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Title: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: kivatbat on February 23, 2018, 06:36:43 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: secondgarlic on February 23, 2018, 06:40:14 PM
You can't earn merits by asking for them anyway. There are also no special threads where you post high quality content and people give you merit for posting there. If you want to earn merit by posting high quality content, just start doing so, you don't need anything else. Hopefully your contributions will be recognized and people will start handing out merit to you.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: mrsamuelmills83 on February 23, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
I have seen sooo many high quality posts around here which deserves at least a few merits, but who gets nothing because no one is sharing. So don't expect it to be easy. But good luck, and hope you make it! :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: harizen on February 23, 2018, 06:44:48 PM

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Take a look here and please take time to read the contents:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2843413.0 - Merit giveaway for Jr Members and newbies

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2971165.0 - Joel_Jantsen's Merit Distribution Thread (Newbies Welcome)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Kildin11 on February 23, 2018, 06:49:41 PM
A strange innovation. How do I get 10 merits, it's still clear, but what's next? 100 merits is generally unrealistic, I keep silent about the next ranks. I'm upset with this


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ParveZ219 on February 23, 2018, 06:52:53 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
The moderators check out all the post daily...If they are eligible for a merit they will give..but without quality posts you cant get merit..and it is not only hard for you but for everyone..So make good quality posts,earn merit,~earn money.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Hirameki on February 23, 2018, 06:54:38 PM
Strange rule about this merit, anyway, it do have aa purpose thats why we have this merit, so we could not level up or ranked up that fast to avoiding also everyone to just ranked up because of spamming. Merits are also for those who did his great job at the campaign.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: GrannyC on February 23, 2018, 07:03:36 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Are you crazy? You only need to get 10 merit to become a member, just 10 or 20 quality posts, that should not prove too difficult if you are here to learn a share.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: squatz1 on February 23, 2018, 07:16:16 PM
While some may see it as too strict if you were to look at all the spam on the boards, by people that were JR members and mostly spamming due to sig campaigns it makes sense to see that they've enacted commonsense rules on the boards in order to weed these people out. This had to happen at some point, as this board was just a spam fest for cash.

We'll see if any changes will come from thymos, maybe at some point if they earn their stuff back.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: brengoskandel on February 23, 2018, 08:06:11 PM
please create new topic in section forum, mining, or meta
you must create constructive posts, provide up-to-date information about the mining world or your complaints about the merit system. the positive or negative side of the merit system.
there will be many account hero and legendary accounts that will give you merit, for your posts.
Please try.
remember! create a new topic that has not been discussed before  :D
Good luck Buddy


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: CryptoBeefy on February 23, 2018, 08:21:31 PM
I see so many good posts not being rewarded with Merit, and although I get the essence of why it's been created, I just don't think it works. Disappointing addition to the forum.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: mahibul49 on February 23, 2018, 08:30:12 PM
i am pretty happy with merit systems.its really difficult for all of us if we cant post great post and eligible answer for any mattyer then how we will get meri points??you need to show your true skill then you will get merit point.just try :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: focmere on February 23, 2018, 08:37:03 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

You and 99% of the forum has this problem. I just hope they will remove this requirement as it's very unnecessary. No one gives merit and no one gets merit..


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Lakai01 on February 23, 2018, 08:37:28 PM
Earning merits is definitly way too hard. I seldomly see posts which get any merit at all. So I think the community itself has to change, we need way more long lasting members on spending sprees to give lower ranks a chance to level up.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: jona on February 23, 2018, 08:51:53 PM
Of a true is  really hard to get a merit,but i  have just decide to work as much as i could and not bother about merit point  the so much,i believe i will be merited if the needs arise.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Martinsciano on February 23, 2018, 08:57:17 PM
This is scaring newbies like me, if junior members are complaining about getting merited i don't know what newbies can do to attain merit as well. One day i'll get there...


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: vfrcbv91 on February 23, 2018, 09:09:32 PM
I, too, believe, that the current system merit not friendly for newcomers. Unfortunately, this is the fault of the users themselves, who have too much FLUD on the forum.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: earl07 on February 23, 2018, 09:18:59 PM
Another thread about merit eh?
Any concern about the system or the forum should be posted to meta not here,this is bitcoin discussion.Since your still new,it's understandable but try to make it proper next time.
Majority of the new members also complains about it(which they shouldn't have),but they have no choice but  to follow the system and for the sake of the forum as well,Besides getting an amount of merit to get to a member rank is not that difficult if they have the perseverance and the eagerness to create and contribute good to the forum.Give time to the new system and to everyone's self a well.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: beskid on February 23, 2018, 09:26:17 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
The moderators check out all the post daily...If they are eligible for a merit they will give..but without quality posts you cant get merit..and it is not only hard for you but for everyone..So make good quality posts,earn merit,~earn money.

I do not think that moderators check posted messages every day!I sent several complaints to the moderators about the violation of the rules of the message and after that nothing happened.That's why they introduced merit, so that we control each other ourselves)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: yomarve on February 23, 2018, 09:39:46 PM
Interestingly this is really an issue one has to be alarmed about. If one is to consider quality in a post, what criteria is used to determine the quality scale of a post. Maybe i will have to visit the thread that talked about merit again.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: 25espia1994 on February 23, 2018, 09:55:08 PM

 i just want to ask what is merit? what is it for? why we all need requirements to have merits?
hopefully you jr members and above can answer this and explain it to the beginners like me.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: sadwage on February 23, 2018, 10:21:01 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

you can earn merit if they see that your post or opinion have a quality or debatable. maybe so you should improve your post.. so they give you merit without asking people to give it to you..


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Jlimao28 on February 23, 2018, 10:26:43 PM
For sure they will not give you merit even you are begging with them. Unless, if they will become your great friends. Merit system is designed for the users here in the forum to have a quality post. If you want to earn merits, don't find them, just make your work and they will find you.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Monkey King on February 23, 2018, 10:28:59 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Difficulty is always be part of ranking up. Theymos wants everyone to be aware of some shitposts so we are going to avoid that through merit system. You should understand that everyone even the higher ranks are having difficulty when it comes to ranking up. So you should do quality posts instead and do not beg for merits because it will be given to you if they think that your posts has its quality.


 i just want to ask what is merit? what is it for? why we all need requirements to have merits?
hopefully you jr members and above can answer this and explain it to the beginners like me.

Merit is like a reward in exchange for your quality posts. We are required to have merits for us to rank up. Higher rank means a higher chance of having a big payout.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: faatipoke on February 23, 2018, 10:30:59 PM
Merit is difficult not only for Junior Members but also Full Members and Senior Members. 10-100 or 250 merit is too difficult to earn. I do not understand the purpose of this. You can think that most people spam messaging to level up, but this is another reward for them to login to the site often. Bitcointalk may disappear in the future if they insist in such terms.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: UsernameBitcoin on February 23, 2018, 10:34:49 PM
Merit requirements are in place so that the quality of posts in the forum increase.

Don't worry too much. Just try to post quality posts and also post in the threads that somebody linked here. Once you post good quality threads you will start getting merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Aileen C. on February 23, 2018, 10:35:43 PM

 i just want to ask what is merit? what is it for? why we all need requirements to have merits?
hopefully you jr members and above can answer this and explain it to the beginners like me.

Merit is a very important requirement for you to become a member in Bitcoin. You will be needing at least 10 merits to become one. In order to have oR gain it, you are going to post high quality and good posts to the topic that you agree with. There are people in the highest position assigned to give merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Ailcab on February 23, 2018, 10:42:19 PM
It is definitely difficult to earn merits, but since it is important and one of the requirements to be a member for junior members like me, I would try and try posting high quality posts just to earn those.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: jinxing on February 23, 2018, 10:45:25 PM
Yes merit requirements are very difficult to participate in signature campaigns. But I am not discouraged and always patient with trying to create quality content on the forum. Selau makes posts that I think are qualified. And keep trying and learning from experienced users. Expand reading will also be very helpful.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: bravehearth0319 on February 23, 2018, 11:20:07 PM
Make a reading a habit and make a quality post so members here in forum will notice your post. 10 merits is very easily to get, better start with a quality posts or visit in your local thread and make a new thread.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: avikz on February 23, 2018, 11:21:53 PM
It's a meta discussion. Please move this thread to the below mentioned section to get proper response and attention.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0

Thanks.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Parodium on February 23, 2018, 11:25:08 PM
You've got some of the lowest quality posts I've ever seen on this forum. I highly doubt you'll be getting any merit any time soon. I've seen people get negged for giving merit to those covertly begging for merit. This post is easily the longest post you've ever written, which clearly shows you're only posting for the bounties, rather than to contribute.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Cryptohad on February 23, 2018, 11:28:14 PM
you can still search for campaigns that accept JR.member like kick city bounty, current, and others.

or also you can follow social media like facebook and tweeters, maybe it will help you a little income.

and to raise your rank, please! make posting quality and also have constructive sentences.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Yakamoto on February 23, 2018, 11:32:31 PM
This will be getting moved shortly but I think the system is relatively good doe what it is supposed to do. Before it was too easy to grind an account up to a specific point and with the addition of the merit system it prevents a ton of people from shitting up the forum with a bunch of low-effort posts and threads which result in the same mundane bullshit being repeated day in and day out.

I'd think that 100 merit is a wee bit high for members but it should be attainable within the expected effort you'd put onto a forum post. Be more useful and valuable as a whole and there will be more merit to slide your way.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: lucas_lewit on February 23, 2018, 11:33:35 PM
One of the purposes of merit is to make participants more appreciate posting other members. Of course with different quality posts.I understand that rank still newbie or jr members will be difficult, but that's is challenge.  ;)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: martin1221 on February 23, 2018, 11:33:50 PM
Merits are for quality post, so lets just make a useful and good quality information mate. 10 merits is not so hard,the harder is when you are in higher rank that requires more merit. I agree with your suggestion mate.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tanjiran on February 23, 2018, 11:36:25 PM

 i just want to ask what is merit? what is it for? why we all need requirements to have merits?
hopefully you jr members and above can answer this and explain it to the beginners like me.
For more information please read here Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0) Read the information carefully. Then try to improve the quality of your post. Merit is pretty easy to get, if you can make a good contribution.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Mystica101 on February 23, 2018, 11:40:50 PM
Its not that easy to received a merits from anyone but prove them that you can get it by posting a quality and constructive post that can benefit to everyone. This is sort of a real job in real world because we won't be able to be promoted if we don't work hard for it so as our positions gets high the salary will increase too same like the merit system here in forum.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Coins_Hiro on February 23, 2018, 11:50:04 PM
We're probably stuck with Jr. Member for long now. I also see posts that are worth a merit but no one is paying attention to share their merits. I'm not mad with the merit system but hopefully the admins will be considerate to have an alternative option for us to have atleast a Member status because some good bounty now requires a member rank to participate.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: chesegrinder on February 23, 2018, 11:52:03 PM
As the new Requirements develop by the forum, it is really a pain. Having a Rank up is very difficult now. You nee activity, post and merit to rank up. those merit system is subjective (IMO) anyone can give a merit to someone, but as i round on the forum few are giving about it. They say you need a quality post that can contribute to the forum. I also see that Joel jantsen are having some merit distribution campaign where he gives merit to newbies for finding an alt. In other hand, this merit system avoid those people who rank up by spamming and maintain the quality post of each members.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shone08 on February 23, 2018, 11:58:17 PM
Day by day I read a topic about this merit system move on guys and make a quality post to received a merit points it not easy to receive merit but this is good to this forum to avoid shitposter and people that creating alt account.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: jonas5222000 on February 24, 2018, 12:11:50 AM
For now the the problem of junior member is the merit,for me its hard to get even your post is good and have quality,sometimes they see it but they didnt give merit.So if  your rank is junior member i could advice that be patient and dont stop.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: flying_bit on February 24, 2018, 12:28:40 AM
everyone here become newbies first before they rank up by working hard and learning the cryptocurrency. You have to earn trust and contribute before you rank up. How can you prove your worth and able to earn good enough of bounties if you don't prove that you're worth it.

-but hey good news there's another way, you can pay the fullmember fee that way you don't need to be newbie and work your ass off to earn merit ;)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Manoharachan on February 24, 2018, 12:44:29 AM
That's one of the problems faced today to increase account rank for every sigcamp user, and we should really make quality posts and wait for someone to give Merit to our post, and that's somewhat silit.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: appleyard on February 24, 2018, 02:27:58 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
I already a member rank and i think gaining a 100 merits is so difficult achieved because of the language barrier   and lack of knowledge about crypto and even constructing a very good post, they are meriting because they know the post its because the post is constructive, have sense, constructive, on topic and good writing.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: micheal wang on February 24, 2018, 02:30:52 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
It's hard to get a merit, let alone to 10 merit, 1 merit I get it with difficulty. But if you have felt the merit get from others people event though 1, I am sure you will not complain. Me myself if making a post or thread is not fixated on merit, because it will be our burden. But I am always free to comment on a post or create a thread as I like, I never be careful when creating a thread or post but not out of post discussion. My little suggestion is, follow the rules but do not burden yourself, let it flow because someday you will get merit with your own way.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on February 24, 2018, 02:32:58 AM
Day by day I read a topic about this merit system move on guys and make a quality post to received a merit points it not easy to receive merit but this is good to this forum to avoid shitposter and people that creating alt account.
Note to shone08:  Rambling, no-punctuation post, by a user with username of the pattern LLLLLNN, using the phrase "day by day" is a sure sign of a shitpost that will never earn merit.  You can disagree or resent my statement, but it's the truth.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: minthit on February 24, 2018, 02:38:24 AM
I can feel you there. It's difficult to get merits no matter how I tried. Maybe my knowledge is limited. Looking forward to get my smerit for this topic. Meanwhile, just try to post quality posts, even though I don't know what qualifies as a quality post. :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: pixie85 on February 24, 2018, 02:40:43 AM
That's one of the problems faced today to increase account rank for every sigcamp user, and we should really make quality posts and wait for someone to give Merit to our post, and that's somewhat silit.

Silit means unnatural in romanian, is that what you wanted to say? You see, that's the problem with non-english speaking people. They use google translate and make it hard for others to understand their posts, which results in lack of merit. Is it unfair? No, it isn't. You chose to come to this English forum and write in the English section and it's your job to make it understandable. If you can't do it there are always local sections.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: sicnarfkswiss on February 24, 2018, 02:45:45 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
I think there were no links for merits, posting quality and reliable post are the way to get merit. Its really hard.. It is also my problem here.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: rockie87 on February 24, 2018, 02:50:27 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
The merit system was introduced to improve the quality of the post which is a great step but there are some flaws in it and people who are in authority needs to look on that.There are many post that has great content but they don't get there merit points as people who can give those points can't look at every post on every thread and Many people don't know how to draw attention of merit source's. Soo my idea is to for every new thread there should be one merit giver or sources should have their own thread and people should post their content there also with the original thread. Soo that the deserving people can get a their merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: taiwww on February 24, 2018, 02:52:01 AM
Earning merit is not that difficult if you really provide quality content to this forum and legends here would appreciate your work here for sure as they are the one who actually engage in reading the stuff.

