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Title: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 03, 2013, 05:24:55 PM
Gridcoin has been upgraded announcing:
Gridcoin-Research
[GRC]


Why mine when you can research?

Advancing science, mathematics, technology, and understanding the world around us.

A secure blockchain developed on the philosophy of benefiting humanity.


Proof-of-Work algorithms have been criticized for wasting energy on meaningless equations in the mining process and for centralizing transaction processing by encouraging a specialized hardware arms race. Gridcoin introduces a Proof-of-Research algorithm that gives computers something productive to do. Instead of racing to solve meaningless equations, Gridcoin miners Researchers work on problems such as finding cures to diseases, mapping genomes, or climate studies, and are compensated for the work they do.  

Gridcoin rewards you for doing real work. Our goal is to divert computing power from wasteful hashing to productive computing, creating a supercomputing cluster that supports all kinds of scientific investigation and technology development. Access to supercomputers has traditionally been restricted to large research universities and corporations. By creating a large network of computing devices, complex computations once out of reach for most researchers are now possible. The Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC), an open computing platform that supports all kinds of hardware and adapts as technology changes, has been providing distributed supercomputing since 2002, but until now the network was limited to those willing to contribute their resources on a volunteer basis. A few cryptocurrencies have attempted to create a compensation mechanism to increase participation in research, such as Ripple, Curecoin, and Research Support Coin, but these have used a centralized model for determining reward distribution and selecting research topics. Gridcoin lets you decide what to research, and pays you for your research.

Gridcoin is built on top of BOINC and is not limited to any one program, algorithm, or type of hardware. BOINC supports Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, and Android. You don't need special hardware to participate and earn rewards for your contributions to research — the computer you use for a few hours every day can contribute to CPU-based scientific projects when you aren't using it, and you won’t waste electricity competing with GPUs or ASICs for rewards. Those with special GPU mining rigs can also participate in projects designed specifically for parallel computations and you don't have to worry about losing your ROI to the next generation of ASICs.  There are currently over 30 different projects available, each with its own hardware needs — some need CPUs, some need GPUs, and some need sensors. The diversity of hardware supported makes it possible to contribute to the network with almost any device, making it more secure and minimizing the centralization of mining power.  

The reward system is designed to pay you in the same way as a pay-per-share mining pool, so you are rewarded fairly based on the work you do — not by how fast you can solve a block. The devices you can use to contribute to scientific research through BOINC include CPU, GPU, Android, R-Pi, and ASICs, with more being added all the time.  

We ask for the community to join us as volunteers, developers, investors, and evangelists seeking to enable a fundamentally different paradigm for the blockchain and the benefits to humanity it can produce.

Real world results

World Community Grid
http://www.youtube.com/embed/eKVtC7rJ438?wmode=opaque
World Community Grid distributes millions of small data-based computer-based experiments to thousands of volunteers' devices. It gathers the results and sends them back to researchers, who interrogate the data for patterns, getting them closer to those world-changing results - faster. Since it began, volunteers have helped scientists to complete thousands of years' work in a few short years. World Community Grid has enabled scientific breakthroughs in cancer treatment and solar energy research. Our research partners have published over 35 articles in peer-reviewed scientific journal based on research conducted on World Community Grid, advancing knowledge in health, poverty and sustainability.

Rosetta@Home
Determining the 3-dimensional shapes of proteins in research that may ultimately lead to finding cures for some major human diseases. By running the Rosetta program on your computer while you don't need it you will help us speed up and extend our research in ways we couldn't possibly attempt without your help. You will also be helping our efforts at designing new proteins to fight diseases such as HIV, Malaria, Cancer, and Alzheimer's.  View disease related work: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_medical_relevance.php

POEM@home
The project intends to study how protein structure determines protein function, predict a protein's structure from its amino acid sequence, investigate how proteins interact with each other and understand how malfunctioning proteins can cause sickness. The resulting knowledge can then be used in the development of medical treatments.

30+ more projects covering areas of Science, Technology, Mathematics, Materials, Space Exploration and much, much more!


Parameters
     Algorithm: Distributed Proof-of-Research, Reward based on Research contribution to BOINC secured via Proof-of-Stake
     Block time: 90 Seconds
     0% pre-mine: Longest distribution schedule for any Proof-of-Stake based coin with an 18 month initial distribution based on Gridcoin Classic
     Initial Supply: 340,569,880 http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Proof-of-Research_Genesis_Block
     Inflation:  Inflation approximately 6.5% per annum after November 2015, 1.5% interest from Proof-of-Stake, target of 18.25 million coins per year from Distributed Proof-of-Research
     For more info see Gridcoin Research Reward Calculation http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Proof-of-Research#Proof-of-Research_Reward_Schedule (http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Proof-of-Research#Proof-of-Research_Reward_Schedule)

Official Website

www.gridcoin.us (http://www.gridcoin.us)



Special Features - In Beta Production
    RSA - Research Savings Account, rewards can accrue for 14 days and will not be lost if your client is down
    Voting - On block chain voting from command line or WalletQT with visualizations and analytics in Wallet
    Neural Network - Decentralized consensus to determine reward amount, no centralized credit checking AKA: DPoR
    Smart Contracts - Basic contract execution and recording on the blockchain
    New User Setup Wizard - Settings for new users made easy in WalletQT
    Network Traffic - Visualization of network traffic in WalletQT
    Azure SQL - SQL Analytics in WalletQT
    Gridcoin Apps - Optional Apps that can interact directly with the Gridcoin WalletQT
    Live Ticker - In WalletQT scrolling ticker showing current market price of GRC, customizable for other market tickers
    Block Chain Rebuilder - Ability to download and bootstrap existing block chain with one command in the wallet making for getting into sync with the network quickly
    WalletQT Upgrader - Ability to upgrade the wallet with a single command (windows only)
    BOINC hash - Cryptographic proof work was completed by an individual that can not be faked
     
Special Features - In Development or Alpha Production
    Research Age - Extending the RSA indefinitely into the past, supporting an unlimited number of researchers
    Ticket System - reporting system for bugs, improvements, customer service requests etc. in QT
    GFS - Gridcoin File System, system for sharing and storing encrypted, signed and virus scanned files
    Distributed Autonomous Organization (DAC/DAO) - Decision making using machine rules and consensus voting for management of the Gridcoin Foundation
   
Downloads/Source
     Github Source: https://github.com/gridcoin/Gridcoin-Research
     Repo Source: https://launchpad.net/gridcoin
     Windows MSI: http://download.gridcoin.us/download/downloadstake/GridcoinResearch.msi

Tutorials:
     ***Note: If you are setting the wallet up to mine research setup BOINC first***
     Windows: http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Mining_setup
     Linux: http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Linux_guide
     OSX: http://wiki.gridcoin.us/OS_X_Guide
 
Faucets:
    http://pool.gridcoin.us/Faucet.aspx
    http://faucet.gridcoin.asia/
    http://grcfaucet.tk/
    #gridcoin on Freenode or https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:6667/#gridcoin - drips to 10 random members every 3 hours
         *nickname must be registered
         *sometimes the channel rains, sometimes it pours, join us for great conversation and free GRC
    #gridcoin-games on Freenode or https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:6667/#gridcoin-games - free games that pay GRC just for playing
   

BOINC Resources:
     BOINC Account Manager (BAM) setup guide: http://boincstats.com/en/bam/
     Network RAC Report & Active Whitelist: http://gridresearchcorp.com/gridcoin/?whitelist
     Project hardware & software compatibility: http://wiki.gridcoin.us/Current_BOINC_Whitelist

Exchanges:
     C-Cex: https://c-cex.com/?p=grc-btc
     Bittrex: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-GRC
     Poloniex: https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_grc

Block Explorers:
     http://gridresearchcorp.com/gridcoin/
     http://explorer.gridcoin.us/
     http://pool.gridcoin.us/BlockExplorer.aspx

Other Resources/Further Information:
     Wiki: http://wiki.gridcoin.us
     Paper Wallet Generator: http://walletgenerator.net/?currency=Gridcoin
     Profitability Calculator: http://pool.gridcoin.us/ProfitabilityCalculator.aspx
     Whitepaper GRC-Classic: http://www.gridcoin.us/images/gridcoin-white-paper.pdf

Forums/social media:
     Official Forum: https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/464-gridcoin-grc/
     BCT Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324118.0
     Twitter: https://twitter.com/GridcoinNetwork
     Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/gridcoin
     Reddit (ru): http://www.reddit.com/r/russiangridcoin
     Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gridcoins
     IRC: #gridcoin on Freenode or https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net:6667/#gridcoin
     Stumble Upon: http://www.stumbleupon.com/stumbler/jasons222222/likes/interest/gridcoin

Charts/Analytics
     Coinmarketcap: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gridcoin/
     CoinGecko: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/gridcoin
     GRC Magnitude: http://grcmagnitude.com
     Blockchain Charts: http://gridresearchcorp.com/gridcoin/?charts&lb=500
     Github contribution: https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/gridcoin-research
     Team Gridcoin BOINC Stats: http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/detail/118094994/overview



======================================================================================================================
Release Notes
======================================================================================================================

Gridcoin is actively in development, release notes and the most up to date version information can be found here:
 https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/31900-anngrc-gridcoin-research-a-secure-blockchain-developed-on-the-philosophy-of-benefiting-humanity


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: RoadTrain on November 03, 2013, 06:20:05 PM
Can you explain how BOINC mining is implemented?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Hazard on November 03, 2013, 06:23:59 PM
Yawn


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 03, 2013, 06:47:17 PM
We also have a new forum, and in an effort to give it a spark of life, I'm giving out some more GRC for its promotion. Sign up for an account at www.gridcoinforum.com and make at least one decent post (more than one sentence). Then, PM me HERE on Cryptocointalk with your GRC address and your account name on the Gridcoin Forum and I'll send you 50 GRC.

Thanks and hope to see some of you there!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Eli0t on November 03, 2013, 06:58:24 PM
Gridcoin officially launched October 16th, 2013

but your posting it in november...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 03, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
Gridcoin officially launched October 16th, 2013

but your posting it in november...

iirc, they launched it on the other altcoin forum because bitcointalk was down at the time.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 03, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
It looks good, as a former FoldIt player, I will give it a try.

Set up tutorial seems little bit complicated  ::)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 03, 2013, 09:41:10 PM
It looks good, as a former FoldIt player, I will give it a try.

Set up tutorial seems little bit complicated  ::)

Isn't as bad as it looks haha. If you install BOINC and start a project (I recommend SETI, Rosetta, or World Community Grid since they're known to work) before running the .msi, it should pretty much be worry free after that.

If you have any questions there probably hasn't been an install issue that hasn't been resolved here: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1331-new-coin-launch-announcement-grc-gridcoin/

or you can ask away


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 03, 2013, 10:40:29 PM
Finally a coin that makes a contribution to science and society, great idea with pairing boinc with this. We need to get this on the exchanges ASAP!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: gorgorom on November 03, 2013, 10:45:13 PM
Reserved


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Kingpalomar on November 04, 2013, 01:23:10 AM
I definitely don't like the wastefulness of bitcoin so this seems like a really great Idea. The logo definitely needs some work though. Something like this: http://i.imgur.com/7lKWpxI.png with a G of course.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 04, 2013, 02:23:13 AM
I definitely don't like the wastefulness of bitcoin so this seems like a really great Idea. The logo definitely needs some work though. Something like this: http://i.imgur.com/7lKWpxI.png with a G of course.
That's a nice logo.  We just switched to the new logo, so I would probably be ticking some people off :D if we switched again.  Aysyr what do you think about that logo?

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 04, 2013, 03:21:03 AM
Well, first it's already a logo for Bitcoin haha. But something similar would be nice. It would work as Gridcoin's "brand" logo, but obviously not as its "coin" logo. Similar to how Worldcoin has both a website logo and a coin logo.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: gorgorom on November 04, 2013, 03:27:22 AM
Cant access site :| I want to downloaddddd


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: meta.p02 on November 04, 2013, 03:39:20 AM
We need mirrors! I want to mine Gridcoin...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: gorgorom on November 04, 2013, 03:48:35 AM
Mirrors plllzzz peopleesss :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 04, 2013, 04:01:31 AM
Looks like the .us site is down for some reason. Use these links, they should work


Windows .MSI
http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/uploads/2/4/3/7/24372956/gridcoin.msi

Windows .ZIP
http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/uploads/2/4/3/7/24372956/gridcoin.zip


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 04, 2013, 04:17:17 AM
By the way guys, I'm doing a giveaway here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324341.0

Please do NOT post your address here, post it in the thread above or you won't receive your coins. Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: gorgorom on November 04, 2013, 04:46:12 AM
Looks like the .us site is down for some reason. Use these links, they should work


Windows .MSI
http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/uploads/2/4/3/7/24372956/gridcoin.msi

Windows .ZIP
http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/uploads/2/4/3/7/24372956/gridcoin.zip


Can someone link the instructions please?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 04, 2013, 04:54:34 AM
Hey gorgorom,

If you already know how to set up a miner, then the only instructions you need to get started are here: http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/setup.html


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: xxzxsq on November 04, 2013, 04:56:13 AM
We need mirrors! I want to mine Gridcoin...
me too :-[


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 04, 2013, 05:00:41 AM
We need mirrors! I want to mine Gridcoin...
me too :-[

Did you try the links I just posted?

