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Title: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 28, 2013, 08:56:40 AM See how we make sure your coins are safe! https://ice-dice.com/en/security Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: Rannasha on October 28, 2013, 09:11:08 AM You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page :)
Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: b!z on October 28, 2013, 09:23:02 AM "as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults"
"Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers" Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 28, 2013, 04:52:16 PM there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins
Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 28, 2013, 05:39:53 PM there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins Hey troll, why don't you show some proof before you blackmail and spread false claims? I'm disgusted by people like you on the internet, karma is going to get you one day. You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page :) "as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults" "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers" Thanks Fixed! Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 28, 2013, 08:01:14 PM there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins Hey troll, why don't you show some proof before you blackmail and spread false claims? I'm disgusted by people like you on the internet, karma is going to get you one day. You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page :) "as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults" "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers" Thanks Fixed! >>mixing illegal money will get you caught up, maybe someday you will regret encouraging people to use your site for this activity<< http://www.unodc.org/images/money-laundering/money_laundering_scheme_big.jpg Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 12:11:57 AM there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins Hey troll, why don't you show some proof before you blackmail and spread false claims? I'm disgusted by people like you on the internet, karma is going to get you one day. You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page :) "as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults" "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers" Thanks Fixed! >>mixing illegal money will get you caught up, maybe someday you will regret encouraging people to use your site for this activity<< http://www.unodc.org/images/money-laundering/money_laundering_scheme_big.jpg Hey ASICSRUS, why don't you stop making new accounts to troll and start doing something productive and contribute to the community? I'm ashamed of people like you on the internet. Bitcoin deserves better. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: knowitnothing on October 29, 2013, 12:54:45 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.
It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: nahtnam on October 29, 2013, 01:00:08 AM Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!
Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: knowitnothing on October 29, 2013, 01:07:31 AM Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 29, 2013, 01:21:16 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. funny +not only that >> just like yesterday he was asking ME about United Kingdom legal requirements! WTF? lololll Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: nahtnam on October 29, 2013, 01:45:09 AM Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 01:49:10 AM Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! no, it's just a piece of paper with the private key of the wallet stored in multiple banks. Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? Whats there to explain? Coinbase knows whats up and I'm learning from them. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 29, 2013, 01:57:10 AM Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! no, it's just a piece of paper with the private key of the wallet stored in multiple banks. Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? Whats there to explain? Coinbase knows whats up and I'm learning from them. Explain why you think its ok stealing from people with your shoddy, poorly coded site?..Alpha testing with real money and holding on to my BTCitcoins? hello? i'm not going anywhere till you pay me out what you owe me! What jurisdiction are you in? thanks Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: knowitnothing on October 29, 2013, 02:09:06 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 29, 2013, 02:12:10 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. just wait till they begin throwing wrenches! This guy has no clue!!! lol Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 02:14:14 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: nahtnam on October 29, 2013, 02:22:25 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: knowitnothing on October 29, 2013, 02:28:05 AM Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. What ? There must be some misunderstanding somewhere. Here is the relevant part from the previous reply that hints I'm not talking about hosting your server at a specific place: "The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site." These couple of places I'm talking about are companies with actual security policies, I'm certainly not talking about hosting companies offering VPS, VDS, dedicated, etc.. Security doesn't get fixed by changing your hosting company. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 02:35:12 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. What ? There must be some misunderstanding somewhere. Here is the relevant part from the previous reply that hints I'm not talking about hosting your server at a specific place: "The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site." These couple of places I'm talking about are companies with actual security policies, I'm certainly not talking about hosting companies offering VPS, VDS, dedicated, etc.. Security doesn't get fixed by changing your hosting company. oh ok yeah there was a mis understanding. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 29, 2013, 02:43:13 AM since you you brought up Apple Computers(NASDAQ: AAPL)
