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There are higher ranks hold smerits and does not care about givimg merits especially to newbies and jr.member could we punish them so that it will be given? Literally they have high standards in giving merits or else they were just lazy in giving merits. How i wish those smerits if not given im a period of time will be deducted on their merits.

Yes, I have high standards for who I give out merit to, and why shouldn't I?  Why should I reward assholes like you who babble and whine, and can't even do so coherently?  And I would hope others do likewise.  That's precisely the reason the merit system exists in the first place.

There's nothing you can do about it except go into an impotent rage-a-thon like this or cry yourself to sleep at night over it.  You decide.

It is possible that the higher ranked people are not encountering sufficient meritable posts. Some of them will have high standards, but that is life. You just have to improve your posting quality to meet those standards.

In any case, Theymos has said that he might consider decaying unused smerit.

This person is a spammer s/he already created a 3 thread in 3 post all in meta section the mastermind could also cooking a masterpiece to sabotage every ounce of kindness this community has avoid at all cost.

No, I am a selfish guy. I do not want to give merit to the likes of you. And yes, punish me please. I like it hard.

But you know, if you just posted a useful thread, I would have given you a merit. I mean, there is no point in keeping merit points to yourself as there are many qualified people out there. However, most of people on this forum are shitposters. I hardly can find a really great post. And hey, keep up the good work. I like your thread. Please, punish me.

This guys seems like he's really spamming the Meta section and its really annoying. Looks like this guy's account is a farmed account and recently made to intentionally spam Meta section. Because if it is not a farmed account, he will not even attempt to post here in Meta section in the first place containing and titled about information that a Real Newbie will never ask.

It is obviously that he's just making this threads to increase his post count which is a wrong move.

No. Why should people be forced to give them out if they don't want to? This seems to me like how certain countries 'force' people by law to vote. All it will do is make people give them to posts that likely don't deserve it just to avoid 'punishment'. Also, what punishments are you suggesting exactly and what if users just become active for x amount of time? People should be free to do what they wan't with their merit, but if theymos wants to make it decay after x amount of time I wouldn't be against that but don't think it's necessary.

You are so imposed on milking out the sMerits of people that you made two threads regarding the same concern:
This thread and this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3220858.0) ::)

Theymos made it clear that sMerits unused will be decaying after sometime. This will solve the probable issue that "some high ranked member might try to rank up their alt-account" - however that does not mean members are going to distribute sMerits at random to  newbie shitposters who dont read the rules and spam threads like nutjobs and dipshits.

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Its easy to blame the system for the problems that you face, while the only problem in the system is you.

It's a lot of work hunting round to find posts to reward. Many of us have quite busy lives, and we visit the forum for relaxation and the exchange of information and help. There are so many necro-bumps, repeated posts and rehashed quotes, that it is quite difficult to find meritable posts. One often ends up putting more people on ignore, than members to reward. When one does find a thread that has potential, it is usually filled with repeated quotes of the same long post . If you guys want to receive merits, then stop clogging the threads with rubbish, so that we can see the posts that are worth rewarding.

Punishing sMerit holders is one of the stupidest suggestions. All they will do is to give the lot to Satoshi, or some other historic figure, and then when they do happen to spot a post that they like, they won't have any merit to award.

The forum is also for relaxation and social interaction between like minded members.

For this, there is a wife or a right hand, to whom that! At the moment I have a right hand for relaxation  ;D ;D

For social interaction between like minded members https://emojio.ru/images/apple-b/1f44d.png

Personally I believe you should be punished for making this thread, either a forum ban or you should be raped by a goat. See just as reasonable as this stupid thread

The forum is place for generous, kind-hearted members; not for spammers, merit beggars, merit farmers, and account farmers.
Merit system is powerful supplemental tool to help us build such a forum for all of us.

Because of people like you, I wish I had a 'destroy sMerit' option. You and people like you do not deserve to be here, let alone get any of my (or other peoples') points.

