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Title: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: superduh on October 01, 2013, 01:18:01 AM https://tradehill.com/auctions
opinion? has that guy refunded everyone is he making it up to people with free second gen devices is anyone going to participate (the greeeed) Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: kaerf on October 01, 2013, 01:33:18 AM Quote Avalon Auction Account Registration Welcome to the Avalon ASIC Chip Auction sign up process. Here we will take you through the steps of registering and identity verification so you can deposit Bitcoin and make your first bid. First you will be asked to register with your name, address, mailing address, email address, and Bitcoin wallet address. Upon submission we’ll send you an email with a link to set up your password. This will sign you into your account where you will begin the identity verification process. In order to verify your identity, we will ask you to upload images of a Government issued, photo ID along with a Proof of Address document. Submission of these two documents will begin the account verification process by our Personal Account Manager, which can take up to 72 hours. Once you receive notification, via e-mail, that your account has been approved, you may log in, deposit Bitcoin into your account, and place your first auction bid. seriously? ID verification to BUY hardware? Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: sgrunger on October 01, 2013, 02:01:03 AM It is to prevent shill bidding or deadbeats. Same thing goes for any major auction house such as Sothebys or Chrities.
Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: PuertoLibre on October 01, 2013, 02:03:58 AM https://tradehill.com/auctions He said he was going to auction off Gen 1.opinion? has that guy refunded everyone is he making it up to people with free second gen devices is anyone going to participate (the greeeed) I don't recall him saying anything about Gen 2 going up for auction. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: Carlton Banks on October 01, 2013, 02:04:27 AM "Next Generation Mining Hardware" is a pretty ambiguous technical specification. It's not clear whether this is the refunded 110nm chips or the new chips (which haven't been confirmed to be 55nm by Avalon, the last mention of this was a pre-announcement saying only that they had designed them)
Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: af_newbie on October 01, 2013, 02:12:14 AM https://tradehill.com/auctions opinion? has that guy refunded everyone is he making it up to people with free second gen devices is anyone going to participate (the greeeed) IDs to buy mining hardware? They must be kidding. Just ignore them. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: greaterninja on October 01, 2013, 05:06:34 AM Sounds like scam...there is nothing in newsletter about this.
**EDIT** okk avalon-asics.com changed. With that said there are people with batch #1, #2, #3, chip orders and Trade-ins that have still been left out to dry. Yifu has about $2000-$2500 of my icarus assets now. I pm'd him today no reply yet. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: regular on October 01, 2013, 05:44:50 AM Well something big is about to happen: http://avalon-asics.com/
Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: Unacceptable on October 01, 2013, 06:28:54 AM Yeah,thats when they start selling thier wares to the "homeland"..............................oh wait,they did that already ::)
I'll remove my negative trust rating I left for Bitsyncom when Y I FU reimburses ALL GB organizers & participants for thier loses................yeah that'll happen ::) :D http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h148/Bigblock462/flipit.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/Bigblock462/media/flipit.jpg.html) Please unite & leave a negative trust rating for Bitsycom to the amount of your wasted investment..............thank you ;D https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68196 Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: PuertoLibre on October 01, 2013, 08:26:12 AM Well something big is about to happen: http://avalon-asics.com/ The counter has gotten fancier....but will it start counting negative time?(A long standing joke, forgive me Yifu... ;D :D) Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: PuertoLibre on October 01, 2013, 08:28:28 AM By the way, what is the point of selling off gen 2 chips if they haven't sold of gen 1 chips?
It wouldn't make much sense. The sale of Gen 2 chips before Gen 1 chips are "given away" would only depreciate the price of Gen 1 chips even further... My best guess is that photo's of the gen 2 Avalons will show up as well as the sale of Gen 1 goes live (though to me that doesn't make much sense...either). I also assume the 2 module Avalon (Gen 2) will be 3x to 7x more powerful (hashing wise) than the original modules at probably 2 watts per GH/s. 3 x 300Mh/s = 900 Mh/s or 7 x 300Mh/s = 2.1 Gh/s 1 module has 10 x 8 = 80 chips (if I recall correctly) So the new module should be anywhere from 72Gh/s to 168Gh/s. ======================== If so, then a 2 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 144 Gh/s to 336 Gh/s. A 3 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 216 Gh/s to 504 Gh/s. A 4 module Avalon should probably be anywhere from 288 Gh/s to 672 Gh/s. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: Bicknellski on October 01, 2013, 08:33:33 AM No thanks. They had chips in hands and failed to deliver on time and sold them out from under those who had bought them. They basically screwed over the DIY designers and fabricators.
