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Title: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on February 28, 2018, 12:58:30 PM
I think lending platform is something which attracts everyone, but far too often and really mean FAR TOO often; it is just not worth it. That is a lot to do with unsustainable rates and bad management.

That is where this thing appeals to me http://www.lavenir.io/ - It is the latest take on lending platform, but this time in a much greater way and in very much sustainable rates.

The ICO starting is very far with almost a month+ remaining, but since the y will give 30% bonus to investors who get in early during first 72 hours. So, thatís why I like to figure out whatís your take on this?

Is this going to be on your list of investment in months to come?


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Xynerise on February 28, 2018, 01:05:07 PM
Yet another crypto Ponzi scheme like Bitconnect,Davor, Regal coin and so on.
You know how they all ended up...


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: zenhu on February 28, 2018, 01:15:38 PM
Exactly mte, never ever put a money into a lending platform, dont even a single dime you give to that site. You know 99.99%lending platfor is ponzi scheme where newcomer money used to pay early member and so on. I dont believe there a trading bot that can give you a stable daily profit.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on February 28, 2018, 01:27:32 PM
Yet another crypto Ponzi scheme like Bitconnect,Davor, Regal coin and so on.
You know how they all ended up...

I know where they end up with. In fact, I had $200 on Bitconnect. However, there is a HUGE difference them and this and that's the rates. Did you checked the rates? It is fairly low and low far more sustainable. So, I think it will be UNFAIR to call to this Ponzi Scheme, as that got entirely different concept.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: lumeire on February 28, 2018, 01:32:30 PM
Lending platforms had huge reputation over failing in the past. You've got BTCJam and BitLendingClub, both of which started really strong, had their own systems of balancing their risks, but then descended towards bankruptcy after.

Wait it out IMO, let the platform build credibility on its own for a while. Once it has proved itself, you can go invest in. Just always have a plan for a way out.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: leea-1334 on February 28, 2018, 01:41:43 PM
Do not you feel it is plain irony that a platform talking about sustainable rates is offering an unsustainable 30% bonus to pre-sale investors? I know, I know, everyone tells me 30% is not the highest, but if you are talking about a lending platform, that 30% advantage is too big for early investors, who will of course be the only ones who will want to loan out money on this platform.

Lending is tricky, always has been. Interest bearing models are by definition unsustainable.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on February 28, 2018, 02:27:58 PM
Exactly mte, never ever put a money into a lending platform, dont even a single dime you give to that site. You know 99.99%lending platfor is ponzi scheme where newcomer money used to pay early member and so on. I dont believe there a trading bot that can give you a stable daily profit.

Unfortunately, there is hardly anyone here who is actually willing to understand what I said, as I completely understand what PONZI SCHEME is and what Lending platforms of past are, but this is DIFFERENT. It is only possible to work out what I said when you actually go through the site see and why I am high on it.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: hieu81 on February 28, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
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Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Xynerise on February 28, 2018, 02:41:14 PM
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Unfortunately, there is hardly anyone here who is actually willing to understand what I said, as I completely understand what PONZI SCHEME is and what Lending platforms of past are, but this is DIFFERENT. It is only possible to work out what I said when you actually go through the site see and why I am high on it.
The only reason why you can be "high on" a glaring Ponzi scheme is if you're one of the administrators or participants.
Which are you?


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on February 28, 2018, 02:51:17 PM
Wait it out IMO, let the platform build credibility on its own for a while. Once it has proved itself, you can go invest in.

I am bit opposite kind, as I am one of those who will get into skin of things before the time comes.

And like I mention, there is BIG reason for me to be interested now, which is nearly 30 days prior. It is because they offer bonus for FIRST 3 DAYS of 30%, so IF I invest, then I will do it in those 3 days or else not, so thatís why I need to figure out before that not when itís ON.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Lerikaweb on February 28, 2018, 03:27:56 PM
Another lending platform, all the same. Absolutely NO difference from dozens of existing platforms. Boring.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Pan Troglodytes on February 28, 2018, 03:53:12 PM
Yet another crypto Ponzi scheme like Bitconnect,Davor, Regal coin and so on.
You know how they all ended up...
True, I can't really imagine a crypto lending platform. How will you make people return the borrowed crypto? Even the credit card operators cannot achieve it and that is why they are recently simply disallowing crypto purchases with credit cards.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on February 28, 2018, 03:58:09 PM
Do not you feel it is plain irony that a platform talking about sustainable rates is offering an unsustainable 30% bonus to pre-sale investors? I know, I know, everyone tells me 30% is not the highest, but if you are talking about a lending platform, that 30% advantage is too big for early investors, who will of course be the only ones who will want to loan out money on this platform.

