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Title: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: theymos on March 21, 2018, 07:21:49 PM
In the ad area, there's usually a 10% chance of getting a factoid. The full list of factoids is here: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adinfo . A few of them look like ads, or seem out of place - those are free factoids that Donators/VIPs get. Factoids are not normally supposed to look like ads.

Does anyone have any suggestions for new factoids?

 - They should be less than about 300 visible characters long.
 - They can contain links and basic styling.
 - A random forum user reading a random factoid should have a good chance of thinking that it was interesting, funny, or useful.

Also, while forum ads can't normally contain images, I would probably accept forum-related "fanart" here, perhaps in the style of 4chan's board banners. Max dimensions are 42px high by 500px wide.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: qwk on March 21, 2018, 07:26:02 PM
Would it be possible to display different factoids in foreign sub-forums?
Like, German factoids in "Deutsch"? ;)

Suggestions:
There is no "From"-Address in Bitcoin Transactions.
Bitcoin is not anonymous. It is pseudonymous.
A 51% attack does not mean your Bitcoins are insecure. Transactions may be.
Quantum Computers pose no real threat to Bitcoin for at least a decade.
Proof of Stake / Proof of Space is not a viable alternative to Proof of Work.
Whatever happens on the blockchain stays on the blockchain.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: OgNasty on March 21, 2018, 07:27:42 PM
The revolution will be monetized!


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on March 21, 2018, 07:35:00 PM
What about links to the stickied threads that newbies should be reading: rules, moderation policy, merit, trust, ranks, etc.

Also why not include that link to the full list? I had no idea the full list was accessible like that and have just enjoyed reading them all.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: pugman on March 21, 2018, 07:44:56 PM
I don't think I saw this in the list of factoids. So here's one I wanted this to be there in the factoid :
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If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry.~Satoshi


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: Jet Cash on March 21, 2018, 07:48:17 PM
What about links to the stickied threads that newbies should be reading: rules, moderation policy, merit, trust, ranks, etc.

Also why not include that link to the full list? I had no idea the full list was accessible like that and have just enjoyed reading them all.

Sounds like a good idea, especially if it can be promoted on the beginners board.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: actmyname on March 21, 2018, 07:48:26 PM
I'm rather surprised there isn't a quote about Bitcoin Pizza Day. It is (or should be) well-known across the boards and I assume something small like "Celebrate Bitcoin Pizza Day on May 22nd!" would contrive a bit of a smile.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: cellard on March 21, 2018, 11:51:27 PM
-Bitcoin coin inflation curve is based on gold's inflation curve
-The worst attack for Bitcoin is social attacks with the intention to hardfork it
-None of the people that claimed to be Satoshi Nakamoto are Satoshi Nakamoto
-99% of altcoins are scams


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: theymos on March 22, 2018, 12:04:55 AM
I added to my OP:
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Also, while forum ads can't normally contain images, I would probably accept forum-related "fanart" here, perhaps in the style of 4chan's board banners. Max dimensions are 42px high by 500px wide.

I don't think I saw this in the list of factoids. So here's one I wanted this to be there in the factoid :
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If you don’t believe me or don’t get it, I don’t have time to try to convince you, sorry.~Satoshi

I'm not a big fan of that one. While it does speak to the crypto-anarchist viewpoint of bypassing politics, I feel like it's more often read as an excuse to say, "I'm right, you're wrong, and I'm not going to listen to any arguments," which is not a good attitude in general.

Would it be possible to display different factoids in foreign sub-forums?

It is possible, but I'm not sure that it's worth the trouble... If a local community has several factoids and really wants it, I'll probably do it.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: Quickseller on March 22, 2018, 01:23:01 AM
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If you want to save on transaction fees, you should receive bitcoin to a SegWit address, when you need to spend this bitcoin, your transaction will take up less blockspace than if you received this transaction to a traditional address

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If you make a post that is objectively high-quality, you might receive merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28856522#msg28856522) for your post. For every 2 merit you receive, you can send one merit to another user, and some users receive spendable merit (that does not affect their merit score) they can send for others' posts


Quote from: not sure if you want to use that thread, or another one
By default, you will automatically have a group of users in your trust network, who collectively set trust scores. After you gain familiarity with the community, you should add and exclude users to your trust list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust) whose ratings you trust. See this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0) thread for additional details about the trust system


Quote
Are you having a bad day? This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VXEDUVkbt8) might make you laugh


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: esmanthra on March 22, 2018, 05:16:00 AM
Perhaps some quotes about forum rules would be useful. For example:

Spam is something that either is breaking the rules in stickies in various subforums or is overall low quality, off-topic or intended to advertise.

