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Title: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: denyfirmasyahputra on March 02, 2018, 02:20:23 PM
since bitcoin is popularized, of course many users have improved financially for the economy, although not everyone can now take advantage of it, but I think almost all users can benefit from bitcoin because of the knowledge factor even a few of those who have success from business bitcoin.
with the fact that we know that bitcoin is capable of improving individual economic users.

Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: tosmartak on March 02, 2018, 02:39:41 PM
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Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?
Yes, if the country decides to adopt the use of bitcoin, and if there is a larger population of bitcoin users in the country. Since, we are still in the early adoption phase, as far as I am concerned, it should contribute in the short and long term.

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and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?
Bitcoin functions already as a payment system and as an asset for those who want to hold, it is the adoption that counts, if it will have effect on the economy or not, or the future of bitcoin as a preferred global payment means which I am optimistic about.

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is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?
We already know that adoption helps a lot for the future development of any technology. Without high level of transaction, there would not have been a dire need for scaling. Legality on the other hand, should help create awareness and I have no problem with it. The earlier we have it, the better, since it is not like the government will end up staying quiet anyway.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: BrewMaster on March 02, 2018, 03:45:11 PM
individually speaking it depends on how one uses bitcoin. some people are acting more rational and they use their brains. and because of that they can make a very good amount of profit and as a result they can improve their finances a lot.
but not everyone is like that. some people are not so rational, they make weird decisions even. for example i know people who waited whole year last year to buy bitcoin and only did it when price was nearly $20,000 and sold while cursing everyone else at <$10k. so obviously their are ruining their finances!

speaking of a whole country it depends on how they are going to treat bitcoin. if they go on and ban it like Bangladesh then there won't be any merchants there accepting bitcoin, there will only be investors who do it underground and hidden. so only individual improvement is possible.
but if like at least 30 other countries including Japan, Germany, Australia, Switzerland,... they adopt bitcoin and consider it as a legal currency there can be a lot of new jobs created in their country and new jobs can put a lot of people to work and as a final total result it can improve the economy of the whole country.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: doedz on March 02, 2018, 05:18:03 PM
A kind of plague, a person gets rich from altcoin and bitcoin trade. at least some friends, neighbor, and relatives get a better economy. and can make extra money.
They already have a community and continue to grow to this day. I think it's good for the economy in my country.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: gakadem on March 02, 2018, 05:54:04 PM
currently bitcoin only benefits certain individuals only, because as you say not everyone can access bitcoin, because of certain factors.
legality is needed so that bitcoin can be used by all parties or groups. thus bitcoin will be useful for everyone.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: mrcash02 on March 02, 2018, 06:04:32 PM
Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

Of course it can. When individuals have more money on their hands to spend, they help to keep the economy in circulation. It's a prosperity looping circle that is built by the individual choices of each one. It means more profit for shops that consequently will make its owners spend more in another shops and hire more services.

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

Just let people enjoy their money, don't cut investor's profit, don't regulate it in a way the individual will have less money to spend.
Let the individual improves the country's economy by himself.

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

Adoption is surely needed, legality could help, but it will depend how this legality will be done by the local authorities of each country.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: xaviervilla on March 02, 2018, 06:34:58 PM
Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

Yes it does. The reason as to why is because it does not require a diploma or a degree to be able to invest, trade or to work for campaigns here in the forum. All that a person needs is a considerable knowledge on the English language and the determination to study hard as much as he can about crypto currencies. The right knowledge is the biggest asset or strength any person in the crypto world can have.

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and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

The country should open it's doors to the innovation that bitcoins can offer and widely spread real news about it instead of spreading fud. A free detailed course about it for everyone interested would also be great. in short, legality and adoption.

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is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

Yes it is. Because if people are hiding their assets and cannot use it because the government is not supporting it, people who will use it are going to decrease or if not, increase very slow. facilitation will require a huge amount of resources, but even so, they can gain it back easily and more with taxes. Which can really help improve the economy. That's pretty much it as far as I know.



Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Virtual miner on March 02, 2018, 06:56:53 PM
since bitcoin is popularized, of course many users have improved financially for the economy, although not everyone can now take advantage of it, but I think almost all users can benefit from bitcoin because of the knowledge factor even a few of those who have success from business bitcoin.
with the fact that we know that bitcoin is capable of improving individual economic users.

Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.
In my opinion, yes it's true that bitcoin has helped many people to gain an additional amount of wealth. Many people have taken advantages of the price fluctuations but there are yet another set of people who are unable to gain most out of the price fluctuations and have reaped losses thus running out of their finances.

So definetly proper market study and research may help the economy and add to its development. Methods that may help a country's economy to boost up may include initial steps by the government itself to legalization and spreading awareness among masses.

