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Title: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: tokeweed on March 19, 2018, 11:00:50 AM
Date: Saturday, April 7th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 22:59 BCT / 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 BCT / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 BCT / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.fìrstrow.eu/


https://i.imgur.com/e3BIQde.jpg

Main Card (PPV)

http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Tony Ferguson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Ferguson) (23-3) vs. http://i.imgur.com/X1kAVPE.gif Khabib Nurmagomedov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khabib_Nurmagomedov) (25-0) (Lightweight Championship)
http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Rose Namajunas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Namajunas) (7-3) vs. http://i.imgur.com/7xYkGn0.gif Joanna Jedrzejczyk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_J%C4%99drzejczyk) (14-1) (Women's Strawweight Championship)
http://i.imgur.com/1M3a7Pb.gif Renato Moicano (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renato_Moicano) (11-1-1) vs. http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Calvin Kattar (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Calvin-Kattar-23782) (18-2) (Featherweight)
http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Michael Chiesa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chiesa) (14-3) vs. http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Anthony Pettis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Pettis) (20-7) (Lightweight)
http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Al Iaquinta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Iaquinta) (13-3-1) vs. http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Paul Felder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Felder) (15-3) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

http://i.imgur.com/7xYkGn0.gif Karolina Kowalkiewicz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karolina_Kowalkiewicz) (11-2) vs. http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Felice Herrig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felice_Herrig) (14-6) (Women's Strawweight)   
http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Ray Borg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Borg) (11-3) vs. http://i.imgur.com/U9DtY2I.gif Brandon Moreno (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Moreno) (14-4) (Flyweight)
http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Joe Lauzon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lauzon) (27-14) vs. http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Chris Gruetzamacher (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chris-Gruetzemacher-36924) (13-3) (Lightweight)
http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Evan Dunham (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Dunham) (18-6-1) vs. http://i.imgur.com/ecoGNcd.gif Olivier Aubin-Mercier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivier_Aubin-Mercier) (10-2) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Alex Caceres (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Caceres) (13-11) vs. http://i.imgur.com/X1kAVPE.gif Artem Lobov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artem_Lobov) (13-14-1) (Featherweight)
http://i.imgur.com/UBReiZi.gif Bec Rawlings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bec_Rawlings) (7-7) vs. http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Ashlee Evans-Smith (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashlee_Evans-Smith) (5-3) (Women's Flyweight)
http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Devin Clark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Clark_(fighter)) (8-2) vs. http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Mike Rodriguez (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Mike-Rodriguez-107891) (9-2) (Light Heavyweight)
http://i.imgur.com/X1kAVPE.gif Zabit Magomedsharipov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabit_Magomedsharipov) (14-1) vs. http://i.imgur.com/TNaFXPM.gif Kyle Bochniak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Bochniak) (8-2) (Featherweight)

Other

- During an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Dana White officially stated that the fight between Tony Ferguson and Khabib Nurmagomedov would be for official lightweight championship belt, not the interim title, as long as both fighters remained healthy and made weight.

- Mairbek Taisumov was expected to face Evan Dunham at the event. However, Taisumov was removed from the fight on March 9 for alleged visa issues, restricting his travel. Olivier Aubin-Mercier replaced Taisumov on March 11.

Thanks to Puertorican for letting me use this content (https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/1156119/UFC_223:_Ferguson_vs._Nurmagom...html).


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: Hydrogen on March 19, 2018, 06:03:57 PM
Notes.

-BJJ Scout posted an interesting and worth watching post fight study of Khabib Nurmagomedov's last fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FrjANY1T40

-Joanna Jedrzejczyk directed some of the blame for her last loss against Rose @ her nutrition and weight cutting crew. It will be interesting to see if that change makes a difference in the rematch.

-Calvin Kattar's last fight where he finished Shane Burgos via strikes was very impressive. He is a hot prospect atm for sure.

-There are some interesting contrasts in these fights. Michael Chiesa doesn't do well if he can't get his takedown. Anthony Pettis often doesn't do well if he is taken down. Evan Dunham has wrestled a lot in his last few fights. UFC matchmakers seem to have given him one of the best wrestlers in the division in a "test your might" mortal kombat type of thing.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on March 19, 2018, 09:38:42 PM
-Joanna Jedrzejczyk directed some of the blame for her last loss against Rose @ her nutrition and weight cutting crew. It will be interesting to see if that change makes a difference in the rematch.
She was defeated clean and she just wanted to make an excuse for her loss,if she is the champion she has to make sure that she is on weight rather than making it hard for her on the final day of weigh ins and blaming the loss for her weight cutting crew,the amount of trash she was speaking before the Rose fight was too much and she fell on her ass. ;D

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-There are some interesting contrasts in these fights. Michael Chiesa doesn't do well if he can't get his takedown. Anthony Pettis often doesn't do well if he is taken down.
Anthony Pettis is the greatest disappointment after the introduction of drug testing,he was super invisible fighter before that and now he is just a mere reflection of his past wins but it is a good opportunity for Michael Chiesa to defeat a former champion and improve his rankings.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 20, 2018, 02:19:02 AM
During an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Dana White officially stated that the fight between Tony Ferguson and Khabib Nurmagomedov would be for official lightweight championship belt, not the interim title, as long as both fighters remained healthy and made weight.

But there was also a press conference 2 months ago where Dana said he will not strip Conor out of his lightweight title and that we should wait for April 7 to see what happens.

Are we supposed to be excited, because I am very confused.

I speculate that we might see a publicity stunt like Conor going in the octagon, with his own belt, challenging the winner like what the WWE wrestlers do hehehe.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: Sithara007 on March 20, 2018, 08:00:20 AM
I'll be watching Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov. Fights between Russians and the Americans are always enjoyable and Khabib Nurmagomedov is someone who has remained undefeated till now. I am also interested in the second Russia vs US match (Caceres vs Lobov), although I am not sure whether anyone will be livestreaming it.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: tokeweed on March 20, 2018, 11:09:27 AM
^  Lol.  The cold war has been over for 30 years dude...  ;D

Anyway, watch this video below.  Skip it to the final part.  Look at that thick metal pipe Ferguson has been kicking.  Lmao.

Dana White:  'Unfortunately the main event for UFC 223 is cancelled due to Ferguson overdoing his training with a thick ass metal pipe two weeks before the bout'.  Lololol.

This is How Ferguson is Preparing for Khabib
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMcDHCvi40


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: btc_angela on March 20, 2018, 01:28:36 PM
I'll be watching Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov. Fights between Russians and the Americans are always enjoyable and Khabib Nurmagomedov is someone who has remained undefeated till now. I am also interested in the second Russia vs US match (Caceres vs Lobov), although I am not sure whether anyone will be livestreaming it.