For this you just have to follow few normal points like : Stay honest while typing the answer and dont bluff. You should not think about the earning money on the forum in the first place as you started your post with bounty campaign and all the stuff. But you can actually start working on the forum by engaging with it, with its content and also with the people here. The more relations you will build here the more appreciation you will receive as you will be gaining the trust from others fro your quality posts and services.  :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: raniadaling on February 24, 2018, 02:56:56 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Yes it is very difficult to rank up due to merit system, but it is the merit system that serves as deterrent to low quality posts making sure quality and meaningful posts are reflected to make community better. So you are right, let us do our best to make quality posts and who knows someone might give us merit for it.
Also there is no link that allows us to tap personalities to provide merits in exchange for something, but, quality posts to earn merits.
So again let's just do our best to make our community better and a successful one. Happy posting you guys


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: CuteBaby123 on February 24, 2018, 02:57:39 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Earning merit to rank up is quite difficult nowadays. Even if you post quality posts, people still keep their merits and doesnt give to those who deserve. However, this is the new policy and rule in bitcointalk forum and we must follow. I still believe that many would still give us merit points in order to rank up. There is no thread to give you merit but you just have to post quality ones.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: rose9696 on February 24, 2018, 02:58:06 AM
I had 11 merit and that was my difficult period. I post post quality posts and ideas for the forum but only a few posts are noticed. Because very few people take the time to consult ideas on a particular subject, getting merit is very difficult. I think the admins should reconsider this issue and come up with a better alternative.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: rollingstorm45 on February 24, 2018, 03:05:03 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

it seems I will also be more difficult, to become Full Member, I have to find 90 merit, and to find 1 merit course, very difficult
hopefully there is a new policy again about this merit


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: btcrut2017 on February 24, 2018, 03:06:16 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
Don't give up merits bro. Just take some time to read and understand why this merit system is being imposed. This is one way of eliminating scammers who post nonsense in this forum. You can earn that merit if you post something that is informative and useful to this forum. Maybe not now but someday you will have it.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: FurDich on February 24, 2018, 03:12:11 AM
Interestingly this is really an issue one has to be alarmed about. If one is to consider quality in a post, what criteria is used to determine the quality scale of a post. Maybe i will have to visit the thread that talked about merit again.
Yes Its very difficult to get merits especially to me but this is the rule and we should obey,Its because they make us for our own good.I hope when I got my stage to rank up as Jr Member there someone who gives me a merit for my constructive post.But I really admire about merit rules so much.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: PX-Z on February 24, 2018, 03:27:33 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

It's not only your problem but it's all our problems instead. It could be difficult for everyone to level up our ranks, specially for those high ranking members. Because they need to earn more merits than newbies and jr. members to be able to rank up.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

You can go to meta section, there are several threads that are sharing of their smerit by just posting what your think is a good quality post enough.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: marydale on February 24, 2018, 03:34:33 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

It may be difficult I agree, but if you can just post something of quality and meaningful with quite an impact to the community then maybe someone will give us merit. I was so very happy that one legendary member managed to notice my post and gave me 1 merit. I thank her for that as it encourages me to post quality messages.
And yes, as been posted by many in this forum, there is no lik to indivduals or members that will provide us with merits, we can only obtain thru meritable posts.

So let us all continue to thrive to post quality and meaningful posts to make our community better and stronger.
Have a nice y'all.



Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: babarian on February 24, 2018, 03:42:50 AM
actually not because your rank is difficult to get merit, merit not know the level or ranking. regardless of its ranking if you can make a quality post then someone else will give merit to you. therefore make a useful post for others so they can give it to you


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: hadveach on February 24, 2018, 03:43:52 AM
yes, of course with the new forum rules, many beginners who find it difficult for earn revenue from the forum, they must work more maximal if you want to go up the rankings, by making a post that is a solution, build, and not spam.

I suggest  you, for beginners better looking for campaign besides the signature, facebook, tweeter, and blog. manager atriz always provides a great allocation for social media.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: dogz12 on February 24, 2018, 03:47:40 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
A lot of low ranked members is in the same predicament as you are. I only need 8 more activities to become a full member but 95 merits is also needed to rank up but the problem is we cannot go around members of this forum to ask and beg for merits. Lets just continue posting high quality post and hopefully others will notice all our efforts.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ashlyvash00 on February 24, 2018, 03:48:08 AM
Yeah this merits system make me insane. I need to rank up order get more token. And i think the only get merits mostly is those bounty manager that they completely the bounty and distribute it will. Even you got good post and great replies they even see or give merits on us. Because the merits is too limited so many high rank reserve it to there friend or any knows people.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on February 24, 2018, 03:55:35 AM
Yeah this merits system make me insane. I need to rank up order get more token. And i think the only get merits mostly is those bounty manager that they completely the bounty and distribute it will. Even you got good post and great replies they even see or give merits on us. Because the merits is too limited so many high rank reserve it to there friend or any knows people.
Sorry for being really blunt, but your English sucks.  It's no surprise that you're not getting merits by posting in the main section here.  I don't know which local board best suits you, but your best bet is to try to impress the folks there--because with your grasp of the language, and with all the competition you face, there's no fucking way you're getting any merit points if you keep going the way you are.
i cant speak english fluently so im worried about my post that im not get in to higher rank.
Give it up.  Look at all the other pajeets who can't speak English, and look closely at how many merits they're receiving for their posts.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Kolly on February 24, 2018, 04:03:47 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
Yes its so hard rightnow to rank up our account because of that merit i wish that they could back to normal again.just like me i cant speak english fluently so im worried about my post that im not get in to higher rank.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Qartersa on February 24, 2018, 04:25:56 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

I understand but the merit system is basically the same for all, not just limited to one particular rank. The only difference, though, is when you have a higher rank, you already obtain a default number of merits. For instance if you are a HERO ranker, you have a default of 500, and anything added to that is already the merits given you through your posts. Mind you, people who have higher ranks did not get this privilege out of thin air. They also worked hard for it by posting quality posts before they get to their ranks today. (Although yes, some only bought their high-ranked accounts. But still, they capitalized on it.)

You should not be too bothered about earning merits and just be focused on contributing quality topics/conversations. Eventually, you will realize that you are indeed getting merits. There are people who give merits, so you just have to be patient.

Since there is no particular page where people are giving merits, I suggest you spread your posts in different topics. That way, you are getting chances of being merited because you scatter/profile chances. But, make sure that you are posting quality posts which are not repetitive.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: mia khalifa on February 24, 2018, 04:40:58 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

yes you are right to get the merit now is very difficult, but for Jr member to the Member it only takes 10 merit you can make a useful post for the citizens in this forum surely you can get the merit. do not be discouraged. i am sure you can make a useful and good post.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: BTCMILLIONAIRE on February 24, 2018, 04:49:23 AM
A strange innovation. How do I get 10 merits, it's still clear, but what's next? 100 merits is generally unrealistic, I keep silent about the next ranks. I'm upset with this
There's nothing unrealistic about gaining 100 merit if you participate in the forum in its intended way.

I've gotten a little under 100 in just two weeks, which is the amount of time it takes to update activity anyways.

And in between member levels you pass through multiple such activity periods.

Alas, you should have enough merit by the time you have enough activity to progress just by making quality posts.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: heureca on February 24, 2018, 04:51:33 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Try to write post that will be interesting and useful for other forum participants. Such posts are always appreciated  :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Amilhussin24 on February 24, 2018, 08:08:01 AM
Yes, merit requirements is very difficult to achieved, but i is better to have it in our forum, because it can help others to have effort in posting a constractive and quality post. Just post in accordance of subject, and maybe somebody will give us a merit. It's a big blessings.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ToxicMind91 on February 24, 2018, 09:06:04 AM
I think you're discussing at the wrong session.
This topic should be placed at Meta session not Bitcoin discussion because this is all about the forum system.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ingemar4949 on February 24, 2018, 09:39:05 AM
Somes say it's too hard, somes say it's impossible and somes say it's very easy, what a variety world!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: maarx on February 24, 2018, 09:58:45 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

I can give you merits if your posts are really quality ones. Take steps to create posts informative and relevant to the threads. Try digging info on varies things to provide quality posts. Spread your posts in all sections. Do not stick onto few threads. This would bring more merits to your account. 10 merits to member is low enough to achieve in a week time.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: krishnaverma on February 24, 2018, 10:40:11 AM
Yeah this merits system make me insane. I need to rank up order get more token. And i think the only get merits mostly is those bounty manager that they completely the bounty and distribute it will. Even you got good post and great replies they even see or give merits on us. Because the merits is too limited so many high rank reserve it to there friend or any knows people.

Do not spread rumors here. I am still a new member here and do not have any friends. I have been showered with merits for my posts from different members. I do not agree that high rank reserve members are hoarding merits for their friends. If anyone tries to abuse merit system, he will sooner of later get caught. Another thing to keep in mind is that, there are merit sources with huge number of merits and I think they are very fair to all members.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Vannie12 on February 24, 2018, 10:52:23 AM
I, too, believe, that the current system merit not friendly for newcomers. Unfortunately, this is the fault of the users themselves, who have too much FLUD on the forum.

Unfortunately yes, it's not but at least it pushes users to pause for a while and think about what they are going to post rather than posting some "yeah I know" kind of words.
Too much account farming and spam threads and posts made by those kind of accounts is one of the main reason merut system was made. And noobsthat are truly new here are suffering the consequences.

That is why some high rank members are helping. Try making good ones and let them scan it in their threads.
It lessens the burden.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: barsharkol12 on February 24, 2018, 11:36:41 AM
many signature campaign bounties are closing for jr members like us. Gaining merit is not easy i have many quality post also but i didnt get merit.  just post informative and useful in this forum. keep on trying and dont be discourage in merit system. goodluck


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: digaran on February 24, 2018, 02:03:11 PM
We don't give a fack.
Earning money by posting in this forum is not your birth right.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: izanagi narukami on February 24, 2018, 02:19:34 PM
If you're join this forum and expect for merit than this forum is no longer same like old time, you can do nothing except ADAPT !

This forum is great and I won't be surprise if more people getting interest to visit the forum from time to time but as for now, it's a bit challenging !


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shalnark on February 24, 2018, 02:39:09 PM
yes, of course with the new forum rules, many beginners who find it difficult for earn revenue from the forum, they must work more maximal if you want to go up the rankings, by making a post that is a solution, build, and not spam.

I suggest  you, for beginners better looking for campaign besides the signature, facebook, tweeter, and blog. manager atriz always provides a great allocation for social media.
This is sort of a real job in real world because we won't be able to be promoted if we don't work hard for it so as our positions gets high the salary will increase too same like the merit system here in forum. I think its not that easy to received a merits from anyone but prove them that you can get it by posting a quality and constructive post that can benefit to everyone.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tranquynhtien on February 24, 2018, 02:47:50 PM
If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.
You should demonstrate your ability to contribute to the forum by writing constructive, helpful, and high quality posts. In my opinion, it's not hard to rank up to Member rank (which is also your next rank). To be ranked up to this rank, you and me need only 10 merits. As you can see, I have got 1 merit after writing 10 posts, so in a word I can say that it is possible task. It's not easy but you can do it.
On the other hand, merits are not the main purpose we are here, right? I am not sure about your main objectives by joining the forum, but I have joined it because it can help me to learn valuable things about crypto-currency and blockchain technology from genuine users.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shata on February 25, 2018, 12:32:33 AM

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Take a look here and please take time to read the contents:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2843413.0 - Merit giveaway for Jr Members and newbies

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2971165.0 - Joel_Jantsen's Merit Distribution Thread (Newbies Welcome)


Actually, this link will help you in ranking up your account. But, Seriously, we should post and comment to the threads in able for us to have merits because the moderator always monitoring us if he/she will give us merit or not. In some other cases, We should try to contact other people on how to get merit faster than the standard one.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tranquynhtien on February 25, 2018, 04:07:29 AM
Actually, this link will help you in ranking up your account. But, Seriously, we should post and comment to the threads in able for us to have merits because the moderator always monitoring us if he/she will give us merit or not. In some other cases, We should try to contact other people on how to get merit faster than the standard one.
This is risky to choose faster methods, which mostly illegal, to get merits. The only way, and safe one for you to rank up with legal merits is to keep contributing to the forum with constructive, high quality, helpful posts. Of course, there are several different ways to do this, including making infographics rather than traditional posts.
To sum up, you should choose the right way to rank up. The promotion process will take time, but it's good too because you also need more time to grow up, to collect more knowledge, more experience, more necessary skills.
Don't greedy and put your account under risk of banning.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: coin5haker on February 25, 2018, 05:20:47 AM
Scoring 10 merits is considered too difficult  ;D How about 100 to get Full member and 250 to rank up to Sr.??? That, according to ur classification is "almost impossible", huh? And to hero member??

It is hard but certainly doable, just 10 merits. Higher ranks could be really discouraged by your post but I hope they're not. I think another 98 merits will take me a couple of years, but I don't care. I wouldn't risk my trust trying to beg for merits or exchange it with another account. I did it once for a courtesy act before I realized it against the rules.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: UFO2018 on February 25, 2018, 06:18:51 AM
Totally agree. I am afraid admin even wont check our constructive post.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: greeklogos on February 25, 2018, 06:33:18 AM
Quality posting and creating of new interesting threads may help you to get those 10 Merits in a moment. 10 is actually not such big challenge, there are a lot of members who's target are much higher than yours, mine, for example is 145 Merits and it is constantly not going haha for now :D


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tricker01 on February 25, 2018, 08:03:50 AM
Quality posting and creating of new interesting threads may help you to get those 10 Merits in a moment. 10 is actually not such big challenge, there are a lot of members who's target are much higher than yours, mine, for example is 145 Merits and it is constantly not going haha for now :D
Actually even how good quality of post you have if you are not famous or knowing by the other people in bitcointalk community you can't get merits. If you notice all of us have a point in terms explaining our side. But almost all of them can't appreciate our post. In Jr. Member how hard to earn 10 merits compared to Full Member and other higher ranks. I was already Full member but due to merit I was not ranked up but it's okay maybe I was not enough knowledge to ranked up.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Thirio on February 25, 2018, 08:41:37 AM
Quality posting and creating of new interesting threads may help you to get those 10 Merits in a moment. 10 is actually not such big challenge, there are a lot of members who's target are much higher than yours, mine, for example is 145 Merits and it is constantly not going haha for now :D
Actually even how good quality of post you have if you are not famous or knowing by the other people in bitcointalk community you can't get merits. If you notice all of us have a point in terms explaining our side. But almost all of them can't appreciate our post. In Jr. Member how hard to earn 10 merits compared to Full Member and other higher ranks. I was already Full member but due to merit I was not ranked up but it's okay maybe I was not enough knowledge to ranked up.
it's not that you CAN'T and it's not like the famous one's got their popularity as soon as they register in the forum. They got it through the time and contribution they have made for bitcointalk. You even got 10 merits after its implementation, does it mean you're famous? no. It just mean that someone recognized your contribution in the forum, and that's how it is for everyone else.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: yamortsac on February 25, 2018, 09:58:03 AM
It is really difficult to get merit not only for jr. member but also to everyone here because even there were a lot of quality posts, they were not merited maybe because the post was not recognized or read by users since there a lot of other posts in the forum. I think the best that we can do is to try very hard to make a quality post that can be recognized by many readers or users.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: FlightyPouch on February 25, 2018, 10:44:44 AM
It is really difficult to get merit not only for jr. member but also to everyone here because even there were a lot of quality posts, they were not merited maybe because the post was not recognized or read by users since there a lot of other posts in the forum. I think the best that we can do is to try very hard to make a quality post that can be recognized by many readers or users.


