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Title: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Kwame Genius on February 23, 2018, 10:14:00 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: zikabra on February 23, 2018, 10:35:37 PM
I don't care what Bible said, I know what would my wife say  ;D


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on February 24, 2018, 05:47:13 AM
God says that marriage is to be between one man and one woman.

God gives Christians freedom, so they can marry more than one if they want.

God also says to obey the government. What does Government say about it? This includes local tradition to some extent. That's why Mormons moved to Utah, where they were free from local Government that said NO.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Sithara007 on February 24, 2018, 05:59:50 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

The Mormons are also Christians (or they claim to be so), and until very recently, the mainstream Mormons used to encourage polygamy. The fringe Mormons (such as the FLDS) still practice polygamy, especially in Utah.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: salinizm on February 24, 2018, 07:12:58 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

Modern society' rules and official laws are completely against more than one marriage at the same time. For that reason, I do not care any so-called  holy book like bible , kuran etc. Polygamy is completely against with human nature. A man can marry only one woman.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Sidiq SP on February 24, 2018, 10:04:41 AM
if indeed a Christian Christian may marry more than one woman, and not contradict the bible, so my question here is is it that he can do justice to some of his wives ??
as far as I know the name of the wedding is about how to do justice and love each other, not a lot of problems and little wife, in my religion also allowed to marry more than one woman, but can we do justice .. ?? that's a question from me


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: FlightyPouch on February 24, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

Whatever the answer is, they can or they can't; there is a lot of people who are doing it. You can read it in a lot of things that relies information like newspaper and social medias. I don't really know if marrying a lot of them will make you a sinner based on the bible but in the traditions of Christian people, marrying a lot of them is not allowed since the Church are only allowing you to marry once. You cannot marry another one after you get married and if you still continue that kind of intimate relationship into that woman, in that case you are having a sin which is number 6 of the ten commandments.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: cerberus5424 on February 24, 2018, 10:52:44 AM
Christians can marry as many times as they want, or marry. Crowned only once in a lifetime.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: kaikaikunen on February 24, 2018, 12:22:26 PM
For me no😃 real Christian. Know what is good 😃


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Betszkie12 on February 24, 2018, 02:31:07 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
What's the purpose of marrying more women? If for some reason its very important I think you should do it. But if it is just for fun then your life could be ruined. Your wife and siblings will be on a war more often. This is what I saw more often even the real siblings of one mother clashes together how much more for those who are only related by their father. This is the worst scenario. Life isn't peaceful. Better look for one who could stay with you on your lifetime.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Leane Lee Natividad Cuenc on February 24, 2018, 04:13:18 PM
I don't care what Bible said, I know what would my wife say  ;D
How could you say that? That you dont care about the bible said? OMG.
Well for me my opinion about that christian men can mary more than 1 wife is No.because if you are a christian and you believe JESUS you must follow what the bible said,and obey his words.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Ayam1fish on February 24, 2018, 04:27:49 PM
I once heard one preacher say that it is not clearly stated that christians should marry one as you rightly mentioned. Buy the question is ,are you going to be fateful to both of them equally? To me,marrying another wife is an indication that you are tired of the first one,which will surely reflect the way you treat the two of them.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on February 24, 2018, 04:30:05 PM
God wants harmony, peace and the best for people, and especially for their children. When He set life up, He set marriage to be one man and one woman.

People make all kinds of decisions in life. They make all kinds of contracts. Think of all the people who purchased Bitcoin when it was at $100. Think of all the people who purchased Bitcoin when it was near $20,000. Sometimes our decisions and contracts bring us joy and good. Sometimes they bring us pain and bad. But because of the kind of creatures we are, we continue to do good and bad to ourselves.

The people who purchased Bitcoin near $20,000, will keep on living with their little mistake, just like those who purchased at $100 will keep on living with their financial blessing.

The same with marriage. Those who marry one spouse will keep on living with their blessings. And those who have more than one wife will continue to live with their problems.

The children of multiple-wife families will adapt. Kids are flexible... even though it might take them a long time to get family ideals straight in their minds.

Multiple-wife marriages work, but God wants the best and easiest for us in many ways. That's why He wants us to have one-wife marriages and families.

You might suggest, But if I have, say, 10 wives, they can go out and work on jobs and help to support each other, and support me at the same time. The answer is, you can get together with 10 one-wife couples and do a better job of working together as a little community, than you can with 10 wives in one, big family.

Multiple-wife families work, but one-wife families work better.

8)


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: WannaCry on February 24, 2018, 05:51:42 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy


It depends on the will of a man. As a good husband, you should know your own duties and responsibility as the head of the family. You play an important role which is to set a good example for your kids. Having more than one wife I think is unfair and you should know that it is against the will of the Lord.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: maremostro on February 24, 2018, 06:21:46 PM
No.
Yes if they just agree to live married i suppose


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on February 25, 2018, 12:06:12 AM
The Government (USA) lets you live with anyone you want. What goes on in your house may or may not be marriage according to the way you live. Look at what the government says in court cases. The say "consenting adults." In other words, you can live like you were married as long as you consent.

But try to get a marriage license for all of your wives, and the Government won't let you... if they realize what you are doing. Why is there a difference?


Let me make this as clear as I can. Imagine that you get a marriage license. It has your name and her name on it. Is your name you? No! It is a person of the marriage. It is a fake person. That piece of paper isn't a man or woman. It's a stupid piece of paper. Your marriage to the woman isn't the paper.

The thing that the Government won't let you do is have the same fake person - the same kind of piece of paper - marrying more than one other fake person. The paper isn't you, even though it has your name on it. It is simply one of your PERSONS, because you signed the paper, making it yours.

Now if you identify each of the many persons you have, all as separate persons... your employment contract person, this bank account person, that bank account person, the car loan person... if you identify them separately in some way, then there will not be any mix up. So, you get the marriage license for this person that bears your name, but you identify him/it with a number along with your name, and you acknowledge that this person is different than all the other persons that you have (and she does the same), then it is not you and she, getting married. Rather, it is your person and her person.

After all, you can go out and co-habit as much as you want. It is allowed as long as it is by mutual consent. Look at all the court cases that say that sex outside of marriage is allowed as long as the parties are consenting adults. So, co-habit by making the marriage between the two of you, and don't fill out a marriage certificate for yourself and her.


Look at the 4th Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Note the part that says, "... people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers ..." Notice the word "persons." Notice that it is plural. Every time you fill out your name on a piece of paper, you are creating a new person, except when you are naming an already created person of yours an additional time.

Wake up. You aren't the persons that you create, and they aren't you. They even aren't each other.

For example. You have a Social Security number that you control. But who or what really has that SSN? It's a fake person... the person listed on the SS card. That card isn't you. That card is a piece of paper. You are flesh and blood. Later, when you fill out a job application, and apply "your" SSN to it, what you have really done is created a new, separate person, and authorized it to use the SSN of the SS card person.

Apply this thinking to marriage, and realize that you can marry or not, any which way you like, and the paperwork of the marriage license is not you. It is only a person of paperwork. You and she are flesh and blood. In fact, you and all the shes are flesh and blood, and are under voluntary consent to be together. Your marriage is private. Government can't interfere until you make it a public thing by filling out the marriage license, and stating that the names on the marriage license are you and her.

8)


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: paulwallyall on February 25, 2018, 01:12:11 AM
I don't care what Bible said, I know what would my wife say  ;D

Hahahaha best answer!


