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Did the "Hole Seekers" get all the info they needed?

Please explain to me how you know this was Obummer's fault.

Unfortunately, yes. They got everything they wanted, and kept getting it for several months...

To the OP: well maybe they're done for now, but I'm sure they'll start again whenever another need comes up. Also, 'Hole seekers'?  ???

To surebet: 'Obummer'.  ::) Grow up. But as for how we can be fairly sure (not certain, granted) that this was the US government, well I think Occam's razor works here. Though another possibility is: we all know that the forum admins will have had to cooperate with the USG in some form to bring DPR down. Presumably some peeps with leet haxxor skillz won't have been happy with this, and possibly it was some form of retaliation. But I still think USG is most likely.

is this forum hosted on a 486 or something ?

A php forum gets hacked and the simplest explanation you can think of is "NSA did it"? William of Ockham is facepalming in his grave.

it was hosted on his own computer it could have been a hardware fault, any malicious code could have been planted ages ago

i think i found the culprit

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_CTE-goYCMBE/TPz4c1Jmd7I/AAAAAAAAAUo/B4fuxP4OHCw/s400/first-apple-mac-computer1.jpg

i was baffled that their was no redirect and we where just forced to have a connection hang  ???

yeah, blame the incompetence of theymos and co on the government.  ;)

no call outs :P

fify

There's some link about the "Hole Seekers" claim?

What are their aims? They r hackers or crackers? Steal data or only show their ability?

 ???

They are a super secret group of top notch government bank sponsored cyber ninja hackers. They specifically fight against pirates and their associated heated beverage containers.

99% chance this was a Gov op . There is no such thing as coincidences,,Fairy farts or Unicorns ...... Have you guys been living under a rock for the past year? Have you seen or read what our government has been doing lately? This Forum held a treasure trove of information about Bitcoin users and what they are up to. This is just the beginning of the Governments New War on BitCoin and Crypto. The "Hole Seekers" are just another NSA asset.

i heard they had a penchant for exposing posers who portray themselves as professional forum administrators.

Now now, you can only do so much with an amateur website like this. It's not as if thermos has over half a million dollars in contributions just lying around to get a professional solution.






Oh.

say what you want about thermos, but at the end of the day i'm glad i have it to keep my coffee warm.

beside jokes, i 98% don't think that is gov  8)


i want to find out if the HS r ethical hackers  ;)


dont  blame theymos, this could happen even to a gov sites


dunno if the pun is intended but is real funny  :D

Yes they RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Must have been a long setup through.

dont worry bitcoin talk will never go down again ever

http://mlblogsbaseballsnatcher.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/broken20computer.jpg

BFL does white minirigs now? So cool.

and whats your opinion of this TF? you think it was gov't or what?

hey atleast they put these new white models together better than those mini rigs.

The government doesn't need to do this if they want contents on the forum.

exactly.

It was someone from Something Awful.
99% it was the government  ???
The paranoia of people on the internet is at an all time high. Any sense of reality seems to be completely gone.
How can you even begin to claim things like this. 99% sure. Crazy. There are a 100 other options more likely than the government doing is.

It didn't work very well, then.

Just script kiddies getting bored.

I really doubt it was the government.  They had previously tabbed bitcointalk as too big to fail.  It's downfall could lead to the unraveling of the entire bitcoin economy.

oh wait

Utterly absurd - they didn't touch Reddit or take down the IRC channel on Freenode (both of which they could've done quite easily). Bitcointalk is FAR from the only gathering place. There is no logical reason to conclude that the government was behind this, not least of which is the sloppy post-hack defacement.

Any theymos or thermos related post requires this pic.

https://i.imgur.com/hy9HoPt.png

It isn't their MO.  Their MO is what they did on SR.  The logged in as a user under cover, they copied the whole thing so they could analyze it in their own lab, and when they were ready they seized the site.  There was never a defacement & inconvenience phase.

DDoS on exchanges may be in their MO, as evidenced by a cluster of (DDoS, bank account closings, and legal action, calendar time) against unlicensed BTC exchanges.

DDoS doesn't really fit either. The ultimate goal from a LE point of view is enforce laws and make arrests, just pissing at a sight doesn't really satisfy these.

When one service goes down from an attack I'd immediately look at the competing services in that market space.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306878.0

I pretty much agree with you about the LE focus.  However, I don't see an explanation for the DDoS attacks on Mt. Gox & bitfloor the week before bitfloor got notification from their bank and Mt. Gox ran into complications with USD transfers.  Was there a 3rd DDoS attack in early April?

Oh yeah, the MtGox https://i.imgur.com/n8n0Tge.gif DDoS https://i.imgur.com/n8n0Tge.gif.

It's funny how their service becomes an unstable piece of shit right in the middle of a crash.

As for bitfloor, I'd look again at competing services.

I wasn't talking about the technical difficulty-or-not of doing the hack - I'm a complete ignoramus re running web services - rather the timing of it. It's the simplest explanation to account for the *timing* of the hack. Well, there was also the other possibility I mentioned - non-gov hackers pissed off at the forum's role in bringing down DPR.

They didn't steal all the info they want. They received it for months and years simply by requesting it. The "hack" was just a cover up.

Your logic is making my head hurt.

The simplest - and as it happens, the actual - explanation for the timing of the attack is "for the lulz".  You really think that someone pissed off about "the forum's role in bringing down DPR" (the forum didn't need to play a role - he made his email address public and law enforcement could have easily obtained access to his gmail account and confirmed he used it to register his account that way) would go to the trouble of making an animated flash intrusion with music? 

If someone was blaming the forum for helping bring down DPR, wouldn't they be likely to do something malicious if they gained access, like trashing the database and erasing everyone's accounts?

I'd be curious to know how many people in this thread are absolutely, beyond a doubt convinced that the US did 9/11. Not in the "they created the geopolotical situation that blah blah blah", actual ideas about Tomahawks, controlled demolitions and all that jazz.

The government doesn't need to hack the forums. They can have access to everything they need at any given time. Unless sufficiently strong encryption is used of course ....

Why?

Do you seriously think anyone in power gives a damn what is being posted here?
It is completely irrelevant. They have more important things to do.

What could be more important than the bitcointalk dot org forums?

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