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Title: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: Tronlet on July 19, 2011, 08:28:38 PM
When asking for advice on a rig in other areas, I was told that if I was planning on running the video card 24/7 100%, like for bitcoin mining, I should definitely get an XFX 6950 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150524) as opposed to the Sapphire 6950 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102949) I was planning on getting, because it would have a lifetime warranty if I bust it mining, and is also more sturdy overall.

This seems like solid advice, but I got it from people who knew a lot about computer rigs, but not as much about bitcoin mining, just that it meant running the card constantly on full. Does anyone here know if XFX has lower/higher Mhash/s, or if it just wouldn't matter as long as they had the same specs? Sapphire 6950 will supposedly have about 360 Mhash/s.

Thanks in advance. :)


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: cicada on July 19, 2011, 09:11:23 PM
Performance should be basically identical, they both started from AMD reference designs and likely didn't muck with anything but PCB positioning and the BIOS.

XFX does have a great warranty, and from what I've read they're pretty relaxed about replacing pebkac issues like hosing the BIOS (at least in North America)

I have 4 of the XFX cards and get ~360mh/s like you mentioned of the Sapphires, so that's probably proof enough.

I have a couple of Sapphire 5830s that are solid cards as well, both manufacturers seem to have their siht together.

For me (if i buy more cards anyway) it comes down to this:

$ / performance
Warranty
Cooler design

The ideal card for me in that case is an XFX 6950 with a standard turbine fan cooler (sucks air in the rear of the card, blows out the back of your case).  Unfortunately that card doesn't exist - virtually all of the 1GB 6950's use multi-fan or blow-everywhere style coolers.  Several of the 2GB models do, but the extra VRAM isn't worthwhile for mining.



Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: Tronlet on July 19, 2011, 09:14:54 PM
Thanks a ton, I wasn't expecting to hear from someone who actually owned the card. Do you have an address I could send 0.1 bitcoin or so to?


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: deslok on July 19, 2011, 09:15:16 PM
I've never had problems with sapphire cards and they do overclock easily. That being said with no reviews for that particular card and many positive ones for the xfx I would buy the xfx.


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: Tronlet on July 19, 2011, 09:16:53 PM
I've never had problems with sapphire cards and they do overclock easily. That being said with no reviews for that particular card and many positive ones for the xfx I would buy the xfx.
Thanks too. :) tipped a dollar's worth in bitcoin. (.07)


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: cicada on July 19, 2011, 09:30:04 PM
Thanks a ton, I wasn't expecting to hear from someone who actually owned the card. Do you have an address I could send 0.1 bitcoin or so to?

People here are so generous :)

Added to my sig. since I keep getting asked for it ;)


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: Tronlet on July 19, 2011, 10:22:59 PM
Tipped! Thanks again :)


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: m3sSh3aD on July 20, 2011, 01:02:22 AM
My experience with XFX is that they are rubbish. Well my 5870's are. Cant volt mod non reference designs where sapphire have trixx, there own overclocking program :) Easy winner.

And 5850 is better than 6950 and 6970. If you get the right 5850 its even better than the 5870's. Why? new 6 series as less stream processors, uses more power and generates less coins due to these factors. 5 series is WAY better than 6 series. By a fair distance. A new revision of shapphires xtreme cards do 1015/300 at clock volts. Trix wont volt mod this YET! that 420mhash if you were wondering with phatk kernal.

I hear 5 series is a rareity in the US though....


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: Tronlet on July 20, 2011, 08:06:43 AM
My experience with XFX is that they are rubbish. Well my 5870's are. Cant volt mod non reference designs where sapphire have trixx, there own overclocking program :) Easy winner.
I might agree with you if I had any plans to do anything so complex. I'd probably break the thing. :P

I hear 5 series is a rareity in the US though....

Yeah, I tried pretty hard to find 5850s for a reasonable price that wouldn't cancel out the benefits.


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: Dargo on July 20, 2011, 02:32:27 PM
From what I've read on the forum, people prefer Sapphire over XFX because Sapphires clock better for mining. I've found this to be true as well. I have two 5850s, one XFX and one Sapphire. At stock voltage, the limit for the XFX card is about 925/425, while for the Sapphire the limit is about 950/300 (I actually haven't tried a lower memory clock on the Sapphire, but the XFX freezes when I try to clock it at 400). The Sapphire does about 375 Mh/s and 350 for the XFX. Not a huge difference, but significant. The difference is mitigated a little by the fact that the XFX will actually produce shares at a higher rate than the Sapphire at the same clock setting (and same Mh/s). It actually took me a little while to tune the Sapphire for a higher share rate than the XFX. But currently the Sapphire's share/hour rate is about 7% higher than the XFX. Also, the Sapphire has a much better cooler. So, going on my experience and what others have reported, I recommend Sapphire over XFX, but it isn't a huge difference IMO.


Title: Re: [Question] XFX 6950 better for mining than a Sapphire 6950?
Post by: deslok on July 20, 2011, 10:42:35 PM
I've never had problems with sapphire cards and they do overclock easily. That being said with no reviews for that particular card and many positive ones for the xfx I would buy the xfx.
Thanks too. :) tipped a dollar's worth in bitcoin. (.07)

thank you, sorry for the delay in that it took me a bit to figure out who did that :)