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: timadok911 on March 02, 2018, 03:24:39 PM
Christians can only marry once, and many other wives in them can be civil, that is, with unrelated relationships. But returning to marriage as an institution of family values in different religions has its own dogmas and rules, how can a man in a family and a marriage can and should behave like he can have children and wives. if you look more abstractly, how many wives and children can feed a man, so much he will have them. God keep your families.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: supine on March 02, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy


I believe that having more than wife as a christian would be too harsh and it is against the will of the Lord. Marriage is made for us by the God so we must honor it as a way of honoring Him too. Having more than one wife I think is not justifiable. Men must respect and know the value of a woman. Having more than one woman won't give you peace.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: lovepale on March 02, 2018, 03:59:24 PM
If we let the Bible speak we can be hurt for saying no. If we trace the history from the old story in marriage we can notice that men before can marry more than one. There wasn't given law in that time so it wasn't forbidden. Now Christian men can no longer marry more than one bcoz it is not the right way of being a Christian. The old has gone the new has come. But all people commit sin. There wasn't perfect man in this world. Man can marry only one but can have mistress that the original wife doesn't have any idea. When time comes conflict will come that can be worst.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: universal3ee on March 02, 2018, 03:59:28 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

No matter whether christian or any religion why would a man want to married more than one wife? Have he forget the vow he had make when he go into marriage with his wife? If a man cannot even keep his promise he is worst than a beast.....


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: gabmen on March 02, 2018, 06:15:57 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

No matter whether christian or any religion why would a man want to married more than one wife? Have he forget the vow he had make when he go into marriage with his wife? If a man cannot even keep his promise he is worst than a beast.....

Yeah. The thing here is that you used the term marry which also equates to marriage. And marriage specifically sets a union of two people to be seen as one. There's really nothing much to and if you want to marry more than once then convert to islam :)


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: btsjimin on March 05, 2018, 11:32:17 AM
"Go on and multiply", the Bible says. Being Christians, men are monogamous in nature. Having one and only wife is strongly commanded. This is showing Faithfulness to his wife and his family. In the eyes of God, marrying more than one wife is a mortal sin.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Beganvk on March 05, 2018, 12:09:04 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

No, he can't. because he once said it's for whole life. but if you meant if he could have more than one wife in same time, the answer is no too. marriage is result of love, or it should be. and you  just can't love more than one wife.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Lyne1982 on March 05, 2018, 12:11:06 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

That's against christian laws.“You shall not commit adultery.” One of God’s Ten Commandments.
Disobedience is transgression to God’s Law resulting in sin and dishonor. If man and woman married each other they will become one flesh, this means that they are united in one. Moreover, it is an exclusive union.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: eann014 on March 05, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
I don't care what Bible said, I know what would my wife say  ;D
Even if your wife don't say anything about that, if you really love your wife you must still be faithful with her. Once you have a wife, why you need to get another? I love my partner and there is no reason to find another men. I love how we are right now, except that until now we are not yet married. That is only the thing that we don't have right now.  :-\


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 05, 2018, 02:47:34 PM
Does it matter in today's world? Many of the billionaires and the oligarchs are having dozens of girlfriends. If that is allowed, then what is wrong when the individual is marrying some of his girlfriends (as long as the relationships are consensual)?


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Lecam on March 05, 2018, 03:52:03 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy


Yes, it is posible but it is against the will of God. As christians, we must know how to value marriage because it's sacred and is honored by God. We should grant and have it with just one person. However, in some cases, it is  permitted. If ever a married wife or a husband is already deseased, second marriage is already allowable.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: sendohmarin on March 05, 2018, 10:23:38 PM
Yes, you are right. The facts in the Bible there is no prohibition. But, do you remember the promise of marriage? that the promise says, nothing can separate you, live except god (which means death). but the fact is, that promise is just a nonsense in our lives. many divorced in marriage, and cheating. I think it is very difficult to find the answer .


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: k00d8 on March 05, 2018, 11:09:05 PM
Probably the Bible does not prohibit this (I wouldn't know) but society does. Morally and legally. Simply, you cannot do that because the law will not allow it. Neither would society. And it is very unlikely that a first wife would go along with it.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: yoseph on March 05, 2018, 11:14:17 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
The Bible is not against a man marrying two wives but it’s the law that severely prohibits against the marriage of two or more wives or husbands when it comes to women. For the sake of peace.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on March 06, 2018, 02:31:12 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
The Bible is not against a man marrying two wives but it’s the law that severely prohibits against the marriage of two or more wives or husbands when it comes to women. For the sake of peace.

In the USA the law is consenting adults. Breaking of the law comes when there is more than one marriage license application filed for or by any person.

If a polygamous family is attacked and brought to court, it simply depends on how they handle themselves in court, and the court they carry the case to. If local community is against them enough, even if they win in court, it might be wise for them to move.

In other words, true marriage has to do with an agreement among the married people. The state marriage license is almost never a requirement.

In the Old Testament, if a man's brother is married and without children, and the brother dies, it was a requirement that the living brother marry the dead brother's wife. This was done so that there could be a son born to the widow of the dead brother, to carry on the family line of the dead.

It would be nice if such love were shown in America today. It's the idea of love that is important... such as marrying a woman to protect her from the abuse of society for not being married. Although abuse like this almost never applies to people in modern America, the extending the family in the case of a dead brother might.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 06, 2018, 03:57:02 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
The Bible is not against a man marrying two wives but it’s the law that severely prohibits against the marriage of two or more wives or husbands when it comes to women. For the sake of peace.

I don't think that the bible makes a distinction between men and women with regards to the number of marital partners. I am not a Christian, but as far as I know polygamy or polyandry is not allowed in any of the mainstream Christian sects. Only the fringe sects such as the FLDS allow it.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: dogz12 on March 06, 2018, 04:02:41 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
In our country, the law states that a man can not marry another woman if he still is legally married. They have to be annulled first before they can marry another woman.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: omarsir on March 06, 2018, 04:51:25 AM
The world is totally divided into different communities it is exactly true that different community is influenced by different religion. By the religion of islam men may marry one and more according to his own ability in contrast of cristian may allow to marry more and it is quite different.Though cristian may allow but islam never allows


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: tsinelas on March 06, 2018, 04:59:35 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
No. Christian men are not allowed to marry more than one wife. There is also a law that prohibits this on doing this. However, because of this restrictions, Christians happen to look for someone else.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: KampungMonyet on March 06, 2018, 05:01:54 AM
god for Catholics creates adam and air to live together.

then when it is bound marriage should not marry again or wife two.
because it violates the rules in the church.
want to marry again must be divorced according to the rules that new ad may marry again.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: mylifeisorandom on March 06, 2018, 05:33:58 AM
I am a firm believer of one woman for one man. I believe that Polygamy does not Honor God and is not His design for marriage. There is an aspect of "one flesh" in marriage, oneness and need for harmony in marriage and I think Polygamy just creates more problems.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Gintron on March 06, 2018, 09:38:35 AM
A man who wants to be a Christian and live a life that is close to the life of Christ should not have more then more wife.
You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully
has already committed adultery with her in his heart." So here is your answer as a Christian you should not have more then
1 wife.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: sharm2121 on March 06, 2018, 09:49:47 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

Its not allowed to marry more than one women, if you do that then your selfish! you dont think what your wife will feel if you have another women, your just thinking your own feelings and i dont want a guy like that! Your not following the rules of the bible and also the law.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: patarfweefwee on March 06, 2018, 10:15:14 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I don't know much of the technicalities of Christianity and marriage. But i don't think a religion that believes in selflessness and believing that suffering could lead you to a better life would allow you to do it with two or more partners. Also, i know in weddings they say that the two partners are now one in the eyes of God, putting in another person in the mix would nullify that statement. Other than that, the state won't allow you to have multiple marriages without breaking it off with the previous partner


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: kaputvapid3 on March 15, 2018, 07:21:39 PM
Bible is denying many things but how many of them are being abided by us?


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: brokeroutriggerR on March 17, 2018, 08:05:54 PM
Atleast i will not do such as mine was a love marriage and i love her too too much :)


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: yoseph on March 17, 2018, 08:33:08 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
There is no Bible Verse prohibiting polygamy and though the Bible doesn't say anything about it, we should be wise in some sense and learn to make decisions about matters that they haven't mentioned in the Bible. For the sake of Peace in the matrimonial home, I am strongly against marrying more than one wife.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: jaydoes6 on March 18, 2018, 06:42:44 PM
Hope that it never happens because the polygamy is generally a crime only by itself. It deals with the respect of women.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: KingScorpio on October 16, 2019, 08:58:09 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

a christian man not,

an opportunistic thinking atheist or satanists definately would especially of those wifes then make their own money.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: darkangel11 on October 16, 2019, 10:42:11 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

a christian man not,

an opportunistic thinking atheist or satanists definately would especially of those wifes then make their own money.