Legalization and adoption would prove to be fruitful in many a ways to the economy. Taxation regime can be built once bitcoin is legalized and it can go about to help the devel3of economy.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: MakLampir on March 02, 2018, 07:14:50 PM
Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

Of course it can. When individuals have more money on their hands to spend, they help to keep the economy in circulation. It's a prosperity looping circle that is built by the individual choices of each one. It means more profit for shops that consequently will make its owners spend more in another shops and hire more services.

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

Just let people enjoy their money, don't cut investor's profit, don't regulate it in a way the individual will have less money to spend.
Let the individual improves the country's economy by himself.

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

Adoption is surely needed, legality could help, but it will depend how this legality will be done by the local authorities of each country.
talking about legality, every country has its own rules, because there are countries that consider legal bitcoin as currency, some say legal bitcoin is used as payment system, but not recognized as a means of payment.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Kronos21 on March 02, 2018, 07:26:09 PM
Bitcoin can't save the falling economy of the country. The volume of the cryptocurrency market is much smaller than Fiat. Cryptocurrencies are not intended to lend to the modernization of enterprises. The positive effect of cryptocurrencies lies only in the fact that users can earn income outside of their country. This money will be exchanged for the national currency spent for everyday needs. This will warm up the demand a bit but there will be no serious effect for the economy.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: mrcash02 on March 02, 2018, 09:31:27 PM
Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

Of course it can. When individuals have more money on their hands to spend, they help to keep the economy in circulation. It's a prosperity looping circle that is built by the individual choices of each one. It means more profit for shops that consequently will make its owners spend more in another shops and hire more services.

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

Just let people enjoy their money, don't cut investor's profit, don't regulate it in a way the individual will have less money to spend.
Let the individual improves the country's economy by himself.

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

Adoption is surely needed, legality could help, but it will depend how this legality will be done by the local authorities of each country.
talking about legality, every country has its own rules, because there are countries that consider legal bitcoin as currency, some say legal bitcoin is used as payment system, but not recognized as a means of payment.

When Bitcoin is legal on the country it's because rules were defined about it by the authorities. But in most countries Bitcoin isn't legal or illegal, it's not recognized as means of payment, as you said, but people can still use it without problems, some people call it grey area, and it remains this way until regulations are defined towards the currency. In my opinion that is the best status Bitcoin can have (grey area).

Since the moment regulations are created and it becomes legalized, it doesn't mean only that people will have legitimacy to use the currency and that it will be easier and safer, but that they will have to follow a series of new rules and will have to pay new taxes, in many cases it just increases the bureaucracy and the abusive tributes, so it really depends how the legalization is done to say if it will improve Bitcoin's performance or not.



Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: dothebeats on March 02, 2018, 09:43:10 PM
Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

Yes, since the money would be handled by the government alone and would not be entrusted to a single central bank which would make matters worse, especially if the country is already in the midst of a massive hyperinflation.

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

Don't take people's money due to corruption. Encourage the people to build more businesses and only get the only necessary taxes in order for the people to get enticed on expanding his business. In that way, more money would come in to the economy and money circulation would be even better since the people has their own freedom to spend on things they want and need.

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

Absolutely, since a shaky stance on what is bitcoin could shatter things easily for those who rely heavily on the said crypto. Also, adoption plays a big role since if a lot of people use the same currency in a country, it helps stimulate the economy and get a good circulation of the money going.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: bitchubitchu on March 02, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
Bitcoin has a contribution to the economy of individuals.Some make bitcoin as their source of income,some make as investments and other makes it as an extra income.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Lovecove on March 02, 2018, 09:53:01 PM
I'm not really sure about your other questions, because i'm not too well-versed in economy... but from a theoretical perspective, if there's a struggling country that suddenly goes all-in on bitcoin and crypto, it could do absolute wonders for that country.

You'll suddenly have a whole country advertising safe haven for crypto investors. The country could enact governmental programs to fund crypto exchange startups, and bitcoin/crypto integration into commerce. Basically, you'd have a crypto-friendly nation that would attract crypto investors worldwide.

It's kind of like how the Swiss attract rich people to their banks because of their unique financial freedom.

So while the rest of the world is banning crypto exchanges, crypto mining, or otherwise just making it impossible for people to buy,sell,use, or trade crypto... you have this goldmine of a country that's opening its arms wide to the world and its crypto-friendly atmosphere.

The crypto exchange revenue alone would be enough to bump the country's ecosystem.

Again, I'm not well-versed in these matters, but they could also help crypto investors bypass their local ICO investing restrictions by acting as a mediator or some kind of loophole where the crypto investors are buying a 1:1 product from the country, but they also get ICO tokens from the ICO they're trying to invest in. <-- something like that, so it's like on the surface, they're buying a product and getting an ICO token as a bonus. When in reality it's the ICO token that the buyers really want :P

Now, I don't know about you, but if you're from the US or some country where ICO investing is banned... wouldn't you spend the extra 10% to purchase the country's product in order to get the ICO you want to invest in knowing that that ICO has a chance to 40x like all the others?

