0.002BTC for testing more complicated order settings.

Best,
BitWhisk

I'll try testing it for you.

1Lknop46bTHvyQX1WyVDZF6XQPD6WC1zdF

I want to try
1AgZmymJjLCLTAwZ1vyTTi3c7XL8tdoui5

The site looks promising to me.

Simple as alike.

- Working perfect
- The response is fast.

I am confused at one point. In your fee section, you have typed that your min commission is 0.5% right. In the next table, you have written that for 1-4 bitcoin it's 0.45 why? But at the same time, it is 0.5% in for all. Correct me if I get it wrong.
Also when

I believe it's something like a "loyalty system". From the fee section: "Remember, when you use BitWhisk regularly with the same code you get a discount. More you mix less you pay."

So, if you mix 3BTC, you pay a commission of 0.45%. If you keep mixing with the same code and get to 6 mixed BTC, you only pay 0.40%, etc...

This also makes me wonder, how is this code "info" stored? How do you link multiple orders to one user to know if he is a loyal costumer?

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P.s: I'm here if you still need someone to try the mixing with multiple addresses/bigger delays 8)

You might have some difficulty managing a mixer with low funds. Nobody is going to send under $20 because your fees and the transaction fees will be too costly and if somebody sends a large amount of coins, you wont have enough volume to properly mix their coins.

Bitcoin mixers are hard to start and you are too late. Some mixers have been in existence for over 5 years and have a good reputation so you are competing against them.

Each mixing order is equipped with a code, either you type it in the corresponding field or a system randomly generates a new one for you. Then we just store the information about how much coins were ever sent to generated addresses with the given code.

Suppose someone creates an order, say with one target address, BitWhisk code "abcdef" and the generated incoming address "1sendbtctothisaddress". When a customer deposits the generated address "1sendbtctothisaddress" with say 0.1BTC we then store the information that 0.1BTC were sent to the code "abcdef". If this customer comes later and mixes 0.1BTC again, we refresh this information, and now the code "abcdef" will bear the mark of 0.2BTC sent to it. The discount is based on this information. That's how it basically works. If you still have some questions left without answers let me know, I will try to shed light on it.

Please note, the information you see in Fees section is not yet correct, it is like a draft. We are still in a testing mode and right now we do not have this amount of coins and do not try to convince anybody to send such sums to our accounts. This will be updated at the time we post an official announcement.


Dear King Pajeet, our funds is our own concern, let us care about them. To test our service we do not have to put hundreds or thousands of btc to our hot wallet, as anyway nobody will mix that much coins in a new service without reputation.

Yes, we know that running mixer is a hard task and yet in our opinion it is not a reason to sit in one's hands. We put a lot of efforts in developing this project. We have made every (in)visible detail as perfect as we can imagine. So let us start this business and see how the world responds to our offer.

Thanks everybody for your feedback/questions/criticism.

Best regards,
BitWhisk team

I was given 1.25mBTC to test delays and multiple withdraw addresses. BitWhisk.io sent me a detailed information about the whole process. I was able to set a time delay for each address up to 48 hours. I have decided to test 2 outputs with a delay of two and six hours. I didn't check how transaction fees changed, I set the transaction fee to 1 sat/b which wasn't enough to get confirmation soon. Fortunately, I was told that BitWhisk automatically increases the fee after 10 blocks and it worked. The whole process was easy to understand, there should be an additional information about fees.

This is what a status page shows you after sending BTC to the provided address.

https://i.imgur.com/QBElI2C.png

if you are looking for investors, please ping me

I'd love to try

BTC Address: 3FrPPmy8P1unA7xuq2ABkkaCCqnKnLksBB


Your website looks REALLY clean! I like the color scheme that used through out and its easy to navigate. Unlike alot of websites its easy to see what links bring me where. But just really smooth and clean!

My opinion after testing the site, I want to say this site is very easy to use!
UI is good, Speed of the site is very fast, The delay option is pretty good (As I used 2 hour delay option and it works well)

Slider works good on Chrome(Android), but not good on Firefox(Android).

Well, I could say that, from your replies that you really care about having a long-term business reputation in mixing industry. giving 0.1BTC to people in a forum to test your new service is a waste of money. what I had in mind, I would like to see you having 1BTC in escrow, and another one for mixing in your hot wallet. if you don't have that much, you could start with 0.2BTC escrowed and 0.2BTC in hot wallet.

You need more coins than 1-2. if you are going to depend on your customers to increase your balance, you'd get nowhere.

I just tried your service. The interface is simple and very easy to use. Your mixing mechanism is also pretty straightforward. Anybody who has a basic understanding of a mixing service should not have experienced any trouble at all when using BitWhisk. Didn't notice any significant delay in the mixing process, good one.

Hope you guys could find enough funds to scale up the mixing capabilities. Good luck!

I have received ~1.25mBTC to test and review this mixer. I have chosen to receive 57% of my mixed coins to my address #1 after 8 hours and the remaining 43% to my address #2 after 6 hours. My first impressions: I really liked the minimalist design of the website and how everything you need to know about your order is shown in the "Order status" page. I'm still waiting for my coins (because of the delay), but it's great how I can easily check when they will are scheduled to arrive - which is great.

I have tested multiple mixers and if this one had a reputation, I would probably choose them over other famous mixers like BitBlender (for simple send->receive mixings, otherwise, I still prefer ChipMixer due to the way they work with the chips).