0 trust. No Sale. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: Xialla on October 01, 2013, 08:37:36 AM Just ignore them. I will ignore them and I'm pretty sure, that lot of guys from this board do the same, BUT there will be always huge amount of guys outside this board + lot of naive guys/greedy, which still trust. same situation like BFL, they fucked up thousands of guys and once they announce Monarch, preorders were sold in 2 days. sad but greed is stronger then anything, in bitcoin world this valid twice more. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: HorseRider on October 01, 2013, 09:17:18 AM Quote Customer Support For questions about Avalon ASIC hardware, please contact Avalon's customer support directly: Avalon support Email: support@avalon-asic.com Avalon are a group of liars, don't trust Avalon. They seldom answer support tickets. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: HorseRider on October 01, 2013, 09:23:52 AM Avalon has scammed this community and screwed lots of pre-sale buyers who used to trust them. They refuse to compensate their default on the lead time promise. Anyone who is interested in doing business with Avalon, Yifu Guo, Ngzhang(张楠庚）should look at their trusting feedback first before make your decision:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=68196 Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: johnyj on October 01, 2013, 10:56:35 AM Avalon has scammed this community and screwed lots of pre-sale buyers who used to trust them. They refuse to compensate their default on the lead time promise. Anyone who is interested in doing business with Avalon, Yifu Guo, Ngzhang(张楠庚）should look at their trusting feedback first before make your decision: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=68196 The customer service of avalon is a disaster, but they do have a good sense of market pulse. This is the mining wild west, no laws, no customer protection, no guarantee, no fairness, no justice, only raw hash power racing ;D Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: Graet on October 01, 2013, 11:28:57 AM the old tradehill sold their name to some other mob
no way am I depositing coin there just to be able to bid seriously ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: psjw4450 on October 01, 2013, 11:31:20 AM I was one of the lucky few that received my order early and I'm even scared to send them any BTC. I guess thats what happens when they screw so many people.
Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: superduh on October 01, 2013, 03:29:29 PM have they refunded everyone yet? or most? what's it looking on % wise.
anyone took legal action? Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: drico on October 01, 2013, 09:44:33 PM Funny that in the tradehill faq they don t answer to what if they does nt ship?
Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: briehost on October 01, 2013, 09:48:58 PM Well something big is about to happen: http://avalon-asics.com/ Wow, can't believe it's already been a year... Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: wantmyrefund on October 01, 2013, 11:08:56 PM "Tradehill is hosting BitSyncom's newest round of next-gen Avalon ASIC mining equipment sales. We've partnered with BitSyncom to bring you a series of auctions, which allows you to set your own purchase price. For more information, please visit our Tradehill Auction page."