That kind of deal works so well for that country because they're suddenly selling a physical local product, while also probably charging some kind of handler's fee/tax for selling the ICO token (of course well-shielded into the fees/taxes price).

All these crypto programs could literally take a country out of poverty overnight with the upcoming crypto craze that we all know is going to happen.

Just think about Africa, and how their main income source is tourism... if a country adopts crypto like this, their main income source could be crypto.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: angaper on March 02, 2018, 10:51:37 PM


Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.

In reality, only a country with a declining economy such as Venezuela or Zimbabwe could aspire to obtain greater wealth through bitcoin, because at this time cryptocurrencies seem to exist outside the formal economy and governments with high institutionalization seem reluctant to incorporate cryptocurrencies into the formal economy.

And the experiments carried out by Venezuela in the field of cryptocurrencies seem to be aimed at failure.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: diva.man on March 02, 2018, 11:33:51 PM
People who own bitcoin use the BTC to reduce the impact of inflation. Venezuelans buy daily supplies from BTC because the local fiat money is bankrupt! The country responded to the economic crisis by issuing oil and gold COINS.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: jose111 on March 03, 2018, 02:46:13 AM
since bitcoin is popularized, of course many users have improved financially for the economy, although not everyone can now take advantage of it, but I think almost all users can benefit from bitcoin because of the knowledge factor even a few of those who have success from business bitcoin.
with the fact that we know that bitcoin is capable of improving individual economic users.

Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.

I think yes, bitcoin will be the big help to economy of a country. I believe that the best way of maximizing it is by having a massive adoption and governmental legalization therefore, all thru out people can have a full introduction and knowledge about it. Most probably it could be the best way to help improving the country's economy thru it's financial stability and to minimizing the volume of global crisis that they encountered .   


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Wexnident on March 03, 2018, 03:05:58 AM
since bitcoin is popularized, of course many users have improved financially for the economy, although not everyone can now take advantage of it, but I think almost all users can benefit from bitcoin because of the knowledge factor even a few of those who have success from business bitcoin.
with the fact that we know that bitcoin is capable of improving individual economic users.

Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.

Definitely yes, it makes a big contribution to ones economy especially thru its financial stability. It would be much productive when the government in one country was truly legalize and having mass adoption to this. It could be the best way for much improving and better development of economy. It lesser some global crisis that happen in the country like for example is., the unemployment status in the community and the importing or exporting transaction problem of one country to other country because of lack of financial cost. I think all of this will be set off if bitcoin was truly implement to the country. 


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: masterchief001 on March 03, 2018, 03:31:04 AM
Bitcoin has made a huge contribution to the economy and individuals. Bitcoin investment success will help the economy for each individual increase. Can people become rich millionaire or billionaire. A lot of people brilliant success thanks to bitcoin.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Notcalculator on March 03, 2018, 03:42:02 AM
since bitcoin is popularized, of course many users have improved financially for the economy, although not everyone can now take advantage of it, but I think almost all users can benefit from bitcoin because of the knowledge factor even a few of those who have success from business bitcoin.
with the fact that we know that bitcoin is capable of improving individual economic users.

Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.

1) Yes it could improve the economic condition of individuals. Not just through bitcoin itself, but the with the experience it bestows upon the users. Trading requires a lot of research on economy and its technology. The experience itself could be applied to almost anything else. Thus, giving the user an edge on other endeavors.

2) Im not yet sure if it could improve a "country". Probably a city. We're still at an early adoption phase, so you wont see effects that span in huge areas. But with enough concentration in a certain small spaces, it could be enough to improve that zone. Count the number of exchanges or bitcoin atm in your area, that would give you an approximation of bitcoins's contribution to your place.

3) Legality and adoption is needed to improve its performance, but it's not necessarily required. Bitcoin works perfectly right now but it could still be better.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Hydrogen on March 04, 2018, 11:27:11 PM
Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.

Well, I think Venezuela is attempting this at the moment. They're trying to create value by releasing their own petrol backed ICO/altcoin. Can it work? We will see.

In a broad sense, bitcoin could provide additional economic and financial opportunities, create jobs and value. It may also empower entrepreneurial solutions, small businesses and industry by providing means of conducting transactions which are deregulated and trustless and thus more efficient, affordable and innovative than many traditional bank implemented solutions.

