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Economy => Marketplace => Topic started by: nelisky on January 28, 2011, 04:19:54 AM



Title: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on January 28, 2011, 04:19:54 AM
Ever heard of the One Laptop Per Child (http://one.laptop.org/ (http://one.laptop.org/)) initiative? Well, once upon a time I did some work for them and got my hands on a few hardware test samples used to develop some software.

I'm now selling these for bitcoins, if anyone is interested. I'll start with the oldest one, hardware version B2-1 (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_B2 (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_B2)). I will recharge the battery to make sure it still has enough juice in it, and will  install the latest supported firmware and operating system build.

I'll also clean it up and take some pictures if there is some real interest in buying it. No base price, no reserve but also no obligation to sell :) This is not an auction, it's a 'make me an offer' thread.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: MoonShadow on January 28, 2011, 04:44:27 AM
I considered buying one of these for my kids when they were new.  Could it run a bitcoin client.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on January 28, 2011, 04:59:07 AM
I considered buying one of these for my kids when they were new.  Could it run a bitcoin client.

I don't see why not. This particular hardware revision is somewhat constrained in memory, but I'm sure at least the bitcoind variant it will have no trouble handling. It runs quake, so... :)

My kids had a blast with these for a while, but these little machines and the sugar interface are not made to match PC / windoze users expectancies, so they grew tired. I'm a hacker by heart and trade (the good sense of hacker, mind you), so these machines served as photo frames, audio distribution clients, icecast servers, test servers, etc. But the really amazing thing about these is the screen, as it is both a normal backlit color lcd screen but also, if you turn brightness fully down, a reflective high resolution grayscale screen, perfect for outdoor usage in direct sunlight and great for ebook reading (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display#Understanding_the_display_system (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display#Understanding_the_display_system)).

And the cherry on top is twofold; mesh network (which you won't be using unless you have the right adapter or multiple XO's) and very low power consumption (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_power_draw (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_power_draw)). It was very well designed, too bad politics moved this whole thing into the wrong direction, imho.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on January 29, 2011, 02:38:15 AM
An update on running bitcoin in these laptops; you can't (easily) with B2 hardware, not without doing your own firmware. The latest supported build is based on fedora 7 which doesn't have the needed libs up to date to run bitcoin.

However I have it running on another XO, this time a B4 revision (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_B4 (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_B4)) and with the caveat that you need the .bitcoin dir to live out of the system flash, due to some issues with mmap and jffs2, and if you ignore the fact the screen is too small for the GUI (you can't see the number of blocks), it does run perfect there.

In fact, deploying a 'Bitcoin Activity' (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities))should be pretty straightforward... A little python, a little gtk... hmmm. Anyway, I diverge. I could not upload pictures because the upload folder for the forum is apparently full, any good anonymous photo sharing site you know of?

I am now selling both the B2 and the B4, if anyone is interested. I have not yet received a single offer.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on January 29, 2011, 03:21:00 AM
How does 60 BTC sound for the B2?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on January 29, 2011, 03:41:16 AM
How does 60 BTC sound for the B2?

Well, it is the best offer so far ;) Remember you are in the States (or so I assume) and I'm in Europe, so I'll be paying some $33 (75 BTC) for shipping, which I obviously can't cover based on your offer.

FYI, for Europe I'll pay ~$15, or 34 BTC, if anyone on this side of the pond wants to make an offer too.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on January 29, 2011, 03:45:21 AM
Hm, I see. Well, my final offer is 125 BTC. Spare me a day or two to collect the BTC. ; )


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on January 29, 2011, 03:59:13 AM
Hm, I see. Well, my final offer is 125 BTC. Spare me a day or two to collect the BTC. ; )

As you may imagine, the offer is not so attractive I'll immediately close the deal, so take your time, collect those precious coins. I understand shipping is quite high, but it is the cheapest I could find, and I'm not even sending it registered, which is probably wise to do.

Also, I don't know how customs works for the US, but if it was the other way around I'd expect some taxes collected on arrival, just saying.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Cryptoman on January 29, 2011, 05:41:22 AM
Also, I don't know how customs works for the US, but if it was the other way around I'd expect some taxes collected on arrival, just saying.

Just put "child's toy, gift" on the customs declaration.  That's how most of the stuff I order from China manages to get to me without customs duty.  ;D


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 12:26:04 AM
Do I hear 150 back there? That lady in the red dress behind the funny looking penguin with a super hero cape? No?

Ok, 125 going once...


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 01:01:41 AM
how about 127, including delivery within europe?

Thanks.