I think I know the threads that you are talking about since most of them are mega threads in the Bitcoin Discussion and Economics Section. A lot of posts there are not being read by the members since most of them are not really a good posts and already being said by the recent posts. I think if you will be posting there every now and then, be sure not to post on what the campaign managers call "megathreads". There is a lot of other sections here you can post where you can gain merit.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: sheenshane on February 25, 2018, 11:11:48 AM
It is really difficult to get merit not only for jr. member but also to everyone here because even there were a lot of quality posts, they were not merited maybe because the post was not recognized or read by users since there a lot of other posts in the forum. I think the best that we can do is to try very hard to make a quality post that can be recognized by many readers or users.
I think I know the threads that you are talking about since most of them are mega threads in the Bitcoin Discussion and Economics Section. A lot of posts there are not being read by the members since most of them are not really a good posts and already being said by the recent posts. I think if you will be posting there every now and then, be sure not to post on what the campaign managers call "megathreads". There is a lot of other sections here you can post where you can gain merit.

Some users here they mostly repeated to post at that section "Bitcoin dicussion, Trading discussion and Economics section", try to explore other section so that you better know about here in forum and to have make a quality post and gain smerit. Hopefully those higher ranks members here please help these lower ranks member in order to rank up not by meriting to the account that you already know or those close to you. Legendary and Heroe members please help them so that they got rank up even full member or to member for those deserving that have a quality post.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tranquynhtien on February 25, 2018, 11:21:31 AM
Totally agree. I am afraid admin even wont check our constructive post.
Actually, it is not screened by admin, but by other users, motsly by higher-qualitied users who has more experience in the forum, knowledgeable enough to judge which posts are high-quality, constructive and deserved to earn merits.
Your task is keep composing as good posts as you can. That's it. Merits will come sometimes when you don't care about that at all.

Keep working and good luck.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: di.ako.toh on February 25, 2018, 03:29:48 PM
I think majority of us really thinks that merit requiremnt is too difficult for us to rank our positions. But if we are striving to contribute our knowledge with best efforts in sharing quality posts, there should be no worries, because somehow we could inspire others for them to give us merits through our good quality posts.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: SlickTight on February 25, 2018, 03:55:35 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Yes, it is so hard to rank up now to Member ranked, because you need a valuable post, or make sense to this forum. You need a lot of effort to gain merit and it is true that you cannot earn merit by just asking them but your post is just like a poor post. Goodluck to everyone also Member ranked like me is so difficult to get to Full Member ranked.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: criz2fer on February 25, 2018, 10:38:24 PM
Scoring 10 merits is considered too difficult  ;D How about 100 to get Full member and 250 to rank up to Sr.??? That, according to ur classification is "almost impossible", huh? And to hero member??

It is hard but certainly doable, just 10 merits. Higher ranks could be really discouraged by your post but I hope they're not. I think another 98 merits will take me a couple of years, but I don't care. I wouldn't risk my trust trying to beg for merits or exchange it with another account. I did it once for a courtesy act before I realized it against the rules.

Begging  merit are against the rules but not too excessive as per theymos rule and I think it is possible depending on the proper agreement of both members without breaking the rules.
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Do not beg for merit excessively.



Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: cmmhbct on February 26, 2018, 02:30:19 AM
Begging  merit are against the rules but not too excessive as per theymos rule and I think it is possible depending on the proper agreement of both members without breaking the rules.
Begging for merits will put beggers under extremely high risks of tagging, reporting by other users and/ or moderators, then their accounts might be banned (temporarily or permanently depends on level of abusement).

If users (newcomers in particular) want to get merits legally, they should stay tuned, eagerly to learn, keep improving daily, then they will get want you want in the future. I am not sure how long till the day they get first merit point, but it will come for sure.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tingcq9 on February 26, 2018, 04:38:01 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
Very sorry, there will be more and more reward jr can not participate in the future, this unfair phenomenon is expanding.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on February 26, 2018, 04:45:32 AM
many signature campaign bounties are closing for jr members like us. Gaining merit is not easy i have many quality post also but i didnt get merit.  just post informative and useful in this forum. keep on trying and dont be discourage in merit system. goodluck
The only thing you post are bloated dissertations on how great bitcoin is and how we need knowledge and hardwork to acheeve our goals and we can do trading to earn higher profit and sell when bitcoin is high....does that all sound familiar?  You post the same uninteresting, poorly-written shit as every other person in your dirt road village. 

None of your posts stand out in the mega spam threads you post in, so what do you expect? 

The only way you're ever going to get enough merit to rank up is if you suck off the right merit source, and I'm sure the line for that one extends around the block.  It's members like you that I'm waiting for to give up the futile effort and just go away. 

You are not wanted.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: rhamzter on February 26, 2018, 10:21:16 AM
many signature campaign bounties are closing for jr members like us. Gaining merit is not easy i have many quality post also but i didnt get merit.  just post informative and useful in this forum. keep on trying and dont be discourage in merit system. goodluck
The only thing you post are bloated dissertations on how great bitcoin is and how we need knowledge and hardwork to acheeve our goals and we can do trading to earn higher profit and sell when bitcoin is high....does that all sound familiar?  You post the same uninteresting, poorly-written shit as every other person in your dirt road village. 

None of your posts stand out in the mega spam threads you post in, so what do you expect? 

The only way you're ever going to get enough merit to rank up is if you suck off the right merit source, and I'm sure the line for that one extends around the block.  It's members like you that I'm waiting for to give up the futile effort and just go away. 

You are not wanted.
Your posts are good enough as a Jr.member, so don't lose hope and continue what are you doing. Maybe your some posts was not yet counted to the tastes of some users but that is not means that no one can appreciate your posts.

I suggest to explore more and be confident to the quality of your posts you've been made. Aside on that try to review some articles that given you a lot of idea regarding with the bitcoin and other crypto currencies. Don't beg for some smerits because at the right time it is coming to you.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: btcprospecter on February 26, 2018, 10:56:50 AM
There does seem to be a fine between what posts should get merit and those that don't I have seen many merit given to smart ass comments than posts that actually have body and do add positively to the forums.
Unfortunately you guys are going to find it a struggle and hopefully you can get merit, where it is deserved. Then when you have smerit you give that where you think it is deserved.
I don't expect lower ranks to write full dissertations about crypto currencies. In my view if a post is considered constructive and not flat out spam then merit should be awarded.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Silvermist on February 26, 2018, 01:30:28 PM
Actually earning merit points is kinda hard especially for beginners. It really requires them double effort to learn more, for them to come a good quality post and have merit points. But in some way, it teaches everyone to love and understand fully with the heart the whole cyptocurrency, so even a beginners can know a lot and used for the new merit system.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Lorna t on February 26, 2018, 04:13:00 PM
 :) :) I believe that a current merit system will jot be able yo attack new comers unfortunately it has a fault with the users them selve who have too much glud fovthe forum and then there are other threads about merit there are many more concern about a system or a forum should be posted on meta not here and this is a bitcoin discussion then you still have been familiar with but need to try to do a proper next time this the new  member and complained about it for all there is no choice really.should be follow on a system and for a forum sake as well and before all get amount of merit to get as menbim rank I will not find it difficult to all have a perseverance and wagerness to create and contributed well into the forum provide time in new system and each of them should be in good standing .


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Pancheng on February 26, 2018, 04:24:15 PM
Nothing good will happen to you if you post this kind of thread that encourage others to post quality post and earn merits from other people, 80%of readers will just poke you and discouraged you! I wish there is a free page where in we can just say good luck! But I'll just do that in Twitter. Anyway good luck earning merits from others, expect to earn ten merits in six month!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: seven2smoke1 on February 26, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
Merit requirements are too difficult for people who posts useless content, It's not about ranks. Whether you are newbie or legendry, if you deserve some merit point, you will get it, even if you feel that your post seems to be a high quality and you didn't get yet any merit point on it, there is some member that can review your post and award you some of them.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Jet Cash on February 26, 2018, 04:39:42 PM
I think Theymos was quite smart in setting the merit levels that he did. A new member doesn't need merit to rank up for at least 10 weeks, and that should give him time to learn about the Bitcoin economy, and the operation of the Bitcoin Talk forum, if he is serious about acquiring knowledge about Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: AltheaHeart14 on February 26, 2018, 10:54:08 PM
If you're join this forum and expect for merit than this forum is no longer same like old time, you can do nothing except ADAPT !

This forum is great and I won't be surprise if more people getting interest to visit the forum from time to time but as for now, it's a bit challenging !


Yes, Bitcoin is a bit challenging right now because of merit system, yes it is not like before in signature campaign that you just need to be active from time to time and you just need to reply to a forum so your account will rank up. Now in merit system you need to post a quality a high quality rather, so your account will rank up, but still if your post was really a great and quality how many bitcoin user will propably notice it? Or if they able to notice it you will have low percentage of recieving merot from them and i think that is one of dis advantage of merit system. I am not againts the merit system because it really improved the quality, but it really defficult for those new here in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: cabalism13 on February 26, 2018, 11:05:22 PM
Here is my post regarding to your problem. I hope you find it helpful mate. There are some links for you to get some Meris there.

And kindly spread this for the sake of the other fellow newbies.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3021637.0


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: NavI_027 on February 26, 2018, 11:55:56 PM
Imagine, if you are now already struggling to become a Member then how much more when you are aiming to become a Senior Member like me. But don't feel discouraged, take it as a challenge and use it for motivating yourself to make better posts. :)

Stop asking for merits because there's no assurance that you will received one. Just continue making quality posts and hope that it will be noticed by others but you could also try to push your luck on the Services where others offer free post reviews. :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Boybugwal760820 on February 28, 2018, 02:22:18 AM
Merit requirements too difficult not just to JR. Members but also to other members who want to be promoted also, I really felt sad and discouraged about this MERIT REQUIREMENTS that they are imposing in this forum because all LOW RANKING MEMBERS like us will never have the opportunity to promoted a higher rank anymore because who do you think will spend their time reading our posts and then giving us a MERIT? everybody in this forum are busy doing their own thing so having a MERIT is next to impossible thing. This is just a big discrimination for low ranking members which denies them the opportunity to be promoted.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: GDragon on February 28, 2018, 03:00:24 AM
That is true, some of people here said that we are late comer because of this system but we can do it as an motivation to learn more and improve our self. Let`s start our journey and achieve our goal together not for our self only but for the bitcoin community. Have a better future for us!!!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: goigiacmove on February 28, 2018, 03:28:03 AM
Merit requirements too difficult not just to JR. Members but also to other members who want to be promoted also, I really felt sad and discouraged about this MERIT REQUIREMENTS that they are imposing in this forum because all LOW RANKING MEMBERS like us will never have the opportunity to promoted a higher rank anymore because who do you think will spend their time reading our posts and then giving us a MERIT? everybody in this forum are busy doing their own thing so having a MERIT is next to impossible thing. This is just a big discrimination for low ranking members which denies them the opportunity to be promoted.

Looking at your post history, I think you have tried writing constructive, high-quality threads in order to receive merits, but you didn't get them.
In my opinion, your problem maybe you didn't put creative ideas into your recent posts.

Creativity is one of the most interesting factors that can catch attention of higher-ranked users, who are readily to send you merits if they think your threads deserved.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: popomaru on March 01, 2018, 02:49:44 AM
I think so too, it is too difficult.
I have done translation work and SCAM warnings, etc but I have never gotten it.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Mind Control on March 01, 2018, 04:00:15 AM
I find it funny when I suddenly bumped into this thread. To think that I proposed the required Merit to become member be increased (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3027369.0) to 25 Merits  :D


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on March 01, 2018, 04:07:18 AM
who are readily to send you merits if they think your threads deserved.
You idiots just don't realize how shitty your English is.  That's the main reason you're not getting merit. 

If a fluent speaker such as myself finds your posts to be meritless, what do you think the rest of the pajeets (if they even read your posts) are going to think?  They're giving all their merit points to alt accounts and friends anyway--which will earn those fuckers red trust, and it's much deserved. 

Yeah. This is gonna work out just fine.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tranthidung on March 01, 2018, 06:46:31 AM
who are readily to send you merits if they think your threads deserved.
You idiots just don't realize how shitty your English is.  That's the main reason you're not getting merit.  

If a fluent speaker such as myself finds your posts to be meritless, what do you think the rest of the pajeets (if they even read your posts) are going to think?  They're giving all their merit points to alt accounts and friends anyway--which will earn those fuckers red trust, and it's much deserved.  

Yeah. This is gonna work out just fine.
Simply give merit abusers red trust. I think they should be banned (temporary, then permanent). It's hard to imagine the cases of merit exchanging from main accounts to alt-accounts, then return exchanging from alt-accounts to main-accounts, again and again.
For example:
Main account have 100 sMerits to send to one alt-account, then the alt get 50 sMerits to send back to main one, which will get more sMerits to send. Next round, main account send 50 sMerits to alt-acc, and so on like this:
Main account            Alt account
100                         0
100                         50
50                           25
25                           12
12                           6
6                             3
3                             1
And finally, over many rounds, main accounts will have 50+25+12+6+3 = 96 more Merit points
Alt-account will have 50+25+12+6+3+1 = 97 more Merits points.

In total the guy will get 193 more Merits points. It's terrible abusement.

I think those ones try abusing merit system should be banned.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: krishnaverma on March 01, 2018, 05:38:33 PM
I, too, believe, that the current system merit not friendly for newcomers. Unfortunately, this is the fault of the users themselves, who have too much FLUD on the forum.

Not friendly for newcomers ? I really think with the current merit system, it is easier for newbies to rank up. They just need 10 merit points for this. This can be achieved with a single thread posting some unique and useful content like stats related to members or an infographic. For the senior members, who now need 100 merit points or above to rank up, this is little hard to achieve. I also believe that merit sources will try to encourage new members more in comparison to the old members by giving merit points.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Motookerva on March 01, 2018, 07:12:04 PM
That sounds weird but there is still some bounty programs for even the newbies. you just have to search them


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: afanase on March 01, 2018, 08:29:20 PM
I think so too, it is too difficult.
I have done translation work and SCAM warnings, etc but I have never gotten it.
You need to rethink and try to focus on sections getting good number of merits. One such section is this meta section itself. But do not think that just adding 20-30 pots here everyday will give you merits. First learn about the different forum rules using the past threads. Also, go through the responses of senior members to questions asked in official thread. Give more time to this aspect and less to making posts here. Very soon, you will stat writing helpful posts and attract lot of merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on March 01, 2018, 08:44:43 PM
That sounds weird but there is still some bounty programs for even the newbies. you just have to search them
Yeah, and that's why Bitcoin Discussion is a spam-infested section.  The noobs who can't write anything coherent in English are all posting the same generic "bitcoin change our life because it is a decentralized crypto currency and we get big profit..." shitposts, reassembled countless times in countless permutations.   But it's all crap. 

Please don't suggest that these people start infecting Meta in order to earn merit points, because that's not going to happen.   

A shitpost is a shitpost, and it doesn't matter what section it's in. Meta is one of the more interesting areas of bitcointalk, and it would be a shame if it got corrupted by the moron mob.  The whole reason they never posted here in the first place is that they don't care about forum issues--and they still don't, unless the issue is the missing merits which are retarding their progress.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Sasuke102001 on March 01, 2018, 08:55:33 PM
Look you won't get merits just by asking and begging people to merit your posts you have to earn those merits by making some eye-catching posts and maybe then people would definitely merit your posts, that is what the idea was but the thing is many people are complaining about still not receiving merits by anyone. you are having problems reaching Member, I need way too many merits to become a senior member. The real problem would be starting from Member to Full Member.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on March 03, 2018, 04:22:46 AM
Yes I really agree that MERIT requirements makes the life of all the low ranking members of this forum very difficult and it is a big DISCRIMINATION
Cry me a river, bud.  If it weren't for all the users with noob accounts (and all the alt accounts) shitposting nonstop, we wouldn't be in this mess.  I've seen some high-ranked members making lousy posts, but it has been--by far--the lower-ranking ones who've been responsible for all the spam. 