I will update this post when I receive my coins in ~7 hours.

Edit: I received my coins in the designated time without any delay. Thanks!

Just a quick suggestion: Use segwit. Help the network and save some fees :)

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Why?

Escrow is good but it's not 100% scam-proof. BitMixCoin had 10BTC in escrow for some time and they lowered that amount to 5BTC without any public warning. They could have wait until they had 10BTC from costumers, ask the escrower to half the amount in escrow and still profit 5BTC if they decide to scam everyone. If you choose to setup a escrow and then decide to get the coins back or lower the amount, at least warn everybody a few days in advance.

TryNinja, thanks for the review.

Yes, after other testers finish we will upgrade bitcoin-core to 0.16.0 and switch to using segwit addresses.

Best,
BitWhisk

I have tried the website to mix 0.001btc and here is my review: the design of the website is very very simple and easy to use. Even if you have not mixed any coins in the past, there are good instructions on the website and it is impossible to dont understand how it works. I mixed my coins to two different addresses and I put a delay on one of them. The coins were delivered at the exact time. I dont have anything else to say, the fees are the same as on other mixers so as the other details. What will make difference is how you promote your website.

Hi guys! First of all, thanks to all testers, your help is appreciated.

We worked hard to make our service better and there is a number of quite important updates! See the list below.

1) We switched to using segwit addresses.

2) Smart resending policy. Namely, we resend your transaction only if the following conditions are met:

• The transaction hasn't been confirmed for 5 blocks since sending;
• The change of unconfirmed transaction is needed to process other users payment.

So, basically, if no heavy load is present, then your transaction will wait for confirmation infinitely long. We updated FAQ-section with explicit declaration of these details.

Hence, the only possibility when your payments are extra-delayed by our fault is that we need an unconfirmed change. The system of order status checking should notify you about such situation. However, such cases should be quite rare (see next point) and if this happens we will refund your service commission.

3) We updated our mixing algorithm. First, we minimize the number of transaction inputs and then minimize the change amount for given number of inputs. This adds randomness in our transaction history and minimizes unconfirmed change amount.

4) Small technical updates concerning calculation of minimum incoming amount for the order. Suppose optimal miner's fee rate is 100sat/B and you specify the rate of 10sat/B, then min. incoming amount will be calculated using optimal rate, i.e. 100sat/B. Just to exclude dust payments from handling.

Currently, the only and main drawback is that we do not have enough BTC to mix :'(

We would like to test the system before making an official ann. If you are interested, write your address here or in PM.

Best regards,
BitWhisk team

I'd like to help test the service; I worked for coinmixer.se for a couple of months, so I have a bit of insight on what mixing services is concerned

Hi,
I want to try it, if still available.
My address is:
13YqUxAkX3gh9X8iwVxVmAsxzL1AftU3Gf

Review:
First, the mixing website UI is straightforward and easy to use, but I don't know how the mixer can attract others' attention and beat other famous mixers.

Hello BitWhisk.io team,

Thanks for introducing SegWit! It might help with making your service popular after you officialy announce it. Since you upgraded to the latest Bitcoin Core, could you tell me if you can send to Bech32 addresses?
I would be glad to test your service again after improvements.

Link to my review: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2967907.msg31295397#msg31295397

Now, all generated incoming addresses are p2sh-segwit, this already should greatly reduce the miner's fee.
We do not currently support bech32 format (the system will consider bech32 address as incorrect). Could you tell what are it's benefits over using p2sh-segwit?

Should we expect that bech32 will become the main format of addresses in future?

Best regards,
BitWhisk team

New bech32 format is technically a native SegWit, using it would decrease the transaction size which would lead to lower transaction fees [1]. However, not every wallet supports bech32 format, yet, so I think you should stick to Nested (P2SH-P2WPKH) for some time. Although, it would be nice to be able to receive mixed coins to bech32 address. Feel free to PM when you will decide to implement it.

[1] - https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/65856/how-do-bech32-addresses-compare-to-p2sh-addresses-in-transaction-size

So, I tried the service and it works perfectly fine. Simple interface; easy way to adjust the fees and the bitcoins were really mixed (after checking all the inputs and their inputs). Time delays working fine too

I hope they have good luck and that they get many investors ;D ;D

I want to have a try and make comments if available.

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 ;D Yeah, another direction to develop. We will enable the possibility to send to bech-32 in a few days.

I have used this service with 0.001 btc.Here is my review.It has a user very friendly interface.Using segwit address makes it possible to reduce the miner's fee much.Also,fee is less when compared to other existing popular mixer services.More over,letter of guarantee is provided which seems missing in even other famous mixers.I hope that this service would definitely attract and help lots of bitcoin owners who wish to use legit mixing services and stay anonymous.

I have received my coins in the appropriate time without any delay.

Dear HasHe and csmiami, it is very pleasant to obtain such good reviews from you.

However, yesterday we sent coins for testing to three persons and server processed only one mixing request. And then two reviews came up. What should we think? Does it mean that one of you two (we cannot know who) did not mix any coins with us?

We are still testing, so if both of you indeed mixed coins then something very strange is happening :o

Best,
BitWhisk

I would like to give a review for your service as well.
However, if you do not trust me, i can test your service with my own funds and then you can send them once i am done with testing.
But here is my BTC address if there are still spots available for the testing queue: 1ACCs9LEvxV2o4zSWKMUYUHp1DKTrAHFcU

Best Regards.