Mormons identified as Christian and used to be polygamists.

Catholic priests used to have wives but now they don't but some protestants do. Every rule has an exception.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: KingScorpio on October 16, 2019, 11:17:18 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

a christian man not,

an opportunistic thinking atheist or satanists definately would especially of those wifes then make their own money.

Mormons identified as Christian and used to be polygamists.

Catholic priests used to have wives but now they don't but some protestants do. Every rule has an exception.

mormons are not christians, they are a sect of christian colonists in north america. the most christian christanity is the orthodoxy.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: pandafly on October 17, 2019, 09:09:59 AM

i really don't think so, but in some countries you can even have 5 wives :)


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: clickerz on October 17, 2019, 12:57:06 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
No. Christian men are not allowed to marry more than one wife. There is also a law that prohibits this on doing this. However, because of this restrictions, Christians happen to look for someone else.

On Catholic christian, No. Not allowed to marry or to have another wife but still it happens. But here is also a christian who lives with 2 wife in  one house. Generally its not allowed but there are some breaking the rules and its tolerated, if they live happily and causing no harm to other. People nowadays does not care other peoples business.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: darkangel11 on October 17, 2019, 04:03:33 PM
mormons are not christians, they are a sect of christian colonists in north america. the most christian christanity is the orthodoxy.


They see themselves as christians who follow the Bible. The only reason why christianity is seeing other christian groups as sects is the vote of the majority. The majority chose to follow the Pope and all the rest became sects to them. When does the sect stop being one? When there's so many of them that it becomes dangerous to call them names.



Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: KingScorpio on October 17, 2019, 04:45:47 PM
monogamous societies are under certain circumstances much more fertile than polygamous,

take christian settler farmers as an example they reproduced much faster then polygamous muslim emirates and their 2000 wifes, as an emir wasnt capable running the economy for all children he impregnated his harem.

western hegemony over the middle east caused a population explosion there.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Renampun on October 17, 2019, 10:22:12 PM
Christians are not allowed polygamy, in the Bible it is written that women were created by one a male rib
so to complete one man, that man only needs one wife
and another reason is fairness which cannot be given if polygamy.

mormons are not christians, they are a sect of christian colonists in north america. the most christian christanity is the orthodoxy.
Yes, Mormons are not Christians, real Christians are Protestant Christians.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: KingScorpio on October 18, 2019, 12:04:08 AM
Christians are not allowed polygamy, in the Bible it is written that women were created by one a male rib
so to complete one man, that man only needs one wife
and another reason is fairness which cannot be given if polygamy.

mormons are not christians, they are a sect of christian colonists in north america. the most christian christanity is the orthodoxy.
Yes, Mormons are not Christians, real Christians are Protestant Christians.

there are variation of christianity it is after all much older than islam,

polygamy was tolerated and was executed by kings polygamy of rich christian kings was asociated with decadence, and excessive consumerism of the rich and powerful, it never was popular among the church and the ordinary people.

now to the single branches of christianity:

orthodoxy, russia is the biggest and most meaningful example of christian orthodoxy, although christianity bans polygamy, russia today is outlawing polygamy but not punishing it.

roman catolicism was historically the most militaristic form of christianity, it is till today quite strict about it but, the states are lashing it, women often rather live lesbian in western countries than marrying a poor man.

protestantism, started as an anti powerabus movement against the pope and his billionairism, and ended up as most tolerant and most culture ignoring form of christianity.

regards


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: inanilujimi on October 18, 2019, 03:29:57 AM
Why not?
there was even a first wife who sought a second wife for her husband, because he was unable to serve the ferocity of the husband in the bed.
there is no prohibition on many wives as long as they are fair to both.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: KingScorpio on October 18, 2019, 03:37:23 AM
Why not?
there was even a first wife who sought a second wife for her husband, because he was unable to serve the ferocity of the husband in the bed.
there is no prohibition on many wives as long as they are fair to both.

christianity is a brotherly religion the goal was to prevent rich people from taking away wifes from the poor people. muslims where able to have a harmony in a society because they got rid of surplus males in their expansion wars before they even reached age 25.

this way christianity was more capable building quicker more complex states then islam, as farmers got a farmer wife, smiths got a smithwaife a married her and developed a farmer caste.

then christians where quickly able to colonise unsettled land quite systematic.

while in islam rich emires basically where married to 50% and more of the villages women.




Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 18, 2019, 03:38:23 AM
Yes, if the other wife or wives have died.

Other than that, yes if the following fits:
1. It is not illegal in the country or locality where they live;
2. It is not against church practices where they attend church;
3. None of them will be church leaders;
4. If the people involved are in free agreement.
5. They are all Christians.

1. They can move to a different country or simply outside of all countries.
2. They can start their own church, or find a different church that accepts this practice.
3. If they are church leaders, they must resign.
4. They should talk it out among themselves so that they are clear about what this entails.
5. Christians are not supposed to marry outside the religion.


Note, however, that having one wife is often difficult. So, there will always be agitation among a family of more than one wife. Generally speaking, don't do this. Much of the idea of marrying has to do with having a family. Set things up in such a way that the children will be benefited. One wife is best. If other helpers are needed, start a settlement with several couples.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 19, 2019, 12:42:11 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
There is no Bible Verse prohibiting polygamy and though the Bible doesn't say anything about it, we should be wise in some sense and learn to make decisions about matters that they haven't mentioned in the Bible. For the sake of Peace in the matrimonial home, I am strongly against marrying more than one wife.
I'm with you on this one. It may not be mentioned in the bible that it is not against polygamy. But I think, it's better to have sensitivity to what our wife would feel. Or what would we feel if we are in such situation. Or what our children would feel. Marriage is a sacred commitment and I think we should respect what we sworn to our wife and God.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: smyslov on October 19, 2019, 02:45:32 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

You have a point there, but there is also a bible verse that says husband respect your wife, it did not say husband respect your wives and there's also a bible verse that says and he will leave his parents and go to his wife and they will become one, not wife will become part of his husband you can find it here https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+19%3A3%E2%80%939&version=NRSV


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Mometaskers on October 19, 2019, 05:00:27 PM
It seems monogamy is the norm for Christians and polygamy is illegal anyway in Christian-majority countries. There are sects than insist that it was a religious right, pointing out the Old Testament patriarchs as an example of polygamous men.

So if you are asking if Christian men can get multiple wives, then likely not if they belong to the major Christian sects (Catholics, Protestant). I believe Mormons are allowed to do so but that likely is only in America.

Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

a christian man not,

an opportunistic thinking atheist or satanists definately would especially of those wifes then make their own money.

Depends on the country. In my country only Muslims are exempt from the usual one-wife-policy and so men would convert to get a second wife. One celeb even converted after the public found out about him having a minor girlfriend he was already cohabitating.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Kwame21 on October 19, 2019, 10:03:20 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

If only the rivalry wont destroy the marriage because the Bible definitely talks against divorce.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: gandame on October 21, 2019, 04:44:24 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy
I think no because people made only two girl and boy and that way just only one pair.
So i thing not applicable to men Christian marry more than one.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: samputin on October 21, 2019, 05:46:48 AM
So the question is if Christian men "can" marry more than one wife. For me, yes, they can. "Can" somehow means "able" or "capable". And i think all of us are capable of marrying more than one man or woman. I mean, it's a choice. But if the question would be if Christian men "may" marry more than one wife, then for me, it's a no.