Looks like the .us site is down for some reason. Use these links, they should work


Windows .MSI
http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/uploads/2/4/3/7/24372956/gridcoin.msi

Windows .ZIP
http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/uploads/2/4/3/7/24372956/gridcoin.zip


Can someone link the instructions please?




Btw if you're having issues connecting add this node to your .conf file

addnode=98.114.181.178


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 04, 2013, 05:47:12 AM
We need mirrors! I want to mine Gridcoin...
me too :-[


Seed node, DNS, and web site was crashed; rebooted;  only had to do this once in the last 9 days, must have had a surge in traffic, please try again!

Thanks!



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: xxzxsq on November 04, 2013, 07:52:44 AM
Click register mining
module, the boinc.dll not register! ???


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 04, 2013, 12:12:47 PM
Hey xxzxsq,

Did you download the .msi or the .zip? Also, please look at this page and try some of the solutions. Depending on your computer you might need to do an extra step.

http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/troubleshooting.html


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 04, 2013, 01:21:30 PM
We really need to get his coin on the exchanges.

Sign the petition here: https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/35939


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: adoalli on November 04, 2013, 01:26:18 PM
GDg7twb16yJrUC3znZhzY1u2xEwVsWkK2a

thank you


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: meta.p02 on November 04, 2013, 01:38:40 PM
Gridcoin network going strong, passing 10K blocks! (unfortunately, my low power computer can only mine a block a day at this high diff...)

{
"blocks" : 10008,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.71273206,
"errors" : "",
"networkhashps" : 18310818,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 04, 2013, 01:43:11 PM
Gridcoin network going strong, passing 10K blocks! (unfortunately, my low power computer can only mine a block a day at this high diff...)

{
"blocks" : 10008,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.71273206,
"errors" : "",
"networkhashps" : 18310818,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

Yeah, I see the hashes/per-second went up about 100% since yesterday and the difficulty doubled.

Integrated pool mining is coming soon.

We have been testing it, so far so good.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 04, 2013, 02:02:08 PM
I hope a lot of people get behind this coin, this is the first time mining power can be harnessed to better the world. My aunt has breast cancer and I really hope the distributed computing can make breakthroughs in many scientific and medical discoveries. There is a lot of suffering out there and we as miners can help the world. Spread the word people!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: micalith on November 04, 2013, 03:49:04 PM
Any idea when the linux client will be ready? If not soon, is it worth trying it with Wine maybe?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 04, 2013, 05:32:14 PM
I hope a lot of people get behind this coin, this is the first time mining power can be harnessed to better the world. My aunt has breast cancer and I really hope the distributed computing can make breakthroughs in many scientific and medical discoveries. There is a lot of suffering out there and we as miners can help the world. Spread the word people!

Yes definately!  Especially since there are already 45,000 active bitcoin power hogs consuming 23,000megawatts PER DAY, just moving them over to GRC would help immensely.
Sorry to hear about your Aunt.  One very interesting read is the life of Royal R Rife.  Google him and read what he says about cancer, it is very interesting from a technical point of view.  You might have to click on Rense or Rex Research.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 04, 2013, 05:40:13 PM
Any idea when the linux client will be ready? If not soon, is it worth trying it with Wine maybe?
We have a guy in Russia working on the Linux client now.  He was able to get it to compile, but I think it is a ways off because it still doesn't support Boinc.  We might have a version that is not capable of mining, if that is of interest to anyone.  I doubt wine will be able to execute the windows API calls.  You can try running a windows virtual machine inside a linux box.

Best Regards,
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 04, 2013, 08:32:36 PM
Looks like things are moving quickly for the GridCoin  :)

Any idea when the linux client will be ready? If not soon, is it worth trying it with Wine maybe?
We have a guy in Russia working on the Linux client now.  He was able to get it to compile, but I think it is a ways off because it still doesn't support Boinc.  We might have a version that is not capable of mining, if that is of interest to anyone.  I doubt wine will be able to execute the windows API calls.  You can try running a windows virtual machine inside a linux box.

Best Regards,
Grid



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: xxzxsq on November 05, 2013, 05:35:33 AM
Why? Total coins: ~168 million (est.) ???


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 05, 2013, 12:58:21 PM
Do you want more than 168 million?

Why? Total coins: ~168 million (est.) ???


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 05, 2013, 01:05:34 PM
Looks like difficulty and hash rate on the network is starting to grow.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: spark_li on November 05, 2013, 01:24:09 PM
GRC POOL

http://pool.800996.com:8505/index.php

Enjoy it ^_^


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Buratino on November 05, 2013, 01:38:25 PM
As mining instruction implies BOINC project heavily utilizes CPU(s) and main memory resources, whereas GridCoin uses GPU(s) for mining. Is it indeed?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 05, 2013, 02:01:59 PM
GRC POOL

http://pool.800996.com:8505/index.php

Enjoy it ^_^
Hi SparkLi,

Thank you for all your effort in setting up a pool.  My first critical question is: If a miner is mining in your pool and finds a block, will 5GRC's be split among all the members of the pool?  Do you realize that if a miner is mining solo and they find a block with boinc running, the reward is between 6-150GRC?

Thanks!

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 05, 2013, 02:11:25 PM
Do you want more than 168 million?

Why? Total coins: ~168 million (est.) ???
Hi Traderman,
There are 210,240 blocks per year for four years, then that is cut in half, 105,120 for 4 years, then that is cut in half to 52560 for 4 years...etc, if you do that for 20 years the remainder becomes very small, that's where the estimate comes from :).

Buratino:

As mining instruction implies BOINC project heavily utilizes CPU(s) and main memory resources, whereas GridCoin uses GPU(s) for mining. Is it indeed?

In this version, the AMD GPU does the mining and you are free to use AMD or Nvidia or CPU for boinc, and its total project utilization drives the subsidy.  In the version coming in the next 10 days, you can boinc projects that use the GPU (we found some that use the AMDs!) to gain more boinc credits, and the boinc credit trend over the lookback period helps drive the "shares" stored in the chain-- dont worry its similar in rewards, but more fair for heavy duty boinc users who want to take advantage of boinc using the GPUs.

Thanks everyone for the support-- we seem to be growing. 

Grid





Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 05, 2013, 02:18:41 PM
GDg7twb16yJrUC3znZhzY1u2xEwVsWkK2a

thank you
Just sent you an extra 100GRC- not sure if Aysyr already did :).


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 05, 2013, 02:34:01 PM
Here is my Gridcoin mining rig. 6x5870.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfJj4UZcU8


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 05, 2013, 04:55:55 PM
does the pool work with boinc?

GRC POOL

http://pool.800996.com:8505/index.php

Enjoy it ^_^


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 05, 2013, 05:01:33 PM
Unfortunately no. If you were to mine on the pool each block would only be rewarded 5 GRC. There's no way for an external pool to check the authenticity of BOINC utilization which is why Grid warranted to make a pool that ran on the client itself. Hopefully it'll be finished up soon!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 05, 2013, 06:03:38 PM
So total coins should be 168mil. right?

How about generation rate? How about difficulty changes?
When do you expect last coin to be mined?
Just didnt found this basic info...


Mining DGC GRC! happily from today morning.
Also I recomend to take a look at this crazy game:
http://fold.it/portal/
Its very addictive, especialy when you master hydrogen bonds :)



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: noelmal on November 05, 2013, 08:48:19 PM
GDg7twb16yJrUC3znZhzY1u2xEwVsWkK2a

thank you
Just sent you an extra 100GRC- not sure if Aysyr already did :).


cool  :)

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Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 05, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
? ;)

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Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 05, 2013, 11:05:55 PM
Googled Gridcoin today and saw quite a few people have already blogged about it, just wanna say nice job and thanks to you guys who did!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 05, 2013, 11:15:27 PM
We are trying to spread the word.

Googled Gridcoin today and saw quite a few people have already blogged about it, just wanna say nice job and thanks to you guys who did!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 05, 2013, 11:27:47 PM
GDg7twb16yJrUC3znZhzY1u2xEwVsWkK2a

thank you
Just sent you an extra 100GRC- not sure if Aysyr already did :).


cool  :)

Fzt8GYCLzumtqPWqFqHeNv5qJLXWszq1ga
Noelman & Conqueror,
Just sent the GRC!

Have a good one.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kelsey on November 06, 2013, 07:54:00 AM
nice concept though mining gets complex
 

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Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 06, 2013, 02:12:31 PM
why complex?

nice concept though mining gets complex
 

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Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 06, 2013, 03:05:29 PM
New version available:
v1030 (MSI v3.1) is available for download on www.gridcoin.us.  The MSI and the ZIP have been updated. 
 
Please update your clients. 
 
Note:  This is not the much anticipated pool mining production version, but it contains the feature that will let you test pool mining.
 
It is also critical that we go through this exercise to upgrade each clients block chain to the new expanded gridcoin version, which stores the boinchash in the chain, the boinc credits over time, and the avg user trend.
 
It is important that these values start to propogate to all gridcoin users so we can move forward with a standard chain across all clients that will let us finish the development of the pool mining credit algorithm and let the block explorer see the boinc utilization, md5, and other security information in case anyone asks why the user received > 5 subsidy.
 
There are 2 major issues you have to overcome to successfully upgrade.  One, please backup your wallet and your gridcoin.conf file (you can make a backup folder in your users\yourname\appdata\roaming\gridcoin folder if you want to dump your entire folder in there.  Then delete the Blocks and the ChainState folder--  the Blocks and ChainState must be wiped out in order for the database to expand.
 
Download the new version to your machine, before running it:
 
The second issue is you must delete your c:\program files (x86)\gridcoin folder contents (as the MSI installer will not kill the old gridcoin-qt.exe file or the dll files by itself, working on a fix for that to see if the installer will listen to upgrade commands eventually), so please erase your program directory and then re-install the new MSI.  Launch it, and verify the client syncs up to the current block.
 
To test that you are running the newest version, you can go into the gridcoin-qt Help | Debug | Console and type listminers.
You should receive a pool mining report (v1.3).  The boinc information will show up under "boinchash".  Going forward, the information will be stored in the chain and propogated to other users automatically.
 
Have a good one.
 
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 06, 2013, 03:16:47 PM
I did the upgrade and it is pretty easy.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 06, 2013, 03:27:31 PM
The Gridcoin reddit page. Vote it up fellas!

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1pwin1/what_do_you_guys_think_about_this_new/


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 06, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
In last 2 days I have 7 accepted shares and 6 rejectet (all time boinc utilization 100)

Is this normal? Or not?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Ghepetto on November 06, 2013, 08:45:01 PM
Finally a coin that does not just waste power and ACTUALLY does something good for science. 

Exchanges should step up and support this coin just on that fact alone.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kandelawa on November 06, 2013, 10:17:53 PM
Now I've done the whole setup prozess.
But when I'm registering a mining modul in the Gridcoin Mining Modul the BOINC prozessing power is always zero.
What should I do?
Furthermore I've added some projects in BOINC and it's running now, but what did it exactly do?
Forgive my poor questions but thats a really new terrain for me.
stefan


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 06, 2013, 10:33:06 PM
Now I've done the whole setup prozess.
But when I'm registering a mining modul in the Gridcoin Mining Modul the BOINC prozessing power is always zero.
What should I do?
Furthermore I've added some projects in BOINC and it's running now, but what did it exactly do?
Forgive my poor questions but thats a really new terrain for me.
stefan

Hey stefan,

First, BOINC allows people to contribute processing power to research projects that require a great deal of compute power to finish. You can choose to do projects that do things such as help with anti-malaria research, mathematical computations, physics research, etc.

Second, in your mining console, what is the number of your Mining Module Registered Version and your Threads? Also, did you install with the .msi or extract the .zip?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 06, 2013, 11:17:41 PM
Ye I was getting quite a bit of stales. When i tried reaper it seems i am getting less.

In last 2 days I have 7 accepted shares and 6 rejectet (all time boinc utilization 100)

Is this normal? Or not?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 06, 2013, 11:18:30 PM
Ye I am trying to spread the word around with the petition on Cryptsy. Hopefully they put it up soon.

Finally a coin that does not just waste power and ACTUALLY does something good for science.  

Exchanges should step up and support this coin just on that fact alone.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 06, 2013, 11:35:38 PM
So total coins should be 168mil. right?

How about generation rate? How about difficulty changes?
When do you expect last coin to be mined?
Just didnt found this basic info...


Mining DGC GRC! happily from today morning.
Also I recomend to take a look at this crazy game:
http://fold.it/portal/
Its very addictive, especialy when you master hydrogen bonds :)


Hey Conqueror,
Generation rate: 1 new block every 2.5 mins
Difficulty changes: Retarget every 30 mins.
Thanks for the link.
Thanks for switching over to GRC!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 07, 2013, 01:16:22 AM
If anyone who downloaded the new client would like to test out Pool mining in production, edit your gridcoin.conf file and place this in it:
poolmining=true
(Restart gridcoin)

We currently have 3 people pool mining over 7 nodes.

You must find a block after switching to pool mode before you start receiving pool payments.  The pool payments continue indefinately as long as you find more blocks within the current difficulty lookback period.

Do a listminers from the console window to see your status in the pool after you mine your first block.

When anyone in the pool finds a block, you will receive compensation immediately.