Ban evasion is not allowed. If it becomes known that someone who was banned created a new account, then they'll be banned again

Anything that'd get you expelled from a university for plagiarism will get you permabanned from this forum, regardless of your rank.

Or anything from unofficial FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg7955645#post_faq).

Also there could be some extra facts from forum history or some notes about terminology (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126798.0).



Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: hilariousetc on March 22, 2018, 09:37:32 AM
How about DON'T COPY AND PASTE OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS OR PASS OFF CONTENT YOU FOUND ONLINE AS YOUR OWN. All in caps for emphasis  :D.

I agree with others that some of the most important rules should be shown. Maybe included a link to the full rules at the end of every one.

What about links to the stickied threads that newbies should be reading: rules, moderation policy, merit, trust, ranks, etc.

Also why not include that link to the full list? I had no idea the full list was accessible like that and have just enjoyed reading them all.

Sounds like a good idea, especially if it can be promoted on the beginners board.

Yeah, this would be my suggestion. I started writing a welcome guide (which I need to get around to finishing) which will be quite short but include the most basic rules and frequently asked questions but will have links to the other more in depth guides and stickies and theymos agreed it could be linked to or shown when members signed up. Hopefully people will stop asking the same questions then or getting banned for copy and pasting and spamming ref links etc.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on March 22, 2018, 11:21:24 AM
I started writing a welcome guide (which I need to get around to finishing) which will be quite short but include the most basic rules and frequently asked questions but will have links to the other more in depth guides and stickies and theymos agreed it could be linked to or shown when members signed up.

Don't want to move off topic, but this sounds like a great idea. Would be happy to offer to help writing/formatting/proof reading if you like.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: blackmagical on March 22, 2018, 12:54:36 PM
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Look at some people here just begging for merits just to rank. I just can’t believe it. Nothings for free now boys. Earn it, merits are like respect, if you can’t show respect, you won’t get any. So earn it bud. Earn it just like every single one of us low rankers.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: DooMAD on April 01, 2018, 11:08:53 AM
For the existing factoids, is it perhaps best to remove the two references to MultiBit, as it's no longer under active development?  I mean, I can't imagine anyone would actually go and download it just because they happened to have those particular factoids displayed to them, but still.

Also, it might be too long, but I've always loved a quote from this article (https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/why-bitcoin-matters/):

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Bitcoin gives us, for the first time, a way for one Internet user to transfer a unique piece of digital property to another Internet user, such that the transfer is guaranteed to be safe and secure, everyone knows that the transfer has taken place, and nobody can challenge the legitimacy of the transfer. The consequences of this breakthrough are hard to overstate.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: icopress on April 01, 2018, 04:05:12 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for new factoids?

theymos, How about values ​​and philosophy?

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Once you understand that the merit system is designed to help you become part of the digital heritage, you stop pursuing the goal of being meaningful, you will become the one who sets the pace for the community.
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We decided to invest our money and belief in a mathematical structure free from politics and human errors

 ;)


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: RocketSingh on April 01, 2018, 08:12:52 PM
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Bitcoin Protocol: Permanent Permissionless Trustless Transparent Immutable Irreversible Inviolable Uncensorable Distributed Decentralized

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If Bitcoin is a religion, I am religious.



Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: LeGaulois on April 01, 2018, 08:58:37 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for new factoids?


Yes, I do have suggestions:

- There are a lot of people working on great projects, there are also people working on junk and marketing it as "Bitcoin"

- Local forums need moderators, Theymos should do something, it's a total mess.

- Great Project Sir

- Merits broke my life



Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: apoorvlathey on April 15, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
Also, while forum ads can't normally contain images, I would probably accept forum-related "fanart" here, perhaps in the style of 4chan's board banners. Max dimensions are 42px high by 500px wide.

You may consider my simple fanart here :


Size : 42x500px
URL : https://i.imgur.com/18sHAWZ.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/18sHAWZ.jpg)


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: detector on April 25, 2018, 05:21:32 PM
Something fresh will attract more attention so it would be great !


