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Title: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: appleannie on September 24, 2013, 01:50:34 AM
Hi,
I just purchased 4 ASIC USB miners. Yes, I know this is barely 1 G/hs, but it is a start. I downloaded and installed the GUI miner software. I keep getting a message there is nothing to mine. Is there something I am doing wrong?
My computer runs at 2 GHz. It runs on an AMD. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thank you


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: Trongersoll on September 24, 2013, 03:12:14 AM
Hi,
I just purchased 4 ASIC USB miners. Yes, I know this is barely 1 G/hs, but it is a start. I downloaded and installed the GUI miner software. I keep getting a message there is nothing to mine. Is there something I am doing wrong?
My computer runs at 2 GHz. It runs on an AMD. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thank you

Try cgminer or bfgminer, I'm not sure gui miner supports USBs


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: Beastlymac on September 24, 2013, 03:54:04 AM
Sounds like you need to install drivers.
http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/Pages/USBtoUARTBridgeVCPDrivers.aspx


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: SirMintALot on September 24, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
1.) Install driver like Beastlymac wrote
2.) use BFGminer, CGminer or Bitminter, Guiminer doesnt work with ASICs. Bitminter is nearly as noob friendly as Guiminer but requires Java. BFGminer is the miner with less hardware errors than the other two, this will give you more bitcoins in return. CGminer requires a spezial driver (Zadig) but offers USB hotplugging. There is also the https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268933.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268933.0) GUI BE Miner, which I havent tried, but it is just a GUI Interface to an older version of BFGminer.


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: crudpuppy on September 26, 2013, 01:48:13 AM
Also pick a good pool and get that setup.  You didn't specify any pool inf your post so maybe your trying solo mining but with a few usb eruptors would take forever.  With most pools you can set difficulty which for a small setup like that choose 1 and you should start seeing shares submitted fairly soon after starting it up.  I use cgminer personally found it to work the usb eruptors just slightly higher at their full 336 which bfgminer didn't want to for me.


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: appleannie on September 26, 2013, 07:39:49 PM
Also pick a good pool and get that setup.  You didn't specify any pool inf your post so maybe your trying solo mining but with a few usb eruptors would take forever.  With most pools you can set difficulty which for a small setup like that choose 1 and you should start seeing shares submitted fairly soon after starting it up.  I use cgminer personally found it to work the usb eruptors just slightly higher at their full 336 which bfgminer didn't want to for me.


I have been communicating with 50Btc also. The gave me this link to read an article about configuring the miners.
http://rdmsnippets.com/2013/05/29/setting-up-asicminer-block-erupters-on-windows-7
It is quite an interesting article. I did lack a USB hub that emits electricity. I have ordered one and it will be here over the weekend or early next week.
With such a small rig, I was thinking of joining a few mining pools. Is this a good idea? I thought it would increase the amount of coins I take in everyday. Will it slow down my computational power and have the opposite effect?
Thank you


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: crudpuppy on September 26, 2013, 11:56:05 PM
You can only mine in 1 pool at a time.  You could do pool hopping(changing pools every so often) but with most pps or other algorithims this wont pay off any for you.


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: r3wt on September 26, 2013, 11:59:05 PM
You can only mine in 1 pool at a time.  You could do pool hopping(changing pools every so often) but with most pps or other algorithims this wont pay off any for you.

not true. this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=295174.0 gives an example of mining btc at the same time as osc, though you could do multiple bitcoin pools as well. probably not a feature for such low hashrate or for inexperienced users, however this tutorial should help the OP get setup with cgminer.


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: crudpuppy on September 27, 2013, 12:24:44 AM
As indicated in that thread this isnt really merged mining as true merged mining on 2 btc pools isn't really possible.  You can on some pools mine say btc and ltc but the usb eruptors and some other devices don't do scrypt.  As pointed out in that thread what is happening is balanced mining meaning a portion of mining power is for each pool.  Again same as I said about pool hopping not going to pay off for him.  Best bet pick a good pool with good ppc and low fee for starting off with ....If you get some real numbers in hashing power then maybe you can do something different.

So yes technically you can mine 2 pools but with 1/2 your full hashing each.  But I took him to be asking about mining 2 pools same time full power since he asked if this would effect his computational power(ie hashing) Which it wont effect it either way just spreeds it around.

Also of note to OP the link you have reference the usb to uart drivers which for newer versions of cgminer aren't needed if you plan on doing bfgminer they are for cgminer you needa use zadig
http://www.wtcr.ca/content/asicminer-usb-erupter-windows-setup-instructions


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: SirMintALot on September 27, 2013, 07:20:40 AM
With a decent hashrate it makes sense to use load balancing to avoid bad luck of a single pool. With only one erupter it makes more sense to join only one of he big pools or to connect to a p2ppool.


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: appleannie on September 29, 2013, 02:51:21 AM
Sounds like you need to install drivers.
http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/Pages/USBtoUARTBridgeVCPDrivers.aspx

I attempted to install these drivers and received a message stating that the software did not find any drivers suitable for my machine. Is there quite possibly another program I can get to bridge these miners? I guess this is my problem. Perhaps, once again I have purchased a machine that is not suitable for mining.

Thank you


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: Beastlymac on September 29, 2013, 03:58:39 AM
Sounds like you need to install drivers.
http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/Pages/USBtoUARTBridgeVCPDrivers.aspx

I attempted to install these drivers and received a message stating that the software did not find any drivers suitable for my machine. Is there quite possibly another program I can get to bridge these miners? I guess this is my problem. Perhaps, once again I have purchased a machine that is not suitable for mining.

Thank you

https://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=support&section=blockerupter


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: Zeek_W on October 01, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Just use the lowest power consuming computer you have. Most of us USB erupter miners use Raspberry Pi's - I had a few already from other projects so cost was nill


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: HellDiverUK on October 01, 2013, 10:35:39 AM
Just use the lowest power consuming computer you have. Most of us USB erupter miners use Raspberry Pi's - I had a few already from other projects so cost was nill

To be fair, he can't get it working on a PC, and you're suggesting he uses a Pi?  You really are putting the cart before the horse with that suggestion.

What you're proposing is like teaching your 3 year old kid to ride a bicycle by putting them on the back of a Honda Fireblade.  He needs the pink bicycle with the training wheels.


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: Beastlymac on October 01, 2013, 12:35:10 PM
Just use the lowest power consuming computer you have. Most of us USB erupter miners use Raspberry Pi's - I had a few already from other projects so cost was nill

To be fair, he can't get it working on a PC, and you're suggesting he uses a Pi?  You really are putting the cart before the horse with that suggestion.

What you're proposing is like teaching your 3 year old kid to ride a bicycle by putting them on the back of a Honda Fireblade.  He needs the pink bicycle with the training wheels.
Raspberry pi with minepeon. Plug in turn on navigate to web page change pool settings mine.
http://abalonegraphics.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/simples.jpg


Title: Re: Do you still need a special computer?
Post by: Zeek_W on October 02, 2013, 12:41:08 PM
Just use the lowest power consuming computer you have. Most of us USB erupter miners use Raspberry Pi's - I had a few already from other projects so cost was nill

To be fair, he can't get it working on a PC, and you're suggesting he uses a Pi?  You really are putting the cart before the horse with that suggestion.

What you're proposing is like teaching your 3 year old kid to ride a bicycle by putting them on the back of a Honda Fireblade.  He needs the pink bicycle with the training wheels.

At least he will be up and running quick :D