Dear Sellingaccs, did you mix 1mBTC with us? If yes, we apologize for delay, you helped to open up a small bug when sending too small change.
Anyway, the bug is fixed and the payment is processed.

Best,
BitWhisk

No i did not, i'd like to help to test your service if this task is still open.

I downloaded the letter of guaranty; and I will be able to copy paste it when I reach home if neccesary 8)

Updated:

Please find the summary below which shows that i have checked your service by sending 0.001 BTC


Order summary

Please mind that any payments to the generated address after 10 March 2018, 01:03:10 UTC will be ignored.
Incoming payments
Unconfirmed   0 BTC
One confirmation   0 BTC
Received amount   0.00100000 BTC
Let us recall that minimum incoming amount for your order is 0.00004227 BTC, while current maximum incoming amount corresponding to your BitWhisk code is 0.43896524 BTC. Miner's fee rate for outcoming transactions is 10 sat/B.
Below is the summary of scheduled and executed payments.
Output #1
Address   1MFc...PRP
Sent   0.00098283 BTC
Thank you for using BitWhisk.


Wishing your team a Great Success.

Interesting. Want to test it and willing to give feedback ASAP. I know this is not a newbie task, but it would be great if I get a chance. Thank you.
BTC: 13iKgAHZ1nmCfHyVT4n8gaZZHAjoVpEsYx

I would like to try your service. Please send me in details.
Btc: 1LWTeB5BAh8qC2M2Dp6GM27RsTajhbFxEg

Dear HasHe and Csmiami, thanks for your replies! Now everything is ok, we mixed your coins. Moreover, an order of HasHe helped to discover a bug with too small change amount. We already fixed it.

Dear Sellingaccs, fmboyzz, superman22. We appreciate your interest. In the past we sent some coins to people with small rank and some of them didn't accomplished the testing. We have very low minimum incoming amounts, so that you could test with your own BTC without any significant risk. We understand that then you do not have incentive to post a review, but as it is.

Best regards,
BitWhisk team

I'm digging the simplicity of your website's user flow, but also the complexity of how much detail went into providing this mixing service. I'll use your service this weekend for a small transaction of around $20 and provide my feedback at that time. Question: Is the default miner's fee automatically updated? If so, which recommended fee structure are you utilizing? I currently see 110 sat/b, which seems very high for a SegWit transaction.

Random request (I know, I know; this is prior to utilizing your service): Would it be possible to add an auto-converted field that allows me to enter a USD amount rather than a BTC amount, or vice versa?

Example:
https://i.imgur.com/0Uk1zog.jpg

Thanks, it would be very nice!


Yes, it's automatically updated.


At first we thought of creating our own algorithm for optimal fee calculation, but it turned out that necessary data cannot be easily extracted through bitcoin core api. Hence we decided to use temporary solution: api provided by https://bitcoinfees.earn.com

We are currently checking the behaviour of standard bitcoin core method "estimatesmartfee". And maybe in future we will use this one instead of using somebody else's api.

We are still testing and open for constructive criticism. If you know of a better strategy for miner's fee calculation share it with us and maybe our service will become better because of your suggestion. Itd be great, wouldn't it?


What do you mean by "very high for SegWit transaction"? Fee is paid per bytes, no matter if transaction is segwit or not?


Thanks for suggestion, I think we will add this feature.

Hey guys! Here we are, bumping this thread with our last updates.

1) Now it is possible to receive coins to bech-32 addresses. Hence we are the first mixer supporting new address format.
2) Calculator conversion to USD.
3) Miner's fee is calculated according to the base transaction size (i.e. without witness part).
4) We fixed some small backend bugs concerning sending from several inputs and miner's fee calculation.

We have coins for testing! If you are a full member or higher, join our testing company, write your address here or in pm and get 1mBTC for testing!

We especially welcome those who could test our implementation of bech32 addresses. Don't come across.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

Will you be accepting members that already participated, or you want some new flesh? ;)

To be honest, we would like to attract a fresh blood, but let's see how many people will get interested.

Sure thing. I'll leave my address just in case  ;D

Good luck finding candidates :D

bc1qua3xhnu5xgswhep3e8tagpgw7gxj7nh0jdx9xf

Hi bitwhisk.io I am wondering if you have any live chat operative jobs for your website, so if anything goes wrong i can be there to fix it like a stuck order and what not.

Hello

I would like to try your services..My bitcoin address

1KhmssBbyaAQfrCKdX3V7J9gaLR1wuyaeX

Thanks.

Thanks for suggestion, ripplehd1. No, we do not yet have live chat operator jobs. Maybe in future.

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Still looking for testers, especially those who could receive coins from mixer to bech-32 addresses.

Best,
BitWhisk.io

Hello BitWhisk.io team,

I would be glad to test your service once again. I was the person who proposed implementing support of bech32 addresses. If possible, I would like to test it using my native SegWit address.
bc1q038eelakz9xm2d8kuy8gx9fuy0t547ncqlnc56

You are improving your service really fast, keep going!

I was given another 1 mBTC to test bech32 transactions and I am glad to say that everything works perfect. BitWhisk.io didn't have any problem with receiving from my bech32 address and then sending to another one. Everything went smooth and I got my mixed coins after a moment.