You lead with that offer. 127 for the B2 shipped within Europe.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 01, 2011, 01:16:34 AM
210 BTC for the B4


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 01:50:12 AM
You lead with that offer.

what have i done ... (but my bit is valid. man should stand by his past actions)

Heh, I won't take it too hard if you retract your offer at any time until we agree to close the deal. I understand the bitcoin economy is small and volatile still, which is one of the reasons I don't think auctions work well right now.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 01:51:41 AM
210 BTC for the B4

Current bids:
B4 - Atlas @ 210
B2 - ptmhd @ 127


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: rebuilder on February 01, 2011, 09:26:36 AM
220 for B4 with shipping , am located in EU.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 12:20:54 PM
if it's okay with  you, i'd rather cancel my offer/bid
i'm passionate collector and already have 4x 12" apple iBooks  (all of them ca 5-6 yrs old), one old ibm thinkpad
and a kinda new laptop (finally needed moo power for work) si you might understand myy craving for new toys
with cpu but if i bid next time, it will be serous.

i could send you the 2 BTC as sorry.

No need to be (or send) sorry, it is just fair that as I mention in the OP I can choose to not close whatever deal, the same goes for bidders. As long as we haven't come to an agreement, no shaking of hands is done.

You did bring the thread back to life, so thank YOU!


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 12:22:11 PM
220 for B4 with shipping , am located in EU.

B2 - no bids
B4 - rebuilder @ 220


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 01, 2011, 02:14:31 PM
155 for the B2


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 02:26:46 PM
155 for the B2

B2 - Atlas @ 155 (Feb 1)
B4 - rebuilder @ 220 (Feb 1)



Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: rebuilder on February 01, 2011, 03:56:49 PM
Interesting times to be making purchases in BTC, considering the conversion rate spikes lately. Nothing to do with my bid of course, just an observation.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 01, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
I really doubt they are real. It will go back to the mid-40s soon enough. If this holds true, I might have to retract my offer.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 04:12:04 PM
I really doubt they are real. It will go back to the mid-40s soon enough. If this holds true, I might have to retract my offer.

We will, eventually, think of prices in terms of bitcoins and not the other lesser currencies counterparts. I do need to pay for shipping in euros, so I don't want to sell for a price where I end up paying to sell, but other than that I want bitcoins. Of course I assume coins will increase in value, but I'm pretty sure we'll see both parity and back to <0.4 in the near future, so if your decision is based on the spot btc/$ index, you are in for a ride ;)

But because I understand the times are very volatile, let me hit the hammer once on the current bids... I can't promise an exact time to end this, but I'll try to keep it below 24h after the latest bid.

So... going once...


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 09:35:12 PM
Quote
B2 - Atlas @ 155 (Feb 1)
B4 - rebuilder @ 220 (Feb 1)

Going twice...

We have been seeing a huge increase in the value of bitcoins, and while it might be short lived, no one can really do more than guess.  So 3 options I see:
- If you guys want to review your offers down I won't mind, though I do believe that they are still fair for both sides.
- Another option is to take the current high value of bitcoins as leverage to close the deal. The 24hr average is now on .65, so if it doesn't fall under .60 and you keep your bids, I'll be happy to close the deal right now.
- We can just wait this volatile period out.

What say you?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: rebuilder on February 01, 2011, 10:17:42 PM
220 is an OK price IMO. This spike is due to speculation, I'm not interested in that. I expect the USD/BTC price to fall to 0.55-0.6 or thereabouts quiet soon, anyway. Close the auction on the B4 if you don't want to wait for further bids and PM me so we can work out the details.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 01, 2011, 10:23:15 PM
220 is an OK price IMO. This spike is due to speculation, I'm not interested in that. I expect the USD/BTC price to fall to 0.55-0.6 or thereabouts quiet soon, anyway. Close the auction on the B4 if you don't want to wait for further bids and PM me so we can work out the details.

Yep, I feel the same way. There's some resistance @ .55 but that is all that prevents prices from going back to <0.5. Or course the market may prove me wrong (I hope so :) ).

If you don't mind, I still have a few hours of work ahead of me, so if no other bids appear before I finish, I'll close the B4 deal with you. If you want me to close right now I can too, it is a fair price.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 01, 2011, 10:32:35 PM
I'll be happy to close with you once the price settles. .55/BTC isn't bad.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 02, 2011, 02:57:25 AM
220 is an OK price IMO. This spike is due to speculation, I'm not interested in that. I expect the USD/BTC price to fall to 0.55-0.6 or thereabouts quiet soon, anyway. Close the auction on the B4 if you don't want to wait for further bids and PM me so we can work out the details.

Ok, B4 is off market, rebuilder takes it for 220 coins.

I am unable to send you a PM, the forum software keeps telling me I'm leaving the body empty for some reason. PM me an email address so we can make the needed arrangements.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 02, 2011, 08:10:20 PM
I'll be happy to close with you once the price settles. .55/BTC isn't bad.