You're being discriminated against because you're required to post things that people will give merits to?  Because you're required to make an effort in order to rank up, and to be patient?  Give me a break.  You don't know what discrimination is, dude.  Get a box of Kleenex and go cry to the rest of the shitposters on telegram. 


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: impatientyoutubeJ on March 03, 2018, 05:44:10 AM
Bounty programmes is not for jr members buut you can have trade in same flank to keep earning cash :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: coiner27 on March 03, 2018, 05:54:21 AM
I'm really having hard time posting quality posts since I'm new and don't know about cryptocurrency that much.. I guess we have to read and read more about it so we can create a good quality post. Maybe thats the first investment I can make, the knowledge about cryptocurrency and how it works. And the help of our fellow senior member in terms of replying and commenting on topics that we lack of knowledge. Hoping I can make quality posts that will merit soon!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: jerry29@ on March 03, 2018, 06:02:21 AM
This is a problem associated with everyone.
So try to explore more in the forum learn more and more. And share your experience with everyone .This could be the legitimate way to earn merits quickly.
All the best


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shushanika on March 03, 2018, 06:10:25 AM
That sounds weird but there is still some bounty programs for even the newbies. you just have to search them

There may be some programs for newbies but still all members will want to progress to higher levels. Since, use of multiple accounts is being discouraged here, every member is trying to achieve the highest level with the main profile. For higher ranks, there is more pay per week in the signature campaign.

Again there are some members here who are not interested in signature campaign and are to trade or promote their own products or services. Such people also need a profile with rank so as to appear as an authority figure.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: yomarve on March 03, 2018, 08:49:57 AM
This merit issue does affect the ranking up of Jr Members to Member status but then if you consider some post which doesn't make sense and people creating multiple accounts just to get my returns from bounties. It's storage consuming as well as making the forum filled with unnecessary things.

It's a good thing even though it affects me too.
Laws are made not to punish but to promote sanity.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: darklus123 on March 03, 2018, 09:06:58 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)


You have already said that you are giving too much effort. That is basically just the start. Yes given the fact that you efforted alot yet haven't recognized yet, why is that so btw?

Simple lets go on to other rules. If you helped someone get the information that they needed you might receive one. The other thing is that if you have provided a very informative post with regards to the topic then you might as well to receive one. Lastly for me is the choice of topic and timing.

Timing and the chosen topic is very crucial. You have to understand that you are dealing with other people and it really needs to be a real conversion between you and the prospect. If you are posting good information on a bloated or on a spam topics in which there is absolutely no real conversion then that could be a useless posts in the end. Then if you are posting good posts to those topics that has a real conversion yet the timing is bad because they actually don't need it or it was already posted before then again it is useless.

You have to strategize. I believe that a jr.member account or below could really learn alot from this merit system. I think it could somewhat solve the spamming issue if not abused by everyone.

Regards,


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: DevilCredit on March 03, 2018, 09:39:09 AM
for the Jr. member according to the course in order to become a member is not too difficult. that will be difficult is if the member wants to go up to the full member because it requires 100 merits, sum it up very much and could not quickly obtain.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: romanovst on March 03, 2018, 02:08:38 PM
I'm really having hard time posting quality posts since I'm new and don't know about cryptocurrency that much.. I guess we have to read and read more about it so we can create a good quality post. Maybe thats the first investment I can make, the knowledge about cryptocurrency and how it works. And the help of our fellow senior member in terms of replying and commenting on topics that we lack of knowledge. Hoping I can make quality posts that will merit soon!

That is the point most of the members are missing here I guess. It is more like sharpening your tool before cutting wood which increases your efficiency. If a member has failed to get a  merit point even after making 40-50 points, he needs to understand that there is some issue with his posts. There can be two problems only- either the writing skills are not good or his posts are not informative. Judging this post that I quoted, your writing skills are fine. You should work on increasing knowledge about bitcoins so as to make more meaningful replies.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: NITCoinOfficial on March 03, 2018, 07:07:47 PM
I have read a lot about the guidelines for posting, however it seems to me that the "quality" issue is rather subjective, than objective.  It is still a matter of a personal opinion of those who give out merit, rather than the principal of "fair for all". I mean, I have seen TMAN refuse someone merit just for the way someone called him "Sir". It is not what merit is supposed to be about, in my opinion. I believe discrimination is a world-wide problem nowadays, it is sad to see it here as well. I do hope that something will be done to achieve the "fair for all" status in this forum.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: TMAN on March 03, 2018, 07:29:11 PM
I have read a lot about the guidelines for posting, however it seems to me that the "quality" issue is rather subjective, than objective.  It is still a matter of a personal opinion of those who give out merit, rather than the principal of "fair for all". I mean, I have seen TMAN refuse someone merit just for the way someone called him "Sir". It is not what merit is supposed to be about, in my opinion. I believe discrimination is a world-wide problem nowadays, it is sad to see it here as well. I do hope that something will be done to achieve the "fair for all" status in this forum.

English language forum.. Sir is a pajeet greeting


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: fredo123 on March 04, 2018, 01:49:37 AM
Yes, it was too difficult to rank up, but lets do try our very best and catch the attention of the readers to obtain merits, In my part as a full member, I have long way to come up with senior member, I don't know yet if i could go beyond senior member because it seems very challenging to earn merits. But no matter what, i will continue to go on to fulfill all my needs, :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 04, 2018, 02:50:15 AM
-theOP contents-
Hi guy,

I have read your last posts, most of them are totally shitty post (one-line threads). There are two threads looks longer, but contain same content at different topics (threads from copy & paste, certainly).
This one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3006322.msg30922069#msg30922069
And this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg30913853#msg30913853
What do you think if one of your last threads received merits from someone in the forum?
Something like "Wow, finally I succeed with my spamming tactics, and got merits. Now, keep doing this then more merits will come."
For me, it is terrible scenario for the forum, generally.

So please stop spamming, and try to improve your posts' quality, then you will get merits sometimes when your general posts' quality reach to acceptable level.  ;)

I also show you some interesting topics in my collection:

1) 14 merits bonuses for quality users (Jr. to Sr. Mem) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3046992.0)
2) TMANís level up challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2825523.0)
3) sMerits for arts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2957836.0)
4) Point me to undermerited posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3040494.0)
5) Joe Jaltsenís merit distribution thread (Newbies Welcome) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2971165.0)
6) Earn $ and merit BTCforJoe (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055616.0)
7) I still got 80 smerits to give away (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2855783.0)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: jemarleon on March 04, 2018, 03:17:35 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
There's still many bounty program that  accepting Jr. members for signature campaign, and it is not really that hard to get 10 merits if you contribute a lot in this forum. It is harder to get 90 more merits to be a Full member and 150 more to be Sr. Member and so on.
Merit system is VERY GOOD to this forum to stop spamming account and useless/out of the world response to a particular post.

In addition ill give this link to you for us to challenge our selves to make post in-line with the topic and useful post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3046992.0


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: yillusion on March 04, 2018, 03:26:42 AM
this rule is surely good for those who are already high ranks, and they welcome the rules for there will be less user to participate in the bounty to share the stakes, but i also see many hero and legendary members post shit posts, i just wonder if they can get any merits in the following times, the rule is unfair indeed!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Flying Hellfish on March 04, 2018, 04:06:29 AM
I have read a lot about the guidelines for posting, however it seems to me that the "quality" issue is rather subjective, than objective.  It is still a matter of a personal opinion of those who give out merit, rather than the principal of "fair for all". I mean, I have seen TMAN refuse someone merit just for the way someone called him "Sir". It is not what merit is supposed to be about, in my opinion. I believe discrimination is a world-wide problem nowadays, it is sad to see it here as well. I do hope that something will be done to achieve the "fair for all" status in this forum.

English language forum.. Sir is a pajeet greeting

Excuse sir i am wish reviw your mine posting is posting for good quality please sir i learnt for her many great thangs after merit sir is airdrop for join


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 04, 2018, 04:22:22 AM
this rule is surely good for those who are already high ranks, and they welcome the rules for there will be less user to participate in the bounty to share the stakes, but i also see many hero and legendary members post shit posts, i just wonder if they can get any merits in the following times, the rule is unfair indeed!

This new system is not only for the good of the high rank members but also for the good of the whole forum. It is obvious that the high ranks will always be the one that will be receiving the merits since they are worthy and they are member of the forum for years now so you don't need to complain, they are knowledgeable and experienced (not all of them).

Instead of complaining, why not focus on posting some constructive ones and while you're at it try to improve your English grammar.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shahzadafzal on March 04, 2018, 04:40:20 AM
When you give a charge to people.....  things get messy then bad and then worst..... [That's why we have law, law prevents misuse of power]

Auto Pilot is the best... let the system decide.

Here are reason why this merit System won't work it will work for like money richer will become richer and poor will stay poor

1. Since you are Newbie/Jr. Member your post will be ignored like your tweets
2. No body values your discussions after all you are just Jr. Member!!
3. No body listens to Newbie or Jr. Member here too, you feel like home
4. All Newbies are by-default considered ICO hunters running after free Crypto and airdrops
5. Hero and Legendary are like teachers here, they rarely starts a valuable discussion but dictating and commenting on Full Member and Sr. Members  

Trust me I'm not making things up, i read this from Legendary member he clearly said. "New members, Newbies, Jr Members and Members donít need any merit. They donít have enough post history to judge so I wonít be helping them."
Wow and that's our Legend!!!! Sorry for thiis

I strongly believe Merit system should only start once you become Sr. Member -> Hero -> Legendary
At least let system decide who reaches Sr. Member Activity + Post are fair enough criteria

Then you gave Merit in hands of people oh great you think they are fair... Trust me I'm not pointing to you... but if you take the average its purely based on personal likeness. May be what you think is a trash or deserves a negative merit... deserves a huge credit to me... something i like may be you won't even worth it considering. So how come this merit system is working?

Who's checking for the posts which deserves a merit but no body giving them. So it went ignored because it wasn't in you watch list. That's a law and we are missing it.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shahzadafzal on March 04, 2018, 04:43:04 AM
this rule is surely good for those who are already high ranks, and they welcome the rules for there will be less user to participate in the bounty to share the stakes, but i also see many hero and legendary members post shit posts, i just wonder if they can get any merits in the following times, the rule is unfair indeed!

This new system is not only for the good of the high rank members but also for the good of the whole forum. It is obvious that the high ranks will always be the one that will be receiving the merits since they are worthy and they are member of the forum for years now so you don't need to complain, they are knowledgeable and experienced (not all of them).

Instead of complaining, why not focus on posting some constructive ones and while you're at it try to improve your English grammar.
And we think they will give a merit to a Newbie, Jr. Member or to Member... keep dreaming guys....


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Gusbaaa on March 04, 2018, 05:45:51 AM
I'm sure you will not complain. I myself if making a post or thread is not fixated on services, because it will be our burden. But I am always free to comment on a post or create a thread that I like, I never be careful when creating a thread or post but not out of post discussion. My small suggestion is, follow the rules but do not burden yourself, let it flow because someday you will benefit in your own way.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: galkina on March 04, 2018, 06:45:17 AM
Here are reason why this merit System won't work it will work for like money richer will become richer and poor will stay poor

1. Since you are Newbie/Jr. Member your post will be ignored like your tweets
2. No body values your discussions after all you are just Jr. Member!!
3. No body listens to Newbie or Jr. Member here too, you feel like home
4. All Newbies are by-default considered ICO hunters running after free Crypto and airdrops
5. Hero and Legendary are like teachers here, they rarely starts a valuable discussion but dictating and commenting on Full Member and Sr. Members  

1. As a newbie or Jr Member, I had seen new members encouraging me. I think that merit sources give more preference to lower ranked members while awarding merits.

2. Personally, I read the content first, I do not check the rank or post count before reading the post.

3. All threads made by newbies gets the same number of responses like the one made by senior numbers.

4. That is true to some extent although I do not like labeling any rank.

5. You can use ignore option for any user if you believe that he is not making useful posts here.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: alttry2019 on March 04, 2018, 07:24:56 AM
Instead of complaining, let us publish good post together. This is the best way of becoming a member.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shahzadafzal on March 04, 2018, 08:44:00 AM
~ "New members, Newbies, Jr Members and Members donít need any merit. They donít have enough post history to judge so I wonít be helping them."
Wow and that's our Legend!!!!
~
You probably will not get any more merit or very little if you keep doing those effects (including bolding, highlighting, italicizing, etc. ). Overusing those effects will make your threads somewhat harder to read and make readers feel uncomfortable with your threads.
I recommend you to be careful before using them, and don't overuse!

Ahh sorry i accept my mistake. Edited my post


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: FlightyPouch on March 04, 2018, 07:43:36 PM
this rule is surely good for those who are already high ranks, and they welcome the rules for there will be less user to participate in the bounty to share the stakes, but i also see many hero and legendary members post shit posts, i just wonder if they can get any merits in the following times, the rule is unfair indeed!

This new system is not only for the good of the high rank members but also for the good of the whole forum. It is obvious that the high ranks will always be the one that will be receiving the merits since they are worthy and they are member of the forum for years now so you don't need to complain, they are knowledgeable and experienced (not all of them).

Instead of complaining, why not focus on posting some constructive ones and while you're at it try to improve your English grammar.
And we think they will give a merit to a Newbie, Jr. Member or to Member... keep dreaming guys....

This depends on what does these Newbies and Jr. Members know. I give merit to some posts that I know worthy of that merit despite of their ranks. If you will be checking my merit history, you will be seeing some Jr. Members there.

Not all of the high rank members just give merit to someone since that member is a high rank, they all have their own basis of quality posts and shit posts.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: redshiftexpensive on March 05, 2018, 03:23:42 AM
This new shit of rules was recently included and making the life of newbies a hell :(


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 05, 2018, 03:43:00 AM
This new shit of rules was recently included and making the life of newbies a hell :(
Yep, you will certainly be stucked at Junior Member rank forever if you keep having such negative, shitty attitude about merit system, its mechanism, and rules of new ranking system of the forum.
Good luck for being stucked in the hell.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: belyaevi on March 05, 2018, 07:00:36 AM
This new shit of rules was recently included and making the life of newbies a hell :(

Can I ask you why ? What you will do with the merits ? You do not even need a merit to move to the next rank (Junior member).

Here is why most of the newbies are failing to get merit:

1) They do not have much knowledge about the forum rules and are thus not able to make constructive replies here. Who will merit such posts ? I mean I have seen some of them applying in signature campaigns which are accepting members and above. They never care to read the rules and later they will complaint that the forum is partial as they are not accepted.

2) I have seen that some are not having the correct attitude as well. This is more harmful than point no 1 as it affects learning process.



Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: RYXES on March 05, 2018, 11:21:30 AM
A lot of moaning and lack of pro active posting.

The whole point is to promote and improve the CC world not hinder or slag it off.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: DaftAjax on March 06, 2018, 01:23:42 AM
I've been reading page by page (since its only few) and most of the people replied to this thread don't really notice other people's information. To think that it is quite informative. Something like this:

Simply give merit abusers red trust. I think they should be banned (temporary, then permanent). It's hard to imagine the cases of merit exchanging from main accounts to alt-accounts, then return exchanging from alt-accounts to main-accounts, again and again.
For example:
Main account have 100 sMerits to send to one alt-account, then the alt get 50 sMerits to send back to main one, which will get more sMerits to send. Next round, main account send 50 sMerits to alt-acc, and so on like this:
Main account            Alt account
100                         0
100                         50
50                           25
25                           12
12                           6
6                             3
3                             1
And finally, over many rounds, main accounts will have 50+25+12+6+3 = 96 more Merit points
Alt-account will have 50+25+12+6+3+1 = 97 more Merits points.