Thank you for testing and posting review, dear BitCryptex.

TBH, we are quite disappointed by the results of the last testing round. We gave coins to five persons, four of them with high reputation, and only two mixes were accomplished and one review written (by you). Hence, thanks for your honesty.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

Sorry for my absence; I’m just going back through my list of subscribed threads and coming back to this. I know it won’t be a problem, but I’ll mix a few coins using a nested P2SH SegWit address and post the results here. 3MCJBtW2uhvm7BJMtc4yxQUhGKoqD7q12x If you’re still sending test coins. Otherwise, please let me know and I’ll use my own coins. I could understand that you’ve been burned by some dishonest members.

You should leave them negative trust, btw. That type of behavior is exactly why the trust system exists here.

Dear BTCforJoe, I am glad you didn't forget our thread. If possible, please mix your own coins (no need to risk a big amount, we have very low minimum incomes, just in case) and leave a feedback here. After that I will send you some reward to 3MCJBtW2uhvm7BJMtc4yxQUhGKoqD7q12x. I hope it is allright for you.

Thanks for advice about trust reports.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

I have tried to send some bitcoin for testing, but I cannot get past the popup dialogue that asks me to confirm that the address will only be valid for 24 hours. I am on an iPad, and nothing happens when I click the “Accept” button, nor when I click the “x” to close out the dialogue.

I just refreshed the page and tried again. This time it was successful. I have set a delay of 5 hours for my $10 transaction. I will update this thread again once the tumbling is complete and I receive the chips to the address I provided.

A quick note: what is the point of adding the amount before the payment screen? The payment screen just instructs me to send a minimum/maximum amount of bitcoin, which is contradictory to the btc amount field in the previous screen.  Is it just a reference to see what our return will be after the mixing procedure?

Hello! I've recently used .001 BTC from a Nested SegWit address (3 Address) and it made it back to me successfully. I had no problem setting my own fee, getting a custom delay and I made it through the UI on the website without flaw. The fees are minimal, and the mixing looks pretty solid as well. I don't know if you are handing out rewards for using your service as you have mentioned to Joe, but I thought it would be nice to use your service for my own tests and report back here. I have not yet tried a Native SegWit address, is this something that your service has implemented?

I sent .001 and received back .00097784. I want to test a higher amount, with varying delays, addresses and other settings. I just do not want to eat too much of my personal funds to do so. So far though, very nice!

I'm in a similar boat to Joe. I haven't forgotten about you guys either. I was around for the initial round of testing I believe and I wrote up a nice review about how enjoyable the UI looked on mobile devices (iOS, more specifically). I have also come back to mix some coins through your service, because it's unfortunate that you gave people coins specifically to test Nested SegWit addresses and nobody did so. I sent .002 through, with a delay and a custom fee. No problems thus far, very clean, very responsive and transparent. I can really see you guys becoming a bigger name in this niche. I would like to see a bigger maximum mix, but I can understand that you're working with limited capital from the beginning. I wouldn't mind accepting a reward, but I certainly am not expecting one, either.  ;D

Wow, a lot of activity for the past week. Will be glad to answer all questions.


We have been doing updates on the server that time  :o 8)
Looks like a coincidence: you clicked "Accept" button right at the moment when we were changing the backend code. It is the only reason I can think of.


Let me explain, the calculator is aimed to help you to configure the order, e.g. set the proper percent distribution (if you need a specific amount transferred to some of the addresses) etc. It is completely optional, we do not send to server the values of calculator input fields. It does not play any role in the order registration. Moreover, we do not need to know the exact amount of coins you are going to send to our wallet. You can send anything between minimum and maximum constraints.

Hence, the answer on your last question is "definetely, yes" :)

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Dear EthanB, first of all we are glad you didn't come across and decided to test our service with your own coins, thanks. It is truly encouraging for us.

This review campaign lasts for more than a month now. First time, people took our coins, tested mixer and posted reviews, but the last two weeks something has changed: 4-5 persons took btc from us and disappeared. We still have some people that promised to test the service and post a review and we hope they'll do so. Still, this review campaign is coming to an end.

The main (and the only one) problem with our service is that we do not have enough coins in the reserve (otherwise, of course, I would send you these 0.001BTC). However, we do not lose heart and very soon we will run a signature campaign for two weeks and try to attract some investors. Yes, yes, I understand it may sound hopeless, but we really put a lot of effort in creating this service. We designed it with love and passion and want to be active on the market. Hence, lets see what results this future sig campaign brings.


Yes, during this month we have implemented a lot of things and improved the service a bit.
In particular, we support receiving from and sending to bech32 (see BitCryptex second review (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2967907.msg32398976#msg32398976)).

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

After the 5hr delay I configured for this tumble, I have received my coins with no issues. I used a nested SegWit address to fund the mix, and received it to a nested SegWit address, as well. I went to check the status of my order after my coins were sent to me, and I’m glad to know that there was no reference to the order on your servers. After utilizing the service once, I must say that it is an extremely simple service to use; it’s the simplest out of all the mixers I have previously used.

Needless to say, but I will anyways: I have added this to the list of mixers that I use on a regular basis.

No need to send me any rewards for providing my experience. I just hope that this service is a continued one, and a profitable venture for you. You’ve got my vouch, so I hope you truly take the opportunity to gain some trust and reputation! Great addition to the privacy aspect of bitcoin!