Happy Mining.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 01:58:20 AM
That would be the client doing cpu mining?

If anyone who downloaded the new client would like to test out Pool mining in production, edit your gridcoin.conf file and place this in it:
poolmining=true
(Restart gridcoin)

We currently have 3 people pool mining over 7 nodes.

You must find a block after switching to pool mode before you start receiving pool payments.  The pool payments continue indefinately as long as you find more blocks within the current difficulty lookback period.

Do a listminers from the console window to see your status in the pool after you mine your first block.

When anyone in the pool finds a block, you will receive compensation immediately.

Happy Mining.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 07, 2013, 02:07:14 AM
No trader, the CPU goes to BOINC. The GPU's do the pool mining


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 02:51:37 AM
so pool mining with boinc subsidy?

No trader, the CPU goes to BOINC. The GPU's do the pool mining


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 07, 2013, 04:43:48 AM
traderman,

Yup, the in-client pool mining rewards the BOINC subside depending on the average BOINC utilization among those who mined the share.


grv,
 
At the moment, only the CPU provides computational power to BOINC. However, the dev's working on ways to reward BOINC work to both AMD and Nvidia cards. Either way, even just CPU computational power is already more than most other altcoins do. Also, the network would still need the work from processors to do the PoW verification and push out blocks, so mining on the blockchain is still a necessity.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kandelawa on November 07, 2013, 05:49:56 AM
Now I've done the whole setup prozess.
But when I'm registering a mining modul in the Gridcoin Mining Modul the BOINC prozessing power is always zero.
What should I do?
Furthermore I've added some projects in BOINC and it's running now, but what did it exactly do?
Forgive my poor questions but thats a really new terrain for me.
stefan

Hey stefan,

First, BOINC allows people to contribute processing power to research projects that require a great deal of compute power to finish. You can choose to do projects that do things such as help with anti-malaria research, mathematical computations, physics research, etc.

Second, in your mining console, what is the number of your Mining Module Registered Version and your Threads? Also, did you install with the .msi or extract the .zip?

Hi,

I installed the .zip.
First when I wanted to register mining console gridcoin was killed so I read the troubleshooting and installed microsoft.net version 4.51.
After that, when registering mining console gridcoin did not close, but nothing happened.
It shows furthermore "Boinc Processing Power: 0"

Is there a difference between the credits I have on the project homepages and my wallet in gridcoin?
Thanks.
stefan


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 07, 2013, 05:59:04 AM
Stefan,

When you go to the Mining Console now, is the Mining Module Registered Version 0? What number is it?  What number are your Threads too? If you tell us those numbers we'll be able to tell you what to do to get the processing power to go up.

Meanwhile, with Gridcoin open, open an administrator command prompt (search cmd in your start menu, then right click and click run as administrator), then type "lodctr /r" without the quotations. Then restart your Gridcoin client. Also, do you have any of the following projects added? Rosetta@home, Seti@home or World Community Grid? If not add one of them as your project.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kandelawa on November 07, 2013, 06:23:54 AM
Stefan,

When you go to the Mining Console now, is the Mining Module Registered Version 0? What number is it?  What number are your Threads too? If you tell us those numbers we'll be able to tell you what to do to get the processing power to go up.

Meanwhile, with Gridcoin open, open an administrator command prompt (search cmd in your start menu, then right click and click run as administrator), then type "lodctr /r" without the quotations. Then restart your Gridcoin client. Also, do you have any of the following projects added? Rosetta@home, Seti@home or World Community Grid? If not add one of them as your project.

boinc processing power: 0
threads: 0
mining modul registered version: 0

I will now add one of the projects.
After opening cmd and writing lodct /r i restarted gridcoin, but same problem.
Unluckyly I have to go to work no.
I'm back in round about 11 hours.
stefan


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: cyruss on November 07, 2013, 07:09:11 AM
Заглушку махом напишат. Не взлетит.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 07, 2013, 02:39:04 PM
Okay cool.  After updating to .net 4.5, you went back to the mining console and tried hitting Register Mining Module, then click refresh a few times right? If not go and try that. If you already did, then with Gridcoin open, try this:

Open an administrator prompt and enter the following.

     • regasm boinc.dll

     • regtlibv12 boinc.tlb

They should both return successful. Then go to the Mining Console and hit refresh a few times. You should see the Registered Mining Module Version go up, as well as the Threads and Processing Power.


If that doesn't work, then delete the folder you extracted the .zip to, and install the .msi, as it does the registering automatically.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 07, 2013, 03:27:47 PM
Okay cool.  After updating to .net 4.5, you went back to the mining console and tried hitting Register Mining Module, then click refresh a few times right? If not go and try that. If you already did, then with Gridcoin open, try this:

Open an administrator prompt and enter the following.

     • regasm boinc.dll

     • regtlibv12 boinc.tlb

They should both return successful. Then go to the Mining Console and hit refresh a few times. You should see the Registered Mining Module Version go up, as well as the Threads and Processing Power.


If that doesn't work, then delete the folder you extracted the .zip to, and install the .msi, as it does the registering automatically.
Yeah one point Id like to make, when you install from the zip and do the manual registration of the files, if your mining console Registered Version is "0", the client is NOT going to work.  You have to get that number above zero.  When you click "Register" from the client, it will technically do the commands Aysyr listed but that only works if you are running the program as admin and you have Unblocked the downloaded files (to mark them as safe).  Next, if you do the manual registration from the command prompt you have to run these commands from the gridcoin-qt.exe's location (ie CD to the gridcoin folder first).  If all this fails install the program using the MSI as Aysyr pointed out and it will auto-register.

Good luck.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 03:32:34 PM
Why don't we try to get Gridcoin on BTC-E?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 07, 2013, 04:01:50 PM
It'll happen of its own accord :) It'll probably get added onto Cryptsy first


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
I guess we are going to have to be patient.

It'll happen of its own accord :) It'll probably get added onto Cryptsy first


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: RJ2013 on November 07, 2013, 06:23:13 PM
WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 07, 2013, 06:40:16 PM
Ye I was getting quite a bit of stales. When i tried reaper it seems i am getting less.

In last 2 days I have 7 accepted shares and 6 rejectet (all time boinc utilization 100)

Is this normal? Or not?

Ok today I lost 3x150GRC as those were not verified by network  >:(
I upgraded my wallet and mining with reaper now...I hope it will go better  ;)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 07:02:53 PM
I switched to reaper and I am getting better results, i have not had the "verified by network" error yet.

Ye I was getting quite a bit of stales. When i tried reaper it seems i am getting less.

In last 2 days I have 7 accepted shares and 6 rejectet (all time boinc utilization 100)

Is this normal? Or not?

Ok today I lost 3x150GRC as those were not verified by network  >:(
I upgraded my wallet and mining with reaper now...I hope it will go better  ;)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 07:04:08 PM
what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: RJ2013 on November 07, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kandelawa on November 07, 2013, 08:06:27 PM
what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: RJ2013 on November 07, 2013, 08:18:04 PM
what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?

just give me your offers and if we have a deal im willing to send first 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 08:19:45 PM
i got 0.26 exc on coinex, but if i send the fee is 0.1 so you will only get 0.16

what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?

just give me your offers and if we have a deal im willing to send first 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: RJ2013 on November 07, 2013, 08:28:57 PM
i got 0.26 exc on coinex, but if i send the fee is 0.1 so you will only get 0.16

what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?

just give me your offers and if we have a deal im willing to send first 

you mean you want to buy 1000 GRC = .16 EXC ?  is it correct offer?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kandelawa on November 07, 2013, 08:36:19 PM
Okay cool.  After updating to .net 4.5, you went back to the mining console and tried hitting Register Mining Module, then click refresh a few times right? If not go and try that. If you already did, then with Gridcoin open, try this:

Open an administrator prompt and enter the following.

     • regasm boinc.dll

     • regtlibv12 boinc.tlb

They should both return successful. Then go to the Mining Console and hit refresh a few times. You should see the Registered Mining Module Version go up, as well as the Threads and Processing Power.


If that doesn't work, then delete the folder you extracted the .zip to, and install the .msi, as it does the registering automatically.
Yeah one point Id like to make, when you install from the zip and do the manual registration of the files, if your mining console Registered Version is "0", the client is NOT going to work.  You have to get that number above zero.  When you click "Register" from the client, it will technically do the commands Aysyr listed but that only works if you are running the program as admin and you have Unblocked the downloaded files (to mark them as safe).  Next, if you do the manual registration from the command prompt you have to run these commands from the gridcoin-qt.exe's location (ie CD to the gridcoin folder first).  If all this fails install the program using the MSI as Aysyr pointed out and it will auto-register.

Good luck.


After installing the .msi all went right.
Should have known this first :).
Thanks for the help!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 08:38:52 PM
That is my bid.  :)

i got 0.26 exc on coinex, but if i send the fee is 0.1 so you will only get 0.16

what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?

just give me your offers and if we have a deal im willing to send first 

you mean you want to buy 1000 GRC = .16 EXC ?  is it correct offer?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: RJ2013 on November 07, 2013, 08:47:53 PM
That is my bid.  :)

i got 0.26 exc on coinex, but if i send the fee is 0.1 so you will only get 0.16

what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?

just give me your offers and if we have a deal im willing to send first 

you mean you want to buy 1000 GRC = .16 EXC ?  is it correct offer?

thanks anyway...just in case u have some GRC im willing to buy them 100x of your offer


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kandelawa on November 07, 2013, 08:52:59 PM
Please help me understand.. what are EXC?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 08:54:06 PM
Extremecoin

Please help me understand.. what are EXC?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 07, 2013, 09:01:09 PM
Awesome, glad to hear it's working now stefan!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kandelawa on November 07, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
That is my bid.  :)

i got 0.26 exc on coinex, but if i send the fee is 0.1 so you will only get 0.16

what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?

just give me your offers and if we have a deal im willing to send first 

you mean you want to buy 1000 GRC = .16 EXC ?  is it correct offer?

thanks anyway...just in case u have some GRC im willing to buy them 100x of your offer

If I'm right that means round about 50€uro?

Quote
Awesome, glad to hear it's working now stefan!
Yes, but I assume that my PCpower isn't enough to create a new block D:


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 09:10:15 PM
How did you get the 50 Euro calculation?

That is my bid.  :)

i got 0.26 exc on coinex, but if i send the fee is 0.1 so you will only get 0.16

what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?

just give me your offers and if we have a deal im willing to send first 

you mean you want to buy 1000 GRC = .16 EXC ?  is it correct offer?

thanks anyway...just in case u have some GRC im willing to buy them 100x of your offer

If I'm right that means round about 50€uro?

Quote
Awesome, glad to hear it's working now stefan!
Yes, but I assume that my PCpower isn't enough to create a new block D:


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: RJ2013 on November 07, 2013, 09:16:26 PM
to make it clear traderman is offering 1000 GRC= 0.00000272 BTC and asking him if he have GRC im willing to buy them 100 times of his offer


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: kandelawa on November 07, 2013, 09:40:12 PM
So that means 6€cent?
Then I'll give you 10cent ^^.
But only tomorow.
good night.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: just_me on November 07, 2013, 10:01:58 PM


Darn it, I have been researching to do mining, and my pc is not very
good at mining it turns out. I intend to get better gpu but for now,
not much mining going on.

I am missing out


I like the way gridcoin is sounding to begin, and I would like
some free gridcoins, please.

Give me lots to make me happier. :)



G8rNJeKrxMVhu2QWMtm5ZiTKvnZ6MNjpsg



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 10:51:32 PM
Why not start pool mining. The new client has pool mining option.



Darn it, I have been researching to do mining, and my pc is not very
good at mining it turns out. I intend to get better gpu but for now,
not much mining going on.

I am missing out


I like the way gridcoin is sounding to begin, and I would like
some free gridcoins, please.

Give me lots to make me happier. :)



G8rNJeKrxMVhu2QWMtm5ZiTKvnZ6MNjpsg




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 10:53:24 PM
I just sent you 5 GRC. Enjoy!



Darn it, I have been researching to do mining, and my pc is not very
good at mining it turns out. I intend to get better gpu but for now,
not much mining going on.

I am missing out


I like the way gridcoin is sounding to begin, and I would like
some free gridcoins, please.

Give me lots to make me happier. :)



G8rNJeKrxMVhu2QWMtm5ZiTKvnZ6MNjpsg




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 07, 2013, 10:55:07 PM
I might get 2 XPM tomorrow. Are you interested in that?

That is my bid.  :)

i got 0.26 exc on coinex, but if i send the fee is 0.1 so you will only get 0.16

what coins are you accepting?

WTS 1000 GRC

post your offers thanks

What ever coin available in cryptsy...


What about sepa and escrow?

just give me your offers and if we have a deal im willing to send first 

you mean you want to buy 1000 GRC = .16 EXC ?  is it correct offer?

thanks anyway...just in case u have some GRC im willing to buy them 100x of your offer


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 08, 2013, 12:09:15 AM
I just sent you 5 GRC. Enjoy!



Darn it, I have been researching to do mining, and my pc is not very
good at mining it turns out. I intend to get better gpu but for now,
not much mining going on.

I am missing out


I like the way gridcoin is sounding to begin, and I would like
some free gridcoins, please.