In total the guy will get 193 more Merits points. It's terrible abusement. - Abusement is not a word mate


I know it's not my place to say but on the following statements and links below, from what I see it, its either begging or a charity. But if you know that you yourself have quality posts that no one really reviews them, then those links would help you earn Merits. I'm not saying that it is the only way but its a start.

This forum is huge, and no member can monitor each and every other member just to review their posts, and to consider whether it deserves Merit or not.

Anyway here it is:

Take a look here and please take time to read the contents:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2843413.0 - Merit giveaway for Jr Members and newbies

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2971165.0 - Joel_Jantsen's Merit Distribution Thread (Newbies Welcome)

I also show you some interesting topics in my collection:

1) 14 merits bonuses for quality users (Jr. to Sr. Mem) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3046992.0)
2) TMANís level up challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2825523.0)
3) sMerits for arts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2957836.0)
4) Point me to undermerited posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3040494.0)
5) Joe Jaltsenís merit distribution thread (Newbies Welcome) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2971165.0)
6) Earn $ and merit BTCforJoe (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3055616.0)
7) I still got 80 smerits to give away (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2855783.0)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Abal Abal on March 06, 2018, 01:50:44 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

merit system has been much discussed by the bitcoiner, all confused because of how to get it by making a quality post and quality post size that is relative.
difficult :) :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: DaftAjax on March 06, 2018, 01:52:08 AM
This new shit of rules was recently included and making the life of newbies a hell :(

Nope it doesn't, simply it aims to make the Ranking System mean something or rather have meaning. Because before the system, the rank only indicates the time you've spent being active in the forum, and that's it. It doesn't say that you should improve the constructiveness of your posts in order for you to rank up.

Now I can see that it is taken into effect even if it only has been a month. Just look at those low-ranks (not trying to discriminate or being a racist) always complaining about the Merit System on how they can rank up now.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Abal Abal on March 06, 2018, 02:00:40 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
I have seen sooo many high quality posts around here which deserves at least a few merits, but who gets nothing because no one is sharing. So don't expect it to be easy. But good luck, and hope you make it! :)

really really # mrsamuelmills83
I've seen a lot of quality posts (in my opinion) do not get merit.

for #kivatbat. :) :)
keep the spirit to get merit.
what's wrong with trying because I'm also trying to get merit


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: electronicash on March 06, 2018, 02:24:31 AM
Yes I really agree that MERIT requirements makes the life of all the low ranking members of this forum very difficult and it is a big DISCRIMINATION for low ranking members like us, MERIT REQUIREMENT is just being imposed for the benefits of those high ranking members such as those FEW LEGENDARY MEMBERS who don't want LOW RANKING MEMBERS to be promoted to a much higher rank, they don't want members on this FORUM earn HIGHER PAYMENT just like they do they just want to keep it by themselves! So for me all I can say is that this MERIT requirements is just being made for the benefits of the high ranking members only.


i didn't really read and understand the merit system well but i guess its all for the forum in general. its for users so they find quality post in this forum that it won't be fill with just trash and that new users are going to also participate well.

NO trashes not much post to moderate and easy for everyone not just for the staff.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: JayJuanGee on March 06, 2018, 02:40:00 AM
Yes I really agree that MERIT requirements makes the life of all the low ranking members of this forum very difficult and it is a big DISCRIMINATION for low ranking members like us, MERIT REQUIREMENT is just being imposed for the benefits of those high ranking members such as those FEW LEGENDARY MEMBERS who don't want LOW RANKING MEMBERS to be promoted to a much higher rank, they don't want members on this FORUM earn HIGHER PAYMENT just like they do they just want to keep it by themselves! So for me all I can say is that this MERIT requirements is just being made for the benefits of the high ranking members only.

You may want to consider your typing style Jigsawman082076.   

Using ALLCAPS, once in a while, or strategically, may be o.k. to make your point(s), but if you overuse ALLCAPS, then members might chose not to read your post - and/or to conjure up negative impressions of you, which increases the probability that they will NOT merit you nor your seemingly attention hungry posts.

Also, substantively, you seem to be whining about something that the forum is attempting to achieve through its newly implemented merit policy, which is to screen out new members with potentially scammy and money grubbing focused intentions. 

Surely, it's understandable that people want to make money, but if you are not really ready, wiling or able to substantively contribute to the information that is shared on the forum, then currently, under this new merit system, you are going to have increased difficulties to be able to rank up with merely the passage of time and the making of non-substantive posts.

Maybe the system will be tweaked in the future, but in essence, in this above post, it seems that you are complaining about the very thing that the forum is intending to achieve, which is the screening out of members who are not making much if any contribution.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: solovev on March 06, 2018, 12:04:46 PM
Yes I really agree that MERIT requirements makes the life of all the low ranking members of this forum very difficult and it is a big DISCRIMINATION for low ranking members like us, MERIT REQUIREMENT is just being imposed for the benefits of those high ranking members such as those FEW LEGENDARY MEMBERS who don't want LOW RANKING MEMBERS to be promoted to a much higher rank, they don't want members on this FORUM earn HIGHER PAYMENT just like they do they just want to keep it by themselves! So for me all I can say is that this MERIT requirements is just being made for the benefits of the high ranking members only.


Let me break your misconceptions one by one:

1) You mentioned that high rank members had imposed the merit system. Reality is that the admin made this decision.

2) There is no discrimination with any member. I saw that the admin made a thread before implementing the merit system asking for suggestions from all members regarding how to remove spam from the forum. What more do you want ? I think less than 40-50 members responded there and you were not one of them.

3) These threads complaining about the merit system are allowed here (unlike lot of other forums) and he even made some changes to the merit system.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: TMAN on March 06, 2018, 12:13:04 PM
This new shit of rules was recently included and making the life of newbies a hell :(

These new rules are not shit - I read this sub forum and it makes me hard

all the account farming shitposting Pajeets are shit out of luck, everyone else will get noticed in time and they will get to shoot up the ranks.. give it time or fuck off, those who know they are fucked are the only ones moaning!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: JayJuanGee on March 06, 2018, 12:24:11 PM
Yes I really agree that MERIT requirements makes the life of all the low ranking members of this forum very difficult and it is a big DISCRIMINATION for low ranking members like us, MERIT REQUIREMENT is just being imposed for the benefits of those high ranking members such as those FEW LEGENDARY MEMBERS who don't want LOW RANKING MEMBERS to be promoted to a much higher rank, they don't want members on this FORUM earn HIGHER PAYMENT just like they do they just want to keep it by themselves! So for me all I can say is that this MERIT requirements is just being made for the benefits of the high ranking members only.


Let me break your misconceptions one by one:

1) You mentioned that high rank members had imposed the merit system. Reality is that the admin made this decision.

2) There is no discrimination with any member. I saw that the admin made a thread before implementing the merit system asking for suggestions from all members regarding how to remove spam from the forum. What more do you want ? I think less than 40-50 members responded there and you were not one of them.

3) These threads complaining about the merit system are allowed here (unlike lot of other forums) and he even made some changes to the merit system.


solovev,   do you have a link to the thread that was discussing ways to improve forum spam? 

I looked before I posted this message, and I found this thread.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605767.msg26517436#msg26517436) I had not seen that thread previously.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: solovev on March 06, 2018, 01:19:06 PM
solovev,   do you have a link to the thread that was discussing ways to improve forum spam? 

I looked before I posted this message, and I found this thread.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605767.msg26517436#msg26517436) I had not seen that thread previously.

I was talking about this thread only and I think I was not registered here at that time. If you check the replies there, most of the members contributing there are high rank members only. At that time, the new members were not concerned about the forum and were thus not giving any suggestions. Later when a harsh decision was taken in the form of merit system, we see so many threads from new members complaining and giving their expert opinion about the merit system.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Sexie on March 06, 2018, 04:18:41 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)


At first glance about the merit requirements it just disappointing and so discouraging but I think, this is a challenge for a new comers like us either you Will continue to work in this forum or not. Anyway this is an open forum, some of them might satisfy with the content of your  posts or in the other way that almost will be satisfied with it. Just do your best to make a quality post ,dont give up. Through hardship ,there is always a reward in the end. Goodluck!




Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: remarkableshrivel7 on March 07, 2018, 03:21:38 AM
You have to post meritorious posts and have to be active atleast 18 hrs per day initially to get promoted


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shahzadafzal on March 07, 2018, 05:07:44 AM
You have to post meritorious posts and have to be active atleast 18 hrs per day initially to get promoted
No this is wrong, even a single post per day is good for activity.
Yes for merit you have to make quality posts. It's not really required to reply to every thread. Reply to the threads which are of your top interests and answer to the questions members asking in a simple and easy way.

Like this one :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: bryan21 on March 07, 2018, 07:26:55 AM
I think is not difficult for newbie, jr members for merit requirements. Just do good quality post and hopefully you can get merit.
More level up more merit you needed. Merit system is great for ours challenge to do good quality post.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: TMAN on March 07, 2018, 08:17:19 AM
I think is not difficult for newbie, jr members for merit requirements. Just do good quality post and hopefully you can get merit.
More level up more merit you needed. Merit system is great for ours challenge to do good quality post.

you want some advice?

Learn English, read more, read more again.. spend 6 months reading and learning English - then start posting and you will earn merits quicker than your activity will rise.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: BTCeminjas on March 07, 2018, 08:44:27 AM
I think is not difficult for newbie, jr members for merit requirements. Just do good quality post and hopefully you can get merit.
More level up more merit you needed. Merit system is great for ours challenge to do good quality post.

you want some advice?

Learn English, read more, read more again.. spend 6 months reading and learning English - then start posting and you will earn merits quicker than your activity will rise.
Not all correct grammar is a constructive post there are some not relevant to the topic, yes dude if you doubt that our post is not good in English you may read it twice or in your using gadget, there's an auto-correction of spelling and grammar so you can easily to edit if ever have a mistake.

Earning merits? choose those section that having merit reward sometimes here in meta section they giving some merit or in the service section there's some thread there giving merit. Like pugman thread in service section and others.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: fornaxplayed on March 08, 2018, 05:04:48 PM
Thia rule is causing effective selection of quality bounty hunters as for a global


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: DaftAjax on March 11, 2018, 04:03:31 PM
Thia rule is causing effective selection of quality bounty hunters as for a global

I literally don't understand what want to say. Try to edit this and convey for your words, maybe I can understand then.

EDIT: Oh wait, I get it now. Bounty hunters will still be bounty hunters, they will not care about ranking up as they will just continue finding things that could make them earn more money.


I think is not difficult for newbie, jr members for merit requirements. Just do good quality post and hopefully you can get merit.
More level up more merit you needed. Merit system is great for ours challenge to do good quality post.

True, it doesn't suppose to be so hard. Easy to say than putting it into action. Its very ironic for you to say that. Fix and improve your communication skills, maybe then you could be worthy of advising your fellow newbies.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: aurorabitcoin.96 on March 11, 2018, 04:12:11 PM
Thia rule is causing effective selection of quality bounty hunters as for a global

I literally don't understand what want to say. Try to edit this and convey for your words, maybe I can understand then.

EDIT: Oh wait, I get it now. Bounty hunters will still be bounty hunters, they will not care about ranking up as they will just continue finding things that could make them earn more money.


I think is not difficult for newbie, jr members for merit requirements. ~

True, it doesn't suppose to be so hard. Easy to say than putting it into action. ~
Well, BOUNTY HUNTERS Always think they right. Keep complaining about Merit, with less knowledge you come and want a quick money.
Silly people, don't care with many unskilled Bounty Hunter. Keep Spamming, do whatever they want without knowing the rules.
And, WTF with Bounty Hunter as for global? I think just him encountered the problem. Can't be classy?-Don't care!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: bobrova on March 11, 2018, 04:28:15 PM
Thia rule is causing effective selection of quality bounty hunters as for a global

You are a good example of members who do not still care about the merit system. You do not even bother to complete your sentence while posting a response here. I checked some of your old posts and all of them have the same issue. It is hard to say whether you forget about putting a full stop after the sentence or are using some kind of bot to make these responses. Please do not post here if you are not making any sense as it completely ruins the whole thread. If you make just one complete post next time that makes some sense, I shall be thankful.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: DaftAjax on March 11, 2018, 05:35:26 PM
~snip~

If you check the replies there, most of the members contributing there are high rank members only. At that time, the new members were not concerned about the forum and were thus not giving any suggestions.

Later when a harsh decision was taken in the form of merit system, we see so many threads from new members complaining and giving their expert opinion about the merit system.

High rank or not, it doesn't depend on how you share your opinions in such threads. They are not concerned because they are being very ignorant hoping that the forum will stay the same. This has been an issue for quite some time now, so the introduction of the Merit System really put them into place.

Its not a harsh decision, if could only just see through its benefits, you will realize that you have to stop your worthless whining, stand on your feet and start improving.


You have to post meritorious posts and have to be active atleast 18 hrs per day initially to get promoted

Meritorious you say, I might agree. But being active in a certain time span has nothing to do with you ranking up or getting promoted, really.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Boybugwal760820 on March 14, 2018, 02:54:48 AM
This MERIT Requirement is nothing but just a total DISCRIMINATION for LOW RANKING MEMBERS like to us to be able to be promoted one rank higher. This are being imposed just for the benefits of the FEW HIGH RANKING MEMBERS who don't wish to part from others the highest payment that they will be receiving in a Signature Campaign. All they want is to keep the highest payments for the very few of them. They were just lucky that they are already on the highest rank right now so they don't have to complain! Good thing that they had already bought the HIGHEST rank that they are enjoying right now or this MERIT Requirement will be their worst enemy in this forum.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 03:24:15 AM
This MERIT Requirement is nothing but just a total DISCRIMINATION for LOW RANKING MEMBERS like to us to be able to be promoted one rank higher. This are being imposed just for the benefits of the FEW HIGH RANKING MEMBERS who don't wish to part from others the highest payment that they will be receiving in a Signature Campaign. All they want is to keep the highest payments for the very few of them. They were just lucky that they are already on the highest rank right now so they don't have to complain! Good thing that they had already bought the HIGHEST rank that they are enjoying right now or this MERIT Requirement will be their worst enemy in this forum.

Aw  poor lillie tingilie.    :'( :'(

It is such a sad situation.. making me really sad to think about it.    :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Gusbaaa on March 14, 2018, 03:24:41 AM
A strange innovation. How to get 10 advantages, still clear, but what next? 100 benefits are generally unrealistic, I keep silent about the next row. I'm annoyed with this. I'm not sure of your main purpose by joining this forum, but I've joined because it can help me learn valuable things about crypto technology-currencies and technology from native users.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Jigsawman082076 on March 14, 2018, 03:47:09 AM
Yes I really agree that MERIT requirements makes the life of all the low ranking members of this forum very difficult and it is a big DISCRIMINATION for low ranking members like us, MERIT REQUIREMENT is just being imposed for the benefits of those high ranking members such as those FEW LEGENDARY MEMBERS who don't want LOW RANKING MEMBERS to be promoted to a much higher rank, they don't want members on this FORUM earn HIGHER PAYMENT just like they do they just want to keep it by themselves! So for me all I can say is that this MERIT requirements is just being made for the benefits of the high ranking members only.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: JayJuanGee on March 14, 2018, 04:27:59 AM
Yes I really agree that MERIT requirements makes the life of all the low ranking members of this forum very difficult and it is a big DISCRIMINATION for low ranking members like us, MERIT REQUIREMENT is just being imposed for the benefits of those high ranking members such as those FEW LEGENDARY MEMBERS who don't want LOW RANKING MEMBERS to be promoted to a much higher rank, they don't want members on this FORUM earn HIGHER PAYMENT just like they do they just want to keep it by themselves! So for me all I can say is that this MERIT requirements is just being made for the benefits of the high ranking members only.