Dear Bill and Joe,

we are glad to obtain such nice reviews from you! Today we have started our official ann thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3206015) and quoted both of you there. So, the testing time has mainly passed.

We have a lot of plans for future development, including introducing another mixing mode and adding more cryptocurrencies. However, we need more coins in the reserve for that purpose. Hope our future signature campaign will attract some investors from the forum.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

Are you still in need of testers?
I know im just a Jr. Member, but im willing to try with my own coins.
How much would i have to pay in fees to mix, as i'd try with few mBTC, so i'd like to know how much in tx fees i have to pay and service fee in total.

Dear Sellingaccs, of course, it would be great if you test the service.


Generally speaking, you choose service commission, it varies from 0.5 to 3 percents. You also control miner's fee rate for outcoming transactions. The total fee is thus estimated via calculator provided to you on the order page, feel free to use it.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

If you are still in need of testers let me know if I would be accepted to try.
Are you still giving the bounty base amount to test your service?

Dear Paractor, it is a pity you came too late.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

For what it is worth, the delay worked and the custom fee worked as well. I like that you have set a maximum fee of 3%, because that saves anybody from accidentally giving you an absurd fee on accident. Your website has been very user friendly so far, and I've received back my coins without fault.

I have to admit that I was extremely skeptical at first, but I'm looking forward to seeing your site develop further and participate in future testing if need be. The way you performed testing was very generous and interesting.

I have my reservations and will most likely not have this as my primary mixer, for simple reasons such as the maximum is too low and this gives me a bit of a concern still. The idea that there is such limited funds involved in this project makes me fear that it may vanish at any time. The signature campaign will ease these concerns a bit, because the funds required for that are quite significant if you're running a campaign to any worthwhile degree. I think an increase in funds, maximum mix and forum presence in the form of a signature campaign without low-quality participants would go a long way towards increasing your reputation.

Thanks for testing, Bill.


Yes, we understand your concerns, we started our campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3207467) couple of days ago.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

Yikes. I'm not so sure you do understand my concerns. I'm not so sure you understand what reasonable concerns should be in this scenario, either. Unfortunately the very first thing I see when I click that link is :

That is not a comforting sign when a new service is popping it's head into the market. The campaign manager you have selected for your campaign is somebody that has been banned in the past. This is a new account they have created, and thus they are evading a currently standing ban. What this means for you, is that your account manager could very easily disappear at any moment. Ban evasion is a banable offense AFAIK, so if they do get banned I wouldn't expect your funds to be returned; Especially considering the fact that their original ban was due to begging through unsolicited PMs.

Out of pure curiosity, what criteria were considered when choosing a manager for your signature campaign? I'm wondering if you have read these threads or any other threads in accusation or connection to your manager -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1528178.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1073373

It seems rather hypocritical that you cannot have negative trust in order to be a participant in the signature campaign, however the campaign manager has multiple, valid negative trusts. I presume you are paying this user, so I can only think to ask one question; why?

Originally there was a merit requirement on this thread, but that was removed and I can't imagine a reason other than it being similarly hypocritical, as the manager has never received merit, either.

For example, I just took a peek at a single accepted campaign participate jakezyrus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1080167) and what I found should not make you happy in the slightest. They have never received a single merit point, which can be overlooked if their posting habits are just being overlooked by those without merit to give. This is not the case though, because a look through their most recent posts shows their last 3-posts (linked below) are all the 1000th+ reply in a megathread, buried deep within the depths in spam. One of them is actually the 2500th+ reply, so that's even more egregious. Spoiler alert, their posts don't get better as you keep digging. Would any one of their posts be the type of post or the type of exposure you are looking to accrue or pay for?

In fact, not a single one of the accepted participants have received a single merit since it has been implemented. This should stand out when you have multiple hero members posting in your campaign. One of the accepted participants has only posted twice in the past 3-months and one of the posts was their application to your campaign.

The lack of judgement here is really off-putting from my perspective. I would have liked to have seen a more reputable manager, accepting higher quality participants with less hypocritical and more discriminatory rules/criteria. In my opinion, it is much better to be extremely selective in this process. This is your business, and I'm sure you would like to see it succeed; you will do more harm than good if you allow this signature campaign, with this manager and these participants play out as it currently is. I'm honestly here to help you and be as straightforward as I possibly can. What questions and criteria did you use to set-up the framework for this signature campaign?

The biggest question here is : Do you see anything I have mentioned as a problem?

Although we are going a bit off-topic here, I feel it's still valid, as this is an evaluation thread for a service/site that you wanted feedback for.

Signature campaigns are effective, yes. But they are only as effective as the users that are a part of that campaign. Generally speaking, you're not going to find much use for 25 users to be a part of your campaign if the majority of them are 3rd-world shitposters that spam the wrong parts of the forum. The areas in which your participants post need to target your services. Chance are that Bitcoin Discussion doesn't warrant the need to display your ad, as it's generally filled with 3rd-world sig spammers who don't see a value in mixing coins, as their only goal is to cash out their earnings every week.

Honestly, if I were you, I would kill your signature campaign, and start a thread where you're looking to find [up to] 10 substantial members of this forum that you're willing to pay. Given that you're spending about 0.4BTC for two weeks, I'd rather take that and offer 0.01BTC per week for a month for up to 10 participants. Full Member and up only.