Give me lots to make me happier. :)



G8rNJeKrxMVhu2QWMtm5ZiTKvnZ6MNjpsg



Sent.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Spayse on November 08, 2013, 12:23:16 AM
i love this idea i am searching for a different version of bionic because the link wont install right

 ::) ::)

until a pool comes out i doubt ill get a coin


all day no blocks show the love

G6suZsWkhV2zByZPcXgiEWrAtCjdY3t79j

all donations keep me mining


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 08, 2013, 12:24:04 AM
Glad to hear that :) And what happens when you try to install the linked version?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Spayse on November 08, 2013, 12:50:05 AM
Glad to hear that :) And what happens when you try to install the linked version?

its someting to do the way the windows 8 users account sare  as it is in x64

downloading the proper version cleared that right up

luckily i will give it to you

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_7.2.28_windows_x86_64.exe

although it installed without a hitch  it still will not sync  to the miner  :'(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: spark_li on November 08, 2013, 01:17:21 AM
GRC POOL

http://pool.800996.com:8505/


i love this idea i am searching for a different version of bionic because the link wont install right

 ::) ::)

until a pool comes out i doubt ill get a coin


all day no blocks show the love

G6suZsWkhV2zByZPcXgiEWrAtCjdY3t79j

all donations keep me mining


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 08, 2013, 01:37:04 AM
The pool is great, but I am not sure anyone will mine without the Boinc subsidy.

GRC POOL

http://pool.800996.com:8505/


i love this idea i am searching for a different version of bionic because the link wont install right

 ::) ::)

until a pool comes out i doubt ill get a coin


all day no blocks show the love

G6suZsWkhV2zByZPcXgiEWrAtCjdY3t79j

all donations keep me mining


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 08, 2013, 02:06:23 AM
Glad to hear that :) And what happens when you try to install the linked version?

its someting to do the way the windows 8 users account sare  as it is in x64

downloading the proper version cleared that right up

luckily i will give it to you

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_7.2.28_windows_x86_64.exe

although it installed without a hitch  it still will not sync  to the miner  :'(

What numbers are returning in the Mining Console? Anyways, try suggestions here that apply to you

http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/troubleshooting.html

And if those don't work, if you used the .zip, try deleting the folder you extracted the ZIP and try downloading and installing the MSI instead since it should update your module automatically


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Spayse on November 08, 2013, 03:06:44 AM
all zeros
 >:( >:(
trying the msi


wont connect


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: endoc on November 08, 2013, 03:40:57 AM
all zeros
 >:( >:(

I'm getting all zeros too...  Do we have to have boinc in the same directory as gridcoin?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 08, 2013, 04:06:06 AM
all zeros
 >:( >:(

I'm getting all zeros too...  Do we have to have boinc in the same directory as gridcoin?
Hi guys,
No, you dont have to have boinc in the same dir, it just has to be running active projects.

If all zeroes show in the mining console, specifically the "registered version", it is not installed correctly.  Try the lodctr /r command first, and if that doesn't work, try installing the MSI version.  If that doesnt work, try all the things suggested in the technical thread in this forum:
https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/464-gridcoin-grc/

Good luck.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 08, 2013, 04:27:38 PM
I switched to reaper and I am getting better results, i have not had the "verified by network" error yet.

Ye I was getting quite a bit of stales. When i tried reaper it seems i am getting less.

In last 2 days I have 7 accepted shares and 6 rejectet (all time boinc utilization 100)

Is this normal? Or not?

Ok today I lost 3x150GRC as those were not verified by network  >:(
I upgraded my wallet and mining with reaper now...I hope it will go better  ;)

So far reaper is performing well, I hope my HD7790 will be able to solo-mine few more days :)
Overall it is going good, almost 2k mined  ;)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 08, 2013, 05:04:08 PM
Yes I started running reaper a few days ago and it is much better, a lot less stales.

I switched to reaper and I am getting better results, i have not had the "verified by network" error yet.

Ye I was getting quite a bit of stales. When i tried reaper it seems i am getting less.

In last 2 days I have 7 accepted shares and 6 rejectet (all time boinc utilization 100)

Is this normal? Or not?

Ok today I lost 3x150GRC as those were not verified by network  >:(
I upgraded my wallet and mining with reaper now...I hope it will go better  ;)

So far reaper is performing well, I hope my HD7790 will be able to solo-mine few more days :)
Overall it is going good, almost 2k mined  ;)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 08, 2013, 07:42:30 PM
I miss 2 things:

a, block explorer
b, online network statistics

Any plans about those^^?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 08, 2013, 07:56:27 PM
Statistics are on its way I think. Last I talked to him he was trying to integrate guiminer to the client and make some edits to it and he told me he's going to see if he can input some charts in there as well. So we'll see how it comes out in a couple of days :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 08, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
Statistics are on its way I think. Last I talked to him he was trying to integrate guiminer to the client and make some edits to it and he told me he's going to see if he can input some charts in there as well. So we'll see how it comes out in a couple of days :)

Can't wait!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 08, 2013, 08:25:02 PM
That sounds pretty cool. Can't wait.

Statistics are on its way I think. Last I talked to him he was trying to integrate guiminer to the client and make some edits to it and he told me he's going to see if he can input some charts in there as well. So we'll see how it comes out in a couple of days :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 08, 2013, 08:25:53 PM
I think you can see some of the stats from the client if you type "getmininginfo" from debug window.

I miss 2 things:

a, block explorer
b, online network statistics

Any plans about those^^?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 09, 2013, 05:15:37 PM
Did anybody tryied to get Gridcoin link directly here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

i.e. in news, but better permanently on main page  ;)

??

This should be marketing priority...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 09, 2013, 05:19:38 PM
Ye it would be great, but the University has to approve it I am sure it is not as easy.

Did anybody tryied to get Gridcoin link directly here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

i.e. in news, but better permanently on main page  ;)

??

This should be marketing priority...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 09, 2013, 05:23:47 PM
At least we can rock the forum first  ;) :

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8674&postid=51233#51233

btw I am mirrax from FTC crew...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 09, 2013, 05:37:20 PM
We do hope to have it there someday haha. But first we have to get the client and everything cleaned up and find a way to reward miners who are contributing exclusively to BOINC and not the network. THEN can we try to get it there since no matter how big/small the rig is they can get rewarded, but that's still in the works.

Mean time, I put together a forum yesterday if you guys want to check it out! There's no members there yet unfortunately and the boards are still empty, but it's ours :)

www.gridcoinforum.com


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 09, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
Nice, I just registered.

We do hope to have it there someday haha. But first we have to get the client and everything cleaned up and find a way to reward miners who are contributing exclusively to BOINC and not the network. THEN can we try to get it there since no matter how big/small the rig is they can get rewarded, but that's still in the works.

Mean time, I put together a forum yesterday if you guys want to check it out! There's no members there yet unfortunately and the boards are still empty, but it's ours :)

www.gridcoinforum.com


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 09, 2013, 06:03:47 PM
Me too  ;)

It feels like GRC is still good coin to solo mine with 1 cheap GPU  8)
Today I have 6x150 with one HD7790 solo mining...

Jump on board fast!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 09, 2013, 06:09:31 PM
Ye the difficulty is still so low that you can get some decent coins right now.

Me too  ;)

It feels like GRC is still good coin to solo mine with 1 cheap GPU  8)
Today I have 6x150 with one HD7790 solo mining...

Jump on board fast!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 10, 2013, 08:53:15 AM
I am giving away 250GRC, 10GRC/person.


Take a bite:
http://gridcoinforum.com/index.php/topic,8.0.html


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 10, 2013, 08:48:03 PM
Coming Soon:

http://www.gridcoin.us/images/gmm1.png



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 10, 2013, 08:57:04 PM
WOW Very nice, looks really great.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 10, 2013, 09:37:22 PM
^^^^^^^^
 :o wow!  :o


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 10, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
Hope you're having a good weekend Grid :) Be sure to post once or twice every few days in our new forums :)

Once Gridcoin is accepted in exchanges I'm going to sell some and switch hosts because it seems like every couple of ours it goes down for a few minutes for whatever reasons lol.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 11, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
All,

We are all contributing to good causes by donating our computing power to boinc, and what a fun way to do it by adding those functions into a coin and doing both at the same time?

If Bitcoin is worth $390 a coin, we have a lot of latitude here to move all of the LTC power consuming machines over to gridcoin.

I just want to say thank you all for your support and I am committed 100% to staying behind the development on this project and together we will make this a success!

Please note that the forums listed at the top of this thread are still the official places to find new information related to this coin and I don't want to confuse anyone.

We do not have a pool web site partner, because you cannot pool mine gridcoin through a pool, but we do have the integrated in-client pool mining system.

If/when we create a dedicated gridcoin forum you will be notified of the official release HERE on this forum or on our other partner forum listed under FORUMS in the coin release information.  As for now we are in our growth stage, and would like people to spread the word as far as using this coin while running boinc- to send GRC to other countries (competing with Western Union) and bringing new miners over to GRC.

We are also expirimenting with new algorithms that may allow a distribution of compensation among Boinc-cpu only users, boinc+gpu miners, and boinc+boinc gpu+gpu miners, more on that later.

Take care.
Grid








Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 11, 2013, 03:52:28 PM
The in-client pool mining is pretty cool. Definitely some new innovation there and a great way for Gridcoin to distinguish itself from all the others. Great work Grid!!

All,

We are all contributing to good causes by donating our computing power to boinc, and what a fun way to do it by adding those functions into a coin and doing both at the same time?

If Bitcoin is worth $390 a coin, we have a lot of latitude here to move all of the LTC power consuming machines over to gridcoin.

I just want to say thank you all for your support and I am committed 100% to staying behind the development on this project and together we will make this a success!

Please note that the forums listed at the top of this thread are still the official places to find new information related to this coin and I don't want to confuse anyone.

We do not have a pool web site partner, because you cannot pool mine gridcoin through a pool, but we do have the integrated in-client pool mining system.

If/when we create a dedicated gridcoin forum you will be notified of the official release HERE on this forum or on our other partner forum listed under FORUMS in the coin release information.  As for now we are in our growth stage, and would like people to spread the word as far as using this coin while running boinc- to send GRC to other countries (competing with Western Union) and bringing new miners over to GRC.

We are also expirimenting with new algorithms that may allow a distribution of compensation among Boinc-cpu only users, boinc+gpu miners, and boinc+boinc gpu+gpu miners, more on that later.

Take care.
Grid









Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: C. Bergmann on November 11, 2013, 07:17:13 PM
When you bring your coins on the market, I will buy some :)

I like your idea. Great, I always wished someone will bring the power of the bitcoin netwoirk to a usefull purpose. I hope you succeed!

Your project could make a lot of scientist to fall in love with cryptocurrencies.

As someone with no background in IT, I have a question, which may seem stupid: Why is it not possible to spend the whole mining-power in Boinc or some other scientific operation (brain-mapping, lattice gauge, clima) or some engineering-operations (simulation ...)?

Do you have scientist from berkely on board?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 11, 2013, 07:52:15 PM
Because if you dedicate all power to scientific project people will not participate as much. I hate to say it, but the only way for mass amount of people to want to run Boinc is to provide immediate financial incentive. Otherwise people either forget or just loose interest over time.

When you bring your coins on the market, I will buy some :)

I like your idea. Great, I always wished someone will bring the power of the bitcoin netwoirk to a usefull purpose. I hope you succeed!

Your project could make a lot of scientist to fall in love with cryptocurrencies.

As someone with no background in IT, I have a question, which may seem stupid: Why is it not possible to spend the whole mining-power in Boinc or some other scientific operation (brain-mapping, lattice gauge, clima) or some engineering-operations (simulation ...)?

Do you have scientist from berkely on board?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: C. Bergmann on November 11, 2013, 08:12:42 PM
Yea, but why do they have to hash to receive coins? Why can't the do some other gpu-operations like monte-carlo-simulation or anything else to solve a block?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 11, 2013, 08:14:04 PM
This coin deserves more recognition!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 11, 2013, 08:21:12 PM
Yea, but why do they have to hash to receive coins? Why can't the do some other gpu-operations like monte-carlo-simulation or anything else to solve a block?

The reason it isn't wise to do that is because the transactions have no strong source of verification. PoW is still solely the most secure way to make sure transactions are legitimate. That's why we're hoping to eventually get to the point where 50% of power goes to research and 50% of power goes to keeping the chain secure.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 11, 2013, 08:53:06 PM
Ye I agree. If this coin becomes more widely used we can see some serious scientific breakthroughs. I can't even imagine what the results can be.

This coin deserves more recognition!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 11, 2013, 08:54:23 PM
A 50/50 split would be great, I am not sure if it will work out like that, but it would be idea of that is the case long term.

Yea, but why do they have to hash to receive coins? Why can't the do some other gpu-operations like monte-carlo-simulation or anything else to solve a block?

The reason it isn't wise to do that is because the transactions have no strong source of verification. PoW is still solely the most secure way to make sure transactions are legitimate. That's why we're hoping to eventually get to the point where 50% of power goes to research and 50% of power goes to keeping the chain secure.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 12, 2013, 12:39:09 AM
Yes, the Proof Of Work is necessary to keep a perpetrator from quickly constructing a block of falsified transactions, inserting the block in the chain somewhere and trying to spend the mining subsidy or double spend etc.  With PoW every block is related to every prior block so it is too hard computationally to reconstruct N number of blocks starting back more than one prior. 