Funny that you have almost the same exact stupid-ass butt hurt style as a few posts earlier...  add a few ALL CAPS for attention to your whining..  so I think that a very similar response would be appropriate, to the extent that ignoring similar whiny-ass nonsensical posts like yours and the above might be another appropriate plan, too.

Anyhow, I will repeat:

Aw  poor lillie tingilie.    :'( :'(

It is such a sad situation.. making me really, really, really and very sad to think about it.    :'( :'( :'(

Much saaaaad and very wow...  ::)    ::)




This MERIT Requirement is nothing but just a total DISCRIMINATION for LOW RANKING MEMBERS like to us to be able to be promoted one rank higher. This are being imposed just for the benefits of the FEW HIGH RANKING MEMBERS who don't wish to part from others the highest payment that they will be receiving in a Signature Campaign. All they want is to keep the highest payments for the very few of them. They were just lucky that they are already on the highest rank right now so they don't have to complain! Good thing that they had already bought the HIGHEST rank that they are enjoying right now or this MERIT Requirement will be their worst enemy in this forum.

Aw  poor lillie tingilie.    :'( :'(

It is such a sad situation.. making me really sad to think about it.    :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: hd49728 on March 14, 2018, 05:08:58 AM
Yes, it is more difficult for members in the forum to rank up, but it is possible.
Yes I really agree that MERIT requirements makes the life of all the low ranking members of this forum very difficult

NO! This is unavoidable fact when new rules, new system launched, admin can not keep all things fairly, equally because we can turn back to the beginning of the forum. So merit system will bring magic effects because higher member ranks are not enough for future campaigns, which might require stricter rules to join.
it is a big DISCRIMINATION for low ranking members like us, MERIT REQUIREMENT is just being imposed for the benefits of those high ranking members such as those FEW LEGENDARY MEMBERS who don't want LOW RANKING MEMBERS to be promoted to a much higher rank, they don't want members on this FORUM earn HIGHER PAYMENT just like they do they just want to keep it by themselves! So for me all I can say is that this MERIT requirements is just being made for the benefits of the high ranking members only.



Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: zhdmil on March 14, 2018, 06:50:33 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
Hey bro, here a lot of beginner members (jr member) who make quality posts. But, never get merit. Actually, what else should we make quality posts? Is this the name of DISCRIMINATION ACTION? So do not expect to get merit from the forum nobles. Good luck!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tranthidung on March 14, 2018, 07:16:33 AM
I have contributed to the forum through my threads, so I don't think merit system is something difficult for newbies/ junior members. We can live and rank up with the system as long as we keep contributing to the forum and help other users via high quality threads.
Merit system was launched, has performed well, and will be there for a long time; so complaining will certainly not solve the problems of spammers, account farmers. They have to adapt, improve themselves, contribute more to rank up.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: markdario112616 on March 14, 2018, 08:33:24 AM
This MERIT Requirement is nothing but just a total DISCRIMINATION for LOW RANKING MEMBERS like to us to be able to be promoted one rank higher.

Stop whining and start contributing. Instead of butt-hurting about the new system take it as a challenge and not burden.

This are being imposed just for the benefits of the FEW HIGH RANKING MEMBERS who don't wish to part from others the highest payment that they will be receiving in a Signature Campaign.
Conspiracy it is. This is imposed for the benefit of the community and not for selected people only. It aims to target the people who abuse this forum by account farming, trust farming, spamming, scamming and etc.

You are just so close-minded that you can't see the good side of this new system.

All they want is to keep the highest payments for the very few of them. They were just lucky that they are already on the highest rank right now so they don't have to complain! Good thing that they had already bought the HIGHEST rank that they are enjoying right now or this MERIT Requirement will be their worst enemy in this forum.

HAHAHA, This is so absurd. I just can't process the thought of this one, Where did you get this kind of joke? :D


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Quarantine34 on March 14, 2018, 03:14:24 PM
Yes it is difficult to every jr member to rank up to member, and many ico now is not accepting jr member according to the rules now. So to jr. members make a quality and constructive post. So that you can earn merit, and you can rank up to member or to full member. Goodluck everyone!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: BitNaija on March 14, 2018, 03:55:27 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
Check for opportunities. I saw this threat recently. I didn't see on time to have joined in submitting post but it sure exist.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3046992.0

There are members out there calling for quality posts to review and award merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Boybugwal760820 on March 15, 2018, 03:43:05 AM
This MERIT Requirement is nothing but just a total DISCRIMINATION for LOW RANKING MEMBERS like to us to be able to be promoted one rank higher.

Stop whining and start contributing. Instead of butt-hurting about the new system take it as a challenge and not burden.

This are being imposed just for the benefits of the FEW HIGH RANKING MEMBERS who don't wish to part from others the highest payment that they will be receiving in a Signature Campaign.
Conspiracy it is. This is imposed for the benefit of the community and not for selected people only. It aims to target the people who abuse this forum by account farming, trust farming, spamming, scamming and etc.

You are just so close-minded that you can't see the good side of this new system.

All they want is to keep the highest payments for the very few of them. They were just lucky that they are already on the highest rank right now so they don't have to complain! Good thing that they had already bought the HIGHEST rank that they are enjoying right now or this MERIT Requirement will be their worst enemy in this forum.

HAHAHA, This is so absurd. I just can't process the thought of this one, Where did you get this kind of joke? :D

So do you really think that you can also earn MERITS here? Do you really think that you will get PROMOTED by being their LAPDOG? Do you really think that makes you good in their eyes? LOL... such a pitiful leech you are! TELL ME... do you really like being a FULL MEMBER FOREVER????  ;D You're so weak and hypocrite!  hahahaha LOL


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: RavenHood on March 15, 2018, 04:51:42 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Take a look here and take time to read the appease:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3062711.20

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3046992.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2971165.0

Good luck and hoping that you qualified for demands


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: gawer33 on March 20, 2018, 06:30:31 PM
I suggest just join more twitter and Facebook campaign. fake posting constructive post will consume more time than retweeting more and sharing more on facebook. forget signature campaign.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Jet Cash on March 20, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
This site might help you.
https://people.mcdonalds.co.uk/why-mcdonalds/great-place-work/

It's for the UK, but I expect they have pages for most countries.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: gawer33 on March 20, 2018, 06:38:54 PM
This site might help you.
https://people.mcdonalds.co.uk/why-mcdonalds/great-place-work/

It's for the UK, but I expect they have pages for most countries.

it won't work campaign here is x5 high paying than McDonald's here


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Eleven86 on March 20, 2018, 11:41:08 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)

Yah. Though we provide quality posts, it takes time to get merit to it. At times it happens. Lets wait and keep providing quality posts. This satisfies us. Before posting to any threads, take time, analyze and then be quick enough to answer the threads. The merit would follow behind. Just keep moving with quality posts. 


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: queenbe on March 21, 2018, 06:40:39 AM
This is scaring newbies like me, if junior members are complaining about getting merited i don't know what newbies can do to attain merit as well. One day i'll get there...

yep, Its not easy to get merit. You will be told to make good constructive posts, helping others (mostly newbies) to get merit. Anyway, no pain no gain.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: queenbe on March 21, 2018, 06:43:52 AM
I suggest just join more twitter and Facebook campaign. fake posting constructive post will consume more time than retweeting more and sharing more on facebook. forget signature campaign.

I agree with you. For bounty signature, you only can wear 1 signature at the time. I join medium bounty recently, just clap the article. So freaking easy.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 21, 2018, 07:37:41 AM
I suggest just join more twitter and Facebook campaign. fake posting constructive post will consume more time than retweeting more and sharing more on facebook. forget signature campaign.

I agree with you. For bounty signature, you only can wear 1 signature at the time. I join medium bounty recently, just clap the article. So freaking easy.
Both of you should leave the forum because you will not contribute anything to the forum and forum users if keep your current attitude. It seems that both of you joined the forum only to get money, free Bitcoin from it.
I guess over time, Theymos will launch new rules that prohibit users below member rank to join any types of signature campaigns, bounties, airdrops in the forum. The forum should be a place for Bitcoin and Altcoins discussions.

Additionally, it is good if you get money from the forum through your dedicated contributions.

Good luck, guys. Merit system and something stricter will wipe out lazy users like you.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on March 21, 2018, 08:04:45 AM
Yah. Though we provide quality posts, it takes time to get merit to it. At times it happens. Lets wait and keep providing quality posts.
You don't "provide quality posts", sir.  Your English sucks, and what you end up writing are a bunch of bloated shitposts.  And to any users who have any sort of proficiency with the English language (like reading), it's obvious that they're being written to look as though they're significant posts, likely to meet character quotas in sig campaigns, and obviously not written without a self-serving agenda behind them.  

They are shitposts posing as quality posts.  I'd very much love it if campaign managers would catch onto this, and take a bit of time to scrutinize what's being written--because your posts, for instance, are in English so broken that it's hard to tell what you're saying.  And when I do figure out what you've said, it's mediocre input at best, which is pretty much all you can expect from someone who is trying to write in a language they suck at.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: DdmrDdmr on March 21, 2018, 08:23:09 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

Merit was installed to reduce non-contributive posts overall. Given that it makes ranking-up tougher, but certainly feasible even in a short time span from Jr. Member to Member.

Read through posts that have assigned merit and see how itís done. Generally youíll find the post to be of meaning and thought through (not always). That is the way to go.

Bounties that require many posts per week may tempt you to write something off rapidly so as to keep your post count aligned to bounty requirements, but this will not get you anywhere near gaining merit. If you are required to post 15 o 20 times per week, try to make them meaningful, understandable and contributive, and not just simple one-liners.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: green_fish on March 21, 2018, 01:49:15 PM
I find it difficult to get the advantage. First of all, it is not my native language. I have difficulty in spelling!

And my digital encryption money knowledge is only primary, I also need to study harder!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Saveplus on March 22, 2018, 01:19:46 PM
When the year of 2018 enter its hard to rank up especially to some low rank for now.For us who hardly speak in english and fully grammar we need to study and make a constructive post to earn more merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tuanytcc on March 22, 2018, 01:27:02 PM
When the year of 2018 enter its hard to rank up especially to some low rank for now.For us who hardly speak in english and fully grammar we need to study and make a constructive post to earn more merits.
Nice attitude and eagerly to learn. You should improve, sharpen your English writing skills first. I agree with you that ranking up progress in the forum became harder due to merit system, but we can do it if we keep contributing to the forum. Keep patiently, keep learning, keep writing constructive threads, keep help other users. Eventually, we will definitely hit Ledgendary rank.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on March 23, 2018, 01:56:32 AM
I find it difficult to get the advantage.
You're not going to get any advantage, whatever it is you mean by that.  Competition on bitcointalk for signature campaign slots, bounties, translating jobs, and everything else is fierce.
First of all, it is not my native language. I have difficulty in spelling!
Spelling is absolutely last on the extensive list of things you need to improve.  I looked at your post history, and what you're writing are basically insipid one-line shitposts that sound the same as every other 3rd world non-English-speaking shitposter's posts, which no one wants to read.  I routinely put members like you on ignore so I don't have to be exposed to such nonsense.  And when I get done writing this, that's exactly what I'm going to do with you.
And my digital encryption money knowledge is only primary rudimentary, I also need to study harder!
I have no idea what you're trying to say here, and that strike-through and italicized correction is mine.  Are you saying you don't know much about bitcoin?  Then what the fuck are you doing on bitcointalk?  What do you think you have to offer this community if you don't have anything to talk about--and you don't speak the language?  

Just go away, please.  Please, oh please.
It is very difficult but let's try  ;D ;D ;D
What a worthless shitpost.  This is how the forum has become so crappy, posts like these.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Daboy_Lyle on March 23, 2018, 02:27:22 AM
Earning merits is definitly way too hard. I seldomly see posts which get any merit at all. So I think the community itself has to change, we need way more long lasting members on spending sprees to give lower ranks a chance to level up.
It doesn't mean to us Jr. Member stop hoping to rank up. I am trying my best to have some good quality post so that I'll get merit. Even we make good post if no one has a good heart or helpful one that are willing to send merit will definitely the way to get merit.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ilcapitano on March 23, 2018, 03:43:29 AM
It doesn't mean to us Jr. Member stop hoping to rank up. I am trying my best to have some good quality post so that I'll get merit. Even we make good post if no one has a good heart or helpful one that are willing to send merit will definitely the way to get merit.
There are lots of users who have good hearts (as your words) in the forum. However, their problems are they don't have too much time to scan around the forum, boards by boards, topics by topics, and threads by threads to find high-quality, constructive, original threads which deserved merits to send their sMerits away.
The forum has covered by tons of shit (due to massive spammers), but the merit system has put them down and believe me, over time shit in the forum will decrease considerably due to merit system. Consequently, users (especially newcomers) can have more opportunites to catch by higher-ranked members; and have more probability to earm merits.
For now, you can contribute to the forum by stop making shit (if you has been made those shit), improving your quality day by day.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Muktar on March 24, 2018, 08:55:19 PM
I always try to make the best post but I have not get any merit whether the post I made is not qualified it is a big problem for JR.Members and is there any masters here who are willing to give me a merit ???


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Hanazawa on March 24, 2018, 10:27:33 PM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)




It is difficult to earn merit for those new in jr member, because sometimes their post did not read of merit source and even a higher rank. Although they are already posted a few quality post.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Lesbian Cow on March 24, 2018, 11:08:52 PM
I always try to make the best post but I have not get any merit whether the post I made is not qualified it is a big problem for JR.Members and is there any masters here who are willing to give me a merit ???

You should read Tman's thread as you could be helped immensely by his advice.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: DarkStar_ on March 24, 2018, 11:13:39 PM
I always try to make the best post but I have not get any merit whether the post I made is not qualified it is a big problem for JR.Members and is there any masters here who are willing to give me a merit ???

Your posts are trash (in my eyes, anyway), which is why you have no merits. Trying your hardest should give better posts than

to determine how long it depends on the market price, as all expect the selling price to be higher than the purchase price

it all depends on its people if they want to be patient and hold their assets on the market when bitcoin prices fall and wait for market prices to go back up I think all can benefit

you should be a little patient to hold your assets when the price goes down to wait for the price to go back up if you do not want to lose that much

etc, literally look at all of your last posts. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1817851)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tranquynhtien on March 24, 2018, 11:57:23 PM
For those who (currently) feel that it's hard to rank up with merit system, there are links to useful topics for them.
Please spend time and read carefully before composing your next threads/ topics.
Please do this to stop spreading your shits around the forum.

1.  Tips Ė Guides for forum search (coly20032003) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3127909.0)
2. TMAN's guide to getting merits (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.0)
3. Full Member thanks to merit system (iasenko) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3174862.0)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Snappycoco on March 25, 2018, 02:11:27 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828892.0

Try to look at this redundant post. I dont get it, how did he got 50 merit for that lol. Go find out yourself bruh.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: crypto mania on March 25, 2018, 08:45:40 AM
Interestingly this is really an issue one has to be alarmed about. If one is to consider quality in a post, what criteria is used to determine the quality scale of a post. Maybe i will have to visit the thread that talked about merit again.

