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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: sootedtho on September 25, 2013, 06:23:21 PM



Title: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 25, 2013, 06:23:21 PM
Hello all. I am interested in gauging possible interest in loaning 1.5 btc until October 3.

Just a background on myself, I have been interested in btc for several months now and got started playing on the btc poker site Seals With Clubs. I have had some success there and have built myself quite a positive rep there. I would gladly ask some ppl from SWC to come and vouch for me, if that would help in the loan process.

There is a Wall of Trust associated with SWC and in just a few short months i have build a positive rep, by not only completing multiple trades, but paying back on stakes. I have payed back almost 4 btc in stakes.

http://sealsdeals.info/?trust (http://sealsdeals.info/?trust)- my current trust rating is at 8100+ (my screen name on SWC is SootedTho as well)

As far as collateral,  i can transfer my SWC account to you, currently have a .05 btc balance there. I had to cash out my 3btc roll last night and empty my coinbase balance as-well. Unfortunately, I am need of money for some unforeseen circumstances. I travel daily up to 100 miles for my job and unfortunately my car took a dump. I brought it in and i need a new tranny:(

My next paycheck will be coming in on the 2nd of October and will be able to pay off the loan no later than October 3rd. I think a 10% interest would be fair but an open to negotiation. so I would be paying back 1.65 btc on 1.5btc within 8 days.

I realize that my SWC acct is not exactly 1.5btc worth of collateral, but accounts on SWC have been sold for well over 1.5 btc in the past.

Anyway im in fairly serious need of this loan but i understand if no one can help as btc is the wild wild west. But any help would be appreciated.

BTW if u have a SWC acct you can go into SWC chat and i would have several ppl vouch for my honesty and integrity


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Vod on September 25, 2013, 06:26:01 PM
Nice profile pic.  :)


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 25, 2013, 06:44:09 PM
Nice profile pic.  :)

lol love me some Always Sunny.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 25, 2013, 06:57:40 PM
Does seem legit to me.

Still wondering:
Why don't you use the 2 BTC of 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 instead of borrowing?
Why don't you update this "blog (http://grindabit.discussioncommunity.com/post/my-online-poker-journey-6404314?&trail=30)" anymore ?


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 25, 2013, 07:13:05 PM
Does seem legit to me.

Still wondering:
Why don't you use the 2 BTC of 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 instead of borrowing?
Why don't you update this "blog (http://grindabit.discussioncommunity.com/post/my-online-poker-journey-6404314?&trail=30)" anymore ?

To question 1: I sold those 2 btc last night on coinbase, as that will be part of the money i need in the car repair.
                    http://imgur.com/73Bnu22 (http://imgur.com/73Bnu22)
                    http://imgur.com/b9sysij (http://imgur.com/b9sysij)

To question 2: I have not updated the blog for at least a month for a couple reasons, i made the blog to track my staking results from another player on SWC. He staked me 1 btc for tournaments and that blog actually shows in great detail my progress with that stake. Another reason i quit updating the blog is that i took a break from poker for about a month to pursue some more things irl.

I hope this answers your questions and i am appreciative of your questions and or concerns


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 25, 2013, 07:32:55 PM
I never used coinbase, so consider me as a newbie, here, but how come those 2BTC are still on this unspent output of yours if they're promised to them?

https://blockchain.info/address/1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1

You push a request to trade BTC for (stinky)$, they give you a date like 09/30 and you have to send the Tx on that day? Is that it? ???


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 25, 2013, 07:43:10 PM
I never used coinbase, so consider me as a newbie, here, but how come those 2BTC are still on this unspent output of yours if they're promised to them?

https://blockchain.info/address/1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1

You push a request to trade BTC for (stinky)$, they give you a date like 09/30 and you have to send the Tx on that day? Is that it? ???

As far as i know, I have sold about 10btc thru coinbase, when i sell coins to coinbase they take the funds directly out of my coinbase btc balance and they give me a notice of when the money will hit my bank account. It has never actually taken the full time frame they give, the money usually hits my acct before.

To be honest, this seems to be the most convenient way to turn my btc into cash in my bank acct. Perhaps there are better ways but im not too knowledgeable on other btc wallets. I'm not sure about the stuff on blockchain other than that it shows the 2btc i withdrew from SWC into my coinbase acct. But those two coins have been sold. 


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 25, 2013, 07:52:37 PM
So that means you don't know the private key for 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 ?
If so, I would advise to change your profile and switch to an address which you fully own.
Just in case coinbase would default.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 25, 2013, 08:41:12 PM
So that means you don't know the private key for 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 ?
If so, I would advise to change your profile and switch to an address which you fully own.
Just in case coinbase would default.