Mixers are very important to privacy, and with the shutdown of BitMixer, we've been seeing a lot popping up... Given that your UI is so clean, and your userflow is excellent, there's no reason why you shouldn't be one of the top competing mixers in this space. But perception is everything. Everything.

Unfortunately, after seeing that you hired a campaign manager without doing your homework has actually damaged my perception of your company. All of a sudden, it doesn't feel reputable or trustworthy, but rather one that seems like it will do anything to get the word out, even if that means hiring the bad actors in the crypto world that don't have any integrity. You simply cannot associate yourself with these types of members of the crypto world.

Aww, shit, BitWhisk, I had so much hope for you, but actions mean everything here, and I hate to say that you haven't made the right ones so far, other than this thread.

Well, guys, we thought that the whole idea of running a campaign is to show users of the forums our signatures. If the users hiring into campaign get their payments, then what is wrong? We are not going to scam anybody here.

Concerning trust parameter. We have checked other managers and while some of them have green trust they have much more red feedback in the untrusted feedback category than lolxxxx. Moreover, lolxxxx has quite good feedback from some established businesses. Right now, as the campaign is open this user is doing his job well, he is on connection with us and we are discussing this whole situation. Quality of the posters is important but our manager doesn't hire everybody who has applied. Aren't these good signs?

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

Under all above circumstances we have decided to close the current campaign. Definitely, it was our mistake and it won't happen again. I tried to explain my logic in the previous post, but we want to be a part of a community and violation of current rules about trust will not drive us anywhere.

Our excuses to the enrolled users. They should receive payment from our manager soon. I confirm we received the payment for the manager's work back from lolxxxx. Will update this post when everybody will receive their funds.

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UPD: I received a payment for campaign back from the user lolxxxx.
UPD2: All the enrolled users approved they obtained a small reward for wearing our signature a couple of days.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

Who do you think will be seeing your signatures buried deep in spam megathreads as the 1000th, 2500th or 4000th+ reply? Even if that was the whole idea of running a campaign, you are not achieving that goal.


You have to think beyond the participants of the campaign receiving their funds, especially considering the participants that have been selected thus far do not qualify as a contributing member of the forum by any measure. If you are pleased with paying these participants after acknowledging everything I have laid out, then I can only imagine you are operating with cognitive dissonance and this is unfortunate. What is wrong is the users you are choosing to pay. What is wrong is the message you are sending by defending the posting habits of these users and in fact incentivizing it financially. You may not scam anybody, but your campaign manager has represented companies that have scammed people in the past; this doesn't look good, because it associates you very heavily with their past scams.


Untrusted feedback rarely has value.
Why do you think Default Trust, and Trusted Feedback are a separate category? They hold more weight and are a good defensive measure against users with multiple alternate accounts, like lolxxxx, that have malicious intent and would abuse the system.


Point me to them. I see none.
The only "established" entity I can see affiliated with lolxxxx is the infamous bitconnect scam that made a mockery out of millions and crypto in general.


So, then to answer my question; No, you do no see anything that I have pointed out as a significant enough problem to warrant a solution. You honestly believe your campaign manager is doing their job well, even after seeing the participants they have selected. After seeing the hypocritical rules/criteria. I am baffled and was hoping to hear a different response from you.


Your manager also did not "hire" anybody that is a quality member or respected. Your manager did not even the hire the best applicants. Your manager has been found in possession of multiple high ranking alternate accounts; I would honestly be suspicious that they are alt accounts or friends of theirs. I would not necessarily say that these are good signs in collaboration with the rest of what we are seeing.

All in all, this was a very disappointing response about the entire situation. Your participants and campaign manager are single handedly going to take down your business' reputation.


Edit : Seems like you've realized how disastrous this would become, quickly. Good thinking to close the campaign, at least until things are better sorted.

Dear Bill, thank you very much for your detailed feedback. We will take your every word into account. I admit this was completely our mistake. Good thing is that we didn't hire a lot of users yet. We will develop a new campaign in a couple of days. Maybe we will hire another trusted manager or will run it by ourselves. Once again, thanks for such a quick reaction.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

Thank you for being so responsive every step of the way. I'm not trying to bully you into doing anything you are not interested in doing and it's not as though I was planning a witch hunt had you not shut down the campaign. I have just been around long enough to see how things play out and as human beings we are well equipped to recognize patterns when they arise. This was one of those unfortunate patterns until just now, as most companies would have ridden that wave stubbornly until the end of their days. You have broken the pattern and now you control the fate of your company again, not these uninterested leeches that hang around the forums. Kudos to you.

Please, feel free to inquire further. If you have any questions you can feel free to PM me or ask openly within this thread. I want to see you succeed as I have stated many times. If you are in need of a quality signature manager then let me know and I will point you in the direction of experienced and reputable. A lot of these trusted campaign mangers have racked up a large amount of untrusted negative feedback by doing exactly as I am suggesting and making enemies by discriminating low-quality users from their campaign.

You've made many adjustments since you've announced your service and this can just be considered a logistical hiccup that is put behind us. Continue to learn from the mistakes, continue to take criticism with dignity and continue to be willing to learn in the way you have been; This project will come together before long.