Live stream has already been posted by tokeweed.

I advise you to watch Rocky IV. That's the true American vs Russian fight.  ;D

Looks like Ferguson is doing the mental thing now with his metal pipe training. Although I have seen Manny Pacquiao being plummeted by Freddie Roach in the stomach to make it strong and able to able heavy blows.

Pretty solid card. As for Joanna Jedrzejczyk, we all have heard her excuses. Rose beat him fair and square. Its time for her to prove though has tough she is and how much more she want's the title back.

Still undecided between Khabib and Tony here.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: Zlatna Kopa4ka on March 20, 2018, 11:17:07 PM
Nurmagomedov is a straight up beast. I think he will beat Ferguson. Fantastic last fights, being unbeaten is something that only a few can achieve. Go Nurma!


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 21, 2018, 01:05:45 AM
@btc_angela. I reckon it is more than doing a mental thing. Tony has thinner and weaker legs compared to his fellow fighters. If you watch his fights from before, you would notice that he would easily be swept away from the leg kicks done on him.

Also, I predict that Khabib's wrestling will be too much for Tony. After watching his fight versus Edson Barboza, it already made impression on what might occur on Khabib versus Tony.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: btc_angela on March 21, 2018, 02:35:35 AM
@btc_angela. I reckon it is more than doing a mental thing. Tony has thinner and weaker legs compared to his fellow fighters. If you watch his fights from before, you would notice that he would easily be swept away from the leg kicks done on him.

Maybe that chicken legs could be a advantage? Fast feet and can easily get out from Khabib tenacity.

Also, I predict that Khabib's wrestling will be too much for Tony. After watching his fight versus Edson Barboza, it already made impression on what might occur on Khabib versus Tony.

I watched Khabib's technique in youtube and there's one guy who analyze his every movement and it seems he combine a lot of techniques by greats like GSP and others. I'm still undecided though. Lol. But for sure I'm gonna be betting on this one and I want to see the odds before making my final call.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 22, 2018, 12:48:43 AM
@btc_angela. The odds are already all over the internet hehe. Khabib is the favorite. I reckon his fight versus Edson Barboza had made a good impression and has increased his odds on winning in the eyes of the oddsmakers.

I remember the odds when Khabib and Tony were last scheduled to fight were much closer.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: Hydrogen on March 22, 2018, 09:14:50 PM
Forgot to mention, Ray Borg versus Brandon Moreno is an interesting match up for a few different reasons.

Ray Borg is known primarily for his wrestling and scrambling ability. Brandon Moreno isn't as established a grappler/wrestler as Ray Borg. BUT in the past I think Moreno has been trained by Henry Cejudo and been a training/sparring partner of Moreno. So while most might expect Ray Borg to have the advantage in wrestling, it is possible Moreno could have the better wrestling credentials in terms of who he trains with.

I have a feeling the next two weeks could pass slowly and a lot of people appear to be hoping and praying that neither Khabib nor Tony Ferguson are injured so we can see them fight(unlike the last time). Haha.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 23, 2018, 01:51:10 AM
@Hydrogen. What about Karolina Kowalkiewicz versus Felice Herrig? That fight should have a slot in the main card and it deserves more attention than Michael Cheisa versus Anthony Pettis, I reckon.

Also there's drama. Karolina is fighting to be back for a title contention slot while Felice is trying to break in the top 5 and do a championship campaign of her own. It's a more competitive match up.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: Hydrogen on March 23, 2018, 07:28:05 PM
@Hydrogen. What about Karolina Kowalkiewicz versus Felice Herrig? That fight should have a slot in the main card and it deserves more attention than Michael Cheisa versus Anthony Pettis, I reckon.

Also there's drama. Karolina is fighting to be back for a title contention slot while Felice is trying to break in the top 5 and do a championship campaign of her own. It's a more competitive match up.

Karolina hasn't looked good in a long time. She is a former contender but after losing to Joanna and being finished by Claudia Gadelha in 1 round, it seems as if her confidence has suffered. Her kickboxing never looked great, one of her biggest strengths was her cardio. Now that other athletes are improving their dieting and nutrition and can match her pace, Karolina isn't as successful(although she does look great in a bikini). I think Karolina is falling behind in the training area. She's not improving her skills as time passes, if anything she might be regressing and getting worse over time.

Felice Herrig on the other hand, has improved. I think a lot of people thought Felice had a tremendously bad attitude and negative mentality from her time on the ultimate fighter. Not 100% certain on that. Felice might seem like a big drop in competition for Karolina but don't count Felice Herrig out!


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: Baofeng on March 23, 2018, 11:58:26 PM
@btc_angela. The odds are already all over the internet hehe. Khabib is the favorite. I reckon his fight versus Edson Barboza had made a good impression and has increased his odds on winning in the eyes of the oddsmakers.

I remember the odds when Khabib and Tony were last scheduled to fight were much closer.

Right the odds where pretty much closer then. I think Khabib is the favorite because he is really a different fighter and we have been anticipating this fight for so long that every one is really pump about it.

I will go with Khabib here, he has too much tools in his arsenal that Tony needs to overcome. I think Khabib's wrestling will be put into display once again.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 24, 2018, 02:03:02 AM
@Hydrogen. Yes, I reckon Felice Herrig will win that fight too. She is one tough mama hehehe.

@Baofeng. You have it wrong. Khabib is the more basic fighter, but has the best wrestling in all of MMA today. While Tony has more tools than Khabib, and the more acrobatic fighter doing flips and other strange technics on the mat.

But would that be enough to beat Khabib? I reckon, no. I base this from the Micheal Johnson and the Edson Barboza fights.



Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: tokeweed on March 24, 2018, 02:48:07 PM
Here's a funny video, but def has some truth in it.  I think Ferguson has the psychological edge coming in this bout by trolling Khabib and sh*t.  But would that be enough in getting the 'W'?

It could imo.

UFC 223 Preview:  Khabib Nurmagomedov Faceoff Breakdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVbV06MVzx8


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: darkangel11 on March 24, 2018, 06:54:13 PM
-Joanna Jedrzejczyk directed some of the blame for her last loss against Rose @ her nutrition and weight cutting crew. It will be interesting to see if that change makes a difference in the rematch.