*Did you even bother to check with them to see if it's ok to use their iphone likeness and design? just wondering...! Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: knowitnothing on October 29, 2013, 02:46:33 AM since you you brought up Apple Computers(NASDAQ: AAPL) *Did you even bother to check with them to see if it's ok to use their iphone likeness and design? just wondering...! The layout is due to jquerymobile (http://jquerymobile.com/), shall we keep on topic ? Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 29, 2013, 02:57:54 AM since you you brought up Apple Computers(NASDAQ: AAPL) *Did you even bother to check with them to see if it's ok to use their iphone likeness and design? just wondering...! The layout is due to jquerymobile (http://jquerymobile.com/), shall we keep on topic ? my bad totally off topic i guess! ? http://www.famouslogos.net/images/bmw-logo-evolution.jpg Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: nahtnam on October 29, 2013, 03:06:19 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 04:00:53 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: nahtnam on October 29, 2013, 04:16:08 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 04:59:19 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing. The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: nahtnam on October 29, 2013, 05:04:30 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing. The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true. ok... That clears things up... Just out of curiosity though, how and why do you send money all over the world, and to banks? What if you need some of it? Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 05:20:46 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing. The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true. ok... That clears things up... Just out of curiosity though, how and why do you send money all over the world, and to banks? What if you need some of it? How it works is each bitcoin wallet has a private key (the file which allows you to control the wallet). If you write the down the key, it looks something like this: "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3", on a piece of paper, and store it in a bank vault. You will ensure that in the case where your computer dies, you can go to the bank vault, take out the piece of paper, go on a new computer, download bitcoin wallet and type in the private key "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3" and restore the coins. It's a safety feature to avoid loss of funds due to hardware failures. Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: nahtnam on October 29, 2013, 05:25:05 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing. The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true. ok... That clears things up... Just out of curiosity though, how and why do you send money all over the world, and to banks? What if you need some of it? How it works is each bitcoin wallet has a private key (the file which allows you to control the wallet). If you write the down the key, it looks something like this: "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3", on a piece of paper, and store it in a bank vault. You will ensure that in the case where your computer dies, you can go to the bank vault, take out the piece of paper, go on a new computer, download bitcoin wallet and type in the private key "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3" and restore the coins. It's a safety feature to avoid loss of funds due to hardware failures. OK. I see... You have access to the funds, but just in case the private key is written down and in a vault, right? Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 05:54:12 AM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing. The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true. ok... That clears things up... Just out of curiosity though, how and why do you send money all over the world, and to banks? What if you need some of it? How it works is each bitcoin wallet has a private key (the file which allows you to control the wallet). If you write the down the key, it looks something like this: "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3", on a piece of paper, and store it in a bank vault. You will ensure that in the case where your computer dies, you can go to the bank vault, take out the piece of paper, go on a new computer, download bitcoin wallet and type in the private key "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3" and restore the coins. It's a safety feature to avoid loss of funds due to hardware failures. OK. I see... You have access to the funds, but just in case the private key is written down and in a vault, right? yes Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 29, 2013, 12:51:42 PM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing. The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true. ok... That clears things up... Just out of curiosity though, how and why do you send money all over the world, and to banks? What if you need some of it? How it works is each bitcoin wallet has a private key (the file which allows you to control the wallet). If you write the down the key, it looks something like this: "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3", on a piece of paper, and store it in a bank vault. You will ensure that in the case where your computer dies, you can go to the bank vault, take out the piece of paper, go on a new computer, download bitcoin wallet and type in the private key "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3" and restore the coins. It's a safety feature to avoid loss of funds due to hardware failures. this will not help you as this brings the illegal funds under government regulation, but i'm sure you have this part sorted out ..lol Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: icedicedavid on October 29, 2013, 09:13:32 PM Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe. It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone. To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be. Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet. Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page! Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292 Yes. Could you please explain the similarities? My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post. Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users. What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out. Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase? no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did. The thing is that you (almost) copied coinbase's statement word for word. for the bug bounty program? Well I noticed that your security page is very similar to Coinbase's and someone else noticed the bug thing. The security page I typed everything 100% myself (hence all the grammar and spelling mistakes people found earlier). I didn't write anything that was not true. ok... That clears things up... Just out of curiosity though, how and why do you send money all over the world, and to banks? What if you need some of it? How it works is each bitcoin wallet has a private key (the file which allows you to control the wallet). If you write the down the key, it looks something like this: "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3", on a piece of paper, and store it in a bank vault. You will ensure that in the case where your computer dies, you can go to the bank vault, take out the piece of paper, go on a new computer, download bitcoin wallet and type in the private key "544VdNCEzTh3fLz3" and restore the coins. It's a safety feature to avoid loss of funds due to hardware failures. this will not help you as this brings the illegal funds under government regulation, but i'm sure you have this part sorted out ..lol sure buddy Title: Re: Ice-Dice.com On Security Post by: haightst on October 29, 2013, 10:35:41 PM what?
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