But one thing that we have discovered that can add potential boinc efficiency to this system is the integrated pool mining with more features.  If we have 100 users running boinc, and 50 miners, if they are all part of the pool it may be theoretically possible to give some compenstation to the 50 who are boincing who are not mining when any miner finds a block (IE payments go to all pool members, membership is disassociated with mining per se).  That would lead to a boinc wattage efficiency that is much higher than mining+boinc.  But before any of that is possible the CPU users would have to go through a different PoW to prove they deserve to be in the pool, etc.  Unless those users are compensated out of a different "pot" per se, IE the miners still receive 150 GRC split N ways, and the Boinc users doing a separate PoW algo are compensated by the pool but not out of the pools funds.  Just throwing ideas out there.

Preston Keys


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 12, 2013, 01:44:01 PM
It seems best just to split the 150 GRC between everyone who contributed to the mining of that particular block. Seems most simple.

Yes, the Proof Of Work is necessary to keep a perpetrator from quickly constructing a block of falsified transactions, inserting the block in the chain somewhere and trying to spend the mining subsidy or double spend etc.  With PoW every block is related to every prior block so it is too hard computationally to reconstruct N number of blocks starting back more than one prior. 

But one thing that we have discovered that can add potential boinc efficiency to this system is the integrated pool mining with more features.  If we have 100 users running boinc, and 50 miners, if they are all part of the pool it may be theoretically possible to give some compenstation to the 50 who are boincing who are not mining when any miner finds a block (IE payments go to all pool members, membership is disassociated with mining per se).  That would lead to a boinc wattage efficiency that is much higher than mining+boinc.  But before any of that is possible the CPU users would have to go through a different PoW to prove they deserve to be in the pool, etc.  Unless those users are compensated out of a different "pot" per se, IE the miners still receive 150 GRC split N ways, and the Boinc users doing a separate PoW algo are compensated by the pool but not out of the pools funds.  Just throwing ideas out there.

Preston Keys



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 12, 2013, 08:53:58 PM
Ok, so problem with blocks unrecognized by network is back...even with reaper.
Why is this happening to me  ???


printscreen here:

http://mirrax.rajce.idnes.cz/GRC_mining_problem#Pic0004.jpg


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 12, 2013, 10:23:35 PM
I have 2 rigs mining for over a week now and I have not had that problem yet. But others have reported this exact same situation.

Ok, so problem with blocks unrecognized by network is back...even with reaper.
Why is this happening to me  ???


printscreen here:

http://mirrax.rajce.idnes.cz/GRC_mining_problem#Pic0004.jpg


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 14, 2013, 05:28:44 AM
This was posted on the other crypto forum by the lead dev, figured people would like to see it :)

Quote
"Except for the boinc part? "  I suggest downloading the newest beta client.  We have imo the most advanced and innovative ideas coming out at the most rapid pace in the whole cryptocurrency market.  We have staff programmers paid by the hour.  We have encrypted pop3 client to client email, integrated pool mining (in the client), integrated cgminer/reaper mining In the client, charts of boinc history on the screen, vacation restart for the miners and the wallet, boinc, energy savings, competition for humanitarian projects, and we have something coming that is going to blow everyones socks off.  The Russian coder is highly capable of locking the memory in linux in a way that prevents a fraudulent copy of boinc to communicate with the linux kernel, for one.  Two, I'm working on security again, based on curecoins statements about the early version of the client.  We may end up pioneering something again that is far, far ahead of the game.  I cant go into all of the security details, but to let everyone know how serious I am about security this new feature will lock the memory contents of the NT kernel and encrypt and sign the boinc credits in the same space as boinc is running, and sign the packets with the gridcoin key.  If anyone tampers with that packet before it is given to the block in the mining subsidy it will be USELESS.  Also, all clients will be able to check the authenticity of that signature without decrypting it.  So, blocks will not be forwarded on unless they are authentic.  Next, if someone tries to tamper with boinc, the kernel mode process will not accept the memory because it is going to be signed with Berkeleys key and I cant talk about that, but we do have access to the key pair inside boinc itself, so this is going to very hard to hack, and by the time anyone even attempts to do it we will have boinc running inside gridcoin and you can kiss that idea goodbye.  Another piece of information, anyone trying to do a man in the middle attack between boinc and gridcoin will fail, because the memory is going to be signed before gridcoin reads it, so anything you do to tamper with that memory will alter the signature.  Once this version is released, and the feature is turned on, your client will only accept signed boinc blocks others will be rejected.  Everyone will be forced to upgrade, because we have a feature in the client to do that.  If you dont upgrade, you cant mine new blocks.  We are going to be the best and there is no stopping us.

This coin is going to be amazing!

@OP if you changed the topic to more to reflect what this coin does, it might get more views.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 14, 2013, 02:41:37 PM
Yea Conqueror PM'ed me and I told him I was having the same issue with the client I had running on my laptop for the giveaway. Turns out it's because of the version. I still had Mining Module Version 4 whereas the newest MSI client was Version 10. Anyways, deleted everything but my wallet and conf, installed the new version and worked fine :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 14, 2013, 03:45:40 PM
Ye I agree, the thread title needs to be changed to reflect the Gridcoin's purpose.

This was posted on the other crypto forum by the lead dev, figured people would like to see it :)

Quote
"Except for the boinc part? "  I suggest downloading the newest beta client.  We have imo the most advanced and innovative ideas coming out at the most rapid pace in the whole cryptocurrency market.  We have staff programmers paid by the hour.  We have encrypted pop3 client to client email, integrated pool mining (in the client), integrated cgminer/reaper mining In the client, charts of boinc history on the screen, vacation restart for the miners and the wallet, boinc, energy savings, competition for humanitarian projects, and we have something coming that is going to blow everyones socks off.  The Russian coder is highly capable of locking the memory in linux in a way that prevents a fraudulent copy of boinc to communicate with the linux kernel, for one.  Two, I'm working on security again, based on curecoins statements about the early version of the client.  We may end up pioneering something again that is far, far ahead of the game.  I cant go into all of the security details, but to let everyone know how serious I am about security this new feature will lock the memory contents of the NT kernel and encrypt and sign the boinc credits in the same space as boinc is running, and sign the packets with the gridcoin key.  If anyone tampers with that packet before it is given to the block in the mining subsidy it will be USELESS.  Also, all clients will be able to check the authenticity of that signature without decrypting it.  So, blocks will not be forwarded on unless they are authentic.  Next, if someone tries to tamper with boinc, the kernel mode process will not accept the memory because it is going to be signed with Berkeleys key and I cant talk about that, but we do have access to the key pair inside boinc itself, so this is going to very hard to hack, and by the time anyone even attempts to do it we will have boinc running inside gridcoin and you can kiss that idea goodbye.  Another piece of information, anyone trying to do a man in the middle attack between boinc and gridcoin will fail, because the memory is going to be signed before gridcoin reads it, so anything you do to tamper with that memory will alter the signature.  Once this version is released, and the feature is turned on, your client will only accept signed boinc blocks others will be rejected.  Everyone will be forced to upgrade, because we have a feature in the client to do that.  If you dont upgrade, you cant mine new blocks.  We are going to be the best and there is no stopping us.

This coin is going to be amazing!

@OP if you changed the topic to more to reflect what this coin does, it might get more views.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 14, 2013, 05:07:54 PM
Yea Conqueror PM'ed me and I told him I was having the same issue with the client I had running on my laptop for the giveaway. Turns out it's because of the version. I still had Mining Module Version 4 whereas the newest MSI client was Version 10. Anyways, deleted everything but my wallet and conf, installed the new version and worked fine :)

Thanks my man, it is working well now  ;)

BTW I really miss your forum, I hope it will be back online soon (I started a giveaway on forum and I want to giveaway all coins  :) )


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 15, 2013, 01:05:38 AM
It was nice wasn't it? Anyways hopefully soon, maybe in another month or two while we only have a handful of users in our community.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 15, 2013, 03:45:18 AM
Ye I agree, the thread title needs to be changed to reflect the Gridcoin's purpose.

This was posted on the other crypto forum by the lead dev, figured people would like to see it :)

Quote
"Except for the boinc part? "  I suggest downloading the newest beta client.  We have imo the most advanced and innovative ideas coming out at the most rapid pace in the whole cryptocurrency market.  We have staff programmers paid by the hour.  We have encrypted pop3 client to client email, integrated pool mining (in the client), integrated cgminer/reaper mining In the client, charts of boinc history on the screen, vacation restart for the miners and the wallet, boinc, energy savings, competition for humanitarian projects, and we have something coming that is going to blow everyones socks off.  The Russian coder is highly capable of locking the memory in linux in a way that prevents a fraudulent copy of boinc to communicate with the linux kernel, for one.  Two, I'm working on security again, based on curecoins statements about the early version of the client.  We may end up pioneering something again that is far, far ahead of the game.  I cant go into all of the security details, but to let everyone know how serious I am about security this new feature will lock the memory contents of the NT kernel and encrypt and sign the boinc credits in the same space as boinc is running, and sign the packets with the gridcoin key.  If anyone tampers with that packet before it is given to the block in the mining subsidy it will be USELESS.  Also, all clients will be able to check the authenticity of that signature without decrypting it.  So, blocks will not be forwarded on unless they are authentic.  Next, if someone tries to tamper with boinc, the kernel mode process will not accept the memory because it is going to be signed with Berkeleys key and I cant talk about that, but we do have access to the key pair inside boinc itself, so this is going to very hard to hack, and by the time anyone even attempts to do it we will have boinc running inside gridcoin and you can kiss that idea goodbye.  Another piece of information, anyone trying to do a man in the middle attack between boinc and gridcoin will fail, because the memory is going to be signed before gridcoin reads it, so anything you do to tamper with that memory will alter the signature.  Once this version is released, and the feature is turned on, your client will only accept signed boinc blocks others will be rejected.  Everyone will be forced to upgrade, because we have a feature in the client to do that.  If you dont upgrade, you cant mine new blocks.  We are going to be the best and there is no stopping us.

This coin is going to be amazing!

@OP if you changed the topic to more to reflect what this coin does, it might get more views.


Thanks for the positive plugs!

Working on the Gridcoin Virtual Machine now for security.  Will keep you all posted. 

Röb Halförd


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on November 15, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
This is a great coin and I look forward to watching it grow. Thanks for your hard work on Gridcoin!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 15, 2013, 07:19:05 PM
Have you signed the petition for Cryptsy yet?

This is a great coin and I look forward to watching it grow. Thanks for your hard work on Gridcoin!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: bibbit on November 16, 2013, 06:45:19 AM
You can currently mine both GRC and XRP at the same time. Ripple Labs is running an XRP giveaway based on contributions to the World Community Grid, a BOINC project.

Details at https://www.ripplelabs-wcgxrp.com

The giveaway exchange rate is 1000 XRP for every 5000 WGC points (714 BOINC points), which at current rates is roughly a $10 USD value each time you cash in your WCG points.

As long as you're already mining GRC and running BOINC, why not pick up some free XRP for no extra effort?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: ChrisJ on November 16, 2013, 12:51:52 PM
Hey,

I like the sound of this project, I love anything that strives towards efficiency. I would love to understand how this works at a high level. I am presuming that the PoW and BOINC work are separate but enforced as part of the protocol?

If this project got more awareness I see a lot of potential.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 16, 2013, 02:05:16 PM
You can currently mine both GRC and XRP at the same time. Ripple Labs is running an XRP giveaway based on contributions to the World Community Grid, a BOINC project.

Details at https://www.ripplelabs-wcgxrp.com

The giveaway exchange rate is 1000 XRP for every 5000 WGC points (714 BOINC points), which at current rates is roughly a $10 USD value each time you cash in your WCG points.

As long as you're already mining GRC and running BOINC, why not pick up some free XRP for no extra effort?

This is awesome, thanks for telling us!  Even more reason to support gridcoin!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 16, 2013, 02:31:42 PM
You can currently mine both GRC and XRP at the same time. Ripple Labs is running an XRP giveaway based on contributions to the World Community Grid, a BOINC project.

Details at https://www.ripplelabs-wcgxrp.com

The giveaway exchange rate is 1000 XRP for every 5000 WGC points (714 BOINC points), which at current rates is roughly a $10 USD value each time you cash in your WCG points.

As long as you're already mining GRC and running BOINC, why not pick up some free XRP for no extra effort?

This is awesome, thanks for telling us!  Even more reason to support gridcoin!

I hate XRP, but now I hate it less...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 16, 2013, 02:41:25 PM
Allright...


So I have another problem. I cant see my wallet.
I mean I launch it, but then it goes minimized and I dont know how to see the window...

Anybody with same experience?
Any hints?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 16, 2013, 02:52:11 PM
Allright...


So I have another problem. I cant see my wallet.
I mean I launch it, but then it goes minimized and I dont know how to see the window...

Anybody with same experience?
Any hints?

Are you on windows?  If so check your system tray, it's probably there.  (near the bottom right corner, on your taskbar)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 16, 2013, 03:46:09 PM
Allright...


So I have another problem. I cant see my wallet.
I mean I launch it, but then it goes minimized and I dont know how to see the window...

Anybody with same experience?
Any hints?

