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Title: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: mangox on September 26, 2013, 08:39:10 AM
HELSINKI: The humble toaster could become a security threat in the future due to the virtual currency Bitcoin.
For the uninitiated, Bitcoins are a cryptography-based digital currency, which allows users to send and receive money with a degree of anonymity without using traditional commerce networks, in effect cutting out middlemen such as banks. Many governments are also wary of their use as Bitcoin value is determined separately from them. Their uptake has rocketed over the past few years.
While hanging out in Helsinki with F-Secure, the firm's chief research officer Mikko Hypponen, never one to mince his words, said that the increasing value of Bitcoins is enticing criminal gangs to rework traditional malware targeting businesses to turn infected machines into Bitcoin mines.
Bitcoin mining refers to the way Bitcoins are actually earned. In a normal situation, a user runs an algorithm  on their computer to authenticate transactions on the Bitcoin platform. This is legal and the person running the process is rewarded with Bitcoins for their trouble. However, turning hoards of machines into your own army to generate huge numbers of Bitcoins is not. As such the crooks love it, as Hypponen explained.
"Bitcoins have been skyrocketing in value. At the moment the value per Bitcoin is currently $134. As this started happening and people started realising there's actual money in Bitcoin, people started mining them pretty seriously," he said.
"A big deal about crypto currency [such as Bitcoin] is the mining part. You can actually use other computers to mine and because of this, botnet-based mining is becoming a real problem. About a year ago we spotted a botnet not spreading malware or phishing, it was just mining bitcoins."
Hypponen went on to explain that Bitcoins' financial allure has already made established cyber criminals rethink their strategies and adapt some of the biggest, most dangerous botnets in the world to mine Bitcoins.
"ZeroAccess used to monetise itself with click fraud. They got on the machine and made it click on adverts to earn money. They changed their tactic in spring and went fully into Bitcoin mining. Some of our estimates suggest it is earning $58,000 a day. That's real money and something they will want to move to the real world," he said.
This is where the toaster idea comes in. Hypponen added that many of the gangs are so enthralled by Bitcoin's potential they've started experimenting with the idea of turning non-traditional devices into mines.
"[When mining Bitcoins] the user is irrelevant, it's the GPU, the computer and the network connection they need. This is especially interesting when you look at automation. I have a pebble watch, it has a GPU, it could mine Bitcoins, so does my fridge and my toaster – these are going to be used to mine Bitcoins," he said.
"We accepted toasters would eventually have computers, but didn't think it would be a problem – who would want to write malware for a toaster right? Well now they have a reason."
This may be a far-fetched example of how far the threat could go, but as recent hacks of IP-based lightbulbs have shown, the home of the future could be open to all kinds of attacks, even burnt toast.

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/the-frontline-blog/2296670/hackers-could-turn-toasters-into-bitcoin-mines-as-value-rockets


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: Lethn on September 26, 2013, 10:14:46 AM
Oh for fucks sake, what are they going to say next? Battlefield 4 is being used by Bitcoin users for military exercises? You can use a playstation controller to operate a deactivated tank so therefore it's a security risk? BAN COOKING POTS!!!


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: Kluge on September 26, 2013, 12:56:33 PM
... It doesn't appear to be a gag site. There goes F-Secure's credibility right down the shitter, with a "chief research officer" like that.

"'I have a pebble watch, it has a GPU, it could mine Bitcoins, so does my fridge and my toaster – these are going to be used to mine Bitcoins,' he said."


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: b!z on September 26, 2013, 02:41:47 PM
... It doesn't appear to be a gag site. There goes F-Secure's credibility right down the shitter, with a "chief research officer" like that.

"'I have a pebble watch, it has a GPU, it could mine Bitcoins, so does my fridge and my toaster – these are going to be used to mine Bitcoins,' he said."

implying F-Secure ever had any credibility


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 26, 2013, 05:19:38 PM
http://mishuna.image.pbase.com/u7/erichmangl/upload/1057630.iedbuttoaster.gif http://www.burntimpressions.com/assets/images/toast/butterfly.jpg


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 26, 2013, 05:24:04 PM
I think I need a filmware update for my miner.

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/money-toaster-8337354.jpg


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 26, 2013, 05:28:33 PM
Just to prove that Bruce Wagner still reads this forum...

http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/1x3117245/man_sitting_cross_legged_on_top_of_washing_machine_in_launderette_using_laptop_computer_PBC13014.jpg
"Mr. Gel--come here--I want to see you."

http://media.coindesk.com/2013/07/bitwasher-300x185.jpeg


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 26, 2013, 05:48:43 PM
The Brødrister being...wait for it...burned in.

http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/images/netbsd_toaster.jpg

Meanwhile, outside ToastCoin's headquarter, people are lining up to fill out applications, all hoping to be the new COO.

http://www.fotomundo.net/Galleries/Cube/Fun_City/ringling_bros_clowns_std.jpg


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: lightfoot on September 26, 2013, 05:52:17 PM
Actually I wonder if I could build a toaster out of block erupters. Mount them so the plates face the toast on both sides, plug in, and mine.

Ties into my new line of bitcoin space heaters, ovens, and hot water tanks. :-)


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: b!z on September 28, 2013, 06:49:12 AM
Actually I wonder if I could build a toaster out of block erupters. Mount them so the plates face the toast on both sides, plug in, and mine.

Ties into my new line of bitcoin space heaters, ovens, and hot water tanks. :-)

maybe that's what the authors were actually writing about...


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: Wipeout2097 on September 28, 2013, 09:46:24 PM
I suspect plenty of you focus too much on the title and barely looked at the article :P


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: peapodamus on September 28, 2013, 11:02:55 PM
Oh mah gosh! MAH ALARM CLOCK IS MININ' BITCOIN! RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: b!z on September 29, 2013, 05:26:37 AM
Oh mah gosh! MAH ALARM CLOCK IS MININ' BITCOIN! RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

Welcome to my ignore list.


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: film2240 on September 29, 2013, 09:25:36 PM
Wait a minute?Toasters can be smart like smartphones (and soon to be built DIY NAS) and can therefore be used as BTC miners? Wow. :)


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: Heutenamos on September 29, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
I didnt hear so far about botnet or malware taking over ASIC minners. The owner will notice quickly the miner doesnt generate him BTC :)


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: xsfgsdrwe on September 30, 2013, 12:57:32 AM
If toasters can mine just imagine what my hot tube can do! I'll brb, going back in time real quick.


Title: Re: Hackers could turn toasters into Bitcoin mines as value rockets
Post by: b!z on September 30, 2013, 05:44:28 AM
I didnt hear so far about botnet or malware taking over ASIC minners. The owner will notice quickly the miner doesnt generate him BTC :)

setting up miners takes a lot more tech knowledge than buying BTC usually, so owners should know a bit about security