You have said that no Bible verse is against polygamy. But I don't think there is also a Bible verse that is pro polygamy. I haven't read the bible yet from cover to cover. But Christianity is unlike Islam where husbands are allowed to have many wives. So in order to preserve the sanctity and harmony of matrimony, then I think it would be better if Christian men have only one wife.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 21, 2019, 01:46:15 PM
So the question is if Christian men "can" marry more than one wife. For me, yes, they can. "Can" somehow means "able" or "capable". And i think all of us are capable of marrying more than one man or woman. I mean, it's a choice. But if the question would be if Christian men "may" marry more than one wife, then for me, it's a no.
It makes sense for me. Now I realized that 'can' and 'may' got a big difference. I guess I should recap my English basics ;D.
You have said that no Bible verse is against polygamy. But I don't think there is also a Bible verse that is pro polygamy. I haven't read the bible yet from cover to cover.
Assuming that there's no specific line which tells that polygamy is illegal, I think it considerably fall under one of the 10 commandments: "Thou shall not commit adultery". It was not directly said but if you will analyze they're the same. However, I'm not a religious person and I also don't read Bible or any holy scriptures so my opinion might be wrong.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: coin-investor on October 21, 2019, 03:42:46 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

There's no mentioned in the bible that Christian can have more than one wife or it is promoting polygamy, rather it is teaching loyalty and honesty to his wife, I am not fond of reading the bible, but most of the Christians church or sects teaches loyalty to one wife only
but since some Christian countries already have divorced, they can marry more than once.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Kambal2000 on October 21, 2019, 05:10:31 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

There's no mentioned in the bible that Christian can have more than one wife or it is promoting polygamy, rather it is teaching loyalty and honesty to his wife, I am not fond of reading the bible, but most of the Christians church or sects teaches loyalty to one wife only
but since some Christian countries already have divorced, they can marry more than once.
But it is in the ten commandments that men should not commit adultery, meaning men can only have one wife, having two is a mortal sin. Anyway, even in reality, wife won't allow that their husbands have two wives.

Here in our country, we don't allow divorce yet. It is not legal here unless there is a big problem between coupls that they should void their marriage.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Naida_BR on October 21, 2019, 06:48:25 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I think that this is not true.
Polygamy is not allowed in Christianity. This is a characteristic of Islam and not Christianity. And one of the biggest differences of those two religions.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 21, 2019, 10:07:33 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I think that this is not true.
Polygamy is not allowed in Christianity. This is a characteristic of Islam and not Christianity. And one of the biggest differences of those two religions.

The Believer’s Freedom

1 Corinthians 10:23:
"Everything is permissible," but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible," but not everything builds up.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: n0ne on October 21, 2019, 10:20:30 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I think that this is not true.
Polygamy is not allowed in Christianity. This is a characteristic of Islam and not Christianity. And one of the biggest differences of those two religions.
Polygamy isn't allowed, but there are people who have got more than one wife. In my locality if someone marries second wife without getting proper divorce from the first wife, then he will be kept away from the church activities. Once after making everything legal, then only they were given rights to be a part of the church community.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 22, 2019, 01:26:36 AM
Polygamy isn't allowed, but there are people who have got more than one wife. In my locality if someone marries second wife without getting proper divorce from the first wife, then he will be kept away from the church activities. Once after making everything legal, then only they were given rights to be a part of the church community.
If that's the case then for me it's immoral maybe not from the eyes of human but definitely in the eyes of God. Actually, the moment you broke your marriage is already a huge sin, what more if you not only left yout partner but also find a substitute for her. What such a disgrace.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Balthazar on October 22, 2019, 03:54:37 AM
Modern attempts to establish poligamy are opposed not because of religion or something like that. It's because any children in such a family have a very little chance to grow into something useful for the society.
Polygamy is a sign of either mental disorder or pure social education. There are no other options.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Balthazar on October 22, 2019, 04:15:21 AM
If that's the case then for me it's immoral maybe not from the eyes of human but definitely in the eyes of God. Actually, the moment you broke your marriage is already a huge sin, what more if you not only left yout partner but also find a substitute for her. What such a disgrace.
There are ways to break marriage without actually committing a sin, from the Church's point of view. That's why annulment process is possible, though it may be costly to prove that your marriage was made in a wrong way.

Orthodoxy is way more strict on that, until recent time it was almost impossible to break a marriage without being banned from church. But times are changing, and Orthodox Church has introduced the same procedures as well.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 22, 2019, 11:44:44 AM
If that's the case then for me it's immoral maybe not from the eyes of human but definitely in the eyes of God. Actually, the moment you broke your marriage is already a huge sin, what more if you not only left yout partner but also find a substitute for her. What such a disgrace.
There are ways to break marriage without actually committing a sin, from the Church's point of view. That's why annulment process is possible, though it may be costly to prove that your marriage was made in a wrong way.
Yes! Annulment and/or divorce was there, though the price and processes will undertaken is such a pain in our ass but still it could be a last resort for settling broken relationships.However, some countries are against it especially Roman Catholic countries like us. They strongly not recognized such thing thus law makers are hindered to pass the bill. As far as I know the Church doesn't have any agenda to the State but why they're doing it? Well, for me it's a blessing in disguise anyways ;D.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 22, 2019, 01:52:29 PM
Moses made the law that a man could give his wife divorce paperwork, and be divorced from her. That simple.

Back then, men didn't divorce their wives because they loved them, and because they loved their children. Men and women knew their humble position in life.

Jesus clarified that at the beginning, there was no divorce recognized. Then why did Moses write it as a law, and one that could be used so easily? Jesus tells us that it was because some of the people just wouldn't live their lives peacefully with the spouse they married. Some of them wanted divorce, and they were going to do it no matter what. So, Moses's law was simply to keep peace.

Today we divorce our spouses right and left. The laws have changed enough that the lawyers make money out of the divorces.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Balthazar on October 24, 2019, 06:53:23 PM
Yes! Annulment and/or divorce was there, though the price and processes will undertaken is such a pain in our ass but still it could be a last resort for settling broken relationships.However, some countries are against it especially Roman Catholic countries like us. They strongly not recognized such thing thus law makers are hindered to pass the bill. As far as I know the Church doesn't have any agenda to the State but why they're doing it? Well, for me it's a blessing in disguise anyways ;D.
Well... If this is a real issue, and the Church is not helping you, then you can just fuck them all and convert to another religion. That shouldn't be a problem because you'll still be worshiping the same monotheistic God. The God really doesn't care how you call him and how you do your worship, as long as you consider him as The One and The Ommipotent. God doesn't care about clerics, corrupt lawmakers as well as their thoughts.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: chr1stian12 on October 27, 2019, 07:09:54 AM
No they can't, Christian mean you already know what God says. You know the rules and commandments. "Do not cheat". Wherein every christians are not excempted to the rules. And i don't know what you're gonna do once your wife knows that you are cheating p😂


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 27, 2019, 08:54:56 AM
Well... If this is a real issue, and the Church is not helping you, then you can just fuck them all and convert to another religion.
Easy to say but that's not so simple. You should still conform on the Constitutional laws of course ::). You can't just act like an alpha male and fuck whoever you want. It's our obligation to be humane.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 27, 2019, 01:25:50 PM
Any Christian people can move to a place where there is no law against more than one wife, and marry more. Just remember. People that do this will have more trouble in their lives than one-to-one.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on October 27, 2019, 02:28:38 PM
I don't remember the actual laws mentioned in the Bible but it seems that the old fathers took multiple wives. Aaand we've seen how well that went for them with all the drama, ranging from stealing blessings to trading in narcotics.  ;D

So I think that even if it's allowed, it would be mentally and economically preferable to stay monogamous and pull all the resources into rearing a single set of kids that wouldn't be backstabbing each other at the slightest provocation.

Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

If only the rivalry wont destroy the marriage because the Bible definitely talks against divorce.

Women care about status in comparison to other women. That's why they bad-mouth men that broke up with them, they don't want any other women gaining access to resources/status that man provides. Putting 4 of them in the same house is recipe for drama.

Today we divorce our spouses right and left. The laws have changed enough that the lawyers make money out of the divorces.