Well im embarrassed to show my lack of btc knowledge, but im not sure what a private key is. I only have btc addresses thru coinbase, which i can change at anytime, and that is basically the extent of my knowledge btc wallets.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: monbux on September 25, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
So that means you don't know the private key for 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 ?
If so, I would advise to change your profile and switch to an address which you fully own.
Just in case coinbase would default.

Well im embarrassed to show my lack of btc knowledge, but im not sure what a private key is. I only have btc addresses thru coinbase, which i can change at anytime, and that is basically the extent of my knowledge btc wallets.

How can you "change" a bitcoin address?  I think you meant to say you could create a new one.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: cbhelp on September 25, 2013, 08:50:51 PM
You can get the private key from coinbase I think....maybe not.

And I think he did mean he could create a new one on coinbase, they allow you to make new ones anytime.

I have a question.  I buy from coinbase sometimes, but never sold.  How long does it take to arrive in your bank account on average in your exp. from when you send them the coins?


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 25, 2013, 09:05:28 PM
You can get the private key from coinbase I think....maybe not.

And I think he did mean he could create a new one on coinbase, they allow you to make new ones anytime.

I have a question.  I buy from coinbase sometimes, but never sold.  How long does it take to arrive in your bank account on average in your exp. from when you send them the coins?

I have never had it take more than 3 business days to hit my bank account.

And yes, every time i do a transaction i make it a habit to create a new btc address, i guess not "changing it"



Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 25, 2013, 11:09:19 PM
Well im embarrassed to show my lack of btc knowledge, but im not sure what a private key is.
Any idea about what a "bitcoin wallet" could be ?
I need to know that before I go for one definition or the other, trying to explain the private key thing.



Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 25, 2013, 11:33:55 PM
Well im embarrassed to show my lack of btc knowledge, but im not sure what a private key is.
Any idea about what a "bitcoin wallet" could be ?
I need to know that before I go for one definition or the other, trying to explain the private key thing.


I do know what a bitcoin wallet is in the most layman's terms. My knowledge of a btc wallet is that it functions as a way for a person to make transactions with others and allows you to retain and own a btc balance. I know only of coinbase and blockchain as online wallets but I know there are more but im not even sure what they are.

lol, admittedly I am more of a noob than i even thought when it comes to btc. But so far i have had great experiences in the btc community and am learning more every day.

But I want to keep this thread on topic as much as possible. It seems the loaning process is very tough as scammers have made loaners skeptical, and rightfully so imo.

Again to anyone considering loaning, first off i appreciate it, and i want to try and prove my trustworthiness as much as possible. I will be on SWC most of the night if any1 wants to stop into chat and i will have other reputable SWC members vouch for my integrity.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 25, 2013, 11:51:11 PM
I do know what a bitcoin wallet is in the most layman's terms. My knowledge of a btc wallet is that it functions as a way for a person to make transactions with others and allows you to retain and own a btc balance. I know only of coinbase and blockchain as online wallets but I know there are more but im not even sure what they are.

I do have a blockchain wallet, too, so we're on par, here.

The private key for any address (online or offline) is like the "password" allowing you to spend bitcoins. Like a pin-code.
If you don't kown it and let some 3rd party site handle it, you're as good as dry.

Please, if you can, quickly move those 2 bitcoins of yours to a secure address (one you know the private key of), for instance in a (online) blockchain or local (Armory, Electrum, Bitcoin-QT) wallet.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 12:06:00 AM
I do know what a bitcoin wallet is in the most layman's terms. My knowledge of a btc wallet is that it functions as a way for a person to make transactions with others and allows you to retain and own a btc balance. I know only of coinbase and blockchain as online wallets but I know there are more but im not even sure what they are.

I do have a blockchain wallet, too, so we're on par, here.

The private key for any address (online or offline) is like the "password" allowing you to spend bitcoins. Like a pin-code.
If you don't kown it and let some 3rd party site handle it, you're as good as dry.

Please, if you can, quickly move those 2 bitcoins of yours to a secure address (one you know the private key of), for instance in a (online) blockchain or local (Armory, Electrum, Bitcoin-QT) wallet.

I no longer has access to those 2 bitcoins i sold to coinbase. They are taken directly out of my coinbase account when i agree to sell them. In this case i sold 2 btc for $245.13.

I just realized 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 is my btc address for SWC. and I did deposit 2 btc last week, but had to withdraw that last night. I guess im a bit confused as it says my final balance is 2 btc but i withdrew that?


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 12:10:01 AM
I just realized 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 is my btc address for SWC. and I did deposit 2 btc last week, but had to withdraw that last night. I guess im a bit confused as it says my final balance is 2 btc but i withdrew that?