Hey BitWhisk, I don’t know why I didn’t think about this before, but bill gator would actually make a great campaign manager... given that he is wearing a signature of one of your competitors lol. But he is extremely thorough and I have no doubt that he would be able to provide you with some quality management and even better reviews of participants.

Lol, sorry bill, if you don’t have the time or desire, but hey... I’m calling it like I see it!

BitWhisk, I’ve readded your site to my bookmarks; I have no issues with tumbling small amounts of coins until you can gain some reputation here. Again, kudos for handling this in a swift manner.

I find it very amusing that BTCForJoe has been accused of being my alt, or is it that I am Joe's alt? That's pretty funny, and I would have to assume that you are UME/lolxxxx or whatever else you'd like to call yourself. I do not have a personal problem with you or anybody else, I just was simply trying to protect this new company from falling victim to a known scammer.

yahoo, lauda, lutpin, darkstar, hilariousandco are all pretty solid managers that normally have no problem taking on a new campaign.

Do you care to substantiate your claims or is this silly accusation game something you plan to do without evidence? Let me guess, everybody in the ChipMixer campaign is one person with many alts. You are a joke. I refuse to go back and forth you any longer on this issue within someone else's thread. If you would like anybody to take you seriously, then create a thread in reputation, scam accusation or wherever else you believe it to be necessary.

I can only assume this was your attempt to slight darkstar, when I figure I would be the baby alt in this scenario, right?

If it is going to be irrelevant to bitwhisk, then please refrain from posting it within this thread. This thread is for the development, testing, commentary, suggestion, etc. surrounding their new service in an attempt to get it successfully off the ground.

I doubt BitWhisk is interested in having me as their campaign manager. I have no experience in this field, and though I am willing to learn, I doubt this is something they are willing to entertain at this point. BitWhisk needs a manager that is reputable and going to get the job done right without mistake. They can do better than me, and while I am flattered by Joe's suggestion I see this as a slight conflict of interest. Whether it be because I was the first to take issue with lolxxxx or that I am apart of ChipMixer, either way it would be potentially problematic. If I was to take on such an endeavor I would request approval from Darkstar first, as to not step on any toes. Again though, there are better choices and these people would do a better job.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545652.0
BitWhisk, take a read through this thread. Also read up on the others we have mentioned.

I don't know why any of you would entertain the support of a competition (Bill, Joe, Don)?. @Lauda and Lutpin, this is a trap, do not accept managing any campaign for BitWhisk.io. thanks before.


Is this what Joe has raised you to do? you are not doing any good, you are just insulting somebody in favor of another member.


There is no scamming, I don't know why would they post so constructively here, but they are not scamming anybody.

digaron, your posts never get me upset, man. I'm always laughing while I read your posts, in a genuinely amused manner. I mean this as a compliment, honestly.

What sort of trap do you suppose it would be?

Competition breeds success.

If Darkstar_ feels that we should have nothing to say in terms of other mixers, then they are free to let us know and we will either stop doing so, part ways or negotiate something else to the satisfaction of every party involved. I am simply sharing my thoughts, some positive, some negative, but all of them straightforward and honest. I post around the forum as if I do not have a signature under my name, therefore it is not a consideration when I'm writing my post. I doubt ChipMixer sees this service as competition, anyways. They are just getting their wings and freshly walking into the market. If there is going to be any drama involved, I will gladly walk away from this thread and BitWhisk. I do not want to bring any problems their way, and they are not worth bringing any problems upon myself. I just wanted to help out what seems to be an honest company looking for feedback; that is pretty rare coming from a lower ranking account these days. In other words, it was refreshing to pop my head into this thread and see nobody being scammed or spammed. I hope this helps you understand a little better the reasons or motivations behind my involvement in this thread. If not, keep the questions coming and I'll be honest and straightforward in my explanations or answers. I can't speak for anybody else, so they will have to do so if they care to answer your questions.


I agree with you here. Turning this thread into a flame war isn't helping anything.
The way you word things gets me everytime.
;D Daddy Joe raised us better than that!


The constructive posting part was addressed above, so I'll leave it at that on that issue. Thank you, for keeping your concerns level-headed and reasonable, for now. ;) I fear that you shouldn't be scaring off campaign managers from this company, because that seems a little unfair to do to them.

I am not going to *quote you bill, can I call you bill since we're jump-buddies? a.k.a F word instead of jump. I wouldn't have appreciated you to bump a competition's thread if I were sir Chipmixer the great. every service has to start from somewhere, this one could become a service like Chipmixer some day if they have it in them. there is nothing don could say here, he is nothing to Chipmixer but a manager and he is the most constructive poster of all. Flol.

This is a trap, because they have tagged the **poor lolxxx a.k.a "the account farmer and scammer". what would you call them if they'd taken his job because of what they have done to him with their feedback?

*I don't want you to have me quoting you here, in case if you are going to delete your post.

**Replace poor with F word, but don't mistake it with my usual Flol. Flol.

At this point I have said more negative than positive about BitWhisk, because of their recent issues with this signature campaign nonsense. You can call me whatever you like digaron, since we're jump buddies. I have probably provided all of the helpful feedback I can provide to this company, and you may have a point. I meant it more as, if ChipMixer decided then Darkstar_ would probably be the person that relays this message. I was just assuming that it would come through them.