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Hard to resist that sweet, sweet alimony money that can be spent while going back to the dating pool.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 28, 2019, 01:05:24 AM
Any Christian people can move to a place where there is no law against more than one wife, and marry more.
There are only few places where polygamy is accepted. Good luck ;D.
Just remember. People that do this will have more trouble in their lives than one-to-one.
Indeed so I don't think any good reason for you to do this. Besides if you are really a true Christian or a committed person on whatever religion (aside from Islam since they're allowed to have more than one wife) you belongs, you will not do it in the first place because you know that it was strictly prohibited.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 28, 2019, 01:31:27 AM
Any Christian people can move to a place where there is no law against more than one wife, and marry more.
There are only few places where polygamy is accepted. Good luck ;D.
Just remember. People that do this will have more trouble in their lives than one-to-one.
Indeed so I don't think any good reason for you to do this. Besides if you are really a true Christian or a committed person on whatever religion (aside from Islam since they're allowed to have more than one wife) you belongs, you will not do it in the first place because you know that it was strictly prohibited.

Just remember this one thing. Old Testament Israel was required to have more than one wife at times.

If a man's brother died and the brother had no children, it was a law/rule for the man to marry his brother's widow, to produce offspring for his dead brother. In fact, this might have been the generally-accepted practice throughout a good portion of the world back when the laws were given by Moses to Israel.

Now, imagine that a man in Ancient Israel had 5 brothers who were all married, but none of them had children. The 5 brothers went to war, and they were all killed. Almost instantly the man had 5 wives in addition to his own if he had one.

Jump ahead to the writing of the New Testament. If any of the N.T. writers weren't Jewish, they had guidance in their writing from people of Israel. In other words, they were all still acting in the laws of the Old Testament, because they were learning about the freedom given by Christ.

In 70AD the Romans came and destroy Jerusalem. How many times might an Israel man have lost his brothers in this Rome/Israel fight, that he might have had to take his brothers' wives to raise up children for his brothers?

The law/rule of marrying the childless wives of your dead brothers never stopped being a law/rule for believers. Rather, it became a custom to not obey this law/rule. The evidence that the law remained active - and is essentially active among Christians today - is in the New Testament books of 1 Timothy and Titus:

1 Timothy 3:12:
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife, a good manager of his children and of his own household.

Titus 1:6:
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, having children who are believers and are not open to accusation of indiscretion or insubordination.

If the law/rule of marrying your dead brother's wife had not been part of the life of the early Christian church, Paul (who wrote the above verses) would not have had to make that distinction for Timothy and Titus. So we see by what Paul wrote, that one wife is better, but more than one is understood as having been allowed... and even advocated in some circumstances.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Mandoy on October 28, 2019, 01:38:32 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

There are many religions that are considered to be Christians but one thing is for sure all Christian sects and religions does not allow an individual to marry one wife. Marrying more than wife is already considered adultery and it is a taboo. If you are looking forward to marry more than wife then that is existing in Islamic tradition given that you can love fairly and equally your wives.



Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 28, 2019, 01:52:33 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

There are many religions that are considered to be Christians but one thing is for sure all Christian sects and religions does not allow an individual to marry one wife. Marrying more than wife is already considered adultery and it is a taboo. If you are looking forward to marry more than wife then that is existing in Islamic tradition given that you can love fairly and equally your wives.


^^^ But that is simply Christian religious tradition. If a Christian nation allowed polygamy to maintain the family as I stated above, there would be nothing wrong or anti-Christian about it.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Balthazar on October 28, 2019, 04:50:32 AM
Easy to say but that's not so simple. You should still conform on the Constitutional laws of course ::). You can't just act like an alpha male and fuck whoever you want. It's our obligation to be humane.
Yet you still have your basic human rights. As far I remember, slavery have been abolished a lot of time ago. If some legislative norm is illegal then you're not obliged to follow it.
Though you can become a subject of prosecution, that may be a real problem in some cases.

aside from Islam since they're allowed to have more than one wife
Yep, but such kind of behaviour is not recommended.

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Ash-Shirbeeni from the Shaafi’i School of jurisprudence, said in Mughni Al-Muhtaaj: “It is a Sunnah not to marry more than one wife if there is no apparent need.”

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Ibn Qudaamah may Allaah have mercy upon him from the Hanbali School of jurisprudence, said in Ash-Sharh Al-Kabeer: “It is more appropriate to marry only one wife. The author of Al-Muharrar [i.e. Abul Barakaat Al-Majd ibn Taymiyyah] said this, based on the saying of Allaah (which means) {...But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one}.”

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/257272/


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 28, 2019, 05:33:04 AM
The law/rule of marrying the childless wives of your dead brothers never stopped being a law/rule for believers. Rather, it became a custom to not obey this law/rule. The evidence that the law remained active - and is essentially active among Christians today - is in the New Testament books of 1 Timothy and Titus:

1 Timothy 3:12:
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife, a good manager of his children and of his own household.

Titus 1:6:
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, having children who are believers and are not open to accusation of indiscretion or insubordination.

If the law/rule of marrying your dead brother's wife had not been part of the life of the early Christian church, Paul (who wrote the above verses) would not have had to make that distinction for Timothy and Titus. So we see by what Paul wrote, that one wife is better, but more than one is understood as having been allowed... and even advocated in some circumstances.
Thanks for enlightening me about this issue with Bible as a basis. Actually, I understand it and you convinced mw somehow that it's alright to make your deceased brother's wife as your own wife too but how about the other people which are very conscious regarding this? How can you convince them all? I don't think you can. My point is that most of the laws/rules in previous times are no longer applicable in today's generation. Even how hard you explain and show many proofs like the Bible verses and everything, the majority of our society will not agree upon it. Marrying the wife of your deceased brother, whether they got children or not, is legal back on those times but today it was already a form of betrayal in the eyes of others.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: styca on October 28, 2019, 08:03:17 AM
The bible is huge and so full of contradictory statements and ambiguity about what is to be taken literally and what metaphorically, that there is huge room to manoeuvre. Indeed that is what the church has done over the millennia. I suspect that almost anything can be justified as being permitted by the bible. Even if it is expressly forbidden in one place, you can argue that that part is a metaphor for something else...


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 28, 2019, 10:04:36 AM
aside from Islam since they're allowed to have more than one wife
Yep, but such kind of behaviour is not recommended.

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Ash-Shirbeeni from the Shaafi’i School of jurisprudence, said in Mughni Al-Muhtaaj: “It is a Sunnah not to marry more than one wife if there is no apparent need.”

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Ibn Qudaamah may Allaah have mercy upon him from the Hanbali School of jurisprudence, said in Ash-Sharh Al-Kabeer: “It is more appropriate to marry only one wife. The author of Al-Muharrar [i.e. Abul Barakaat Al-Majd ibn Taymiyyah] said this, based on the saying of Allaah (which means) {...But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one}.”

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/257272/
Ah I see. So there are also written advices from Quran (am I right?) saying that marrying more than one wife is not actually necessary. I thought from the very beginning that you can get wife how much as you want as long as you can sustain their needs; that's all, nothing more nothing less. Well, this is good because at least Muslim people can have a guidelines on deciding whether they should get one or more than one wife :).


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 28, 2019, 02:29:35 PM
The law/rule of marrying the childless wives of your dead brothers never stopped being a law/rule for believers. Rather, it became a custom to not obey this law/rule. The evidence that the law remained active - and is essentially active among Christians today - is in the New Testament books of 1 Timothy and Titus:

1 Timothy 3:12:
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife, a good manager of his children and of his own household.

Titus 1:6:
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, having children who are believers and are not open to accusation of indiscretion or insubordination.

If the law/rule of marrying your dead brother's wife had not been part of the life of the early Christian church, Paul (who wrote the above verses) would not have had to make that distinction for Timothy and Titus. So we see by what Paul wrote, that one wife is better, but more than one is understood as having been allowed... and even advocated in some circumstances.
Thanks for enlightening me about this issue with Bible as a basis. Actually, I understand it and you convinced mw somehow that it's alright to make your deceased brother's wife as your own wife too but how about the other people which are very conscious regarding this? How can you convince them all? I don't think you can. My point is that most of the laws/rules in previous times are no longer applicable in today's generation. Even how hard you explain and show many proofs like the Bible verses and everything, the majority of our society will not agree upon it. Marrying the wife of your deceased brother, whether they got children or not, is legal back on those times but today it was already a form of betrayal in the eyes of others.