I am new to this bitcointalk and my friend told me to study about this thing, and after reading some informative details, ive came across about giving merits. Well merits are given to those users who are actively helping the community, not asking for merits or trying to be merited, thats what i understand in this thing.

One thing is merits are given freely to those who are deserving to be merited.

Please read this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3182178.msg32957806#msg32957806.

I have really little time to do some posting on this forum, so I'm trying to use my time to create useful posts, and meanwhile, sometimes if I find a post that deserves a merit, I give merit. If I don't have time to search for posts, to spend my sMerits, I can't give out those sMerits, because I won't give out merits randomly, especially for newbies...
So if you think I deserve a punishment, give it to me baby :)
What kind of punishment do you think will be really efficient for these kind of people, who don't have time?
E.g. sMerits, which has not been given out for more than 2 months, will be deleted? Fine for me, but is this fine for you? If my sMerits will decrease, I will think twice before I will spend the remaining precious ones, so there's even smaller chance that I'll give it to a newbie like you. Think it over again...

I'm one of the guys with Smerits to award. Please note the use of the word 'award' and not the word 'give'. I take the fact that the community has given me merits to award seriously, and I don't think they should be sprayed around for newbie spammers to earn more money from their activities which are damaging Bitcoin Talk. 

Instead of saying 'lets punish people who don't award sMerits' lets turn it around and say 'lets punish the people who make it hard for responsible members to award merits'.

There is already a punishment laid out by the admins for merit hodlers. Its been stated that after a while, all unused  merit will be decayed into the system. So I think, that there wont be any point assigning another punishment to them. Lets just wait and see how the admins handles it.

I have over 200 sMerits available, and rarely do I award merit to posts. Most of the time I encounter good and informative post only to find out that it's a rehash of an article or just a copy-pasted one. Anyways though, AFAIK sMerits that aren't awarded for some time would just be gone, and I'm cool with that, and I think it's already a 'punishment' of some form. Instead of ranting about the merit holders not awarding merits, why not strive harder to receive a well-deserved one?

You say punishment, but I would much rather my unspent merit decays to nothing than gets awarded to some shitposter.



Because that's difficult. Much easier just to create yet another topic bitching and moaning about merit and hope there someone who is as big an idiot as you are who will merit your bitching and moaning.

I agree that not much merit seems to be handed out now compared to when the system was first put in place, this thread notwithstanding, but punishing people for not giving out merit is insane.

This is a free forum, and asking for punishment is the stupidest idea I have seen here.

Instead of asking for punishment against them, why don't you ask for tips, advice on how you can improve your posts, or silently follow them, see how they post, their grammar and so on.

Your claim is false I have seen many people give merits to newbies, Jr Members BUT to deserving posts, no merit for cribbing, begging and spam posts.

If you yet feel you're not receiving any merits why don't you check a Bill gator thread he reviewes posts and there're many such ones who even reward you can't remember the name now.

This is the funniest thing i have read this day, let me laugh for a while, hahaha. Why would someone punished for doing nothing or not giving anything? It is hard to earn merits so people will make sure that they give smerits  to the right person. Some even have a high standard for choosing the "right person".

Because that requires intelligent appliction. I've tried a number of things to help, and I'm considering running down the Fit to Talk site due to lack of interest. It seems that if comments don't earn merit, or promote bounty scams, then they don't want to know.

I'm literally out of smerit, for I have given all of them to good posts, but regarding punishment, I think we must introduce a new rule in the forum, where the beggers as you can be banned.

Well I've still got merits to award, but half the people in threads I look at seem to be on ignore. I ignore antbody who quote large images posted earlier for example, as that makes it difficult to scan threads quickly. I'm reluctant to change my policy, as I've got a lot on at the moment, and I don't see the point in repeating the images anyway.

Maybe you just need to spread the word some more - why don't you try a signature campaign to advertise it? :D

Also, I live in fear of being added to your infamous ban list.

Edit: Not on the ignore list. Whew.