I just don't see any merited posts when going through topics. I see only a little merit movement in special merit threads or when merit sources randomly give few merits. I see people are quoting each other, discussing, answering questions and nobody gives merits. Literally, I have seen no merits from newer accounts only from high-rank members or merit sources.

There are more posts about merit abuse on the board each day. I see hundreds of accounts involved in merit farming and this is just a beginning. I don't want to say that this was a good or bad decision to implement merit system. I only want to share that there is more not happy, confused users and negative reactions on the forum against merit system than positive.

If you are unlucky you will be Jr. Member for a very long time despite your high-quality posts and if you try to abuse the system you will be banned. There are thousands of great posts with no merits at all. I don't see how I can earn 250 of them if I can't get even one.

I think that every rank should be achievable for every member. Now you have to be expert in cryptocurrencies and have great skills writing in the English language to even think to be a senior member in a one and a half year of time. If you don't speak English or can't write long, breathtaking posts you are in trouble and you have to educate yourself first to achieve a higher rank on BTT today.

I don't think this is ok.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: mdayonliner on March 25, 2018, 09:28:48 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.


You need to read this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0

You can also consider reading the unofficial list of BitcoinTalk org rules from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Hope this help.

PS: Do not misuse merits or you will be tagged with Red Trust which is not good for your account.

-Just focus producing good contents that will help the community and give some value to the forum. You need to give something to the community before expecting any return. This forum is not only for bounty hunting. Hope this helps.

PS: Although I am commenting on a one month old post but seeing your profile it obvious that you are doing things wrong or why done you still have any merit for any contents?

https://i.imgur.com/JjUyA3w.png
Click here if image is not visible (https://i.imgur.com/JjUyA3w.png)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Woopiss on March 25, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
A difficult task these merits,  when you do not know English well...in the regional branches there are many greedy!
Even there are times when you realize that you are wasting your time here in vain, because many do not appreciate .. Although they have the opportunity to do it ..
I would have  made mandatory ,that people evaluate others..Many here Those who do not benefit others by keeping them!
Many people got their  high rank  simply, that they were registered before, and not because of their efforts and comments that make a huge sense to the community ... even Vitalik Buterin  He did not get many merits he did more than many legendary here..., although he is worthy of it ... this shows the whole essence of the system !


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Taki on March 25, 2018, 06:41:11 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2828892.0

Try to look at this redundant post. I dont get it, how did he got 50 merit for that lol. Go find out yourself bruh.
A guy who is posting only in gambling section suddenly give all his merit to anew member for such weak post. There is no doubt that here we have a case of merit trading or multiply accounts. I hope you reported this case in the special thread which is concentrated exactly on such cases, this one for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.0


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Cryptalissimo on March 26, 2018, 03:22:19 PM
This thread alone proves that people are getting merit for their comments, and to be honest, those comments are not that strong. So, lets stop whining and try to contribute somehow...Rome wasnt build in a day you kno?  :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ducdr on March 26, 2018, 08:29:58 PM
A difficult task these merits, especially when you do not know English well...in the regional branches there are many greedy!
Even there are times when you realize that you are wasting your time here in vain, because many do not appreciate .. Although they have the opportunity to do it ..
I would have  made mandatory ,that people evaluate others..Many here Those who do not benefit others by keeping them!
Many people got their  high rank  simply, that they were registered before, and not because of their efforts and comments that make a huge sense to the community ... even Vitalik Buterin  He did not get many merits he did more than many legendary here..., although he is worthy of it ... this shows the whole essence of the system !
Complaining about merit system and it drawbacks, current drawbacks can help you to move up. The system has been here to help us, and to let spammers down. Good luck and keep moving forwards.You should change and never give up easily due to merit system.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Fantastic33 on March 28, 2018, 01:31:00 PM
Merits are given to users who used to post constructive and useful topics. But the hard thing is how to earn those merits? Sometimes even if a user posted a good quality post, others do not care to give merit, or maybe those that are able to give merit doesnt have a chance to read that post. Because of that merit requirement, we cannot rank up. Even i have a problem with that. I only have 12 merits for now and still need to have 88 merits to have a full member rank. And i think i will be stuck on this position. I think the best thing i can do is to improve my post amd work hard to get those merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Talk merit on March 28, 2018, 01:46:02 PM
Merits are given to users who used to post constructive and useful topics. But the hard thing is how to earn those merits? Sometimes even if a user posted a good quality post, others do not care to give merit, or maybe those that are able to give merit doesnt have a chance to read that post. Because of that merit requirement, we cannot rank up. Even i have a problem with that. I only have 12 merits for now and still need to have 88 merits to have a full member rank. And i think i will be stuck on this position. I think the best thing i can do is to improve my post amd work hard to get those merits.

I think your difficulty highlights one of the current problems with the merit system, and Theymos has posted that he is aware of it, and is acting to rectify the situation. You post on the legal and economics boards, and those are useful and valuable assets to Bitcoin Talk in my opinion. Unfortunately they are not frequented by the merit awarders, and one of the reasons that Talk Merit was created was to allow Jet Cash the time to spend on both of those boards, and hopefully he can award merits where they are deserved.

Please continue to support those boards, and perhaps you could look at the serious discussion board as well.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: btcsmlcmnr on March 30, 2018, 02:53:30 AM
You are right! Unfortunately, quick responsive spammers realized the fact, then they adapted, switched their favorite places (boards) from altcoins (bounties, ann, discussions) to Meta board.
That's terrible to see hundreds of shitty threads from them (and of course dozens of shitty topics) in Meta board after the launch of merit system
I think your difficulty highlights one of the current problems with the merit system, and Theymos has posted that he is aware of it, and is acting to rectify the situation. You post on the legal and economics boards, and those are useful and valuable assets to Bitcoin Talk in my opinion.

That's good if you have good original intention to contribute to forum this way. I believe that on all boards / child boards in the forum, we can definitely can see valuable, helpful threads; but they are extremely hard to find intentionally mainly because they are covered by tons of shits. We can only see them by chance.
Unfortunately they are not frequented by the merit awarders, and one of the reasons that Talk Merit was created was to allow Jet Cash the time to spend on both of those boards, and hopefully he can award merits where they are deserved.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on March 30, 2018, 03:05:41 AM
especially when you do not know English well
This post is a load of horse shit, and it almost burns my eyes to look at it.  And if you don't know English very well, you've got no business posting in the English section and, I would add, no one is going to give you merits for posts that look like yours does.  You just throw random punctuation around like it's candy at some demented fucking halloween party.  The correct words are there for what it looks like you want to say, but they're in the wrong order.  It's completely sloppy.  How would you like it if I came on your forum and used Google translate to start writing in your language how nobody is appreciating my brilliant posts and that I continue to go unmerited?  You'd likely have the same reaction I'm having to users like you.  Why are any of you surprised that you're not getting rewarded for this?

It is difficult to earn merit for those new in jr member, because sometimes their post did not read of merit source and even a higher rank. Although they are already posted a few quality post.
This post makes no sense to me, has all the earmarks of a generic shitpost, and you're going on ignore.

You post on the legal and economics boards, and those are useful and valuable
I would argue that Economics is turning into another Bitcoin Discussion, where some of the worst shitposting offenders call home.  It is indeed unfortunate that these people have started infiltrating Meta, but I suppose it was inevitable.  My response is to keep hitting the ignore button on them.  Not that they'd have a chance anyway, but by doing this they are ensured to never receive merits from me.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: pratik009 on March 30, 2018, 03:26:33 AM
A strange innovation. How do I get 10 merits, it's still clear, but what's next? 100 merits is generally unrealistic, I keep silent about the next ranks. I'm upset with this
Hey buddy don't upset with it. You have to just be a quality poster for get merits. I know it's caused difficulties to get these much merits but it's not impossible. So i suggest you to just forget about the merit system and make some constructive posts.you will definitely get some merits . But after make quality posts, if you didn't get any merits then you can post your constructive post's link into some special merit giveaway threads so you can eaisly get merits and rank up your profile.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: rfouziha on March 30, 2018, 07:37:56 PM
It is not that much easy to get merit. At present except posting quality posts no option left for all members to get promoted. And the fact is seventy present of the bitcoin forum members don't know and practice proper English including me. So this is not going to be easy our life. Only  time has to tell about the future.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: reflector on March 30, 2018, 08:41:56 PM
It is not that much easy to get merit. At present except posting quality posts no option left for all members to get promoted. And the fact is seventy present of the bitcoin forum members don't know and practice proper English including me. So this is not going to be easy our life. Only  time has to tell about the future.

There are some smerits review by the people in this forum on services section. So you guys may try to share your post which are all you think as a quality post but still begging is not that much recommended.
Just write and ask to review your post post. If the op like the posts you may get the more number of merits from that person.
Good luck for it and then concentrate on the technical related assistance thread. That may bring more number of merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Talk merit on March 30, 2018, 09:29:57 PM
The real solution to the problem of good posts not being awarded merit doesn't lie in the merit system. As I have pointed out in a number of posts, if a post isn't seen by the right merit awarder, then it will not receive an award - that's a fairly obvious statement. It's the necro-bumpers, thread bloaters, post replicators and producers of incomprehensible text that cause the problem, and they are depriving members of their deserved merits.

I believe that a period of heavy modding with threat locking, merging and deletion, together with post deletion, will do wonders for the junior members who are hoping to improve their ranking.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: lobcmt2 on March 30, 2018, 11:40:43 PM
The real solution to the problem of good posts not being awarded merit doesn't lie in the merit system. As I have pointed out in a number of posts, if a post isn't seen by the right merit awarder, then it will not receive an award - that's a fairly obvious statement. It's the necro-bumpers, thread bloaters, post replicators and producers of incomprehensible text that cause the problem, and they are depriving members of their deserved merits.

I believe that a period of heavy modding with threat locking, merging and deletion, together with post deletion, will do wonders for the junior members who are hoping to improve their ranking.
Another real reason is merit awarder hard to see good posts among hundreds of shitty ones, which abundant in the forum and covered good ones. Most of shitty ones come from spammers. They are likely doing great works, turning the forum to landfill area to dump their shits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Woopiss on March 31, 2018, 12:22:23 AM
This post is a load of horse shit, and it almost burns my eyes to look at it.  
Thank you for your criticism,I'm trying to improve my skills.But this is not easy, especially when there is a near at hand googl translate...)..I always check back what I wrote,but this does not give a good result as I understood, after your comment)~ This system  makes us communicate in language  that know badly~ I have many thoughts, but because of the limitation in the language barrier, I can't express them correctly... sry dude for eyes,I'm realy trying to do it's good)...


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on March 31, 2018, 12:32:29 AM
This system  makes us communicate in language  that know badly
Nobody is making you do anything.  You are willingly coming here and posting crap because you can get paid to do it, and you obviously haven't read a word I wrote about the punctuation thing--or you don't care.

Signature campaign managers really need to be cracked down on so that they don't accept garbage posters like this one above.  Either the lower ranks need to be eliminated from consideration altogether, or they should pay for posts in the local boards.  

I'm not opposed to non-English speakers getting paid to post by any means, but there are people who quite obviously shouldn't even be trying to write stuff in the main section.  The only reason they do so is because they're incentivized by the campaigns.  Unfortunately it doesn't matter what I think.  Until the higher ups decide to crack down, there is nothing anyone can do--except to not give merit to shitposters.

when you hurt my feelings!
I call it how I see it.  You own your own feelings, and I am not responsible for those.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Woopiss on March 31, 2018, 01:27:03 AM
Nobody is making you do anything.  You are willingly coming here and posting crap because you can get paid to do it, and you obviously haven't read a word I wrote about the punctuation thing--or you don't care.
I'm write here because I thought  there were more friendly people, but you show the opposite ..I write as I can to the maximum at the moment...How can I not answer when you hurt my feelings! I understand your criticism, I study English, but it's not a matter of one day.. so hard for me! and for  "Other" do not consider messages for my Signature campaign you only think about the bad, and the Juniors are not considered human beings!!!  My dream is to become a Member only! i have now nearly four in the morning...Thanks for the dialogue, good luck!

I call it how I see it.  You own your own feelings, and I am not responsible for those.
Similarly, I can answer you! You are in a very comfortable position.. can only criticize, but we need support from people like you to improve skill, but you love to keep only judging ! Why do I say that ? I looked at your messages , 10 pages have your mention "shitpost"  about a 100 times !!! Will suffice to scoff at the people,we do the best we can !!!
 


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Aneuk paloh kambuek on March 31, 2018, 02:33:38 AM
the most important keep trying guys. try to make interesting posts to read so people are interested to give merit for you


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ethbringer on March 31, 2018, 04:10:43 AM
And its more difficult to Full members and Senior members, I dont know how foolish it is to creat such a merit system, how can prople get a rank up while high rank members make scam posts and celebrate for this


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: rockie87 on March 31, 2018, 05:02:57 AM
So I joined a signature campaign and they removed JR. Member bounties. Now I am having a problem on how to be a Member ranked. I just learned that I need 10 merits to have a member rank. So to any JR. Member here, let's do our best to make quality content so that someone will recognize our efforts in making our community better.

If anyone can provide a link to people giving merits after doing something good or productive please give link so I can earn merits not by asking people but because of my effort and for JR. Members to have a reference too.

Thank you so much. Have a nice day  :)
It's very difficult to get a merit point or even appreciation of your post when so many people are on to one single topic.I personally think the concept of merit is not that bad  but the system of it needs some repairing work the sourcer need to get pay or they have to be active all the time and for that they have to get something and morderators should be morderating the sourcers rather than post.It will form a chain and a every thread will have it's sourcer so that quality post will get appreciated.That's my point.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tranthidung on March 31, 2018, 05:59:34 AM
Exactly! It is harder and harder to earn merits day by day, because allocated/ rewarded sMerits at the launch of merit system will dissappear (more exactly, will be completely used) over time. After that, only constructive, deserved users will earn new sMerits, and they will consider very carefully before deciding to give their sMerits away to someone else.
It's very difficult to get a merit point
Wrong! No one stay here all the time (in the forum) to help you or to scan around the forum to find high-qualitied threads and give authors of those threads sMerits. It's unrealistic!
they have to be active all the time and for that they have to get something
Wrong too! The approach will lead to another tsunami of massive abusements from account farmers in the forum, which will operate oppositely with original purposes of merit system.
and morderators should be morderating the sourcers rather than post.It will form a chain and a every thread will have it's sourcer so that quality post will get appreciated.That's my point.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Talk merit on March 31, 2018, 06:18:51 AM
morderators should be morderating the sourcers rather than post.

A 'morderator' sounds more like a post killer, than a person who keeps posts within reasonable limits. Maybe we need more morderators here. :)


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: btcsmlcmnr on March 31, 2018, 06:49:55 AM
A 'morderator' sounds more like a post killer, than a person who keeps posts within reasonable limits. Maybe we need more morderators here. :)

Moderators are not able to screen all topics, everywhere in the forum to catch shit posters, and give them punishments. So, more moderators is not a solution, that is also why we have witness the launch of merit system.
Thanks Theymos, forum admin, because of important decision to launch such powerful system for the forum.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: crypto mania on April 30, 2018, 08:17:51 AM
morderators should be morderating the sourcers rather than post.
A 'morderator' sounds more like a post killer, than a person who keeps posts within reasonable limits...

What are you talking about? Moderator sounds like a post killer? I wish you luck in this forum.