This post answers the post directly above this one, as well. The answer is outside of the direct question of more than one wife.

We are supposed to do everything for the benefit of our neighbor, especially in the area of salvation. If we are living in a area or under a government that says "no polygamy," we are to abide by the ideals that keep peace, and don't offend other people. BUT, this doesn't include areas where God has commanded certain things. We obey God rather than men.

God has said to live at peace with other people, not offending them in things of adiaphora, such as polygamy. This is why I say, move to an area where polygamy is accepted if you are going to do it. Or move away from other people altogether. If you can't, then don't marry more than one wife.

While I don't know the following factually, you know that concubines were permitted in the O.T. times, as they are in many countries, today. The concubine tradition might have developed, in part, out of the idea of not having more than one wife. The second and third, etc., might have been called concubines just to keep from offending people that were strictly against polygamy.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Balthazar on October 28, 2019, 03:04:40 PM
I thought from the very beginning that you can get wife how much as you want as long as you can sustain their needs; that's all, nothing more nothing less.
According to Quaran, the God have said that it's allowed to marry up to four wives.

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Al-Maawardi, from the Shaafi’i School of jurisprudence, said: “Allaah has permitted a man to marry up to four wives, saying: {…two or three or four…}, but Allaah advised that it is desirable for man to marry only one wife, saying: {...But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one}
- From the same page.

However, most of scholars are interpreting this as "one is better than four".


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 28, 2019, 08:46:13 PM
I thought from the very beginning that you can get wife how much as you want as long as you can sustain their needs; that's all, nothing more nothing less.
According to Quaran, the God have said that it's allowed to marry up to four wives.

If it says that you can only marry up to four women then why heard cases of marrying to 7 up 10 wives? Having 4 wives is mandated or just an ideal number but you can still have more if you want?

However, most of scholars are interpreting this as "one is better than four".
Based on your scriptures, it seems pretty clear for me that marrying only one is the best thing to do. Your God already advised it yet many still choose to do the other thing. No offense but for me maybe some of Muslims, just a maybe, do it because of "flesh". You know guys what I mean, the more wife you have the happier your sex life would be.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Balthazar on October 28, 2019, 09:50:48 PM
Having 4 wives is mandated or just an ideal number but you can still have more if you want?
It's mandated to have no more than 4 wives.

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…two or three or four…
These are the words of Allah and therefore may not be argued.

If it says that you can only marry up to four women then why heard cases of marrying to 7 up 10 wives?
Just like with any religion, there are cheaters and sinners. Some of them are inventing alternate reality constructs in their mind, trying to fool themselves, while others are not even bothering this and just doing whatever they want.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Balthazar on October 28, 2019, 10:10:27 PM
No offense but for me maybe some of Muslims, just a maybe, do it because of "flesh". You know guys what I mean, the more wife you have the happier your sex life would be.
I sometimes don't understand why the people are inventing yet another problem for themselves.

Just read what this guy has written:

https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/350290/first-wifes-permission-not-condition-for-validity-of-second-marriage

The only possible reaction is "WHAT THE HELL???!! %) %) %) %)"


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 28, 2019, 11:52:18 PM
^^^ A husband and wife are supposed to be one. Therefore it is only right that they talk things out ahead of time. If the wife is adamantly against the second marriage, the husband should at least think really deeply about what he is doing.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: finzyoj on October 29, 2019, 08:02:38 AM
I sometimes don't understand why the people are inventing yet another problem for themselves.

The only possible reaction is "WHAT THE HELL???!! %) %) %) %)"
He entered that kind of situation the he should resolve it as well :D What a big trouble! He is already aware that his prospective second wife came from the other country and knew that it will cause him trouble yet he continued. Like what on the articles says, "Being on the other country doesn't waive her right for demanding an overnight stay".  If he really want a second wife, he should do whatever it takes ~ even if he needs to travel more often or relocate her second wife near in his place.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: tambok on October 29, 2019, 08:38:42 AM
^^^ A husband and wife are supposed to be one. Therefore it is only right that they talk things our ahead of time. If the wife is adamantly against the second marriage, the husband should at least think really deeply about what he is doing.

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Indeed. Having a second wife is morally and spiritually wrong. You cannot do what you want in life as you are already bound with your wife, it is your duty to make her happy to be a good role model father to your child, a law abiding citizen and a good disciple of the Lord.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: ewaspiro on October 29, 2019, 08:43:17 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

One thing is what you believe, and another what society  expects of you based on your environment.

Its like eating a cookie and still want to own one. You have to stand for what path you take in life.

Catholic priests used to be allowed to marry a woman in the middle ages, but the pope wanted the church
To keep more control over their priests, so it was forbidden.

Now there is saying in bible a priest cannot marry, but imagine the outrage if he marries two or three.

Then we have another salt to the equation, transgender, or gender corrected humans, I guess the holy bible do not mention that but the society expects you to act in a certain way.

What if a transgender want to be a priest, or can you marry a man who was born a "woman" in biological sense?


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 29, 2019, 03:23:18 PM
^^^ A husband and wife are supposed to be one. Therefore it is only right that they talk things our ahead of time. If the wife is adamantly against the second marriage, the husband should at least think really deeply about what he is doing.

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Indeed. Having a second wife is morally and spiritually wrong. You cannot do what you want in life as you are already bound with your wife, it is your duty to make her happy to be a good role model father to your child, a law abiding citizen and a good disciple of the Lord.

Since nothing is perfect in this life, there will come circumstances where it is better to have more than one wife... and maybe in the case of women, more than one husband.

The whole, basic, underlying idea behind marriage is to take care of the children in the best way. There might be circumstances of life that make more than one spouse to be the best way.

HOWEVER, in standard operations in life, the best way is one-to-one. If more help is needed, get two or more one-to-one families together to help each other.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: akram143 on October 29, 2019, 06:27:46 PM
I am not sure it is allowed in bible but if someone capable of managing double expenses then there will be no problem with it even for their wives. ;D


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 29, 2019, 07:14:18 PM
I am not sure it is allowed in bible but if someone capable of managing double expenses then there will be no problem with it even for their wives. ;D

Right! I bet there are hundreds of women who would willingly be a co-wife of, say, Elon Musk, if they knew that they were going to get a bunch of money out of it. And they would be willing to play the part, even if they didn't like him much.

Solomon said, Ecclesiastes 7: 27-29:
27“Look,” says the Teacher, “this is what I have discovered:

“Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things—

28while I was still searching

but not finding—

I found one upright man among a thousand,

but not one upright woman among them all.

29This only have I found:

God created mankind upright,

but they have gone in search of many schemes.”
This from a guy who had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: akram143 on October 30, 2019, 01:59:42 PM
I am not sure it is allowed in bible but if someone capable of managing double expenses then there will be no problem with it even for their wives. ;D

Right! I bet there are hundreds of women who would willingly be a co-wife of, say, Elon Musk, if they knew that they were going to get a bunch of money out of it. And they would be willing to play the part, even if they didn't like him much.

Solomon said, Ecclesiastes 7: 27-29:
27“Look,” says the Teacher, “this is what I have discovered:

“Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things—

28while I was still searching

but not finding—

I found one upright man among a thousand,

but not one upright woman among them all.

29This only have I found:

God created mankind upright,

but they have gone in search of many schemes.”
This from a guy who had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

 :D
Its not deniable fact that women were money hunting whores.