This is going to be interesting indeed. Namajunas isn't a good fighter, lacking the skill, especially in the punches. You could see it in her fight with  VanZant which she barely won against a fighter that is more of a celebrity than a fighter. Jedrzejczyk was always a great boxer. In that last fight she wasn't herself. Very slow, got outplayed, that's it. I hope she'll show more this time.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: Hydrogen on March 24, 2018, 07:55:00 PM
This is going to be interesting indeed. Namajunas isn't a good fighter, lacking the skill, especially in the punches. You could see it in her fight with  VanZant which she barely won against a fighter that is more of a celebrity than a fighter. Jedrzejczyk was always a great boxer. In that last fight she wasn't herself. Very slow, got outplayed, that's it. I hope she'll show more this time.

Namajunas has come a long way since losing the ultimate fighter finale against Carla Esparza for the 115 lb title. I think somewhere along the line, Valentina Shevchenko and Rose Namajunas began training/sparring together. Also Rose seems to have tightened up her diet and nutrition game which improved her cardio dramatically over where it was in the past, where she used to fade and slow down in her fights. Rose could have come a long way and progressed a lot.

Jedrzejczyk's kickboxing was overrated imo. I think before Jedrzejczyk moved to american top team her kickboxing was better than Karolina's but not by a lot. Valentina vs Joanna could be a good rematch in MMA as its been said Valentina is 3-0 against Joanna in kickboxing.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 25, 2018, 01:43:49 AM
@Hydrogen. I agree that Rose has come a long way since the Ultimate Fighter, but I highly disagree that Joanna is overrated.

Joanna may not have the power to knock out her opponents, but her skills are very exceptional, not only in her division, but as a pound for pound comparison against the rest. Including the men's divisions.

Also, I like Rose but Joanna will get her belt back.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on March 26, 2018, 10:55:38 PM
Jedrzejczyk's kickboxing was overrated imo. I think before Jedrzejczyk moved to american top team her kickboxing was better than Karolina's but not by a lot. Valentina vs Joanna could be a good rematch in MMA as its been said Valentina is 3-0 against Joanna in kickboxing.
Valentina Shevchenko is my favorite fighter in the women's division after Cyborg and Valentina has three wins over Jedrzejczyk and she was fighting against bigger opponents in Bantamweight division and with the new division open in the UFC she is the future champion in Flyweight division and i do not see anyone challenging her in that division as it is the right division for her size.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 27, 2018, 01:59:25 AM
@SaShiRaJaVu. I speculate that Dana is already setting up his storyboard for one of the biggest fights for 2019. If Joanna wins her belt back and Valentina wins the women's flyweight championship, then we might see a champion versus champion match up for both.

Also, from what I have seen from Joanna, she might want to get 1 win back hehehe.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: Theb on March 27, 2018, 05:18:13 AM
Nurmagomedev I think has the edge here as this is probably his biggest fight to date and it is also a title bout. You can't also say that he is an underdog as if you look at his fight record most of his wins are from Submissions and TKOs which means a lot. Their fight between him and Ferguson are expected since 2015 and now it is really happening, this is one of the things you want to watch as they are both excellent fighters, but between them I would be leaning over to Khabib who would be winning the fight.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: tokeweed on March 29, 2018, 12:16:46 PM
You wanna listen to two grown men acting like two little whiney kids?  You're all in luck, click the link below.  Lol.  :D

Ferguson lost it in this one.  He was trying too hard in bullying Khabib and it back fired.  Oh well...

Khabib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson Absolutely Rip Eachother in Epic Trash Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-yZLP8UZc


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: michkima on March 29, 2018, 09:57:44 PM
You wanna listen to two grown men acting like two little whiney kids?  You're all in luck, click the link below.  Lol.  :D

Ferguson lost it in this one.  He was trying too hard in bullying Khabib and it back fired.  Oh well...

Khabib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson Absolutely Rip Eachother in Epic Trash Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-yZLP8UZc

This is the usually norm nowadays in MMA, so much trashtalk and bad blood which are actually just for show! I blame McGreggor for this as he has really made a lot of money with this! He hypes the fight through trashtalking every single fighter he is up against this made him famous and rich and eventually had a chance to fight Mayweather which made him more famous and rich!


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: jakagintiri on March 30, 2018, 02:36:52 AM
You wanna listen to two grown men acting like two little whiney kids?  You're all in luck, click the link below.  Lol.  :D

Ferguson lost it in this one.  He was trying too hard in bullying Khabib and it back fired.  Oh well...

Khabib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson Absolutely Rip Eachother in Epic Trash Talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo-yZLP8UZc

This is the usually norm nowadays in MMA, so much trashtalk and bad blood which are actually just for show! I blame McGreggor for this as he has really made a lot of money with this! He hypes the fight through trashtalking every single fighter he is up against this made him famous and rich and eventually had a chance to fight Mayweather which made him more famous and rich!
I also assume so, between the truth or just setting to add to the popularity surely add to the income as well right? to become richer, where McGregor vs. Mayweather fits in a lot of big gambling. She collected a lot of dolls, everything can be a game object.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Ferguson vs Nurmagomedov Info and Prediction Thread, Big Event!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on March 31, 2018, 08:39:33 PM
Also, from what I have seen from Joanna, she might want to get 1 win back hehehe.
I am also waiting for that match in MMA and in my opinion Valentina Shevchenko is much more skilled than Joanna Jedrzejczyk, Joanna actually blames her weight cut for her loss and the media obligations are said to be a burden now , even in the last fight i never expected Rose Namajunas to win by knockout and i am sure no experts predicted that either, lets see whether it was a fluke .


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: tokeweed on April 02, 2018, 11:16:47 AM
F*ck guys...  Ferguson is out of 223 due to injury!  There was a freak accident or something, don't know the details yet.  This sucks.  The event went from a 10 to a 5.

Holloway is taking the fight in Ferguson's place.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: Sithara007 on April 02, 2018, 01:48:55 PM
F*ck guys...  Ferguson is out of 223 due to injury!  There was a freak accident or something, don't know the details yet.  This sucks.  The event went from a 10 to a 5.

Holloway is taking the fight in Ferguson's place.

This is frustrating. After waiting for many days for the Nurmagomedov vs Ferguson fight, now we have Nurmagomedov vs Holloway. I mean no disrespect to Max Holloway. He is a very good fighter. But I don't like his technique and IMO he is no match for Nurmagomedov.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 03, 2018, 02:08:49 AM
I can already see a conspiracy here to favor Conor hehehe.

Dana White will make sure that Max Holloway wins and becomes a double champion in the lightweight and featherweight divisions. Then on December 29, 2018 in UFC 239, Conor will challenge Max and Dana will make sure that this time Conor wins and makes him a double champion once again.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: Hydrogen on April 03, 2018, 04:23:33 AM
Dana White said he will "never" book Tony Ferguson vs Khabib Nurmagomedov again. Dana has tried to make this fight happen since 2016.