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: Little Mouse on September 17, 2022, 03:49:51 PM
Bump

Can we have this? LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0)
As per my observation, a lot of ro0um users don't use the system correctly which is very much important to have a more distributed trust system and the proper use of it. If in factoids, this thread is promoted, I think, some people would at least try to use the system correctly which definitely would have added some benefits to the forum.

I would really appreciate it if the community shares their opinion on this.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: OgNasty on September 17, 2022, 08:08:03 PM
Bump

Can we have this? LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0)
As per my observation, a lot of ro0um users don't use the system correctly which is very much important to have a more distributed trust system and the proper use of it. If in factoids, this thread is promoted, I think, some people would at least try to use the system correctly which definitely would have added some benefits to the forum.

I would really appreciate it if the community shares their opinion on this.

No.  If LoyceV wants to promote his opinions on the trust network via a factoid slot, he can put his money where his mouth is and donate 10 BTC to the forum to become a donator like the rest of us did.  I won't even go into how he has very little real world interaction to even justify having an opinion on the trust network, let alone his past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers making him a terrible choice to even consider his input. 


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on September 18, 2022, 09:30:18 PM
Can we have this? LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0)

Regardless of one's opinion of LoyceV, I reviewed the thread in question, and I believe that his "guide" generally conforms with the intended use of the trust system. It is not perfect, and there are a few revisions I might suggest if I had editorial authority over the post (which I don't), but I think it should generally help forum members who are unfamiliar with the trust system.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: _BlackStar on September 18, 2022, 10:25:47 PM
Bump

Can we have this? LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0)
As per my observation, a lot of ro0um users don't use the system correctly which is very much important to have a more distributed trust system and the proper use of it. If in factoids, this thread is promoted, I think, some people would at least try to use the system correctly which definitely would have added some benefits to the forum.

I would really appreciate it if the community shares their opinion on this.
I tend to think that LoyceV's guide thread deserves to be pinned at the top of board to get a lot of user attention instead of being promoted in the factoids slot. I don't know what LoyceV is quite happy with your suggestion or not, but I think that this guide thread is also useful for attracting the attention of users who have not understood how to properly set up their trust system.

What do you think?


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 18, 2022, 11:51:54 PM
I would really appreciate it if the community shares their opinion on this.
If adding it in factoids is to controversial, I am not sure how but reading few response above I get the feeling, the mods can easily stick it on the Beginners & Help board. After all this is an informative topic and a lot of users are benefiting from it. At least they have a guide in front of them if not it's a complete guide.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: LoyceV on September 19, 2022, 10:04:03 AM
I believe that his "guide" generally conforms with the intended use of the trust system.
So does theymos:
LoyceV's guide seems reasonable.
And the 16 translations (which I think is a record on Bitcointalk) indicate that many forum members seem to agree.

It is not perfect, and there are a few revisions I might suggest
By all means: feel free to post suggestions in my topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0) :)

I tend to think that LoyceV's guide thread deserves to be pinned at the top of board to get a lot of user attention instead of being promoted in the factoids slot.
I wouldn't mind, but I also don't think it matters much: pinned threads are easily overlooked. I just bump my thread once in a while.

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I don't know what LoyceV is quite happy with your suggestion or not
I responded to Little Mouse on this subject in My Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0):
And have you ever asked theymos to put this thread in factoids?
Nope. Theymos knows it exists (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.msg53743417#msg53743417), if he wants it to be a factoid, he doesn't need me to ask him.



I've said it before, but I'd like to see custom Trust lists promoted more. Decentralize it further, instead of relying on DefaultTrust!


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: JollyGood on September 19, 2022, 03:07:42 PM
No.  If LoyceV wants to promote his opinions on the trust network via a factoid slot, he can put his money where his mouth is and donate 10 BTC to the forum to become a donator like the rest of us did.
Does that mean under any and all circumstances, regardless, the only way for anybody to get a factoid slot is to pay 10 BTC?

Years ago that was something donors could do easily but today the value of a single Bitcoin has skyrocketed to $70,000 before dropping down to $20,000 or so where it is now. For any forum member to be donating 10 BTC to the forum seems out of the question now.

I won't even go into how he has very little real world interaction to even justify having an opinion on the trust network
I am obviously missing something here. How does having very little real world interaction have anything to do with having an opinion on the trust network?

let alone his past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers making him a terrible choice to even consider his input.
You have fairly strong views on this matter.