Lending is tricky, always has been. Interest bearing models are by definition unsustainable.

That is true but then surely you go to take the chances. Itís for 3 days only, I think any business requires some sort of pushing, so absolutely nothing is bit too hard to imagine. I think the image of lending is put up very badly, as people are addicted towards 40-50%, but this is very different.

Which is to do with the rates and then, it is to do with the structure. Before, anyone comments on this, it is BETTER to read out what I am saying instead of just labeling ďOH THIS IS ANOTHER OF THOSE LENDINGĒ.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: hasmukh_rawal on February 28, 2018, 04:07:36 PM
No, No and a complete No. I wouldn't bother to even read the article before saying not to invest in such platforms.
I am in the crypto market from quite a while now and from all the experience I have gained over this time I could definitely say that this lending platform is going to be the same as all the previous ones and will scam at the end. So its just a complete waste of time to even think of investing in such platforms.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on February 28, 2018, 04:13:20 PM
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I believe it is absolutely down to right choice. If we go for random stuff, then it will not be beneficial for ANYONE, so thatís why we MUST ensure that we make the right choice. If we do that then only we will be able to work out for our benefits. That is exactly why I feel this thing Lavenir is very likable project.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on February 28, 2018, 04:40:05 PM
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Unfortunately, there is hardly anyone here who is actually willing to understand what I said, as I completely understand what PONZI SCHEME is and what Lending platforms of past are, but this is DIFFERENT. It is only possible to work out what I said when you actually go through the site see and why I am high on it.
The only reason why you can be "high on" a glaring Ponzi scheme is if you're one of the administrators or participants.
Which are you?

If you go by that LOGIC, then I am the owner of majority of the ICOs running out, as I love to talk about the new ones, as I have portfolio with over 20-30 investments, so Itís my day to day thing to figure out which one got highest potential.

This is 30 days away from the sales, so want to know how people feel about this, as I repeat myself about that FIRST 3 days, as thatís where you get most benefit, so if I get in, I get in then and there.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: waorana on February 28, 2018, 04:59:28 PM
I recommend to stay away from the lending platform, the case of Bitconnect is a recent example that should make many people reflect. In most cases they are just scams that damage the cryptocurrency industry


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
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Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: coinmgnet on February 28, 2018, 05:03:29 PM
I think lending platform is something which attracts everyone, but far too often and really mean FAR TOO often; it is just not worth it. That is a lot to do with unsustainable rates and bad management.

That is where this thing appeals to me http://www.lavenir.io/ - It is the latest take on lending platform, but this time in a much greater way and in very much sustainable rates.

The ICO starting is very far with almost a month+ remaining, but since the y will give 30% bonus to investors who get in early during first 72 hours. So, thatís why I like to figure out whatís your take on this?

Is this going to be on your list of investment in months to come?

Whenever I see a Lending platform I simply run away from it. I can do my own investments.
I don't need to pay someone to give me a lower investment rather than what I could've gotten.
Bitconnect kinda proved what this type of platform truly are. NOT WORTH IT.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: chocopapaya on February 28, 2018, 05:09:35 PM
Are you seriously asking or are you shilling?

Lending platforms are pyramid ponzi schemes.
They just are.  It is the nature of the business.

Credit companies make money off of others losing money, that's how it is set up.
So even if a lending platform has "sustainable rates" the only way it can truly be sustainable is if more and more people borrow, and more and more people pay.
At this point, it just hasn't happened in crypto.

Also, on the ico side, be very suspicious of icos that offer huge bonuses or discounts.
While it may seem attractive for a quick flip.  Ultimately, in the long run, the most successful ICOs are those that have fair distribution that allows for a solid foundation to be made.
Yeah, a 5x profit might seem great, but if an ico truly succeeds you are looking 100 to 200x profit a couple months down the road.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: kipozer on February 28, 2018, 05:13:03 PM
As for loans in crypto-currencies, I honestly do not understand how this will work and how they will calculate the risks, because such a serious volatility today will not give an opportunity to earn the banks.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Kakabawa19471947 on February 28, 2018, 05:22:48 PM
i would never invest in lending platforms, even if that had most reasonable return rates, most state banks around the world are lending at 0.5 -3% APR around the world and banks still going burst, if a bank cant sustain a return rate of 0.5-3% not sure how random Ico can do that. mind you the rates im quoting are anual rates