That's very weird, indeed.
Can you pm the transaction Id to me (or even better, post it here), please? We might be able to help you.

1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 => ?


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: cbhelp on September 26, 2013, 12:13:30 AM
Its not that weird.

Seals controls that address. I bet when you cashout it doesn't come from that address. They watch that address and once it sees an incoming tranasaction to that address, they credit your account. They now own those btc. They don't have to move it out right away. They probably move the coins occasionally to a master wallet.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 12:19:47 AM
They watch that address and once it sees an incoming tranasaction to that address, they credit your account.
So they're able to move BTC from an address they're "watching" to one of theirs?
Scary!


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 12:23:32 AM
I just realized 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 is my btc address for SWC. and I did deposit 2 btc last week, but had to withdraw that last night. I guess im a bit confused as it says my final balance is 2 btc but i withdrew that?

That's very weird, indeed.
Can you pm the transaction Id to me (or even better, post it here), please? We might be able to help you.

1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 => ?

1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1=>1Np1RYRjN4fZzMYuLq3t8pMRjuNrHpBXxc

If that is what you are asking:)


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: cbhelp on September 26, 2013, 12:26:09 AM
They watch that address and once it sees an incoming tranasaction to that address, they credit your account.
So they're able to move BTC from an address they're "watching" to one of theirs?
Scary!

Why is it scary?  They own the address. Its a deposit address to their site.....


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 12:29:57 AM
I see https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1HQYz6r32DoKjTSgpZDsYaRYuqSLHL5t8W gave 2 BTC to https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1Np1RYRjN4fZzMYuLq3t8pMRjuNrHpBXxc

How is that related to your 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 address ?


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 12:38:23 AM
I see https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1HQYz6r32DoKjTSgpZDsYaRYuqSLHL5t8W gave 2 BTC to https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1Np1RYRjN4fZzMYuLq3t8pMRjuNrHpBXxc

How is that related to your 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 address ?

1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 is my SWC deposit address, and u can see on the 19th i deposited 2 btc. I withdrew 2 btc last night to 1Np1RYRjN4fZzMYuLq3t8pMRjuNrHpBXxc. Im not sure how SWC withdraws work, but i have no ownership of the 1HQYz6r32DoKjTSgpZDsYaRYuqSLHL5t8W address.

Im thinking they do withdraws like twice a day, because it says withdraws can take up to 12 hours to complete. They do these manually and i think the 2 btc was sent from a SWC address. As it looks like they sent out 12 btc in total, 2 of which went to my acct.


I guess i still dont know why 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 shows a final balance of 2 btc


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 12:45:18 AM
1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 is my SWC deposit address, and u can see on the 19th i deposited 2 btc.
https://blockchain.info/address/1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1
Just take those 2BTC back?


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: cbhelp on September 26, 2013, 12:48:15 AM
1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 is my SWC deposit address, and u can see on the 19th i deposited 2 btc.
https://blockchain.info/address/1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1
Just take those 2BTC back?

Its a DEPOSIT ADDRESS..... He can't take them back...he doesn't own the private key. Same as if you deposit into a btc sportsbook.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 12:51:10 AM
1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 is my SWC deposit address, and u can see on the 19th i deposited 2 btc.
https://blockchain.info/address/1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1
Just take those 2BTC back?

Im a little confused here. I deposited 2 btc to SWC on the 19th and yesterday I withdrew those 2 btc to my coinbase account. I then sold those 2 btc to coinbase, what 2 btc can i take back?

Also why the heck is blockchain come up in french now lol has any1 had that problem


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Vod on September 26, 2013, 12:52:21 AM
Also why the heck is blockchain come up in french now lol has any1 had that problem

Upper right hand corner there is a little flag....


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 12:53:56 AM
Also why the heck is blockchain come up in french now lol has any1 had that problem

Upper right hand corner there is a little flag....

Hey TY, no idea how that got changed in the first place???


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 12:59:00 AM
Also why the heck is blockchain come up in french now lol has any1 had that problem
That's my fault, sorry, I'm using the french blockchain, for some obscure reason. :P

I'm pretty confused, now.
Are you telling me the address you set up in your account is not yours?

http://uppix.com/f-soote524385e500140f9c.png

Is coinbase the only one to know the private key for this address? ???


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 01:04:05 AM
Also why the heck is blockchain come up in french now lol has any1 had that problem
That's my fault, sorry, I'm using the french blockchain, for some obscure reason. :P

I'm pretty confused, now.
Are you telling me the address you set up in your account is not yours?

http://uppix.com/f-soote524385e500140f9c.png

Is coinbase the only one to know the private key for this address? ???