Are you on windows?  If so check your system tray, it's probably there.  (near the bottom right corner, on your taskbar)

Yep it is there, but when i click it...nothing
When I right click it...i can actualy go to some parts of menu, but never see whole wallet again.
I think I will delete it and install again...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 16, 2013, 03:50:24 PM
I did not even know this existed. Thanks for posting that!

You can currently mine both GRC and XRP at the same time. Ripple Labs is running an XRP giveaway based on contributions to the World Community Grid, a BOINC project.

Details at https://www.ripplelabs-wcgxrp.com

The giveaway exchange rate is 1000 XRP for every 5000 WGC points (714 BOINC points), which at current rates is roughly a $10 USD value each time you cash in your WCG points.

As long as you're already mining GRC and running BOINC, why not pick up some free XRP for no extra effort?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 16, 2013, 04:14:43 PM
Allright...


So I have another problem. I cant see my wallet.
I mean I launch it, but then it goes minimized and I dont know how to see the window...

Anybody with same experience?
Any hints?

Are you on windows?  If so check your system tray, it's probably there.  (near the bottom right corner, on your taskbar)

Yep it is there, but when i click it...nothing
When I right click it...i can actualy go to some parts of menu, but never see whole wallet again.
I think I will delete it and install again...

http://www.conetrix.com/Blog/post/Fixing-an-Application-That-Appears-in-Task-Bar-but-Doesnt-Open.aspx
problem solved...WTF!! It was running out of screen!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on November 16, 2013, 11:38:32 PM
Lol had that happen to me lots of time with guiminer. If you're able to maximize it by right clicking on it on the task bar, and then drag it out of max view it should fix it.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: just_me on November 17, 2013, 02:33:48 AM



Out of the kindess of your heart, to help out my lowly self, while not able to mine with my current nvidia card,

Can you give me some Gridcoins, and I will support gridcoin in some small ways. :)

G8rNJeKrxMVhu2QWMtm5ZiTKvnZ6MNjpsg


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 17, 2013, 07:21:57 AM



Out of the kindess of your heart, to help out my lowly self, while not able to mine with my current nvidia card,

Can you give me some Gridcoins, and I will support gridcoin in some small ways. :)

G8rNJeKrxMVhu2QWMtm5ZiTKvnZ6MNjpsg

I am sure we all give you a lot with your trust reputation  ;)
I dont want to know what have you done...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: dupee419 on November 17, 2013, 07:30:35 PM
still doesn't build in linux


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: emdes on November 18, 2013, 01:15:13 PM
ripplelabs-wcgxrp.com -> Redeem -> We've run out of XRP! Please try again later.  ;D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 18, 2013, 08:11:33 PM
ripplelabs-wcgxrp.com -> Redeem -> We've run out of XRP! Please try again later.  ;D

same for me :(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 18, 2013, 09:51:25 PM
Dupee-
We did successfully create a Linux version that builds and mines (tested it yesterday), however it currently does not support our new block format that is coming in the next 3 days, so we are not going to release it.

One thing you can do is run windows in a virtual machine in Linux.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 19, 2013, 01:28:09 AM
New block format?

Dupee-
We did successfully create a Linux version that builds and mines (tested it yesterday), however it currently does not support our new block format that is coming in the next 3 days, so we are not going to release it.

One thing you can do is run windows in a virtual machine in Linux.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 19, 2013, 02:46:17 AM
Dupee-
We did successfully create a Linux version that builds and mines (tested it yesterday), however it currently does not support our new block format that is coming in the next 3 days, so we are not going to release it.

One thing you can do is run windows in a virtual machine in Linux.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Can you at least change the thread title to reflect that this coin has bionic built in?  (pop3 email too!) It would probably help this coin get a lot more recognition. (which it deserves!)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 19, 2013, 03:05:48 AM
Ye I think the thread title should be changed.

Dupee-
We did successfully create a Linux version that builds and mines (tested it yesterday), however it currently does not support our new block format that is coming in the next 3 days, so we are not going to release it.

One thing you can do is run windows in a virtual machine in Linux.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Can you at least change the thread title to reflect that this coin has bionic built in?  (pop3 email too!) It would probably help this coin get a lot more recognition. (which it deserves!)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on November 19, 2013, 04:26:13 AM
Dupee-
We did successfully create a Linux version that builds and mines (tested it yesterday), however it currently does not support our new block format that is coming in the next 3 days, so we are not going to release it.

One thing you can do is run windows in a virtual machine in Linux.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Can you at least change the thread title to reflect that this coin has bionic built in?  (pop3 email too!) It would probably help this coin get a lot more recognition. (which it deserves!)

I think its good that the coin is flying under the radar for the most part at this stage.  It will get huge once pool mining is implemented.  Enjoy the solo mining while it lasts..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 19, 2013, 01:07:21 PM
Yes that could be the case. But I for one hope it gets huge because we need all that power on the Boinc network.

Dupee-
We did successfully create a Linux version that builds and mines (tested it yesterday), however it currently does not support our new block format that is coming in the next 3 days, so we are not going to release it.

One thing you can do is run windows in a virtual machine in Linux.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Can you at least change the thread title to reflect that this coin has bionic built in?  (pop3 email too!) It would probably help this coin get a lot more recognition. (which it deserves!)

I think its good that the coin is flying under the radar for the most part at this stage.  It will get huge once pool mining is implemented.  Enjoy the solo mining while it lasts..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 19, 2013, 01:55:22 PM
Can you at least change the thread title to reflect that this coin has bionic built in?  (pop3 email too!) It would probably help this coin get a lot more recognition. (which it deserves!)

+1

Gridcoin (GRC), first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 19, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
+1 seems like good title.

Can you at least change the thread title to reflect that this coin has bionic built in?  (pop3 email too!) It would probably help this coin get a lot more recognition. (which it deserves!)

+1

Gridcoin (GRC), first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 19, 2013, 03:03:40 PM
@Rumlazy, @Traderman, thread name changed
(Limited by max characters!).
Thank you all for the great ideas.

@Traderman; No surprises, just the Expanded block header to hold
boinc projects, CPUMiner hash,
and the new security information.

The main issue is we will have to have everyone
upgrade relatively soon so the network synchronizes
the new format amongst each other so we keep in place. (Will announce it here and on cryptocointalk ASAP).

We will put out an upgrade to let this change settle
in before enforcing mined blocks that miss this info
(so as not break everyone at the same time)
but shortly after will start enforcing the new security
in the chain for new mined blocks.

Regarding R&D, recently I have been compiling a list of distributed
(official BOINC XML APIs)
that provide avg credit information for non-GPU users
through a special succinct internet interface not designed for web users.
 I have uploaded my GRC wallet
address (as a boinc username), and started a team called "Gridcoin".  In beta,
we are looking into the possibility of
adding a CPU-mining pool for non
gpu-users who want to participate.  We're just testing this
out to see how viable it is. The PoW is done by Berkeley.
The credits are not stored on a single server, they are
stored on 70 official project nodes outside of the coin.
The credit would be checked by a call to an API from
a "different" miner (the miner who solved the GPU block)
to add the Cpu credits to the pool.  The CPU pool would be paid once per day
during their "wallet hour" with an amount of 150grc divided by the cpu miners
going into a separate block and the CPU shares would be their avg daily credits earned.
  As the blocks fill up more would be paid at different
times.  The idea is this might spark a lot of interest for non-gpu users and give us a strong
user base.


Best Regards,
Rob Halford
 




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 19, 2013, 04:00:30 PM
Finally a thread title worthy of this coin :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 19, 2013, 04:12:31 PM
Current XRP/WCG Exchange Rate: 1 XRP per 40 WCG point(s)

Fak!
It was 1:5 yesterday  >:(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on November 19, 2013, 04:23:41 PM
Gridcoin,

You should add to the main page that the reward will halve every 840,000 blocks or about 4 years.  

Also, when a block explorer is created in the future, will it be possible to calculate definitively the outstanding money supply or will we have to continue to estimate (so far 2/3 max block reward)?
It would be interesting to see how close it is running to the estimates, ie the amount of BOINC utilization most miners are using on average..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on November 19, 2013, 04:25:39 PM
Current XRP/WCG Exchange Rate: 1 XRP per 40 WCG point(s)

Fak!
It was 1:5 yesterday  >:(

Yeah they really chopped it down after they ran out yesterday..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 19, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Ye if we can get people with NVidia cards mining too that would be great. Definitely adds to the appeal of the coin.


Quoted from Gridcoin

Quote
In beta,
we are looking into the possibility of
adding a CPU-mining pool for non
gpu-users who want to participate.  We're just testing this
out to see how viable it is. The PoW is done by Berkeley.
The credits are not stored on a single server, they are
stored on 70 official project nodes outside of the coin.
The credit would be checked by a call to an API from
a "different" miner (the miner who solved the GPU block)
to add the Cpu credits to the pool.  The CPU pool would be paid once per day
during their "wallet hour" with an amount of 150grc divided by the cpu miners
going into a separate block and the CPU shares would be their avg daily credits earned.
  As the blocks fill up more would be paid at different
times.  The idea is this might spark a lot of interest for non-gpu users and give us a strong
user base.


I like this idea, as my nvidia graphics card is regarded as useless for mining, and I think I agree
you could get more people mining and more interested this way.
Do you think you will have instructions to help newbies like myself to learn how to get the cpu
mining working?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 19, 2013, 05:36:04 PM
I have posted a Gridcoin page on stumbleupon.

http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/s/8Za2Co?m=C_PF=357452d2bd5aa69625046f8dca5c784d&meta=10825020

Join stumbleupon and vote it up.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: nonny12 on November 20, 2013, 03:50:32 AM

I like this idea, as my nvidia graphics card is regarded as useless for mining, and I think I agree
you could get more people mining and more interested this way.

Check out CUDA miner.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 20, 2013, 03:12:25 PM
Regarding Nvidia mining, I have not done it personally but I am sure you can mine LTC with Cudaminer and you should be able to use guiminer with cudaminer and it should work with gridcoin--even in the beta guiminer window.
If anyone has done it please let us know how you are doing.

BTW, we did find a lot of BOINC projects that use the AMD GPUs.  For a while, I thought they were primarily Nvidia, but that is really not the case, it has to do with the particular projects implementation.
MilkyWay for instance can use the radeon to its full capacity and you will see your GRC mining efforts halve on one card when you turn it on-- this is a big hint for the future capabilities (ie working on increasing your avg credits).


@Alien: You should add to the main page that the reward will halve every 840,000 blocks or about 4 years. 
Will do as soon as I can get back to the finer things in life, LOL, Aysyr is compiling a ToDo list, and Aysyr will you please put this on my list?

->Also, when a block explorer is created in the future, will it be possible to calculate definitively the outstanding money supply or will we have to continue to estimate (so far 2/3 max block reward)?
It would be interesting to see how close it is running to the estimates, ie the amount of BOINC utilization most miners are using on average..

I am all for writing a block explorer ASAP, and I think what you said here is worthwhile to put in.  We can have it add up all of the mining subsidies in the whole chain and put it on the front page.
Right now it is possible to list unspent outputs in your rpc window and dump that into notepad.  If you can dump it in excel you could add it up.  But I do want to put it on a web page so we can just refresh it!

Thanks guys.

Rob H.





Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on November 21, 2013, 05:28:23 AM


I think a good way to get people interested early on, is by giving out freebies in abundance. Is there a thread here at bitcointalk.org where there is free gridcoins being given away?



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324341.0


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 21, 2013, 07:36:11 PM
There was an article on Wall Street Journal about wannabe cryptocoins and Gridcoin and a bunch of other ones were mentioned on that list. Pretty cool I think. LOL

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304607104579210051252568362


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 21, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
There was an article on Wall Street Journal about wannabe cryptocoins and Gridcoin and a bunch of other ones were mentioned on that list. Pretty cool I think. LOL

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304607104579210051252568362

You beat me to the punch,

Thank you Wall Street Journal for your fair and balanced reporting!
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304607104579210051252568362


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 21, 2013, 08:31:57 PM
^^ Lol BBQ

Gridcoin will dominate soon...just keep mining  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: pabloangello on November 21, 2013, 08:46:56 PM
Is CPU mining this coin with BOINC possible and profitable?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 22, 2013, 01:47:44 AM
I think there are some new improvements in the new version of the Gridcoin client that allows cpu pool mining.

Is CPU mining this coin with BOINC possible and profitable?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 23, 2013, 08:27:32 PM
Stop mining everybody!! Difficulty is to high  ;) (I want more...)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ghepetto on November 24, 2013, 02:37:43 AM
There was an article on Wall Street Journal about wannabe cryptocoins and Gridcoin and a bunch of other ones were mentioned on that list. Pretty cool I think. LOL

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304607104579210051252568362

You beat me to the punch,

Thank you Wall Street Journal for your fair and balanced reporting!
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304607104579210051252568362




Congrats!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 24, 2013, 05:42:55 AM
Here is my explainer video I did myself to promote Gridcoin. Do not ask me how long this damn thing took.  :o

Give it many many likes  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tmNmZomeM



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 24, 2013, 06:32:45 AM
Here is my explainer video I did myself to promote Gridcoin. Do not ask me how long this damn thing took.  :o

Give it many many likes  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tmNmZomeM



Nice work!!
Liked, shared, tweeted out...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 24, 2013, 03:43:02 PM
Thanks  ;)

Here is my explainer video I did myself to promote Gridcoin. Do not ask me how long this damn thing took.  :o

Give it many many likes  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tmNmZomeM



Nice work!!
Liked, shared, tweeted out...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on November 25, 2013, 12:48:15 PM
If Gridcoin go to the exchange markt in the near future, how much would you expect the exchange rate to BTC or LTC.