Not sure I understand here, Atlas... you mean you'll be ok to close the deal @ 155 for the B2 if/when prices settle at .55? You are alone in the bidding for this laptop, so I'm certainly ok with waiting, I just want to be clear as to what your bid and conditions are.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 02, 2011, 08:19:47 PM
I am going to have to lower my offer to 135 BTC due to this deflation.

I will need less than 3 days from now to collect the BTC, if you don't mind.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 02, 2011, 08:28:13 PM
I am going to have to lower my offer to 135 BTC due to this deflation.

I will need less than 3 days from now to collect the BTC, if you don't mind.

B2 - Atlas @ 135 (Feb 2)
B4 - sold to rebuilder

As I said, I'm perfectly ok with waiting, but since the deal isn't close if someone outbids you and wants prompt delivery I may just take it. Again, you are alone bidding so you should be safe :)


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2011, 05:45:10 PM
I had to loan my cousin money. Lowering to 90 BTC. Close whenever you would prefer.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 03, 2011, 06:32:08 PM
I had to loan my cousin money. Lowering to 90 BTC. Close whenever you would prefer.

This has got to be the strangest bid sequence I've seen in a while :) I'm not selling it at that price, not with the shipping included, so feel free to retract or bid up at your leisure.

No hurries, though.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: kiba on February 03, 2011, 06:36:17 PM
I had to loan my cousin money. Lowering to 90 BTC. Close whenever you would prefer.

I am sure he will ask you for more loans.  ;)


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2011, 07:08:19 PM
Haha, it's been a pleasure. Well, I won't go higher than 100 BTC.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Pegasus-Rider on February 03, 2011, 07:35:11 PM
I'm interested what's the minimal cost of an XO, shipping to Russia included (Moscow or Saint-Petersburg will do)?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 03, 2011, 07:46:19 PM
I'm interested what's the minimal cost of an XO, shipping to Russia included (Moscow or Saint-Petersburg will do)?

Make me an offer, all bids in thread are inclusive of shipping. Just make sure you understand the XO currently on sale is a B2 version (see first post for links to specs) which, having only 256MB ram can't use newest sugar builds. It still works fine, though.

I have one more, C1 version (first mass production, the ones on the "give one, get one" initiative) but I'm not sure I want to sell it. You are free to make me an offer on this one too, of course.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2011, 07:49:31 PM
Are you willing to be paid in silver, Nelisky?

...with a mixture of Bitcoins of course.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Anonymous on February 03, 2011, 08:38:45 PM
Look, I apologize for being silly. I retract. Thank you for your time.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 03, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
Look, I apologize for being silly. I retract. Thank you for your time.

Be silly all you want, I don't mind ;)

B2 is open for offers, please form a single line!


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: AtticusHardenCourt on February 03, 2011, 08:56:37 PM
Now, you say you are in Europe. How much in BTC for shipment to the US?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 03, 2011, 09:02:45 PM
Now, you say you are in Europe. How much in BTC for shipment to the US?

US ~$33, EUR ~$15. Add $5 if registered. If you make your bids in bitcoins including shipping, I'll be sure to compare taking the destination in consideration.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: AtticusHardenCourt on February 03, 2011, 09:07:08 PM
May I get pictures of the unit?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Pegasus-Rider on February 04, 2011, 08:26:02 AM
500 BTC for shipping in 5 days (Moscow) or 7 days (Petersburg).


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 04, 2011, 02:08:00 PM
500 BTC for shipping in 5 days (Moscow) or 7 days (Petersburg).

Could you elaborate? What are you bidding on, and the time you mention is time for the package to arrive or date you want it sent?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Pegasus-Rider on February 04, 2011, 10:59:28 PM
Any XO that arrives at either capital by 9th would qualify, if it takes longer to ship, I want something more recent.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 05, 2011, 12:25:15 AM
Any XO that arrives at either capital by 9th would qualify, if it takes longer to ship, I want something more recent.

WTF is the problem with Russia? UPS simply refuses to ship there (from my city, at least) and most others charge more than 500 btc for a 4 day guaranteed delivery... damn.

Anyway, I will only sell the B2 (because I decided to keep the C1 and the B4 has been sold). If you are interested in being slightly more open towards the delivery date, my country's postal office does provide a 3 work day option for Europe, so if I was to ship it Monday, you'd get it at most by Thursday, the 10th. Or so they say...

I will need to provide a description for customs, you tell me what I should put there so you don't have to pay tax on it.

Finally, I will require payment ahead of shipment, but ask around, I believe I'm well trusted ;)

If you want to go ahead and close this deal send me a PM with your address.