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: meldrio1 on February 28, 2018, 05:27:17 PM
lending platforms mostly are scam just like bitconnect, many investors are cried because they invested their life savings they thought they are legit company, so stay away all lending platform ICOs.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: aintnopassincraze on February 28, 2018, 05:43:36 PM
Are you seriously asking or are you shilling?
Lending platforms are pyramid ponzi schemes.
They just are.  It is the nature of the business.
Not true imo, there can be legitimate ones but they are few out there. If the coin or token offers "guaranteed returns" then yes it is a ponzi scheme but a lending platform such as SALT that secures crypto against fiat, is a whole different story. Lets not lump them all into one category now, because people may think SALT is a ponzi when it is in fact not.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Wicked17 on February 28, 2018, 05:54:37 PM
I think lending platform is something which attracts everyone, but far too often and really mean FAR TOO often; it is just not worth it. That is a lot to do with unsustainable rates and bad management.

That is where this thing appeals to me http://www.lavenir.io/ - It is the latest take on lending platform, but this time in a much greater way and in very much sustainable rates.

The ICO starting is very far with almost a month+ remaining, but since the y will give 30% bonus to investors who get in early during first 72 hours. So, thatís why I like to figure out whatís your take on this?

Is this going to be on your list of investment in months to come?

A big no! I will never invest in a lending ICO which is a ponzi scheme type. Dont ever invest a single money in that ICO or else you will just lose your money just like in the past bitconnect scam coins. Better to find another ICO that is good and profitable for a long term goal than paying attention in a lending ICO


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: cryptomarijuana on February 28, 2018, 06:11:51 PM
If i were you i wont join any of these lending platform because to what happen to bitconnect scheme? people knows what will be the ending these type of website,we need to be more vigillant so that we wont lose a lot of money thru these businesses.A lot more people now are too doing researching that is why these platforms arent too profitable if you ask me.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on March 01, 2018, 03:11:19 AM
Another lending platform, all the same. Absolutely NO difference from dozens of existing platforms. Boring.

Are you serious? It is absolutely opposite to the ROUTINE lending platforms that I have seen, so I am not sure which site you have seen that is no different.

I am talking about this http://www.lavenir.io/ - I am not sure how this is NOT DIFFERENT!


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on March 01, 2018, 04:07:51 AM
Yet another crypto Ponzi scheme like Bitconnect,Davor, Regal coin and so on.
You know how they all ended up...
True, I can't really imagine a crypto lending platform. How will you make people return the borrowed crypto? Even the credit card operators cannot achieve it and that is why they are recently simply disallowing crypto purchases with credit cards.

No, No and a complete No. I wouldn't bother to even read the article before saying not to invest in such platforms.
I am in the crypto market from quite a while now and from all the experience I have gained over this time I could definitely say that this lending platform is going to be the same as all the previous ones and will scam at the end. So its just a complete waste of time to even think of investing in such platforms.

All I could say is that people have just put up wrong image of lending platforms after the Bitconnect fiasco, it is not hard to understand either, but comparing blindly everything to the routine lending platform is not just UNFAIR but is INCORRECT! I am repeating it so many times that LOOK HERE http://www.lavenir.io/ and FOR HAVENS explain me HOW IS THIS SIMILAR?


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: tangbori on March 01, 2018, 04:16:43 AM
This is another ponzi crypto like bitconnect, Davor and regacoin, if you are not new to crypto I think you know how they ended up. Therefore ponzi scheme is never and can never be sustainable because of the business model.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on March 01, 2018, 05:00:25 AM
I recommend to stay away from the lending platform, the case of Bitconnect is a recent example that should make many people reflect. In most cases they are just scams that damage the cryptocurrency industry

I think lending platform is something which attracts everyone, but far too often and really mean FAR TOO often; it is just not worth it. That is a lot to do with unsustainable rates and bad management.

That is where this thing appeals to me http://www.lavenir.io/ - It is the latest take on lending platform, but this time in a much greater way and in very much sustainable rates.

The ICO starting is very far with almost a month+ remaining, but since the y will give 30% bonus to investors who get in early during first 72 hours. So, thatís why I like to figure out whatís your take on this?

Is this going to be on your list of investment in months to come?