Moderators are doing great job cleaning garbage on this forum. They act very fast and I am happy to see that reported posts are deleted very fast and all reports are taken seriously.

Lately, I read about a member who reported more as 150 posts in only one day in one topic. This shows the scale of spam moderators have to handle on daily basis. I think this is great that spam is deleted because the quality of reading is better. Together with "ignore" button works like a magic.

A lot of members thinks it's enough to write a long post with the right number of characters so that it's not deleted by moderators as spam and some even think that it's enough to get a merit. This is certainly not enough, long posts but not on the subject or not adding nothing to the discussion are also spam.

I thought at the beginning similarly but after a few of my long posts were removed I started to wonder what I'm doing wrong. I realized that despite the fact that my posts are long and grammatically correct, they don't bring anything new to the discussion but are just an insight or opinion like many others before.

I also have a problem to get any merit but I try not to give up only to develop. Merit system has greatly influenced the quality of my posts because I started to pay attention to correct spelling and grammar. For which I'm very grateful because I have always had problems with it because English isn't my mother language.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Coolcryptovator on April 30, 2018, 09:34:47 AM
You have not right to begging merit for signature camping. You can't expect your rank will upgrade for earning from bounty and signature. Are Bitcointalk only for bounty camping? Never it's not. Yes you can join bounty and earn but don't expect merit for that. First try to give something meaningful and learnable to this community. And learn from other member's too. So please make high quality post and avoid spam and promote on Bitcointalk. So once upon a time you will get merit sure. Thanks


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Jet Cash on April 30, 2018, 10:52:22 AM
A 'morderator' sounds more like a post killer, than a person who keeps posts within reasonable limits. Maybe we need more morderators here. :)


You see the problem we have here with people who don't have much appreciation of English. The member who vets the posts is called a 'moderator'. The inclusion of the extra letter 'r' makes the word look as if it is associated with the word 'mordant', which means cruel and criticising. Nobody seemed to pick up on this, and some continued with the misspelling.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ilcapitano on April 30, 2018, 11:32:54 AM
Honestly, you should compose your threads better than this one.
You have not right to begging merit for signature camping. You can't expect your rank will upgrade for earning from bounty and signature. Are Bitcointalk only for bounty camping? Never it's not. Yes you can join bounty and earn but don't expect merit for that.

No need to say this! Everyone know that fact and those basic principles. I am really tired of such repeated threads on how to earn merits, such as yours.
First try to give something meaningful and learnable to this community. And learn from other member's too. So please make high quality post and avoid spam and promote on Bitcointalk. So once upon a time you will get merit sure. Thanks


Title: Projects to improve posting on the English boards
Post by: Jet Cash on April 30, 2018, 11:45:32 AM
You have not right to begging merit for signature camping. You can't expect your rank will upgrade for earning from bounty and signature. Are Bitcointalk only for bounty camping? Never it's not. Yes you can join bounty and earn but don't expect merit for that. First try to give something meaningful and learnable to this community. And learn from other member's too. So please make high quality post and avoid spam and promote on Bitcointalk. So once upon a time you will get merit sure. Thanks

You have purchased a copper membership, so obviously you are serious about your membership of Bitcoin Talk. Your English has so many errors and misuses, that you are going to be passed over, ignored, or become the butt of abuse and criticism. There are numerous attempts by members of this forum to help posters to improve their English. Have you taken part in any of these projects, and, just as a matter of my personal interest, if you haven't, can I ask why you haven't considered it?


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Luigieee on May 01, 2018, 12:48:49 AM
I think before i reached jr.member my main problem that i could encouter is the merit system ,i know its hard to get because you need to have a quality post ,so for the beginner here in this forum we need to do our best ,good luck!


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: motienvolam on May 01, 2018, 07:10:15 AM
I think before i reached jr.member my main problem that i could encouter is the merit system ,i know its hard to get because you need to have a quality post ,so for the beginner here in this forum we need to do our best ,good luck!
Instead of making such non-sense thread to increase your postcount, you should spend your time to read more about the forum rules, the merit system and new rank requirements, Newbies should read before posting (by Laura). And lots of helpful topics from TMAN, iasenko, athanz.
Good luck, comrade


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: malibubaby on May 01, 2018, 07:37:45 AM
You can't ask others by giving you a merits. All you have to do is make your own words by commenting not only in one thread and give some effort for your post, so every will read and if they liked your post, they will give you merits. For now, I am happy that I am Full Member, and it is not a big deal if I am not going to higher rank.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: caytienbct on May 01, 2018, 07:47:19 AM
You can't ask others by giving you a merits. All you have to do is make your own words by commenting not only in one thread and give some effort for your post, so every will read and if they liked your post, they will give you merits. For now, I am happy that I am Full Member, and it is not a big deal if I am not going to higher rank.
Did you really rank up from Member to Full member after the launch of merit system?
I can not find any merits you received in your merit history over the last 120 days. What happened with your account?
Which experiences have you really had with merit system?

Honestly, I feel tired and boring with such words in your thread, which are so popular after merit system launched. Posters did it as efforts to earn merits.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Donovan XXL on May 01, 2018, 07:52:20 AM
They are too difficult for everyone.
But I learned to live with it. I'll never be a high ranked member, maybe not even a member lol.
This system is probably here to stay. I don't like it but that's the way it is. Signature campaigns are not the only way to make money, there are many others so we might as well accept it and move on.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: abiiiii on May 01, 2018, 01:46:49 PM
I have seen sooo many high quality posts around here which deserves at least a few merits, but who gets nothing because no one is sharing. So don't expect it to be easy. But good luck, and hope you make it! :)
   THIS IS JUST SO TRUE.
   Higher ranking users kept saying we should shut up and stop ranting about the merit system but they did not experience it in the first place. Sure, having a merit system may reflect on the capability of a user to create useful posts, but how about the responsibility of those who own sMerit? Who has the eagerness to read replies in a thread and give merit? It's actually too hard and a matter of luck. No matter how you construct posts, if no one who has sMerit will recognize it, you can't get one.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: TMAN on May 01, 2018, 01:49:21 PM
I have seen sooo many high quality posts around here which deserves at least a few merits, but who gets nothing because no one is sharing. So don't expect it to be easy. But good luck, and hope you make it! :)
   THIS IS JUST SO TRUE.

Really? show me some..


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: maxreish on May 01, 2018, 02:29:34 PM
There is no hard work for a hard working man, it was made for us to be worthy of the right time, all we have to do is to improve our writing skills, understand how appropriate we are to the question, all we have to do is to impress them with what we say in this forum, for us to be given merit,  also they gave us a guide on how to get some merit, check this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0
All we have to do is read and follow what is says.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: vanhuy on May 01, 2018, 02:47:18 PM
Me too, I have been in the forum for more than 3 months if I remember correctly, and currently I'm still a member of Jr no less.
The truth is to get very hard merit
And merit is not limited to it? If so then of course will be rare


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: TMAN on May 01, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
Me too, I have been in the forum for more than 3 months if I remember correctly, and currently I'm still a member of Jr no less.
The truth is to get very hard merit
And merit is not limited to it? If so then of course will be rare

3 months you say, Mr Altcoin bounty hunter..

Then why oh why:
Date Registered:   July 14, 2017, 11:58:41 PM

another purchased account?


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: tbct_mt2 on May 02, 2018, 03:42:01 AM
Nice findings, TMAN!
3 months you say, Mr Altcoin bounty hunter..

Then why oh why:
Date Registered:   July 14, 2017, 11:58:41 PM

another purchased account?

Furthermore, the thread is likely composed using Google translator or something like that. Words, sentence structure makes me hard to understand, maybe I am not a non-native English speakers; but I believe it is really hard to understand.
Such messy thread will never earn any merit.
Me too, I have been in the forum for more than 3 months if I remember correctly, and currently I'm still a member of Jr no less.
The truth is to get very hard merit
And merit is not limited to it? If so then of course will be rare


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: TMAN on May 02, 2018, 09:09:19 AM
No offense but what if I show you a lot of low quality posts but still get merit?

Do so, or you could do what I asked. one will get you merit, the other wont


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: TMAN on May 02, 2018, 09:44:12 AM

I'm not asking you merit and I don't want to get merit that way (reporting other people, they may be just struggling earning merit like me). I'm

just pointing out the dark side  of merit system. I hate to repeat this but in this Meta box, legendary and hero members give each other a lot of

merits as a way of liking or agreeing in their attempts against crybabies (seriously, I don't find any meaningful thing from those legends or

heroes' post or comment). Besides, if merit system is a policy then let the community judge it. If it works, people should automatically benefited

from it instead of being nominated by other (to receive merit).

I cant read this shit, why all the spaces? why does it look like this is written by someone with learning difficulties? do you not see the correlation between the above and no merits?


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: crypto mania on May 02, 2018, 09:44:47 AM
From what I recently noticed on the forum, that the less one needs merit the more and the faster he gets it and vice versa if you need merit and chase after them you will not get anything. Here on BTT users are very perceptive and sensitive to all kinds of attempts to break or stretch rules and very quickly and accurately sensing the true intentions of others. So, if you write posts just to get merit, the effect will be completely opposite and you will not get anything in the end. If you start to enjoy what you are doing here on BTT and stop only hunting for merits, then in a while, you will see how merits arrive into your account. So, stop hunting for them only, enjoy writing and discussion. You will find out then how easy it is to get merits when you combine pleasant and beneficial.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: asteria on May 04, 2018, 01:06:24 AM
I see so many good posts not being rewarded with Merit, and although I get the essence of why it's been created, I just don't think it works. Disappointing addition to the forum.

Recently, I saw a thread which someone used to cheat in Merit Systems. It such a pain to know that somewhere out there in this forum is cheating. I used to see some good and quality post of others too but they are not credited for it, it is quite sad though.
I also, find it difficult to rank up though I also understand the essence of why Merit System existed, but I wish it should be adjusted fairly because it is really hard to get even one merit, and most of the campaigns are accepting from member to legendary. I hope theyíll do something about this.

The thread I was referring to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3470328.0


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: The Pharmacist on May 04, 2018, 02:17:04 AM
   THIS IS JUST SO TRUE.
   Higher ranking users kept saying we should shut up and stop ranting about the merit system but they did not experience it in the first place. Sure, having a merit system may reflect on the capability of a user to create useful posts, but how about the responsibility of those who own sMerit? Who has the eagerness to read replies in a thread and give merit? It's actually too hard and a matter of luck. No matter how you construct posts, if no one who has sMerit will recognize it, you can't get one.
Assuming this is your one-and-only account, I'd have to say that you registered at an inconvenient time. 

I'd also say that you apparently don't realize why the system was put in place.  It wasn't just for the hell of it.  It was to keep shitposters from ranking up at-will, because that had become a glaring problem.  The ones who complain about how their posts aren't earning merit are usually the ones who mistake post length for post quality, never understanding that a 200-character post in scrambled English won't ever be worthy of merit by anyone fluent in that language.

Myself, I am on that list of all-time most generous merit-senders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat), but the catch is that I don't merit anyone who writes crappy English--unless the post is particularly useful and I can reasonably understand it.  Sadly, most posts forum-wide don't meet those criteria.  I love handing out merits to posts that deserve it, but the vast majority of posts by the non-native English writers aren't even constructive.  Most are vapid nonsense obviously designed to meet the minimum number of characters such that the writer will get paid from the campaign he's in.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: ulages on May 19, 2018, 06:04:49 PM
Yes the system is too harsh and strict for newcomers. Apart from encouraging them we are inflicting fears in their minds


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: BackBachvsUp on May 20, 2018, 08:48:44 AM
my old (hacked) account was few more days to become full member.
made a new account (this one) and asked a mod to restore it, still no answer until now.
i thought, okay, i'll just use this one and become a full member in few months time, then this merit rules came up.

now look at my account, enough activity points to be a full member but still a jr. member because i have no merit at all.

no problem though since i don't care anymore about this rank system, it's silly.


this.
i'm not a native speaker myself but i got irritated everytime i see people write in crappy english or using google translator but their text only half translated and they don't even bother to correct it  >:(

Myself, I am on that list of all-time most generous merit-senders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat), but the catch is that I don't merit anyone who writes crappy English--unless the post is particularly useful and I can reasonably understand it.  Sadly, most posts forum-wide don't meet those criteria.  I love handing out merits to posts that deserve it, but the vast majority of posts by the non-native English writers aren't even constructive.  Most are vapid nonsense obviously designed to meet the minimum number of characters such that the writer will get paid from the campaign he's in.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: golovayv on May 20, 2018, 02:24:13 PM
To earn Merit you need to be useful for the Forum and members of the forum. This will make the forum only better. For example:
1. Simply links to interesting posts or accounts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247259.0
2. Table for selection and Bounty and AirDrop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3270775
3. A member of the forum shares his experience of how he earned Merit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3306385.0
4. Directory of the most useful forum topics https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3534750
It is worth thinking about than each of us will be useful to the Forum.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: Jet Cash on May 20, 2018, 02:38:01 PM

Myself, I am on that list of all-time most generous merit-senders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat), but the catch is that I don't merit anyone who writes crappy English--unless the post is particularly useful and I can reasonably understand it.  Sadly, most posts forum-wide don't meet those criteria.  I love handing out merits to posts that deserve it, but the vast majority of posts by the non-native English writers aren't even constructive.  Most are vapid nonsense obviously designed to meet the minimum number of characters such that the writer will get paid from the campaign he's in.

I'm on that list as well, and I've tried a variety of projects to try to help members to improve their posting and gain merit. Despite all this whingeing and chest beating about merits, you can count the number of members who are trying to take advantage of the projects on the fingers of one foot. This is my latest project for posters on the local language boards - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4034912.0
We'll see how that goes, but I expect that will end up on the shelf as well.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: coinlocket$ on May 20, 2018, 03:21:34 PM
As I wrote yesterday in a different thread with this table:

______________________________________________________
RankActivity minMerit to earn from past rank
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member12090
Sr. Member240150
Hero Member480250
Legendary775-1030500


Jr Member has the easiest "job" here for rank up, a Hero member needs to works 50 times harder


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: shushanika on October 06, 2018, 07:16:52 PM
To earn Merit you need to be useful for the Forum and members of the forum. This will make the forum only better. For example:
1. Simply links to interesting posts or accounts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3247259.0
2. Table for selection and Bounty and AirDrop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3270775
3. A member of the forum shares his experience of how he earned Merit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3306385.0
4. Directory of the most useful forum topics https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3534750
It is worth thinking about than each of us will be useful to the Forum.

Some very good links, the best you can do is to embrace the system and try to make useful posts the benefit the forum as a whole. I think there are less spam posts now already since you need merit to become JR and it's a good development.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: LeavingEden on October 06, 2018, 11:32:59 PM
HmMm.. Just like what I've said..

Knowledge first before profit

It's not as easy as you think to get merit.
Extreme effort and knowledge is what we need.
And that's the real essence of merit. It must be comes in hardwork and real effort.


Title: Re: Merit Requirements too difficult to JR. Members
Post by: chiyenbtre on October 07, 2018, 03:17:15 AM
HmMm.. Just like what I've said..

Knowledge first before profit

It's not as easy as you think to get merit.
Extreme effort and knowledge is what we need.
And that's the real essence of merit. It must be comes in hardwork and real effort.
It is interesting to see the topic, which has almost inactive since May, has started re-activating again, especially the new rank requirements for Junior Member rank implemented around two weeks ago.
Are there coincidence there?  ;D
I believe that the topic will become more actively because demoted Junior Members, who felt hard to rank up back, will join it more.