I think education and information may be the best means to maximize bitcoin function and boost economies. It may already be too late. Those who enter crypto now will never have seen how well it functioned before it became more prone to KYC or regulation. And they'll never seen or know how great bitcoin was before it became a target for spammed DDoS transactions to artificially boost the cost of transactions. Even electrum wallet seems to be set on default to payout approximately $30 on transaction fees, for no reason.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: amih on March 04, 2018, 11:41:37 PM
the level of a country's progress can be seen from the level of economic community tarap that occupy a country. and I think bitcoin will have a good contribution to the economic progress of a country because I think Bitcoin has the potential to revolutionize the financial world. and of course bitcoin as the future financial revolution of course bitcoin will be an excellent alternative to the economic progress of a country.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: gambitcoin53 on March 05, 2018, 12:30:44 AM
since bitcoin is popularized, of course many users have improved financially for the economy, although not everyone can now take advantage of it, but I think almost all users can benefit from bitcoin because of the knowledge factor even a few of those who have success from business bitcoin.
with the fact that we know that bitcoin is capable of improving individual economic users.

Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?

is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.

bitcoin has proven that it can boost the economic status of a country by offering services paid in btc even to those who are not holding a degree, it has contributed boost in terms of livelihood and can replace day jobs. it offers opportunity to individuals to participate in traiding and e-commerce.

to maximize the full potential of bitcoin, a country should fully embrace the use of bitcoin, maybe some laws to regulate bitcoin transaction to make their people safe from scams and not use bitcoin for illegal activities, im not saying they should control bitcoin but make it more safer by monitoring illegal transactions or maybe putting up a department to monitor bitcoin transactions and not the users.

somehow legalizing bitcoin is needed to create more investors and erase the doubts about bitcoin being legit or truly functional. if legalized, more people will buy, resulting to high demands of bitcoin, then it will create traffic and bitcoin trading will get a better boost in the market.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Wallflower28 on March 05, 2018, 01:45:56 AM
Bitcoin is not just helping individual people but also helps the economy as a whole. Cryptocurrency already in a list of main contributors to the world market cap. In fact, cryptocurrency help to boost the economic growth, how? The annual salary or the gross national income of a certain country that used cryptocurrency can rise up. A lot of unemployed people helped by cryptocurrency as well as the bitcoin. The necessities of individual person without any particular job is filled by cryptocurrency.
Therefore, I believe that economic growth is moving up by the help of bitcoin!


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Argie021213 on March 05, 2018, 02:03:37 AM
Bitcoin has provided another source of income for those who invest. It has given them the opportunity for growth by extending their financial capabilities. For a simple worker, the earnings from a regular job is enough for the bills, but after having another source, they have the chance to enjoy their life better. They can afford other things that they want, and they can also improve their financial status by making another investment.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: elena_rose19 on March 05, 2018, 02:49:11 AM
Bitcoin really helps an individual in terms of its financial status. Joining signature campaigns and trading of coins are some of the ways one can have an additional income in crypto industry. In terms of economic growth, cryptocurrency can help a country if they become widely known and fully utilized.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: RamonBTC on March 05, 2018, 02:54:13 AM
My answer is ,Yes on all three questions. The legality of cryptocurrency can make a big change in its adaptation to businesses and high ranking investors from other markets. And if the numbers of investors profiting in bitcoin or any other alternative currency individually is doubled within a year then the countries economically will be lifted with it. That’s why most country like Venezuela is now on process to implement this technology to help them.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: jaysabi on March 05, 2018, 02:56:30 AM
since bitcoin is popularized, of course many users have improved financially for the economy, although not everyone can now take advantage of it, but I think almost all users can benefit from bitcoin because of the knowledge factor even a few of those who have success from business bitcoin.
with the fact that we know that bitcoin is capable of improving individual economic users.

Do you think bitcoin can contribute to the economies of a country that is down?

and by what methods to maximize bitcoin function so as to improve the country's economy?


is legality and adoption needed to facilitate bitcoin performance?

share your opinion, thank.

Bitcoin is only a medium of exchange. It doesn't do anything itself the improves an economy. An economy is the aggregate of all the jobs and economic output of the citizens. What about Bitcoin do you think would boost, either in terms of economic activity or jobs, beyond what the local currency facilitates? If a country switches to one currency from another, it doesn't create any new jobs. I don't know why everyone keeps asking this question.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: dewi91 on March 05, 2018, 04:05:30 AM
I think so hard to improve the economy of the country although bitcoin is more popular day by day, but bitcoin is not enough to improve economy in a country. To improve economy in a country is not as simple as you think and bitcoin value is fluctuate may be could have worsened the economy.


Title: Re: the contribution of bitcoin to the individual economy
Post by: Satry on March 07, 2018, 07:07:15 AM
I think it's diffult to improve one economy using bitcoin because some of leaders in different country should not accept bitcoin because it's too difficult to trace payments and they thought that bitcoin is one of the perfect hiding for the criminals. So far, bitcoin can help invidually because they can secure financially by joining online jobs.