I would guess 0.1 BTC/ 1000 GRC. We can reach that point soon. Comparing to FTC, WDC and some other coins, we have great potential.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: spartacusrex on November 25, 2013, 01:37:37 PM
Hello..

I like the idea of checking for boinc and paying more if they are using it.

My question is - How do you CHECK whether they actually are running the proper Daemon ?

How do you know they are not just running a hacked version that doesn't use any CPU power to get in the way of the mining ?

Can i not just compile a version which does nothing..

I am curious as i was also thinking of some sort of distributed programming language that you could run instead of mining, but could not find a fix to these issues ?

Good Luck with your efforts!  ;D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 25, 2013, 02:57:28 PM
Yes we do have potential. I really hope Gridcoin surpasses all of them, maybe I am dreaming, but you never know.

If Gridcoin go to the exchange markt in the near future, how much would you expect the exchange rate to BTC or LTC.

I would guess 0.1 BTC/ 1000 GRC. We can reach that point soon. Comparing to FTC, WDC and some other coins, we have great potential.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 25, 2013, 02:58:41 PM
some of the recent update I believe have made it impossible to run a hacked version.

Hello..

I like the idea of checking for boinc and paying more if they are using it.

My question is - How do you CHECK whether they actually are running the proper Daemon ?

How do you know they are not just running a hacked version that doesn't use any CPU power to get in the way of the mining ?

Can i not just compile a version which does nothing..

I am curious as i was also thinking of some sort of distributed programming language that you could run instead of mining, but could not find a fix to these issues ?

Good Luck with your efforts!  ;D



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: pabloangello on November 25, 2013, 03:06:37 PM
Is there a topic where can I buy GRC?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: spartacusrex on November 25, 2013, 03:11:21 PM
some of the recent update I believe have made it impossible to run a hacked version.

Hello..

I like the idea of checking for boinc and paying more if they are using it.

My question is - How do you CHECK whether they actually are running the proper Daemon ?

How do you know they are not just running a hacked version that doesn't use any CPU power to get in the way of the mining ?

Can i not just compile a version which does nothing..

I am curious as i was also thinking of some sort of distributed programming language that you could run instead of mining, but could not find a fix to these issues ?

Good Luck with your efforts!  ;D


That's great..

But do you know how ?

It's quite hard to do.. Since I could just compile my own version of Linux that returned whatever information was required to trick GCoin into thinking I was running boinc..

Does boinc have some kind of POW that verifies that you are doing what you say you are doing ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 25, 2013, 04:50:32 PM
Hello All,
 
Version 4.61 is available for download @ www.gridcoin.us as the "beta" version.
 
1. Delete your program files (x86)\gridcoin directory (except for the guiminer folder). (Still working on the auto-upgrade).
2. Reinstall the MSI.
3. If you have a version older than 3.0, delete your blocks & chainstate folder in users\~\gridcoin and resynchronize.
If you do install the new version first, you can test to see if you have the old chain by :
going to the rpc console after syncing, and type "getblock 20000" <enter>.
If you have the newest database, the boinchash will contain over 200 characters plus "SOLO_MINING".  If you see garbage, upgrade
your chain.
4. To be part of the cpu mining test group (not currently live, only for testing), go into "Projects"
and choose a boinc project.  Add that project to your boinc projects list inside boinc.  Go to the project web site.
Create a new user using your default GRC receiving wallet address as a username.  Rename your gridcoin receiving wallet address
as "Default".  Modify your gridcoin.conf file and add the following key "cpumining=true".  You can GPU mine and cpumine at the
same time.  You can also GPU pool mine and CPU mine at the same time.  Once this key is enabled and the wallet is restarted,
once per day the system will send out a project beacon, and this currently costs about .08 GRC per day to participate (due
to transaction costs on the network --- soon we will be able to show the project name in the Transaction History, such as
"Malaria" in place of the .08grc debit).
 
Once this beacon is sent, you are cpu mining as long as boinc is working on that project.  To check your cpu mining credits, go back to "Projects" and press Query.
If you receive a negative number, an error occurred so please type the error into the forum and we will work it out.
Otherwise, if you receive a positive number, the off-chain PoW is working.  Note: You will have to wait until accumulate actual boinc credits for that project before any number appears. (You can check the official web site for that project to see if you have any, or check inside boinc).
 
To see your status in the cpu mining pool, go to the rpc console and type "listcpuminers".
It takes approximately 15 minutes for cpuminers to appear after the beacon is sent, because other GPU miners must verify the
PoW.
 
In the next few weeks you will be able to run a report to see the amount owed to you per day (approximately 150 grc per day per cpu miner
 is allocated in pool2 - until we have our first 576 users).  Note: Your PoW credits will affect the amount of shares you receive, so it will be very
fair for everyone, since high powered users will have higher credit counts per day.  Also, boinc users running with a GPU setup for boinc but not for mining will earn more boinc credits and therefore more shares in pool2.
 
5.  In the Mining Console, the internal CPU miner will hash the boinc utilization + credits + threads into a block, and
will place that block in the next GPU block automatically, that is the reason you will see the progress bar moving back and
forth as miners find new blocks.
 
Good luck everyone,
Rob Halford
 
Addendum : The version is now 1.0.3.5.  To save you a lot of pain, download the MSI to your machine before running it and right click on it, and Unblock the contents before executing. 
Also, if you have guiminer in your gridcoin directory, ensure the Folder is not Read Only after the upgrade (or you will receive guiminer.exe.log errors). 

Someone asked if the upgrade was mandatory:

No not mandatory yet; the issue is I think a lot of people are running the old chain and Id like to see 51% upgrade to the new version before we force it on them.  The other thing is since this version has so many beta features I dont want to release a beta version as prod without testing it.  Once I know this version is generally accepted and is stable (with guiminer in it) we can do a mandatory upgrade otherwise it could be a disaster.  But I agree, we need to do this quickly.
 
As far as cpumining affecting the gpuminers:  For one, this coin will always need the gpu miners (or whatever latest technology exists in the future) to ensure it can live without third party web sites in order for people to have faith to invest in the chain, ie who would put their money in the chain if it didnt have good security?  So, primarily the scrypt blockchain stays and is required for the coin to even exist.  However since this is BOINC based and we want higher boinc efficiency I think adding in 576 boinc users into our mix is a very good thing for everyone, and gives the coin a strong user base.  Having 5-20 cpu miners mining in pool 2 isnt even going to affect the gpu miners one bit, not even like a flea on the back of this coin, since the coin only pays out one block per day per cpu miner; while the gpu miners are mining one block every 2.5 minutes.  So, in effect it does not dilute the coin (since these new users have to do work to have any block payment per day), and adds to our user base and efficiency.  If we ever grow to 576 users, those cpu users become half of the network (thats the cap, and that when the coin is 50% cpu, 50% gpu; it may never happen) but if it did, we would have a strong user base and over 75% boinc efficiency. 
 
Anyway to answer your question as far as today is concerned, there are no changes to the coin, or the solo mining, or the integrated pool mining for gpus.  The only difference is when cpu miners start coming online, when your machine finds a new gpu block, it will check the work of those 5 users "once per day" through the berkeley api system (using one of the seed nodes) and write that info to the chain.  That will allow the info to be block hashed, and then pool2 will be paid percentages of their daily amount until it meets the share level.  Right now, the payout feature isnt enabled, were just trying to see if it works by testing.
 
Thanks,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 25, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
some of the recent update I believe have made it impossible to run a hacked version.

Hello..

I like the idea of checking for boinc and paying more if they are using it.

My question is - How do you CHECK whether they actually are running the proper Daemon ?

How do you know they are not just running a hacked version that doesn't use any CPU power to get in the way of the mining ?

Can i not just compile a version which does nothing..

I am curious as i was also thinking of some sort of distributed programming language that you could run instead of mining, but could not find a fix to these issues ?

Good Luck with your efforts!  ;D


That's great..

But do you know how ?

It's quite hard to do.. Since I could just compile my own version of Linux that returned whatever information was required to trick GCoin into thinking I was running boinc..

Does boinc have some kind of POW that verifies that you are doing what you say you are doing ?


Hey - regarding Gridcoin security and hacking the client:


1) If you want to go through all the pain in creating a hacked version, you have to have a valid boinc md5 hash, a hash of the Gridcoin Virtual machines threadcount guid that constantly changes, a hash of the boinc utilization, a hash of the boinc avg daily credits, and the solution to the cpu miner hash for each new block.  That's stored in the block header.  If you don't have all that, you cant mine a new gpu block that is accepted by the network.
2) The feature we just added this week will start making GPU nodes check the Berkeley api for CPU miners work (credits earned on boinc by GRC wallet address), and that will allow non-payment to pool2 users (Pool2 is NOT live yet, it is only in Test; we will not release an untested feature).
3) As far as a fraudulent client, the new version requires a CPU miner to run in the background of the mining window that takes about 1 minute of processing power per block.  If you go through all that trouble to hack the cpu miner and what I said in step 1, you might as well run boinc as the effort is easier.

Best Regards,

Rob Halford




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 25, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
Great work Rob. Love all the updates, looks like we got a bright future ahead of us.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 26, 2013, 03:57:25 AM
New client released in the beta section of Gridcoin.us. Guiminer removed. Added support for reaper. Copy your reaper sub folders to the app directory and name them Reaper01 through Reaper04.


Best regards,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: basecoin on November 26, 2013, 07:22:45 AM
This coin seems very interesting.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: pabloangello on November 26, 2013, 11:16:52 AM
Will I achieve something from cpu mining with i7 CPU?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 26, 2013, 01:07:38 PM
There is a gridcoin giveaway thread here: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324341.0



can I have some free gridcoins to see the wallet work ?

G5MD4Yr8rjgcr1nrzFn57A4YWPqk7HaAfZ


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: derm on November 26, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
I want to buy GRC for BTC/LTC/XPM.
If you are willing to sell GRC (1k or more),
PM me with your price (and suggest escrow if you prefer).
Sincerly yours,
Max


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: randomman on November 26, 2013, 06:46:46 PM
Having trouble getting my miner to run correctly for grc- not receiving any shares from reaper- is there anyway to troubleshoot this?  Also why was the integrated guiminer removed?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 26, 2013, 07:24:18 PM
Are you solo gpu mining? is boinc running?

Having trouble getting my miner to run correctly for grc- not receiving any shares from reaper- is there anyway to troubleshoot this?  Also why was the integrated guiminer removed?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: randomman on November 26, 2013, 08:55:33 PM
Are you solo gpu mining? is boinc running?

Having trouble getting my miner to run correctly for grc- not receiving any shares from reaper- is there anyway to troubleshoot this?  Also why was the integrated guiminer removed?

I was solo gpu mining, and boinc was running at 75-100.  It is off right now, as i hadnt been getting any shares for close to 40 minutes.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 26, 2013, 09:02:26 PM
40 minutes is not enough. solo mining means that you have to solve the whole block. This is not like mining in pool where you are submitting shares. you have to leave it for several hours or a day at least. How many kh/s ?? how many gpu?

Are you solo gpu mining? is boinc running?

Having trouble getting my miner to run correctly for grc- not receiving any shares from reaper- is there anyway to troubleshoot this?  Also why was the integrated guiminer removed?

I was solo gpu mining, and boinc was running at 75-100.  It is off right now, as i hadnt been getting any shares for close to 40 minutes.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: randomman on November 26, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
40 minutes is not enough. solo mining means that you have to solve the whole block. This is not like mining in pool where you are submitting shares. you have to leave it for several hours or a day at least. How many kh/s ?? how many gpu?

Are you solo gpu mining? is boinc running?

Having trouble getting my miner to run correctly for grc- not receiving any shares from reaper- is there anyway to troubleshoot this?  Also why was the integrated guiminer removed?

I was solo gpu mining, and boinc was running at 75-100.  It is off right now, as i hadnt been getting any shares for close to 40 minutes.

I was taking a look at the console, and it didnt seem like it was making any progress.  How do you tell if your miner is actually running?  my khashes was relatively low, 40ish at max (i have an nvidia that I pointed toward it).


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 27, 2013, 12:00:06 AM
if it is giving you khash it means it is running.
at that speed it will take very long to find a block. maybe you will get 1 per day maybe not.
you need amd gpu or you can try the pool mining with cpu. that might be better option for you.
i think the new client has a cpu pool mining option.

40 minutes is not enough. solo mining means that you have to solve the whole block. This is not like mining in pool where you are submitting shares. you have to leave it for several hours or a day at least. How many kh/s ?? how many gpu?

Are you solo gpu mining? is boinc running?

Having trouble getting my miner to run correctly for grc- not receiving any shares from reaper- is there anyway to troubleshoot this?  Also why was the integrated guiminer removed?

I was solo gpu mining, and boinc was running at 75-100.  It is off right now, as i hadnt been getting any shares for close to 40 minutes.