Whenever I see a Lending platform I simply run away from it. I can do my own investments.
I don't need to pay someone to give me a lower investment rather than what I could've gotten.
Bitconnect kinda proved what this type of platform truly are. NOT WORTH IT.

Are you seriously asking or are you shilling?

Lending platforms are pyramid ponzi schemes.
They just are.  It is the nature of the business.

Credit companies make money off of others losing money, that's how it is set up.
So even if a lending platform has "sustainable rates" the only way it can truly be sustainable is if more and more people borrow, and more and more people pay.
At this point, it just hasn't happened in crypto.

Also, on the ico side, be very suspicious of icos that offer huge bonuses or discounts.
While it may seem attractive for a quick flip.  Ultimately, in the long run, the most successful ICOs are those that have fair distribution that allows for a solid foundation to be made.
Yeah, a 5x profit might seem great, but if an ico truly succeeds you are looking 100 to 200x profit a couple months down the road.


This is the limit of certain things. I mean, how anyone in the world can label something without even looking at it? Itís not tough to know how people feel after the Bitconnect fiasco, but I too LOST but it doesnít mean end of the world! People are not even looking at what I am trying to point out. This is a VERY DIFFERENT KIND of lending platform, so if you still make comparison, then good luck!

As per Chocopapaya, I am well aware what PONZI SCHEME is, so please do not explain it to me. This thing Lavenir is NONE of that! I wonít say much else because you didnít bother looking at the site to understand my point.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Diablesfunis on March 01, 2018, 05:25:05 AM
Never invest into lending man, most of them are just a ponzi scheme and no way they can sustain that kind of interest with real trading activities like they always claim. Bitconnect is the best example for this, has a long life because a lot of people shill it but once they run with the money, a lot of people become victim of the scheme.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: carlisle1 on March 01, 2018, 05:29:59 AM
I think lending platform is something which attracts everyone, but far too often and really mean FAR TOO often; it is just not worth it. That is a lot to do with unsustainable rates and bad management.

That is where this thing appeals to me http://www.lavenir.io/ - It is the latest take on lending platform, but this time in a much greater way and in very much sustainable rates.

The ICO starting is very far with almost a month+ remaining, but since the y will give 30% bonus to investors who get in early during first 72 hours. So, thatís why I like to figure out whatís your take on this?

Is this going to be on your list of investment in months to come?
nice advertisement,i thiught this really mean to tackle about concerns of users who get from lending platform,but suddenly this happen to be another popularization of newly published token.i hate lendings they dont help people instead only drowning the people who ask help for them


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on March 01, 2018, 05:08:11 PM
i would never invest in lending platforms, even if that had most reasonable return rates, most state banks around the world are lending at 0.5 -3% APR around the world and banks still going burst, if a bank cant sustain a return rate of 0.5-3% not sure how random Ico can do that. mind you the rates im quoting are anual rates

I am not really going to get into comparison with bank here, as that altogether is different league and story. As per the rates, I think this is not exactly impossible to sustain if there is LOGICAL theory behind, but most of this is lacking with all the lending platform we see. This is where I PERSONALLY put this as DIFFERENT!


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on March 01, 2018, 05:11:42 PM
lending platforms mostly are scam just like bitconnect, many investors are cried because they invested their life savings they thought they are legit company, so stay away all lending platform ICOs.

This is the problem with PEOPLE. Till Bitconnect was running strong, every lending platform was GREAT and was WORTH investment, but since Bitconnect is no longer good, every lending platform now is BAD and not WORTH investment! This is what we call LACK OF VISION to see through specific deals. I canít really say much if you are comparing that to this. It will be like comparing apple to oranges.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: matsusomoto on March 01, 2018, 05:17:00 PM
I dont really understand why people are still investing with these lending programs,bitconnect scam was the biggest scam ever so people should know that these lending platforms are risky and potentials scams.People had been warned from the past but still joining these potentials scams? no researching could result into failure at the end.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on March 01, 2018, 06:58:43 PM
Are you seriously asking or are you shilling?
Lending platforms are pyramid ponzi schemes.
They just are.  It is the nature of the business.
Not true imo, there can be legitimate ones but they are few out there. If the coin or token offers "guaranteed returns" then yes it is a ponzi scheme but a lending platform such as SALT that secures crypto against fiat, is a whole different story. Lets not lump them all into one category now, because people may think SALT is a ponzi when it is in fact not.