I'm not happy Max Holloway took this fight. Was hoping another lightweight could step up on short notice. Tony Ferguson sounded very bitter, almost like the fight was over in some of the recent press conferences(like the one Tokeweed posted in this thread on march 29th) . I wonder if Ferguson was injured days or weeks ago, and they're only reporting it now that they've finally found a replacement. The timing for the news release on April 1st, April Fool's Day seems like a publicity stunt.

Oh well, its been two weeks since we've had a UFC event. At least the MMA drought will finally come to an end.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: tokeweed on April 03, 2018, 12:26:47 PM
Meh...  Still can't believe Ferguson is out.  I was still hoping it was all an April Fool's joke until April 2.  Lolol.

Anyway here are some vids to get you guys back into it somehow.  Enjoy.

UFC 223 Embedded:  Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fr2qZGbVjQ

UFC 223 Countdown:  Namajunas vs JJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkwmE_1hkas

Leaning towards JJ here.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 04, 2018, 01:09:47 AM
I reckon Rose versus Joanna might become be a trilogy. Dana needs to create artificial drama until Connor comes back hehehe.

I predict Joanna is going to win in a controversial split decision. It will be one of the best engineering jobs by Dana.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: eaLiTy on April 05, 2018, 08:00:28 AM
F*ck guys...  Ferguson is out of 223 due to injury!  There was a freak accident or something, don't know the details yet.  This sucks.  The event went from a 10 to a 5.
Holloway is taking the fight in Ferguson's place.
There is no one in the division that could make this much interest than a super fight with the champion Holloway. The freak accident sucks without a doubt and i really do not want to comment in this thread till the last day because i did not want this fight to be moved again and still it is not going to happen in the near future.

I can already see a conspiracy here to favor Conor hehehe.
Dana White will make sure that Max Holloway wins and becomes a double champion in the lightweight and featherweight divisions. Then on December 29, 2018 in UFC 239, Conor will challenge Max and Dana will make sure that this time Conor wins and makes him a double champion once again.
This is not the Wwe to script the winner.  :D If Max Holloway could somehow win this fight it would be against two double champions one reigning and the other retired.  :D as McNuggets has no plans to fight top competition especially Khabib and Tony.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: tokeweed on April 05, 2018, 10:21:04 AM
Watch the vid.  Holloway is actually selling the event better than Ferguson does.  I kinda like his personality better.  I wonder what the pre fight conference would be like if McGregor and Holloway were fighting.  ;D

And I agree with bbc.reporter...  Namajunas vs JJ could may well become a trilogy (more money for the UFC).  Just made a bet on JJ at 1.86.  ;)

UFC 223:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd0bB-5X4o0


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info and Prediction Thread, FERGUSON OUT!
Post by: tokeweed on April 06, 2018, 09:38:06 AM
So Conor McGregor attacked the bus that was taking the fighters back to their hotel from the press conference.  In case you guys didn't know, it started when Khabib and his team went to Artem Lobov (who is part of McGregor's team) started bullying him.

McGregor didn't take it sitting down.

McGregor Bus Attack Details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC6CH9U2NuE

Dana White Admonishes Conor McGregor's Criminal Behavior at UFC 223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjBGMAE7GBU

McGregor in Police Custody After Bus Attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0hAcM3Q2cs

Enjoy!  ;D


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs Holloway Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: tokeweed on April 06, 2018, 03:09:40 PM
Holloway is medically unfit to fight according to the New York State Athletic Commission.  Dana White is thinking of bringing in Anthony Pettis to fight vs Khabib.  Lawl what a disaster this turned out to be.

This event just went from one of the greatest ever (TJ vs DJ - Nama vs JJ - Ferg vs Khabib) to Nama vs JJ and a bunch of scrubs.

Edit:  Here's McGregor's mugshot.  Rofl.

https://i.imgur.com/bsydITd.jpg


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: babygun on April 06, 2018, 09:53:04 PM
Hahaha, Conor is really brilliant . You can say what you want, but this guy always provides entertainment, now by attacking a bus  ;D.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: yugyug on April 06, 2018, 11:57:10 PM
Ferguson was out for UFC 223 due to freakin' knee injury and he will be replaced by Max Holloway it is another misfortune of Dana White's UFC MMA fight ticket.  Nurmagomedov quoted on instagram about Ferguson "Tony heal up man. Just want to advise you, don’t talk too much anymore. Lot of thoughts in my head right now, but I don’t want to become like you. Hope, this lesson will teach you watch your mouth."

I thought max was injured. I hope the usual max Holloway shows up, if he does I think he can take this one and shock the world. If max can keep his distance and avoid the take down then he can easily take khabib on the feet, but that’s a big if when it comes to avoiding the take down.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 07, 2018, 01:22:57 AM
@babygun. It is like a reality TV show hehehe. I also remember Dana talking about Conor fighting Khabib in UFC Russia. Maybe this is the start of the drama being engineered by the UFC.

@yugyug. We know. Khabib will fight Al Iaquinta now for the real lightweight title hehe.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Sithara007 on April 07, 2018, 03:03:24 AM
Hahaha, Conor is really brilliant . You can say what you want, but this guy always provides entertainment, now by attacking a bus  ;D.

I guess it is all staged. These people will do anything to increase the viewership and revenue. McGregor may be out of detention already. BTW... Is it now confirmed who is going to fight Nurmagomedov? First it was Ferguson, then it was Holloway...


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on April 07, 2018, 04:29:24 AM
Hahaha, Conor is really brilliant . You can say what you want, but this guy always provides entertainment, now by attacking a bus  ;D.

I guess it is all staged. These people will do anything to increase the viewership and revenue. McGregor may be out of detention already. BTW... Is it now confirmed who is going to fight Nurmagomedov? First it was Ferguson, then it was Holloway...

I guess its confirmed because aside from CBS Sports reporting that its Al Iaquinta who will fight Nurmagomedov, I also checked UFC profile of Al Al Iaquinta and it now shows his upcoming fight which is with Khabib Nurmagomedov. Its a very short notice and if Al Iaquinta can pull this one off then his name will be in the history books.

source:
http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Al-Iaquinta
https://www.cbssports.com/mma/news/ufc-223-fight-card-khabib-nurmagomedov-vs-al-iaquinta-rumors-odds-prelims/


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: tokeweed on April 07, 2018, 10:42:07 AM
^  Pretty much doubt Iaquinta chances here...  But yeah, weird stuff happens.

Anyway here are the weigh ins.  I am so bummed out with this event that I skipped it all the way to Nama vs JJ weigh ins and face off and then quit the video.  Lol.