Would I dare?

I gave you a merit as well,  because I don't want to be punished ( unless she's hot, and in a leather skirt. ).

Well, it happens to me too. Do you remember my replied to you back there when i was saying i made a group for my local member to learn and talk english in the group. It is not too active anymore, only 2-4 person who talks in there. Maybe you are right, everything about this forum if that is not giving they money, it doesnt motivate them.

Money is always good to have. But i would have the same amount of posts without signature campaigns. I dont think too many (in percent) could say the same. Just look at telegram for icos, there are so much spam about bounty payout, airdrop etc. Im there for information about the project. So if it is any comfort bitcointalk is not alone in the suffering :p The same goes for all theese merit topics. Merit restricts how much money you make. I only get half because of it for example. But i dont want merit to be forced out of the holders, the whole point is to increase the quality of our forum. And even if money is nice, that is worth more.

They come to this Forum with Objective Motivation, yeah TOO OBJECTIVE i think.
Just Login, go to Bounty Boards. Find bounty with Big Pool then Join (maybe with their Alts), do the bounty brutally without know the rules.
And, the worst using Translator for Translate Campaign (silly)
They dont care if you scold or warn them, immuned.

why do not you make a contest so that newcomers get merits for certain clamps? now it is very difficult for beginners to receive ranks

I came to the forum when there were merits. it was difficult for me to get a member

I've been pondering what a suitable punishment for OP should be, right now my preferred method would be an English lesson/physical torture combo. So Op is tied to a chair, myself and jetcash are in the room, whilst I slide matches under his fingernails Jet Cash holds a basic English test for OP to read, then Jet asks the questions, spelling, grammar mainly, every question OP gets wrong I get to light a match till it burns down and heats up his fongernails. We all know OP will get 10 wrong, so after that Pharmacist comes in and T-bags OP until he agrees to Ninja style help the forum and cuts all internet connections to the Countries with the shitposting account farms.

Why would they care if newbies or jr.members don't receive smerits because all they do is rant and post shits like you? Merits are made to be given to posts that have quality and to be able to distinguish quality posts you must set your own standards towards it. Every member here have their own standards on giving merit to somebody and you cannot blame them if their standards are high. Even I don't have much smerits to give but I am also careful in giving merit because majority of posts that I am seeing are not sufficient for me to give merit more likely they are just spam posts.

The OP is a 29 year old female. Can we review that punishment list?

Am I allowed to post comments like that in Meta? :)

Well, you are tending to be a bit off-topic, and in the off topic section, you should mark your punishment topic with the [NSFW] just to be on the safe side :)
But to be a bit on topic as well:
I've started to comment on this forum to improve my English (and to learn about the blockchain system), and this helped a lot (I know I can still improve on both sides). I was not forced by anyone, but myself that time.
Now the merit system forces something similar for all of the users, to be able to rank up, they need to post valuable thoughts and to use proper English.

Something different:
I've got an interesting idea:
Is it possible that somebody (or a group), e.g. account farmers, are now trying to punish the forum, registering a lot of newbie accounts daily and spamming the hell out of the topics, in order to make it extra hard for the normal people to find something useful? Or this is only conspiracy?

I think it's just simple greed. You can run several bounty hunter accounts for the sig revenue, and you can talk about it on Steemit, YouTube and other sites that reward posters, and then you can get even more money.

Man, everything is possible, just do a kind of research, try to be useful for other forum members, even a Newbie could spread a wisdom. Stop complaining and just enjoy the atmosphere.

They even talk about it openly right here and I guess get paid for those posts as well.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3372313.0;topicseen  (thanks to The Pharmacist for pointing it out).

They really are a helpful lot though!!!  Nice to see them helping their fellow shitcunts.

Yes sharing a good information is the one that eligible to recieve a merit reward. And also dont use shit post to persuade some user or a source to give you a merit i want to recieve a merit to get into a higher rank. But i need to be helpful to others to give me rewarded.