All this is all new to me. I had no idea about any of this therefore cannot say whether your claims are accurate or not but it certainly would make interesting reading when I have spare time.

Can you elaborate on why you stated LoyceV has past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers or at least provide some links to threads detailing the allegations or incidents?


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: Crypt0S0ul on September 19, 2022, 03:18:13 PM
No. If LoyceV wants to promote his opinions on the trust network via a factoid slot, he can put his money where his mouth is and donate 10 BTC to the forum to become a donator like the rest of us did. I won't even go into how he has very little real world interaction to even justify having an opinion on the trust network, let alone his past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers making him a terrible choice to even consider his input.  

I thought you were a Troll. From where did you see LoyceV wanted to promote his opinions via a factoid slot? If so, Would you mind linking to his post or quoting his post? I know you cannot because I don't think he wants it. Little Mouse was the guy who asked for it. But, Look like Little Mouse kicked on your balls by saying this, and you are here to dump some of your bullshit opinions. If you disagree with his guide/opinion, please post on his thread and point out what you do not believe and what is wrong. theymos believe his guide is reasonable. Why do you suggest LoyceV Donate 10 BTC and get a Donator Tag? He does not earn money by scamming people and stealing people's money. He does not make money from Ponzi scheme Scams. So, there is no point in donating 10 BTC to promote a guide on factoids. You donated 10 BTC when BTC was like $10, maybe? Or maybe when it was even lower?

Don't Compare yourself with LoyceV.
Don't expect a reply from him too. He is thick-skinned.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: LoyceV on September 19, 2022, 03:28:37 PM
All this is all new to me. I had no idea about any of this therefore cannot say whether your claims are accurate or not but it certainly would make interesting reading when I have spare time.
The guy on my ignore list loves going off-topic to smear my reputation. He's been doing that for years now, which all started after I didn't support him in his little feut with Vod and got worse after I made his tacky behaviour (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202391.msg53232702#msg53232702) public. Usually I ignore him, once in a while I post some facts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55840262#msg55840262) which he never responds to. He could just post in my reputation thread, but instead does it in various topics, so once in a while I feel like I have to go off-topic too to prevent people like yourself from believing him.
I don't keep track of all the forum space I've wasted on this matter already, but here's more reading material (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098623.msg56546994#msg56546994).

Sorry for going off-topic.

Don't expect a reply from him too. He is thick-skinned.
I can respond to JollyGood though :)


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: digaran on April 21, 2023, 06:06:49 PM
While forum is not advertising and factoids are old and repetitive, it would be a good idea to include quotes from some of the brightest writers, philosophers and scientists, it doesn't necessarily need to be about bitcoin, they could teach people something about life. No need for political statements  though.😉


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: OgNasty on April 21, 2023, 08:22:15 PM
Can you elaborate on why you stated LoyceV has past support for documented extortionists and trust abusers or at least provide some links to threads detailing the allegations or incidents?

Sure.  LoyceV is a piece of shit who uses the trust network to try and punish people he doesn't agree with.  He spreads lies about what I do, twists the truth to make it seem like my good deeds are bad, and in spite of years worth of evidence that Vod was abusing the trust network and attempting to extort me, he still continued to include Vod in the DT network and probably does still to this day (I don't care enough to even check, but LoyceV wouldn't be a total piece of shit if he corrected this behavior, so I assume he hasn't).  

There is a thread with dozens of pages outlining some of Vod's bad deeds that were overlooked by LoyceV, suchmoon, and their little band of trust network abusers that have made a mockery of DT but rather than have you waste your time sifting through years of trolling, this post below outlines the type of behavior that some of our "trusted" DT members support.  Sort of makes sense why they all advertise for money laundering mixers that have to be shut down by the US Government and their signature campaign crew distrusts me for sounding the alarm even though I was 100% correct, they were 100% wrong, and now this forum no longer allows it's staff to engage in this advertising behavior.  We have a Default Trust network now that punishes people for warning about illegal behavior and rewards those who do nothing but troll the people who are doing real things on this forum.  I'm sure that's what satoshi envisioned for this place...  People like LoyceV are the reason why literally 99.9%  of the talent has fled these boards.  Want to give him a free factoid?  Fuck him.  Have him pay the cost for once instead of milking this forum while supporting extortionists and money laundering operations that have turned this place into a shell of it's former existence.