UFC 223:  Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_99v_bWlEyw


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: babygun on April 07, 2018, 06:02:42 PM
Staged or not, it was entertaining to watch  ;D.
But I am wondering when we will see Conor back in the UFC, as his last match is already a long time ago. There are even rumours that Conor would go to the WWE (following Rousey).


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Lionidas on April 07, 2018, 07:09:25 PM
Hahaha, Conor is really brilliant . You can say what you want, but this guy always provides entertainment, now by attacking a bus  ;D.

I guess it is all staged. These people will do anything to increase the viewership and revenue. McGregor may be out of detention already. BTW... Is it now confirmed who is going to fight Nurmagomedov? First it was Ferguson, then it was Holloway...
Staged or not, it was entertaining to watch  ;D.
But I am wondering when we will see Conor back in the UFC, as his last match is already a long time ago. There are even rumours that Conor would go to the WWE (following Rousey).
It wasn't staged as they arrested him and he lost any championships he held because he did want to fight his last contender that wanted to fight him as he declined a matchup to defend it. :-\


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: eaLiTy on April 07, 2018, 09:52:50 PM
Staged or not, it was entertaining to watch 
But I am wondering when we will see Conor back in the UFC, as his last match is already a long time ago. There are even rumours that Conor would go to the WWE (following Rousey).
I did not find this incident interesting, if he is really a tough guy, he should have proved that by accepting the fight rather than injuring other fighters and making a big mess, in the beginning this was one of the best cards and now three fights are already dropped just because of this hooliganism and i am sure   Al Iaquinta is not prepared to fight Khabib even though i was picking him for winning the bout against Paul Felder.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Lionidas on April 07, 2018, 11:46:49 PM
Staged or not, it was entertaining to watch  
But I am wondering when we will see Conor back in the UFC, as his last match is already a long time ago. There are even rumours that Conor would go to the WWE (following Rousey).
I did not find this incident interesting, if he is really a tough guy, he should have proved that by accepting the fight rather than injuring other fighters and making a big mess, in the beginning this was one of the best cards and now three fights are already dropped just because of this hooliganism and i am sure   Al Iaquinta is not prepared to fight Khabib even though i was picking him for winning the bout against Paul Felder.
Mcgregor just cost himself alot of money instead of making any by taking the fight.
So he injured the main even fighter on the bus?
@babygun. It is like a reality TV show hehehe. I also remember Dana talking about Conor fighting Khabib in UFC Russia. Maybe this is the start of the drama being engineered by the UFC.

@yugyug. We know. Khabib will fight Al Iaquinta now for the real lightweight title hehe.
I have Habib to win against this substitute on the main card anyways so it is good. ;D
https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/4/7/17210360/conor-mcgregor-releases-statement-ufc-223-chaos-fighters-arrest


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: tokeweed on April 08, 2018, 05:04:13 AM
Lost my JJ bet.  Now wonder her line was fading...  But it's nice to see Namajunas finally becoming undisputed champ.  Now we can say her win vs JJ is now fluke.  GJ Nama.  I will be looking forward in warching more of her bouts.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on April 08, 2018, 07:05:01 AM
Lost my JJ bet.  Now wonder her line was fading...  But it's nice to see Namajunas finally becoming undisputed champ.  Now we can say her win vs JJ is now fluke.  GJ Nama.  I will be looking forward in warching more of her bouts.
I would say it was a close fight and i gave rounds first and second to Rose but three and four is won by Joanna Jedrzejczyk and the fifth one was a close one, but how on earth these judges got 49-46 even, i think the late take down by Rose in the fifth round sealed that round for her, but the scoring is just bull shit. When it comes to Khabib i do not understand why he was standing and trading in third and fourth round, he was popping in jabs but he showed some vulnerability in this fight.
 


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: leonair on April 08, 2018, 07:09:42 AM
I read most of the people here telling it was staged, I agree with you all. It's a pure business as usual.

After Conor McGregor fought inside the boxing ring I lose trust in him or maybe to the whole boxing industry and UFC because dignity as a fighter is not an issue to them anymore for as long as they get a big paycheck at the end of the day. Entertainment at its finest, you can really feel who is true and not nowadays, let them do what they want though but only those gullible will believe this shits.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: steveabrahams on April 08, 2018, 01:58:03 PM
I read most of the people here telling it was staged, I agree with you all. It's a pure business as usual.

After Conor McGregor fought inside the boxing ring I lose trust in him or maybe to the whole boxing industry and UFC because dignity as a fighter is not an issue to them anymore for as long as they get a big paycheck at the end of the day. Entertainment at its finest, you can really feel who is true and not nowadays, let them do what they want though but only those gullible will believe this shits.
No way it was staged, He is in jail right now bro because his stupid decision on the bus. I mean why they staged this? McGregor is so damn rich and i'm sure he still has much money from the last "money" fight against mayweather. What i want right now is McGregor vs Nurmagomedov!


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: pixie85 on April 08, 2018, 05:14:36 PM
Hahaha, Conor is really brilliant . You can say what you want, but this guy always provides entertainment, now by attacking a bus  ;D.

It's gonna cost him though. They are going to use him not only for the injuries but also lost opportunities for a fight = lost fame, breach of contract, and so on. He can also get kicked out of UFC or suspended (more likely suspended). I don't think it was worth it. He went too far this time, didn't think.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: btc_angela on April 08, 2018, 11:14:03 PM
Hahaha, Conor is really brilliant . You can say what you want, but this guy always provides entertainment, now by attacking a bus  ;D.

It's gonna cost him though. They are going to use him not only for the injuries but also lost opportunities for a fight = lost fame, breach of contract, and so on. He can also get kicked out of UFC or suspended (more likely suspended). I don't think it was worth it. He went too far this time, didn't think.

Agree. I don't think that it is staged as well. It already involves the police here and his mugshot all over the web right now. Maybe Conor is getting out of hand now, with all the money he earn from that fight against Floyd Mayweather.

Bad luck for Dana though, it will really cost him and the company not just only money but the reputation they have put throughout the years. This is not WWE, I understand this is business, but sometimes you have to put some distance with your fighters under contract. He's their current superstar that brings lot of money in the table, so its gonna be interesting as to what direction UFC will go here.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: bering on April 09, 2018, 08:55:43 AM
i have recently watching review matches Nurmagomedov vs Iaquinta and Nurmagomedov are fully dominate the game since round 1 and although he was win with unanimous decision but Nurmagomedov is deserve as the new champion however most of people in my country does not talking about this match but they more likely talking for why Mcgregor attack the bus


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: babygun on April 09, 2018, 05:50:23 PM
Hahaha, Conor is really brilliant . You can say what you want, but this guy always provides entertainment, now by attacking a bus  ;D.