This is what I am repeatedly trying to say that not every option is scam or Ponzi Scheme, so we Must judge everything on its own merit, as it is unfair to judge out on alone way. I have not seen a BETTER lending platform than this http://www.lavenir.io


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on March 01, 2018, 07:16:00 PM
Never invest into lending man, most of them are just a ponzi scheme and no way they can sustain that kind of interest with real trading activities like they always claim. Bitconnect is the best example for this, has a long life because a lot of people shill it but once they run with the money, a lot of people become victim of the scheme.

This is the thing I am trying to tell people that they donít need to invest into Ponzi scheme, this is NO PONZI SCHEME. Just visit this site here and tell me which part do you think is comparable to PONZI SCHEME? http://www.lavenir.io


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Rightchoice on March 01, 2018, 07:18:43 PM
I dont really understand why people are still investing with these lending programs,bitconnect scam was the biggest scam ever so people should know that these lending platforms are risky and potentials scams.People had been warned from the past but still joining these potentials scams? no researching could result into failure at the end.

There is nothing wrong with investment on this, as itís not PONZI SCHEME, which is to figure out once you open their website, but not otherwise. I find this option to really reach new heights, so I am certainly looking for at this.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: coinmgnet on March 01, 2018, 07:21:19 PM
I think lending platform is something which attracts everyone, but far too often and really mean FAR TOO often; it is just not worth it. That is a lot to do with unsustainable rates and bad management.

That is where this thing appeals to me http://www.lavenir.io/ - It is the latest take on lending platform, but this time in a much greater way and in very much sustainable rates.

The ICO starting is very far with almost a month+ remaining, but since the y will give 30% bonus to investors who get in early during first 72 hours. So, thatís why I like to figure out whatís your take on this?

Is this going to be on your list of investment in months to come?

I will never get why people are going twards lending platforms. Just by crypto with those money and you are good to go.
No need to give control to another person to your money.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: coinmgnet on March 01, 2018, 07:22:56 PM
Are you seriously asking or are you shilling?
Lending platforms are pyramid ponzi schemes.
They just are.  It is the nature of the business.
Not true imo, there can be legitimate ones but they are few out there. If the coin or token offers "guaranteed returns" then yes it is a ponzi scheme but a lending platform such as SALT that secures crypto against fiat, is a whole different story. Lets not lump them all into one category now, because people may think SALT is a ponzi when it is in fact not.

After what Bitconnect did, I hardly doubt anyone would ever wish to get close to a lending platform. And above all, lending platforms are popin' up like mushrooms after rain.
I think the investors will risk a lot by joinin lending platforms.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: Metarhorn on March 01, 2018, 07:53:30 PM
You should check platforms like Ethlend or some similar with collateralized lending.
https://ethlend.io/en/

You can say what is the point of that, but at least you should read what they have to offer.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: VanKleiss on March 01, 2018, 08:02:12 PM
I think lending platform is something which attracts everyone, but far too often and really mean FAR TOO often; it is just not worth it. That is a lot to do with unsustainable rates and bad management.

That is where this thing appeals to me http://www.lavenir.io/ - It is the latest take on lending platform, but this time in a much greater way and in very much sustainable rates.

The ICO starting is very far with almost a month+ remaining, but since the y will give 30% bonus to investors who get in early during first 72 hours. So, thatís why I like to figure out whatís your take on this?

Is this going to be on your list of investment in months to come?
Lending invetment is too risky considering that almost all lending ICO failed to deliver their promises. It is not also advisable to invest in lending on cryptocurrency because it is very volatile. Better invest on other altcoins that are stable and have a good value in the future.


Title: Re: Lending Platform - Is this sustainable rates?
Post by: crypt41259 on March 01, 2018, 08:14:03 PM
Wow, the FUD is strong here. I don't think it's fair to say this lending platform is a scam just because bitconnect exit scammed. Especially when the business model of this lending platform seems to be designed differently than that of bitconnect to make it more sustainable. And it's normal for ICOs to give bonus tokens to early investors isn't it? Every ICO has this kind of bonus to encourage more investors in the ICO. I've even seen some with as high as a 100% bonus. If a 30% bonus for early investments makes this a scam, then ALL ICOs are a scam. At the very least, this lending platform seems a lot less sketchy than most other lending platforms I've seen on the market.

And even if it does turn out to be a Ponzi... people who got out at the right time in bitconnect made a ton of money. Remember, their tokens started trading at around 50 cents and went all the way up to 400 dollars before shutting down. If you play it right, there's still potentially tons of money to be made.

Just thought I'd give my 2 cents on this.