I don't plan on deleting my posts, have I said something inappropriate?

lolxxxx was tagged for their past scams, ban evasion and being involved in ponzi schemes. I guess I am still confused about the whole trap thing, but you always have interesting reasoning that goes along with your statements. You've been using less profanity lately, and I can only hope that you can keep your nose clean. ;)

I see what you're saying, and don't disagree with you, really. I'll probably leave them to their own devices as far as suggestions, testing or anything like that regarding their service goes. Let them fly out of the nest and see how things go. No sense in putting more thought and care into their service than the owners.  ;D

I gave bitwhisk a try, and have a few words to share my experience.
The process was fairly simple, no complications at all. You enter the amount, which you'd like to mix and then send funds over to the generated address.
I liked the simplicity of the process, as well as the fact that you can enter a custom fee if you'd like to. However i wish that there was only requirement of 1 confirmation for small amounts as it makes no sense that there is need to wait for 3 if mixing for example under 0.001BTC.

Thank you for your testing, Sellingaccs. Maybe we will accept small amount transactions after one confirmation, but it is not a high priority task. Actually, we accept all incoming amounts with 2 confs, why do you mention 3?

Hello, if it is still available I would like to test 3NT2aS6mNiZTmhHJagunBN9jRu4hPS96ef

Hi steve, we have launched a signature campaign and right now we are not in need of new testers. However, if you are interested you can always test our service with your own coins.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

Hey Bitwhisk! I have noticed, that you did not add anything to my review. Is it what you agree on, or you just have nothing to add to as it's my personal experience?
Even tho if i don't get paid for this review, i still want to contribute and help you testing such a service. I would love to see a Signature Campaign from you accepting everyone who is a Quality Poster, and not restricting people only by ranks. I've seen many great Jr. Member posters as well.

Dear Sellingaccs, we are spending a big part of our reserve on signature campaign, I hope you can understand our situation. You mixed small amount, so almost all your coins are back in your wallet.

In case you didnt notice my answer, I quote it below.


Best regards,
BitWhisk.io

The guys at Bitwhisk approached me nearly 3 weeks ago to review their website. After a brief conversation with them, I agreed to do a paid but fair and unbiased review
of their mixing service available through their website at Bitwhisk.io
However, due to circumstances, I was not able to come back to the forum for nearly 2 and a half weeks. Which brings me to now, finally, I'll be reviewing Bitwhisk.io from the user's perspective.

Landing Page :
The landing page is very straightforward. I am presented with just one button that starts the mixing process. At this point, I'll have to admit that their page looks pretty bland, and I wasn't impressed with their character mascots or logo or whatever this is :

I do appreciate a clean look, but too clean and some graphics that looks like something from a children's book doesn't feel right, especially considering this is a financial website that deals with Cryptocurrencies.

Mixing Page :
The controls at the mixing page are very rudimentary, but they are effective. Although I've seen some more advanced options being deployed by other services.
I didn't like the fact that I could not customize the delay, it was fixed at either no delay or have a delay of 2 hours.
Also, the minimum service fee that I could apply for my small transaction was 0.5% which isn't unbearable.
The prominently featured calculator makes it very convenient to see how much of money I'll put in versus what I'll get back.
I liked the fact that they sent me a pop-up message, stating that the incoming deposit address that they would generate in the next step would only be valid for 24 hours.

Deposit Page :

Since this was my first time with Bitwhisk, I left the BitWhisk Code box empty in the previous page, I've read that they do allow custom codes, so anyone can enter a code that they want instead of the one that Bitwhish generates on this deposit page. According to Bitwhisk, it is important to save this code as it would ensure that never again in the future when you use their service, would your old coins be mixed with the new ones that you deposit for mixing.

I was easily able to save and then later verify the Letter of Guarantee that is provided on this page. However, do note that Bitwhisk advises against using third party verifiers to verify the Letter of Guarantee. And I agree with their reasoning behind it.

I used a SegWit enabled wallet to send the deposit to the address generated by Bitwhisk. I was trying to see if they recognized the instant SegWit transactions.

At this point, I thought the page would display the unconfirmed deposits live on this page, but it wasn't the case, I had to go over to the "Order Status" page, enter the generated address and then check if it detected my deposit. It did detect the unconfirmed deposit and all I had to do now was wait for confirmations.

After about 30 minutes the coins were confirmed and almost instantaneously the address that I entered in the beginning, got the mixed return deposit.

Overall, a smooth experience
It needs to be a bit more advanced, they need to implement a few more strategies, few clinks here and there and the UI needs to improve. They do have a very detailed FAQ page which makes it so much more convinient for the less experienced users to get used to the platform. I wish the team all the very best.

Dear legendster, thank you for your review. We would like to clarify a couple of moments.


Why exactly you couldn't customize the delay? Did delay slider refuse to work in your browser?

In principle, any target address can be assigned with delay between 0 and 48 hours. Long time delays are randomly biased by small time intervals up to 10 minutes.


We do not display order information on the order page because of time delays. What if a customer order has a long time delay, should she then leave the browser tab open all the time? Instead we provide different page, where you can check the status of your order at any time. This means that after checking of Letter of Guarantee and sending coins to the generated address customer can close the order page without any doubt. We think this approach is more user friendly.


Could you please elaborate a little more on this? What exactly we can implement and what aspects of UI need to be improved?

Once again, thank you for your criticism.

Best regards,
BitWhisk.io