When i set up and filled in the details of my account here, i didnt even have a bitcoin wallet or address other than my deposit address on SWC. I have since made a coinbase acct and have other btc addresses  but neglected to update my profile. I guess when i set up my acct here I just wanted to put an fill in an address and that was the only one i had. I hope that makes sense


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 01:09:20 AM
When i set up and filled in the details of my account here, i didnt even have a bitcoin wallet or address other than my deposit address on SWC. I have since made a coinbase acct and have other btc addresses  but neglected to update my profile. I guess when i set up my acct here I just wanted to put an fill in an address and that was the only one i had. I hope that makes sense

You do not own this address, we're ok on that.
But is that a coinbase or SWC address?


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 01:12:20 AM
When i set up and filled in the details of my account here, i didnt even have a bitcoin wallet or address other than my deposit address on SWC. I have since made a coinbase acct and have other btc addresses  but neglected to update my profile. I guess when i set up my acct here I just wanted to put an fill in an address and that was the only one i had. I hope that makes sense

You do not own this address, we're ok on that.
But is that a coinbase or SWC address?

The address listed on my acct profile is a SWC address, sorry for any confusion. I thought I had a coinbase address on there but realized just not long ago that it is indeed a swc deposit address


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 01:13:37 AM
I thought I had a coinbase address on there but realized just not long ago that it is indeed a swc deposit address
Then just get the 2 BTC back from there instead of trying to borrow from here? :)


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 01:18:07 AM
I thought I had a coinbase address on there but realized just not long ago that it is indeed a swc deposit address
Then just get the 2 BTC back from there instead of trying to borrow from here? :)

I think there is a misunderstanding here. I dont have those 2 btcs anymore, i withdrew those 2 btcs last night and sold them to coinbase. I dont know what you are asking me to do? I cant get those 2 btc back, or am i missing something here


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 01:30:14 AM
I think there is a misunderstanding here. I dont have those 2 btcs anymore, i withdrew those 2 btcs last night and sold them to coinbase. I dont know what you are asking me to do? I cant get those 2 btc back, or am i missing something here

Yeah, very messy here.

I'll help you and offer a very easy way to clear it all up.
Is 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 owner :
- You
- Coinbase
- SWC

(hint, from what you said before, 3rd one is the one)


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 01:31:47 AM
I think there is a misunderstanding here. I dont have those 2 btcs anymore, i withdrew those 2 btcs last night and sold them to coinbase. I dont know what you are asking me to do? I cant get those 2 btc back, or am i missing something here

Yeah, very messy here.

I'll help you and offer a very easy way to clear it all up.
Is 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 owner :
- You
- Coinbase
- SWC

(hint, from what you said before, 3rd one is the one)


1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 in my SWC deposit address.

this shows my deposit and then withdraw: http://imgur.com/hfN1920

this shows my SWC deposit address: http://imgur.com/9v7UrbA


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: Kouye on September 26, 2013, 01:39:24 AM
1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 in my SWC deposit address

I think there is a misunderstanding here. I dont have those 2 btcs anymore, i withdrew those 2 btcs last night and sold them to coinbase. I dont know what you are asking me to do? I cant get those 2 btc back, or am i missing something here

Honestly, I never used coinbase nor SWC, so I'm lost here.
Just looking at your SWC account and wondering why 2 BTC still are unspent, and did not make it to coinbase.


Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 01:46:57 AM
1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 in my SWC deposit address

I think there is a misunderstanding here. I dont have those 2 btcs anymore, i withdrew those 2 btcs last night and sold them to coinbase. I dont know what you are asking me to do? I cant get those 2 btc back, or am i missing something here

Honestly, I never used coinbase nor SWC, so I'm lost here.
Just looking at your SWC account and wondering why 2 BTC still are unspent, and did not make it to coinbase.

I am as confused as you, if not more lol. all I know is that I did make the 2btc deposit to my SWC deposit address 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 and a did a 2 btc withdraw into my coinbase acct 1Np1RYRjN4fZzMYuLq3t8pMRjuNrHpBXxc a few days later.

I dont know why it shows 2 btc final balance at 1BDvV1EdyamrHhrDwZQpLdKrESwTuGLqZ1 address. Rest assured if i had access to 2 more btc i wouldnt need the loan but I deposited 2 btc, played for a dew days, and withdrew the original 2 btc leaving me with only a little left on SWC.



Title: Re: 1.5 btc loan until october 3rd
Post by: sootedtho on September 26, 2013, 09:35:22 PM
Still in need of this. Would need asap as I have payed for the car repairs but leaves my completely broke until the 2nd:(