It's gonna cost him though. They are going to use him not only for the injuries but also lost opportunities for a fight = lost fame, breach of contract, and so on. He can also get kicked out of UFC or suspended (more likely suspended). I don't think it was worth it. He went too far this time, didn't think.

Agree. I don't think that it is staged as well. It already involves the police here and his mugshot all over the web right now. Maybe Conor is getting out of hand now, with all the money he earn from that fight against Floyd Mayweather.

Bad luck for Dana though, it will really cost him and the company not just only money but the reputation they have put throughout the years. This is not WWE, I understand this is business, but sometimes you have to put some distance with your fighters under contract. He's their current superstar that brings lot of money in the table, so its gonna be interesting as to what direction UFC will go here.

I don't also think it was staged, Conor is just crazy  ;D. I am curious to see what Dana White will do with this, probably fine Conor and suspend him but I don't think they will kick him out of the UFC. Conor is still the money making machine in the UFC even though he hasn't fighted in more than a year now.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Hydrogen on April 09, 2018, 09:38:35 PM
Story so far: Conor was stripped of both the UFC featherweight belt @ 145 lbs and the lightweight belt @ 155 lbs. He is mad about that. Then Khabib and his team cornered Conor's teammate, Artem Lobov and there is a video clip of Khabib lightly slapping Artem on the head floating around youtube. Afterward Conor flew from ireland to new york to throw things through the windows of Khabib's bus in retaliation.

I think Conor's court hearing is in june or july 2018. He'll have to return to new york and face whatever charges people file against him. Initially Dana White said Conor would be sued to the full extent of the law. Later on, Dana seemed to calm down and said what Conor did wasn't as bad as things which happen in other sports. I don't think Conor will be sued too badly the damage he inflicted didn't seem too severe. Michael Chiesa got a few small cuts. And Ray Borg might have gotten glass in his eye. Don't think either injuries were too bad though.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Jating on April 09, 2018, 10:20:08 PM
Story so far: Conor was stripped of both the UFC featherweight belt @ 145 lbs and the lightweight belt @ 155 lbs. He is mad about that. Then Khabib and his team cornered Conor's teammate, Artem Lobov and there is a video clip of Khabib lightly slapping Artem on the head floating around youtube. Afterward Conor flew from ireland to new york to throw things through the windows of Khabib's bus in retaliation.

Correct mate, there's is also rumor that Khabib cornered Conor's team mate asking why he doesn't want to face Khabib (well we don't know if Conor doesn't want to fight Khabib or still hyping the fight).

I think Conor's court hearing is in june or july 2018. He'll have to return to new york and face whatever charges people file against him. Initially Dana White said Conor would be sued to the full extent of the law. Later on, Dana seemed to calm down and said what Conor did wasn't as bad as things which happen in other sports. I don't think Conor will be sued too badly the damage he inflicted didn't seem too severe. Michael Chiesa got a few small cuts. And Ray Borg might have gotten glass in his eye. Don't think either injuries were too bad though.

Maybe Dana that this drama will bring a lot of money in the table when all the suspensions and court hearings are done and Conor goes back to UFC and fight again. Him paying for the damages is nothing compare to the money he made with Floyd's fight so I think he can cover it. They are all business man so sooner or later when everything is calm down, we will see the drama unfold on the octagon itself, Khabib vs Conor, to break all UFC PPV records.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Lionidas on April 09, 2018, 11:37:42 PM
Khabib would destroy Connor and I think he knows this doing that tantrum on the bus and hurting the fighters on there.
McGregor can get deported out of the country since he was convicted in a US court of law and travelling on a visa.
Shouldn't he be more worried about this since now he has a criminal record? :-[


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on April 09, 2018, 11:51:21 PM
Correct mate, there's is also rumor that Khabib cornered Conor's team mate asking why he doesn't want to face Khabib (well we don't know if Conor doesn't want to fight Khabib or still hyping the fight).
The case with Artem Lobov is different, as he was talking a ton of shit about Khabib and calling him chicken in an Russian interview and that is the reason Khabib questioned this when they met in the hotel lobby and now it is a big drama show, even though the UFC lost some fights because of the altercation i am sure this will be the biggest pay per view fight and it will be a big one for them and they even started promoting the fight. :D


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: btc_angela on April 10, 2018, 09:22:08 AM
Khabib would destroy Connor and I think he knows this doing that tantrum on the bus and hurting the fighters on there.
McGregor can get deported out of the country since he was convicted in a US court of law and travelling on a visa.
Shouldn't he be more worried about this since now he has a criminal record? :-[

I don't know if he can destroy Conor but it will be interesting to see those 2 fighters squaring off. Well as MMA fans, this is want we have been wanting to see for years but Khabib got injured and Conor fights goes to boxing to make more money.

Is he still in the US though? I thought he went back already but I might be wrong. UFC might be thinking a lot this days and trying to figure out the best way to make a lot of money from this diva (Conor). I'm sure that Dana will not just simply removed from the roster, suspension will be enough in my opinion.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Hydrogen on April 10, 2018, 11:21:31 PM
The case with Artem Lobov is different, as he was talking a ton of shit about Khabib and calling him chicken in an Russian interview and that is the reason Khabib questioned this when they met in the hotel lobby and now it is a big drama show, even though the UFC lost some fights because of the altercation i am sure this will be the biggest pay per view fight and it will be a big one for them and they even started promoting the fight. :D

Did Artem really call Khabib a "chicken" in russian?  :-\  Artem did not look too happy about it @ 0:53 here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4TUsyQ7i4Y

I'm surprised Artem said anything to Khabib. Artem has a tendency to freeze against wrestlers/grapplers and go into survival mode. Khabib is one of the worst possible match ups for Artem.

This embedded ep probably has the most video footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za0qXbofvc0

Maybe a good place to start if anyone is interested in figuring out whether it was staged or real.   :)


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 12, 2018, 01:02:55 AM
Staged or not, the drama built up for Conor versus Khabib is now set. I hope the fight will be in Russia on September hehehe.

Dana's only job is now to make sure and help Conor settle all his legal problems and be cleared to fight at the soonest possible time.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Lionidas on April 12, 2018, 01:10:07 AM
Khabib would destroy Connor and I think he knows this doing that tantrum on the bus and hurting the fighters on there.
McGregor can get deported out of the country since he was convicted in a US court of law and travelling on a visa.
Shouldn't he be more worried about this since now he has a criminal record? :-[

I don't know if he can destroy Conor but it will be interesting to see those 2 fighters squaring off. Well as MMA fans, this is want we have been wanting to see for years but Khabib got injured and Conor fights goes to boxing to make more money.