This is such bogus I can't believe it. Yifu made it clear in the gen1 chip fiasco that he did not control anything and did not make or produce the chips, thus when the China folks didn't ship him anything he said there was nothing he could do. Now he continues to say "bitSyncom's newest round of next-gen Avalon ASICs", these are not his chips to sell. He is just a reseller, and a reseller who has been unable to obtain supply. This guy has a seriously inflated sense of himself. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: joeventura on October 01, 2013, 11:18:53 PM I'd like to start the bidding at: "Go Fuck Yourself Yifu" DID I WIN?? Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: johnyj on October 02, 2013, 03:22:11 AM "Something Big is going to happen!" :D
Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: dddbtc on October 02, 2013, 03:24:25 AM No thanks. They had chips in hands and failed to deliver on time and sold them out from under those who had bought them. They basically screwed over the DIY designers and fabricators. 0 trust. No Sale. +1 Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: af_newbie on October 02, 2013, 05:11:11 AM "Tradehill is hosting BitSyncom's newest round of next-gen Avalon ASIC mining equipment sales. We've partnered with BitSyncom to bring you a series of auctions, which allows you to set your own purchase price. For more information, please visit our Tradehill Auction page." This is such bogus I can't believe it. Yifu made it clear in the gen1 chip fiasco that he did not control anything and did not make or produce the chips, thus when the China folks didn't ship him anything he said there was nothing he could do. Now he continues to say "bitSyncom's newest round of next-gen Avalon ASICs", these are not his chips to sell. He is just a reseller, and a reseller who has been unable to obtain supply. This guy has a seriously inflated sense of himself. Yifu/BitSynCom/ngzhang will not be selling any gen 1 or 2 directly. They would sell very few units if they tried. They will hide behind proxies and resellers who can offer a better customer service. And that is probably a very smart move on their part. Their reputation took a massive hit and there is no easy way to recover from that. Especially in the environment of new, more transparent and more responsive manufacturers and resellers. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: edgar on October 02, 2013, 06:30:52 AM "Tradehill is hosting BitSyncom's newest round of next-gen Avalon ASIC mining equipment sales. We've partnered with BitSyncom to bring you a series of auctions, which allows you to set your own purchase price. For more information, please visit our Tradehill Auction page." This is such bogus I can't believe it. Yifu made it clear in the gen1 chip fiasco that he did not control anything and did not make or produce the chips, thus when the China folks didn't ship him anything he said there was nothing he could do. Now he continues to say "bitSyncom's newest round of next-gen Avalon ASICs", these are not his chips to sell. He is just a reseller, and a reseller who has been unable to obtain supply. This guy has a seriously inflated sense of himself. Yifu/BitSynCom/ngzhang will not be selling any gen 1 or 2 directly. They would sell very few units if they tried. They will hide behind proxies and resellers who can offer a better customer service. And that is probably a very smart move on their part. Their reputation took a massive hit and there is no easy way to recover from that. Especially in the environment of new, more transparent and more responsive manufacturers and resellers. there is in fact a VERY easy way for them to recover from their fk ups (GREED), REFUND EVERYONE the BTC that were mined with their rigs under avalons watch & Refund us quick! they made an incredible amount of btc from the sales, so pre-mining aka testing was uncalled for greed whilst the coins were worth 100s of dollars. Only reimbursing those STOLEN coins will give anyone any semblance of appreciation for what has occurred. ONLY B1 buyers are happy, the rest of us got the tiny Yifu shaft, and he knows it. lying about mafia hitmen and other horse shit whilst promoting next gen/gen 2 rigs/auctions only makes us hate him/them more.... Quick mods, delete this one as well!!! Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: Vycid on October 02, 2013, 07:31:12 AM I'm not clear here - is this going to be chips or complete miners?
Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: Unacceptable on October 02, 2013, 08:20:53 AM I'm not clear here - is this going to be chips or complete miners? PM Bitsyncompoop,he'll get back to you by 2014 :D https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68196 Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: one4many on October 15, 2013, 04:16:27 PM OK ... It is over
aaaand ... the auction was shit ... What else was to expect. 5 minutes before the end you could not bid ... The server would not respond at all. So it was impossible to buy something unless you made your bids hours in advance. Meaning most of the units have been sold very cheap, YiFu and the technically incompetent idiots at Tradehill did loose out big time. one4many Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: CryptoCluster on October 15, 2013, 04:29:13 PM OK ... It is over aaaand ... the auction was shit ... What else was to expect. 5 minutes before the end you could not bid ... The server would not respond at all. So it was impossible to buy something unless you made your bids hours in advance. Meaning most of the units have been sold very cheap, YiFu and the technically incompetent idiots at Tradehill did loose out big time. one4many How did it end? What were the winning bids? Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: driksson on October 15, 2013, 05:56:58 PM from 3.x to 2.1x, highest volume around 2.3x.. they had orders of around 650 pcs.
was a big trader in and out with 100pcs last minutes.. i upped my bids and got a few for 2.3. Title: Re: Avalon's Second Gen / october release Post by: zulover on October 16, 2013, 01:08:19 AM i got clearing price for 2.21btc, anyone one get any thing cheaper?
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