Vod's latest extortion attempt:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352637.0


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: PowerGlove on April 26, 2023, 11:03:49 AM
Sure.  LoyceV is a piece of shit who uses the trust network to try and punish people he doesn't agree with. [...]
If I were you, I'd cool it with posts like these. I can only guess at what you're trying to accomplish with them, but I'd be surprised if they're having the intended effect.

And since you raised the issue of "milking" the forum: have you ever apologized for the staggeringly bad judgment behind your decision to secretly profit from the forum's funds?

I don't think that OgNasty should've collected airdrops via forum BTC, but collecting and keeping airdrops was not prohibited by the agreement, and the forum has no agreement-wise claim on those coins.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: Knight Hider on September 17, 2023, 10:41:13 AM
New factoid idea:
"Each 24 word seed covers all possible Bitcoin addresses. Think about what this means for a while, it's truly amazing."

--Knight Hider


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: robelneo on September 19, 2023, 04:03:07 PM


It is possible, but I'm not sure that it's worth the trouble... If a local community has several factoids and really wants it, I'll probably do it.

I vote that it should be added and it's much better if it's written in a local language, the factoids are submitted by the local community, so how about every local board create a thread of local factoids that they can submit to the admin to show on their board?


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: DooMAD on September 19, 2023, 05:58:15 PM
Incidentally, depending on their setup, not everyone will see these factoids.  Ever since I started using 'uBlock Origin', I don't recall seeing any on my PC or laptop.  Pretty sure that entire div gets blocked by default because it gets interpreted as an advertisement.

Still see them when I access the forums on my phone, though.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 19, 2023, 07:28:23 PM
Incidentally, depending on their setup, not everyone will see these factoids.  Ever since I started using 'uBlock Origin', I don't recall seeing any on my PC or laptop.  Pretty sure that entire div gets blocked by default because it gets interpreted as an advertisement.
It is part of the "uBlock filters - Ads" default filter list.

If you want to turn them back on, then open your uBlock Origin settings, go to the "My Filters" tabs, and paste the following:

Code:
bitcointalk.org#@#:xpath(//span[contains(text(),"Advert")]/../..)
bitcointalk.org#@#span[class]:has-text(Advert):upward(1)
bitcointalk.org#@#.fpcontainer

Click on "Apply changes" and then refresh the page. They should be back again.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: SamReomo on September 19, 2023, 07:49:22 PM
Incidentally, depending on their setup, not everyone will see these factoids.  Ever since I started using 'uBlock Origin', I don't recall seeing any on my PC or laptop.  Pretty sure that entire div gets blocked by default because it gets interpreted as an advertisement.
It is part of the "uBlock filters - Ads" default filter list.
~Snip~
Click on "Apply changes" and then refresh the page. They should be back again.

I really didn't know that uBlock has such filters but I hope that DooMAD will see the factoids once again after following the steps that you mentioned in your post. But, what if someone completely disables uBlock on bitcointalk.org? I believe if someone disables uBlock on bitcointalk.org then he/she may see the factoids once again. I don't really use that extension myself but I believe that it could be disabled on a particular site.


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 19, 2023, 08:00:17 PM
Well yes, of course you can disable it entirely on specific sites if you like - you literally just click on the big power button icon in the extension on the site you want to disable it on. But uBlock Origin is far more than just an ad blocker, and there are many other things you can use it for which maybe you don't want to disable. For example, someone asked fairly recently about a way to hide the ignore button which they kept clicking on by mistake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461934.msg62641090#msg62641090


Title: Re: Ideas for new factoids?
Post by: SamReomo on September 19, 2023, 08:12:39 PM
Well yes, of course you can disable it entirely on specific sites if you like - you literally just click on the big power button icon in the extension on the site you want to disable it on. But uBlock Origin is far more than just an ad blocker, and there are many other things you can use it for which maybe you don't want to disable. For example, someone asked fairly recently about a way to hide the ignore button which they kept clicking on by mistake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461934.msg62641090#msg62641090

Well, then it's way better to use the filter code that you provided in the post because sometimes we can utilize the uBlock in a better way like blocking certain elements that we don't want on a site or specifically on this forum. The ignore button hiding filter that you shared in that thread is awesome and helpful for many users. I truly appreciate your reply and the filters that you have provided! I must say that I learnt something valuable today!