Is he still in the US though? I thought he went back already but I might be wrong. UFC might be thinking a lot this days and trying to figure out the best way to make a lot of money from this diva (Conor). I'm sure that Dana will not just simply removed from the roster, suspension will be enough in my opinion.
Of course he is still in the United States.
That is where the hollywoodization of the world is and the money. ;D
Just look at what Rhonda Rousey did after losing her belt.
Ending up in the WWE and starting out in a Wrestlemania main event and submission hold on Triple H aint bad. :D
She must of made a million just for that appearance if her agent was smart enough. ;)


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on April 13, 2018, 09:07:31 PM
Did Artem really call Khabib a "chicken" in russian?  :-\  Artem did not look too happy about it @ 0:53 here:
Artem was supporting McGregor on why he is not defending the title and how Conor fought Chad Mendis even with injury and he added that Khabib is the real chicken as he used to pull out of fights because of injures and that were his words in a russian podcast interview


I'm surprised Artem said anything to Khabib. Artem has a tendency to freeze against wrestlers/grapplers and go into survival mode. Khabib is one of the worst possible match ups for Artem.
Artem is still in the UFC simply because he is a team member of Conor, his record is 2 wins and 4 defeats

Quote
Maybe a good place to start if anyone is interested in figuring out whether it was staged or real.   :)
The real plan was to come during the media briefing but they were late and so is the reason the current situation happened in the parking lot. Conor just acted like a crack head and it looks like UFC is not planning to suspend him for his actions and they might even book him against Khabib for the biggest pay day in UFC history, the total gate for the event was three million dollars which is the best show they had this year and that too with a lot of fights cancelled.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 14, 2018, 12:08:49 AM
@SaShiRaJaVu. If the fighter that did it was anyone else than Conor then I reckon he or she would be out of MMA forever. But if Conor does it, it makes the cut for episode 5 on Embedded hehehe.

I am starting to think the incident was staged.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: crwth on April 14, 2018, 12:14:28 AM
@SaShiRaJaVu. If the fighter that did it was anyone else than Conor then I reckon he or she would be out of MMA forever. But if Conor does it, it makes the cut for episode 5 on Embedded hehehe.

I am starting to think the incident was staged.
When I saw the news, and in the social media about that, I think it was already staged. I think that it was to get to hype up for the fight. Well, we will never know what the possibility is for the match, but they need more audience to earn more money.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Sithara007 on April 14, 2018, 04:56:29 AM
Staged or not, the drama built up for Conor versus Khabib is now set. I hope the fight will be in Russia on September hehehe.

If the fight is in Russia, then I am afraid that Conor McGregor will be going back to Dublin in an ambulance (either dead or alive). Nurmagomedov is invincible in home conditions and it will be fun if the fight actually happens in Grozny.

Edit: Just remembered that Nurmagomedov is an Avar from Dagestan. He won't be very keen to fight in Grozny.... What about Makhachkala as the venue?


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: eaLiTy on April 14, 2018, 06:40:39 PM
If the fight is in Russia, then I am afraid that Conor McGregor will be going back to Dublin in an ambulance (either dead or alive). Nurmagomedov is invincible in home conditions and it will be fun if the fight actually happens in Grozny.
Edit: Just remembered that Nurmagomedov is an Avar from Dagestan. He won't be very keen to fight in Grozny.... What about Makhachkala as the venue?
I really cannot imagine the beating Khabib Nurmagomedov is going to give to McGregor, but the problem is i never expected him to win against Aldo but he smoked him in seconds and when he was challenging Rafael dos Anjos for the title i was certain that he will smoke McGregor but that fight failed to materialized and finally when it came to Eddie Alvarez i thought he will defeat McGregor but the opposite happened, now my only hope is Khabib and Tony. :D
It would be the biggest fight in history if they fight in Russia, but with things are going it looks like they will face in Madison Square Garden by November, if McGregor really wanted to face Khabib.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Jating on April 22, 2018, 04:18:56 PM
If the fight is in Russia, then I am afraid that Conor McGregor will be going back to Dublin in an ambulance (either dead or alive). Nurmagomedov is invincible in home conditions and it will be fun if the fight actually happens in Grozny.
Edit: Just remembered that Nurmagomedov is an Avar from Dagestan. He won't be very keen to fight in Grozny.... What about Makhachkala as the venue?
I really cannot imagine the beating Khabib Nurmagomedov is going to give to McGregor, but the problem is i never expected him to win against Aldo but he smoked him in seconds and when he was challenging Rafael dos Anjos for the title i was certain that he will smoke McGregor but that fight failed to materialized and finally when it came to Eddie Alvarez i thought he will defeat McGregor but the opposite happened, now my only hope is Khabib and Tony. :D
It would be the biggest fight in history if they fight in Russia, but with things are going it looks like they will face in Madison Square Garden by November, if McGregor really wanted to face Khabib.

But during the fight with Aldo, dos Anjos and Alvarez, Conor is the top pick to win. Or maybe you are betting for the underdog to win and beat Conor. hehehe.

But we still have Tony and Khabib. Maybe one of them can win against Conor, who knows. I don't know if is will be the biggest fight in history if they ever fight in Russia, but hey, the 4 out of 5 top selling UFC PPV's was headlined by Conor(except #2 Lesnar vs Mir) and he still holds the record against Nate.



Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Sithara007 on April 23, 2018, 02:01:48 AM
If the fight is in Russia, then I am afraid that Conor McGregor will be going back to Dublin in an ambulance (either dead or alive). Nurmagomedov is invincible in home conditions and it will be fun if the fight actually happens in Grozny.
Edit: Just remembered that Nurmagomedov is an Avar from Dagestan. He won't be very keen to fight in Grozny.... What about Makhachkala as the venue?
I really cannot imagine the beating Khabib Nurmagomedov is going to give to McGregor, but the problem is i never expected him to win against Aldo but he smoked him in seconds and when he was challenging Rafael dos Anjos for the title i was certain that he will smoke McGregor but that fight failed to materialized and finally when it came to Eddie Alvarez i thought he will defeat McGregor but the opposite happened, now my only hope is Khabib and Tony. :D
It would be the biggest fight in history if they fight in Russia, but with things are going it looks like they will face in Madison Square Garden by November, if McGregor really wanted to face Khabib.