There is a saying "there will be a woman behind every successful man" this is because they only run with the successful man,will divorce if he is in poor but there will be few exceptions. :)


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: senne on October 30, 2019, 09:10:08 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I believe its upto an individual to decide who and how many to marry unless the people involved in such arrangement are not okay with it. Just not man but woman should be given freedom to  have more than one husbands if she and them desire. There are stories on net about happy families which such arrangements and they even foster kids. Personally, i would have a single partner and soul mate and give my all to one.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 31, 2019, 05:39:59 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I believe its upto an individual to decide who and how many to marry unless the people involved in such arrangement are not okay with it. Just not man but woman should be given freedom to  have more than one husbands if she and them desire. There are stories on net about happy families which such arrangements and they even foster kids. Personally, i would have a single partner and soul mate and give my all to one.

Actually, in the USA, it IS up to the individuals to decide.

Government has the right to dictate how its own use of marriage can exist in the public. If a person applies to government, government has the right to dictate what is done. Government is basically there to regulate relationships in the public. The marriage license is a public statement, as are the rules about how many wives you can have under government licensing.

Notice that most of the time government doesn't regulate what you do in private, in your own home. Consider, also, that consenting adults have the right to get together in private, and even to some extent in public. So, if you really want to be married to a bunch of people, you can do it in private. But the regulation has to be by agreement, where you are not harming each other, at least by intent.

But when you are married privately, and go into the public, you might be prohibited even from stating that you are all married. Why? Because because most people in the public will understand that you mean marriage according to the way government has prescribed it.

This means that you had better write out your private agreement so that all your wives or husbands understand that your private marriage is a private membership thing. Enter, the Private Membership Association (PMA).

In the last year alone, the numbers of PMAs have increased greatly. I don't know that anybody has applied the PMA to private marriage, yet. But why not? Do Internet searches on it, and in Youtube.

Three major points to consider in PMA marriages, or private marriages without a formal PMA:
1. DON'T DO IT. Polygamy will be trouble for almost all people who do it;
2. What about the children? There are all kinds of legal problems of having children who are private property and yet public in some ways;
3. Be ready for fights with government. You need to know the difference between lawful and legal, and why legal doesn't apply to you in private. The PMA simply tells government that the members of the PMA are private, and tells them in a way that government will understand. But where children are involved in a PMA, government is going to fight.

Why will government fight about PMA children? Look at this:


Arizona Senator David Farnsworth Says Fellow Republican Lawmaker, Kate Brophy McGee... (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/270764-2019-10-28-arizona-senator-david-farnsworth-says-fellow-republican-lawmaker-kate-brophy.htm)


An Arizona senator called police on a fellow lawmaker who told him to stop talking to people who believe there's a link between the state's foster care system and a worldwide sex trafficking ring.

Republican Sen. David Farnsworth told police that he felt threatened when confronted by fellow GOP Sen. Kate Brophy McGee.

Farnsworth has been meeting every two weeks with a group of critics of the Arizona Department of Child Safety, including a group that has accused the foster-care agency of direct involvement in child trafficking. Some on social media have claimed there's a broad conspiracy involving judges, caseworkers, lawmakers, the governor and prosecutors to cover up sex trafficking.

Farnsworth told the Arizona Capitol Times that Brophy McGee told him to "lose the entourage" of conspiracy theorists and "crazy parents" whose children were taken by state child welfare authorities.


In other words, government wants all the children they can get to use as object for their hidden child trafficking rings. CPS (Child Protective Services) loses loads of kids each year. Members of CPS are trafficking the kids for money. Read the article, and follow up on the links in it.


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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: ChrisPop on October 31, 2019, 06:37:05 PM
Christians cannot be married to more than 1 women at the same time. If they get a divorce then of course officially(legally) they can marry another woman. I am not sure if there is anything in the Bible against remarriage and divorce, but I do know the vows both the groom and the bride need to say and between them is that they need to love and support each other through bad and good times no matter what until death will divide them.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on October 31, 2019, 06:54:16 PM
Christians cannot be married to more than 1 women at the same time. If they get a divorce then of course officially(legally) they can marry another woman. I am not sure if there is anything in the Bible against remarriage and divorce, but I do know the vows both the groom and the bride need to say and between them is that they need to love and support each other through bad and good times no matter what until death will divide them.

Bit this is your opinion. And I commend you for continuing in what you believe.

But find the law that says that men can't have more than one wife? If you can't find it, how do you really know it exists?

In both the Old and early New Testament times, more than one wife was law at times, and at least acceptable at other times.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Sahyadri on November 01, 2019, 02:22:51 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

The question seems to be too one sided and male dominated. My question to forum is that are we concerned with christian man having more than two wives. Why cant we debate on polygamy practices and freedom for christian woman. I strongly feel that such choices and arrangements depends on an individual and should be respected for whatever it is until it does not hurt anyone.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on November 01, 2019, 08:16:22 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

The question seems to be too one sided and male dominated. My question to forum is that are we concerned with christian man having more than two wives. Why cant we debate on polygamy practices and freedom for christian woman. I strongly feel that such choices and arrangements depends on an individual and should be respected for whatever it is until it does not hurt anyone.

The problem with a woman having more than one husband is, there would be no easy way to determine who the father of each child was. At least, that was the way it was in the past. DNA testing could answer this question today.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on November 01, 2019, 04:30:34 PM
Christians cannot be married to more than 1 women at the same time. If they get a divorce then of course officially(legally) they can marry another woman. I am not sure if there is anything in the Bible against remarriage and divorce, but I do know the vows both the groom and the bride need to say and between them is that they need to love and support each other through bad and good times no matter what until death will divide them.

I agree with you we should abide the law and of course abide what God has said to us, it is really sinful doings if we will not follow it.

Besides it is much better if you are having one wife only which makes the life of your family happy and satisfied.

Except that God never forbids being married to more than one wife, except in the case of a church leader. Or do you have a reference?

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: spadormie on November 01, 2019, 04:59:04 PM
Before opening this thread, the answer that came up to my mind, is no. Since that's the Christians belief, and I haven't seen somebody embodying polygamy on their households. And it's more like a muslim thing, having more than one wife.

But, with BADecker's answer:

-snip-

With this, this would be troublesome lol. I believe that two half should find each other to be built as one. Well, that can't be helped if a person isn't contented with one wife.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on November 01, 2019, 11:15:00 PM
^^^ But the point is that Christian men CAN marry more than one wife. Sure, there will be more trouble, generally. Sure none of the wives will feel fulfilled unless the guy is almost a superman. Sure it should be by agreement of the wife or all the wives. Sure, it might have to be marriage in private rather than marriage by the State's meaning of the word "marriage."

But since polygamy was required in some circumstances by the people of the Old Testament and the people of the early New Testament, the only change is by today's agreements of Christians.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: pgbit on November 03, 2019, 08:17:35 PM
I'm the old testament, Polygamy was supported and even encouraged but as humans we tend to take advantage of every situation we find ourselves in and that is why a man with power married 709 wives and still had 300 concubines on top, even if he rotates his wives and concubines, he wouldn't be able to visit anyone twice for 3 years, that's human excess.

The new testament is quite different, "what God has joined together, let no man out assunder" is as good as any confirmation that a man should be monogamous, because a second wife can definitely out assunder between a married couple, we might all read the same thing but like we all know, it's open to interpretation depending on each individual.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on November 03, 2019, 08:42:03 PM
I'm the old testament, Polygamy was supported and even encouraged but as humans we tend to take advantage of every situation we find ourselves in and that is why a man with power married 709 wives and still had 300 concubines on top, even if he rotates his wives and concubines, he wouldn't be able to visit anyone twice for 3 years, that's human excess.

The new testament is quite different, "what God has joined together, let no man out assunder" is as good as any confirmation that a man should be monogamous, because a second wife can definitely out assunder between a married couple, we might all read the same thing but like we all know, it's open to interpretation depending on each individual.

People can do the "assunder" thing without a second wife. Having a second wife doesn't suddenly make assunder happen, especially if all the parties involved are in agreement with the second and additional marriages.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: rodel caling on November 03, 2019, 09:54:12 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy



That is prohibited to the christian preach base from the bible, and Aside from the bible marry more than one wife is punishable by the law if I am not its called bigame. That is under hrein my location because we need to respect also the feeling of the women.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on November 03, 2019, 11:54:56 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy



That is prohibited to the christian preach base from the bible, and Aside from the bible marry more than one wife is punishable by the law if I am not its called bigame. That is under hrein my location because we need to respect also the feeling of the women.