Fella being helpful isnt all it takes, a better understanding of the English language is needed in your case.

hate to say it but you are pissing into a force 8 hurricane wind if you think you have a chance of getting merits typing the way you do. Actually, you do have 2 hopes, Bob and no...

Merits system are developed here for a purpose so that people can share beneficial information in this forum and remove all scammers. Merits system forcing people to share good information here while all those who are just doing earning by using this forum will get no chance to work like now Rank will be promoted by getting specifics Merits number.
And all those people who have Smerits they all known that these merits will not given any benefits to them but the well known that these merits will give more benefits to forum when they used these Smerits in the right place.

[Update] oct 03 2018, 01:50pm
I'm sorry for the off topic.
I want to update this topic because i found some interesting discussion about jademacoy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1788367),jademaxxiss012 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1986021) and
jademaxsuy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1788599)
I am pretty sure that jademacoy and jademaxsuy is connected to jademaxxiss012.
Based on their usernames and facebook account.
Please check this,

I got this to post history of jademacoy,(banned)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3154510.msg33601861#msg33601861
https://i.imgur.com/U9EOxBN.jpg
Please check the username on facebook profile URL of jademacoy. (https://web.facebook.com/Jademaxiss012) same with the username of the OP.

Also got this, (jademaxxiss012) https://m.facebook.com/Jademaxiss012?ref=bookmarks
And this (jademaxsuy) https://m.facebook.com/stoneheart.sad

I found this information here, bitgoals spreadsheet, facebook campaign.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mHRId-ZxQQXQAjKZtTeqCTMorDFeL2QOp2kk4Lol9OM/edit?usp=drivesdk
Please check #699 and #700 on facebook row.
Do you think this is an coincidence?
Jademaxxiss012 follows jademaxsuy on the spreadsheet no.?

Additional:
Jademaxxiss012 post
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=569489343469483&id=100012252678587&ref=bookmarks
https://i.imgur.com/y90sclC.jpg

Jademaxsuy post
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2192641227678779&id=100007987682261
https://i.imgur.com/Q0PNZj9.jpg

Another one from jademacoy,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4447485.msg45188573#msg45188573
https://i.imgur.com/wSHtelR.jpg
Please check bitgoals spreadsheet facebook row.#617 and look for his wallet address.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mHRId-ZxQQXQAjKZtTeqCTMorDFeL2QOp2kk4Lol9OM/edit?usp=drivesdk
https://i.imgur.com/C9dSzWM.jpg
Jademacoy wallet; 0x7250ef602DCe4d0862571015A770f36fA62Ce0e6

Jademaxxiss012 wallet;  0x60fa0D6040F11DFE1D11eAC2D64f0cc83b79aac5
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc7ace9d2cb84624cd976753391856751fbb1e4c47024cd8dbb4b45bb88b7e45a
https://i.imgur.com/MXDc5X8.jpg


Jademaxsuy wallet;  0x0ecAf2785E1a3D3Ee56Eb8d1BB2A90b696883Af6
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x94588681d3ac9143d96574bbe345b4c7c09f64890e36e6cb5e0604e01c114d0f
https://i.imgur.com/uefWmdn.jpg

The wallet of jademaxxiss012 and jademaxsuy is related to this address (0x7250ef602DCe4d0862571015A770f36fA62Ce0e6) which is own by jademacoy.
This is not a coincidence.

I thought this user's name was familiar.


Someone brought up more connected accounts using the same handle here:


Yesterday manfredmann creates this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042247.msg46431959#msg46431959) thread excitedly boasting in Meta about getting merits, then as soon as I brought up the likelihood of him meriting his alts he quickly moved it to Off Topic and locked it. They were these accounts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1713011 Ondongeric18 January 19, 2018
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1838159 PlusOne88 February 15, 2018,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1786049 Piggymonster February 01, 2018

Today manfredmann just merited nakamura12 and sent one straight back.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1726595 nakamura12 January 21, 2018