Even if the fight is going to happen in Madison Square Garden, I expect Khabib to win. Right now he is in unbelievable form and no matter how talented McGregor is, he is going to have a tough time against the Russian anywhere in the world.


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Post by: crwth on April 23, 2018, 11:00:05 AM
If the fight is in Russia, then I am afraid that Conor McGregor will be going back to Dublin in an ambulance (either dead or alive). Nurmagomedov is invincible in home conditions and it will be fun if the fight actually happens in Grozny.
Edit: Just remembered that Nurmagomedov is an Avar from Dagestan. He won't be very keen to fight in Grozny.... What about Makhachkala as the venue?
I really cannot imagine the beating Khabib Nurmagomedov is going to give to McGregor, but the problem is i never expected him to win against Aldo but he smoked him in seconds and when he was challenging Rafael dos Anjos for the title i was certain that he will smoke McGregor but that fight failed to materialized and finally when it came to Eddie Alvarez i thought he will defeat McGregor but the opposite happened, now my only hope is Khabib and Tony. :D
It would be the biggest fight in history if they fight in Russia, but with things are going it looks like they will face in Madison Square Garden by November, if McGregor really wanted to face Khabib.

Even if the fight is going to happen in Madison Square Garden, I expect Khabib to win. Right now he is in unbelievable form and no matter how talented McGregor is, he is going to have a tough time against the Russian anywhere in the world.
That's going to be really an interesting fight because of the matchup made with them. Hopefully they could give a great match for us to watch. Rooting for McGregor though.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on April 23, 2018, 11:27:56 PM
But we still have Tony and Khabib. Maybe one of them can win against Conor, who knows. I don't know if is will be the biggest fight in history if they ever fight in Russia, but hey, the 4 out of 5 top selling UFC PPV's was headlined by Conor(except #2 Lesnar vs Mir) and he still holds the record against Nate.
I think Tony and Khabib will beat Conor and then he could retire for good from MMA  or he will go down and challenge the 145 pound champion once again, but there is also a change that after two defeats he will call out Paulie for a boxing match. :D. Lesnar and Conor are the biggest pay per view stars and i think the record is with Lesnar .


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Jating on April 24, 2018, 10:33:15 PM
But we still have Tony and Khabib. Maybe one of them can win against Conor, who knows. I don't know if is will be the biggest fight in history if they ever fight in Russia, but hey, the 4 out of 5 top selling UFC PPV's was headlined by Conor(except #2 Lesnar vs Mir) and he still holds the record against Nate.
I think Tony and Khabib will beat Conor and then he could retire for good from MMA  or he will go down and challenge the 145 pound champion once again, but there is also a change that after two defeats he will call out Paulie for a boxing match. :D. Lesnar and Conor are the biggest pay per view stars and i think the record is with Lesnar .

I still think that Khabib has a high chance to win and beat Conor more than Tony is. I have nothing against Tony, but Khabib is a different animal and can overwhelm Conor in my opinion.

As for the PPV records:

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Event   Main Event                          Date                   PPV Buys
UFC 202   Diaz vs. McGregor   Aug 20, 2016      1,650,000

UFC 196   McGregor vs. Diaz   Mar 5, 2016      1,600,000

UFC 100   Lesnar (c) vs. Mir   Jul 11, 2009      1,600,000

UFC 205   Alvarez (c) vs. McGregor   Nov 12, 2016   1,300,000

UFC 194   Aldo (c) vs. McGregor   Dec 12, 2015      1,200,000

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_records#Highest_Pay-Per-View_buys[citation_needed]


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Sithara007 on April 25, 2018, 01:47:58 AM
But we still have Tony and Khabib. Maybe one of them can win against Conor, who knows. I don't know if is will be the biggest fight in history if they ever fight in Russia, but hey, the 4 out of 5 top selling UFC PPV's was headlined by Conor(except #2 Lesnar vs Mir) and he still holds the record against Nate.
I think Tony and Khabib will beat Conor and then he could retire for good from MMA  or he will go down and challenge the 145 pound champion once again, but there is also a change that after two defeats he will call out Paulie for a boxing match. :D. Lesnar and Conor are the biggest pay per view stars and i think the record is with Lesnar .

Conor McGregor is only 29 and you want him to retire from the MMA if he loses to Khabib? But from what I have seen, if you lose just one match then your morale will take a hit and it is going to be very difficult to get back to the winning mode. This is what happened to Fedor Emelianenko after he lost that match to Fabrício Werdum.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Baofeng on April 25, 2018, 11:56:48 PM
But we still have Tony and Khabib. Maybe one of them can win against Conor, who knows. I don't know if is will be the biggest fight in history if they ever fight in Russia, but hey, the 4 out of 5 top selling UFC PPV's was headlined by Conor(except #2 Lesnar vs Mir) and he still holds the record against Nate.
I think Tony and Khabib will beat Conor and then he could retire for good from MMA  or he will go down and challenge the 145 pound champion once again, but there is also a change that after two defeats he will call out Paulie for a boxing match. :D. Lesnar and Conor are the biggest pay per view stars and i think the record is with Lesnar .

Conor McGregor is only 29 and you want him to retire from the MMA if he loses to Khabib? But from what I have seen, if you lose just one match then your morale will take a hit and it is going to be very difficult to get back to the winning mode. This is what happened to Fedor Emelianenko after he lost that match to Fabrício Werdum.

Maybe Fedor has made a lot of money back then that's why he retire or past his prime already that's why he decided to just call it quit. For Conor, I don't think we will retire, maybe @SaShiRaJaVu is joking when he said that. Although he can also do it because the fight with Floyd is his biggest payday up to date, saw him in youtube driving with a new and customized sports car, thanks to Floyd. lol.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: bbc.reporter on April 26, 2018, 02:13:32 AM
@Baofeng. Fedor did not make a lot of money I reckon. Most MMA fighters of his era were not paid as high as they are paid in the UFC these days.

I expect Conor's retirement after making another $100 million from fighting Khabib and Nate Diaz hehe.


Title: Re: UFC 223: Nurmagomedov vs ??? Info Prediction, MCGREGOR ATTACKS BUS LOL!
Post by: Sithara007 on April 26, 2018, 07:27:29 AM
@Baofeng. Fedor did not make a lot of money I reckon. Most MMA fighters of his era were not paid as high as they are paid in the UFC these days.

I expect Conor's retirement after making another $100 million from fighting Khabib and Nate Diaz hehe.

$100 million is still quite small when you compare those to the earnings by professional boxers such as Floyd Mayweather and Gennady Golovkin. According to the latest stats, career earnings by Mayweather is well over $1 billion. And I really doubt whether Conor will get $100 million from two fights. My guess is much lower.