If there is a national law against it, then it is punishable by the government.
If there is a particular church law against it, then it is punishable by excommunication.
If there is a custom against it, then it is punishable by community rejection and ousting.

But that is essentially all. If the parties live in areas where there are no laws or customs against it, then multiple wives are acceptable. More than one wife is not a violation of a direct law given by God.

HOWEVER, the warnings given by St. Paul, Solomon (if only by example), and others that more than one wife will be troublesome, should be a warning for all people. These days people can barely stay married. And many of them don't. So, it will take lots of fortitude to stay married with multiple wives. So, don't do it.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: GideonGono on November 06, 2019, 08:03:44 AM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy



That is prohibited to the christian preach base from the bible, and Aside from the bible marry more than one wife is punishable by the law if I am not its called bigame. That is under hrein my location because we need to respect also the feeling of the women.

And we know that only Islam has a right for that if they can sustain every women that they want. All of us we know or the Christians know about you cannot or you don't have to perform marriage to others if there are papers that you are marriage to someone so you need to assure that you unvalid your marriage for your wife before marrying again.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: djsugar on November 06, 2019, 02:02:33 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I feel people make religion and some follow them blindly or as per own self motives. Anyone, irrespective of religion should be allowed to marry however how many people they want. Should be left to personal choice and of the partner(s). If polygamy is allowed and common in one religion, it should be allowed in other religion too.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on November 06, 2019, 03:42:26 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I feel people make religion and some follow them blindly or as per own self motives. Anyone, irrespective of religion should be allowed to marry however how many people they want. Should be left to personal choice and of the partner(s). If polygamy is allowed and common in one religion, it should be allowed in other religion too.

In the USA, people have the polygamy right. What they don't have is the right to do it in a formally legal fashion. How do we know this? Because there are multitudes of court cases that show consenting adults have the right to get together.

The getting together of consenting adults throws the responsibility of what these adults do, back onto the people. People need to use something else other than government as their guide if they consent to be together. The guide should be the religions, and especially the religious idea that if they get together, they stay together.

When people stay together, they are essentially married, even if it isn't formally spoken like this. But they can't say that they are married polygamy-style to government if government won't accept it. But because government says "consenting adults," they can say marriage among themselves. This means that marriage means something different to government and the public, than it means to people in private.

We want peace in our lives. If the local community where polygamy is taking place says that it's wrong, they are talking as a community, a government. Why? Because government formally says "consenting adults." But people don't understand this about government. So they still think that private polygamy is wrong, legally. The point is, if you know that the community isn't going to accept it, even if the community is wrong to not accept it, why would you do it and create turmoil in the community? Work for peace in the community. Don't even do private polygamy if it is going to disrupt the community.

If you DO polygamy, realize that marriage is supposed to be for life, and that you are doing it until "death do us part." So, move away from people who won't accept it, so you don't offend them. And don't call it polygamy to government, because most governments (in the West, at least) won't accept it. Don't even call it polygamy if you are taken to court. Simply call it what is in the eyes of government, consenting adults.

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Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: yoseph on November 06, 2019, 04:02:19 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I feel people make religion and some follow them blindly or as per own self motives. Anyone, irrespective of religion should be allowed to marry however how many people they want. Should be left to personal choice and of the partner(s). If polygamy is allowed and common in one religion, it should be allowed in other religion too.
The Bible never said anything about polygamy so to my understanding in general, everyone is free to do what he/she likes but the law has a totally different view of thing where polygamy is strongly forbidden but when you go to most Islamic countries, there is nothing wrong with that but it's pegged at a man having five wives at most.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Artemis3 on November 06, 2019, 04:29:08 PM
Some people here wrote Christians won't do it, but you would be surprised. There are exceptions...

Monogamy was the norm among Christians, However, in the context of the sickness of a wife preventing matrimonial intercourse, the founder of the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther wrote: "I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter."

Thing is, Christianity comes from Judaism, and Judaism practiced it. It was especially common in rulers, not just because they were rich, but to forge pacts and alliances with other countries etc.

By the time Islam came into being, polygamy was still practiced among their contemporaries, even Christians. But some simply never got married, because of celibate etc.

Today some Christian denominations/sects practice it. Most secular laws in the west forbid it, and in that case they do it "in private", to avoid the (secular) legal troubles.

In more recent times you see for instance kings in Africa, convert to Christianity, but they happen to have like 15 wives or so, they make exceptions (not letting him marry more, etc).

However, a small group of evangelical Christians in the West numbering 50,000 persons practice Christian polygamy, believing that the Bible glorifies this form of marriage, citing the fact that many biblical prophets had multiple wives, including David, Abraham, Jacob and Solomon. Individual evangelical Christian pastors throughout Christendom have married more than one woman. The Presbyterian missionary Harold Turner acknowledged that the practice of polygamy was a cultural norm in some parts of the world, such as Africa, and cautioned against Western Christian missionaries imposing the foreign cultural norm of monogamy on the Christians of Africa as the latter would lead to the sins of divorce, leaving children without both of their parents, and remarriage of the divorced wife.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Naida_BR on November 06, 2019, 06:46:52 PM
Christian men can marry more than one wife no bible verses is against polygamy

I feel people make religion and some follow them blindly or as per own self motives. Anyone, irrespective of religion should be allowed to marry however how many people they want. Should be left to personal choice and of the partner(s). If polygamy is allowed and common in one religion, it should be allowed in other religion too.

This is very dangerous for the world. If anyone should be allowed to marry as many people as they want there would be a lot of society anomalies.
Also, due to the fact that sexual activity is something that transfers a lot of diseases it may create pandemia or something that would infect the global population.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: Artemis3 on November 06, 2019, 08:54:45 PM
This is very dangerous for the world. If anyone should be allowed to marry as many people as they want there would be a lot of society anomalies.
Also, due to the fact that sexual activity is something that transfers a lot of diseases it may create pandemia or something that would infect the global population.

Are you not confusing promiscuity with polygamy? The whole point of marriage is so they don't go to other partners, and precisely avoid what you describe. Else they wouldn't bother with marriage at all.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: gabmen on November 07, 2019, 01:11:56 AM
This is very dangerous for the world. If anyone should be allowed to marry as many people as they want there would be a lot of society anomalies.
Also, due to the fact that sexual activity is something that transfers a lot of diseases it may create pandemia or something that would infect the global population.

Are you not confusing promiscuity with polygamy? The whole point of marriage is so they don't go to other partners, and precisely avoid what you describe. Else they wouldn't bother with marriage at all.

Well as long as it's consensual, I think it's okay. Though that's just to live under the same roof. Of course, when it comes to the Christian doctrine, they're only allowed one wife. If you're going to strictly follow that, then of course, the answer is no. And most laws also don't find it acceptable. It would be between the parties involved if they can stomach the fact that they're sharing their wives/ husbands with other people.


Title: Re: Can Christian men marry more than one wife?
Post by: BADecker on November 07, 2019, 02:04:23 AM
This is very dangerous for the world. If anyone should be allowed to marry as many people as they want there would be a lot of society anomalies.
Also, due to the fact that sexual activity is something that transfers a lot of diseases it may create pandemia or something that would infect the global population.

Are you not confusing promiscuity with polygamy? The whole point of marriage is so they don't go to other partners, and precisely avoid what you describe. Else they wouldn't bother with marriage at all.

Well as long as it's consensual, I think it's okay. Though that's just to live under the same roof. Of course, when it comes to the Christian doctrine, they're only allowed one wife. If you're going to strictly follow that, then of course, the answer is no. And most laws also don't find it acceptable. It would be between the parties involved if they can stomach the fact that they're sharing their wives/ husbands with other people.

Is christian doctrine that doesn't allow polygamy Bible based? Or is it church tradition?

If it is Bible based, do you have any Bible passage that is for people today, that bars people from polygamy?

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