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Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Pegasus-Rider on February 05, 2011, 11:00:06 AM
So, well...
I'd pay 500 BTC for an XO that ships by 9th, and you return 50 BTC for each day I don't have my hands on it, starting from 10.02. Deal?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 05, 2011, 11:25:16 AM
So, well...
I'd pay 500 BTC for an XO that ships by 9th, and you return 50 BTC for each day I don't have my hands on it, starting from 10.02. Deal?

Sounds fair, if you agree that if it gets caught at customs (which here can add two weeks to the delivery) you count the date it reached customs, not actual delivery. You'll only know that after you receive the package, but tracking may provide information.

Also, if the delay is too big, lets set up a minimum amount I'll get, so you don't get it for free AND I end up paying on top of that :) Just throw a number.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: Pegasus-Rider on February 05, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
250 BTC minimum is quite fair I guess because I need it fast :-)


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 05, 2011, 07:48:56 PM
250 BTC minimum is quite fair I guess because I need it fast :-)

More than fair. Send me you address, I'll send you mine.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on February 06, 2011, 06:55:10 PM
250 BTC minimum is quite fair I guess because I need it fast :-)

I've sent you the payment address. If I receive payment on time I'll send the XO first thing tomorrow.

Thanks!


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on April 21, 2011, 01:39:13 PM
250 BTC minimum is quite fair I guess because I need it fast :-)

I've sent you the payment address. If I receive payment on time I'll send the XO first thing tomorrow.

Thanks!

I'm guessing 2 months is long enough to assume that Pegasus-Rider is no longer interested :)

B2 up for sale again, also have a C1 up for grabs now, make your bids.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: BitterTea on April 21, 2011, 01:59:37 PM
I'll offer 125 BTC, shipped to the US, for the C1.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on April 21, 2011, 02:02:42 PM
I'll offer 100 BTC + shipping for the C1.

Thanks for the offer. Where are you located?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: BitterTea on April 21, 2011, 02:12:26 PM
Heh, I modified the offer to include shipping, for easier bidding. I'm in Missouri, US.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on April 21, 2011, 05:56:29 PM
Heh, I modified the offer to include shipping, for easier bidding. I'm in Missouri, US.

Right, I'm inclined to accept, but since I will not be able to ship it before next wednesday, I just realized, lets postpone the deal until then. Also remember I'm sending from Europe, meaning you may get customs charge you whatever fee, dunno how that goes with US imports, but I do know that here I get charged extra 9 out of 10 times.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: graingert on April 21, 2011, 08:10:58 PM
I am in the UK and tempted what ones do you have left?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on April 21, 2011, 08:17:08 PM
I am in the UK and tempted what ones do you have left?

Nothing finalized yet, so both the B2 and the C1.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on April 26, 2011, 08:45:17 PM
And I'm back. Any more offers?

BitterTea, given the exchange rate I need to ask, is your offer still valid?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: BitterTea on April 29, 2011, 02:16:13 AM
I'm going to retract my bid for now, given the massive fluctuation recently.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on April 29, 2011, 04:42:56 PM
I'm going to retract my bid for now, given the massive fluctuation recently.

That's fair, although bar for the shipping costs, there is no need for correlation between bitcoins and dollars on this deal. How much is the XO worth to you... in bitcoins? ;)

But I get it, we need to think in terms of what we are used to, and that will be USD or EUR or whatever, so here's a reverse proposal:

C1 - 60 coins - sold
B2 - 35 coins

plus shipping: 10 coins to europe, 16 for US.

Offer valid for today, first come, first served. Equipment shipped on Monday.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: BitterTea on April 29, 2011, 05:14:54 PM
It's difficult to think of prices in terms of BTC, due to a few factors...

All of my expenses are denominated in USD.
The psychological issue of "delayed overpayment". What happens if the exchange rate settles at $100/BTC, well that just means I paid $70000 for a OLPC! :)

Anyway, let's do it. I'll take that C1 for 76 BTC shipped. I'll PM you my details.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nelisky on August 06, 2011, 06:31:36 PM
Bumping up a really old thread :)

I have a C1 and a B2 to sell, I decided to dump all I have now... They both work very well, the C1 looks new, the B2, well, its good but has some glue from old stickers and the like.

Any interest?


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: drawoc on August 06, 2011, 07:31:16 PM
Not interested in bidding, but if you're still looking for anonymous image hosting, Imgur (http://imgur.com) is pretty good.


Title: Re: OLPC XO laptop
Post by: nhodges on September 09, 2011, 04:39:19 AM
Bumping up a really old thread :)

I have a C1 and a B2 to sell, I decided to dump all I have now... They both work very well, the C1 looks new, the B2, well, its good but has some glue from old stickers and the like.

Any interest?

As I said in the other thread, how much? :)