I was taking a look at the console, and it didnt seem like it was making any progress.  How do you tell if your miner is actually running?  my khashes was relatively low, 40ish at max (i have an nvidia that I pointed toward it).


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: basecoin on November 27, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
Want to buy some gridcoins, please pm me.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 27, 2013, 04:42:31 PM
@Pabloangello,
You can start testing the new cpuminer  feature in our test group if you like.  You can earn 150grc per day cpumining.  You have to buy a GPU to do the scrypt mining.

All,

I will be working on the block explorer tonight.
In its first form it will be a web page that lets you see the block contents by block number, the current difficulty and some other stats another user asked for here on bitcointalk.  Stay tuned.

Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on November 27, 2013, 06:10:43 PM
Anyone want to sell GRC, please PM me with your offer. BTC, LTC, PPC are acceptable.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 27, 2013, 06:59:11 PM
Man, we really need an exchange to pick up Gridcoin asap.

Anyone want to sell GRC, please PM me with your offer. BTC, LTC, PPC are acceptable.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 27, 2013, 07:05:26 PM
I've been bugging cryptsy to add it, bitjohn said he'd look into it.  Need more people to bug them :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on November 27, 2013, 07:08:09 PM


I still think its important to have pool mining figured out before hitting an exchange so when the profit miners flood the scene it doesn't turn it into an orphan/fork fest..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 27, 2013, 07:08:31 PM
Here is the petition thread I started.
Cast your vote!
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324690.0

I've been bugging cryptsy to add it, bitjohn said he'd look into it.  Need more people to bug them :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on November 27, 2013, 08:01:43 PM
What's the main difference between Gridcoin and Curecoin?
Gridcoin uses BOINC while Curecoin uses Folding@home, are there any other differences?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on November 27, 2013, 08:02:12 PM
Man, we really need an exchange to pick up Gridcoin asap.

Anyone want to sell GRC, please PM me with your offer. BTC, LTC, PPC are acceptable.

It would be great. I cannot wait any longer...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: derm on November 27, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
Still looking to buy some GRC, please help here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347908


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 27, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
Boinc has many more projects people can choose from. Curecoin does only folding@home and the structure between the way Gridcoin is implemented and Curecoin, is very different.

What's the main difference between Gridcoin and Curecoin?
Gridcoin uses BOINC while Curecoin uses Folding@home, are there any other differences?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on November 27, 2013, 08:35:56 PM
Boinc has many more projects people can choose from. Curecoin does only folding@home and the structure between the way Gridcoin is implemented and Curecoin, is very different.

What's the main difference between Gridcoin and Curecoin?
Gridcoin uses BOINC while Curecoin uses Folding@home, are there any other differences?
Hm, sorry for all the questions but what are the pros and cons of mining one and not the other?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 27, 2013, 08:46:25 PM
The only way is to give mining Gridcoin a shot and see how it works out. If you have a few descent gpu's you can mine quite a bit of coins because the difficulty is still not too high.

Boinc has many more projects people can choose from. Curecoin does only folding@home and the structure between the way Gridcoin is implemented and Curecoin, is very different.

What's the main difference between Gridcoin and Curecoin?
Gridcoin uses BOINC while Curecoin uses Folding@home, are there any other differences?
Hm, sorry for all the questions but what are the pros and cons of mining one and not the other?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 27, 2013, 08:59:03 PM


I still think its important to have pool mining figured out before hitting an exchange so when the profit miners flood the scene it doesn't turn it into an orphan/fork fest..
Hi Alien,
Im not sure if you read about it, but we have pool mining.  There are 7 users using it now; if you go into the rpc console and type "listminers" you can see the GPU users in pool1.
It works good, I tested it with another user for a couple of weeks, and so far, no changes have been requested.

BTW, the external pool that someone created for fun only pays 5grc because we cant allow non-loopback mining (that would potentially circumvent the boinc checks), but our integrated pool works and its completely free.  Also, you can switch in & out of the pool as much as you want.  Just change the config to "poolmining=true".


Thanks,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Haleph on November 27, 2013, 09:20:19 PM
How can I mine this using qt?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 27, 2013, 09:47:45 PM
How can I mine this using qt?

Linux compiles and mines -  but I dont suggest using it yet; as any day were going to release the block enforcement patch and it will break your qt client.
Id suggest you mine in a windows virtual machine in linux till our programmer adds the latest windows features.  Or you can use the windows version.

Best Regards,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 28, 2013, 12:55:53 AM
Block Explorer available!

http://explorer.gridcoin.us/


It also shows current difficulty and network hashps.

NOTE:  The blocks are synchronizing very slowly, in order to test this enter a block # below 1844.

Enjoy,
Rob Halford



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: btc4ever on November 28, 2013, 01:00:07 AM
Any ETA for the linux client?   

I was able to build gridcoind on linux from latest github source.  I had to fix a few minor build issues and I can load the block chain, however when  I start mining with cgminer after 5-10 minutes getwork() stops returning any data, and I have to restart, so not quite there yet.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: btc4ever on November 28, 2013, 01:07:45 AM
Any donations for a sad face linux miner waiting for the client to work?   

I was hoping to at least mine a block of 5, but no luck so far, and can only mine for a few minutes before getwork stops returning data.  About to give up.

GCTQMSgKGX1ZhzyUFEQkYUuGNKmXntdG1N


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 28, 2013, 01:19:58 AM
Any ETA for the linux client?   

I was able to build gridcoind on linux from latest github source.  I had to fix a few minor build issues and I can load the block chain, however when  I start mining with cgminer after 5-10 minutes getwork() stops returning any data, and I have to restart, so not quite there yet.



Id rather give you a realistic answer than lead you on.  Sergey has done an excellent job porting the code to linux up til this point; youll have to leave a message on the tech support thread on cryptocointalk for an accurate estimate.  He hasnt even seen the newest code that is necessary to build the new feature in linux, and unfortunately my top priority for Thanksgiving is to add the enforcement block.  If I were to guess I think at least 2 weeks to add those security features in.  You are better off figuring out a way to run Windows in a virtual machine on Linux, even if you have to install an old version of windows XP!  Sorry, but Id rather not lead you on.

Have a good one,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 28, 2013, 04:21:49 AM
Looks great. Good stuff.

Block Explorer available!

http://explorer.gridcoin.us/


It also shows current difficulty and network hashps.

NOTE:  The blocks are synchronizing very slowly, in order to test this enter a block # below 1844.

Enjoy,
Rob Halford




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: cGull on November 28, 2013, 12:48:18 PM
Just showing my support.
Really like the use of BOINC here. Going to explore this some more in the next few days.
Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on November 28, 2013, 02:51:21 PM
I'm now officially mining Gridcoins with my miserable 150 Kh/s.
How long will it take approx. to find a block?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 28, 2013, 03:16:39 PM

I just voted for gridcoin to be traded on cryptsy.com at the link below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349420.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349420.0)


Hey, can you reward me, by giving me some gridcoins? ( my pc is no good for mining so I am missing out )


FwY286Z4aqYoB5EZfhovf7HutbY9ERpX2q


Thanks


(get out there and vote gridcoiners )
Hey cool poll, thanks!   I voted.

Sent you some GRC also!


Working on a facelift for the wallet.


Grid





Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 28, 2013, 03:18:38 PM
I'm now officially mining Gridcoins with my miserable 150 Kh/s.
How long will it take approx. to find a block?
Probably 24 hours.  You can also pool mine by setting "poolmining=true" in the config.  Although there is no free money, either 150grc all at once, or 150 more consistently very slowly.

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on November 28, 2013, 03:31:57 PM
I'm now officially mining Gridcoins with my miserable 150 Kh/s.
How long will it take approx. to find a block?
Probably 24 hours.  You can also pool mine by setting "poolmining=true" in the config.  Although there is no free money, either 150grc all at once, or 150 more consistently very slowly.

Grid

Huh, I used this calculator: https://www.litecoinpool.org/calc
I put 0.628482 as difficulty (got it from explorer.gridcoin.us), 150 as hashrate and 0 as power usage.
I got: 4 hours and 59 minutes to find a block.
Am I using that calculator properly? Thanks.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 28, 2013, 03:45:15 PM
Is the pool still in beta or can anyone access it?  If so, how?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 28, 2013, 04:36:06 PM
I just voted too.


I just voted for gridcoin to be traded on cryptsy.com at the link below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349420.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349420.0)


Hey, can you reward me, by giving me some gridcoins? ( my pc is no good for mining so I am missing out )


FwY286Z4aqYoB5EZfhovf7HutbY9ERpX2q


Thanks


(get out there and vote gridcoiners )


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on November 28, 2013, 05:30:23 PM
Hi everyone!

I want to express a very big thank you to the creators of this coin!
It is such a pleasure to see that a good cause is being helped and the power put into mining is actually used and not just "thrown" away.

If you guys will keep up the great work you have done so far I can easily see Gridcoin becoming The new Bitcoin...but you are probably already aware of the breakthrough and revolution you are about to make here! ;)
Not just for cryptocurrencies but for all of the projects that are being helped!
This is really awesome!!! :)

That being said.
I would really like to start supporting GRC as much as possible. However since I do not come from IT(I am an FX trader) and have not mined any cryptos yet, I have no idea what I am doing :)..so I would really appreciate your help.

- Yesterday I downloaded and installed gridcoin-beta.msi & boinc_6.6.38_windows_intelx86.exe from here http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/get-started.html (http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/get-started.html) with default settings and locations.
- Wallet synced well and Gridcoin Mining Module is working fine. After looking to troubleshooting I also upgraded .NET to the latest version to be safe.
- BOINC Manager runs Ok, 3 Projects added & tasks are being solved using CPU and NVIDIA GPU on my laptop.
- Also my Wallet and Mining Module do see the BOINC utilization and everything refreshes Ok.

There are 2 things I would need your help with:

1) Setting up my laptop to CPU mine, while the NVIDIA runs BOINC
2) On monday I am going to buy a dedicated pc just for mining Gridcoin&BOINC..so I would really appreciate suggestions on what setup should it be to best help the network. Also taking into account future developments in GRC. Budget ~$2k. I personally dont know how to complete the machine from individual parts, however I do have people that can do it for me..so buying individual parts is an option for me if it would be best suited to get most power for the budget.
@GRIDCOIN - Would you be able to help with this?

Please bear in mind that I am not an IT person so my questions might seem off and I need step by step instructions. :)

Thanks everyone for your help!
GO Gridcoin!!! ;)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 28, 2013, 05:53:20 PM
Andrew, great to have you on board.  I'll help as much as I can but I have a Thanksgiving commitment coming up, so one thing you can do in the mean time is read the cryptocointalk thread for some more info and ask Aysyr for some help.  Of course if anyone can jump in, please help.

We are releasing a new version in the -beta section of the web site with a new sleeker look.  Check it out everyone.  Also, there is a relatively major hiccup fixed in that version that has to do with performance and one other background issue (having to do with what the client does when you mine a solo block) that can potentially help the long term reliability (it had a memory leak that we fixed), so please check out the new version.  One other major issue, I moved our code base back from reaper to guiminer, since many users want to use nvidia and cgminer.  So-- please move your guiminer folder to the c:\users\~appdata\roaming\gridcoin folder.  Rename it "guiminer".  This way, when we upgrade that folder will not be erased or marked read only.

Ill comment on the pool mining asap.

Good luck everyone,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aleistermarley on November 28, 2013, 06:19:51 PM
Hi @all

Thanks for bringing up this cool, energy saving coin *clapclap*

Problem although is, im mining gridcoins since 20hrs with approx. 200khashes with the latest client and cgminer 3.5.0 pointing to 127.0.0.1.
But either i have no luck or something is wrong - it does not find a block - still 0.00 GRC in the wallet.... :-[

I have tried both, pool and single mining. Boinc Processing Power shows 100.

anyone has an idea what could possibly be wrong  ???




Greetings from Austria!
a.


PS: just donated a BTC beer to gridcoin ;)
Spare GRC going here: Fww4Y7WdTs9ZSkDPj6P33w4MGbqkjHSWZT   



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: telemaco on November 28, 2013, 06:28:50 PM
Great idea !!

Voted on the just_me thread. Also asked for this coin to be added to cryptsy. It definetely deserves a exchange.

Please send me a few so i can taste it while i manage to install the miner. I am having some problems with the user group installation and boinc :-?

FuEaBhknKDCcmjxPt4yPSSwnN8ehnMYD5N

Cheers,



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 28, 2013, 06:33:31 PM
the difficulty is already past 1 I think @ 200 khs it will take some time.

Hi @all

Thanks for bringing up this cool, energy saving coin *clapclap*

Problem although is, im mining gridcoins since 20hrs with approx. 200khashes with the latest client and cgminer 3.5.0 pointing to 127.0.0.1.
But either i have no luck or something is wrong - it does not find a block - still 0.00 GRC in the wallet.... :-[

I have tried both, pool and single mining. Boinc Processing Power shows 100.

anyone has an idea what could possibly be wrong  ???




Greetings from Austria!
a.


PS: just donated a BTC beer to gridcoin ;)
Spare GRC going here: Fww4Y7WdTs9ZSkDPj6P33w4MGbqkjHSWZT   




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 28, 2013, 06:40:54 PM
Hi Andrew, welcome to the club. If you want to build a mining rig you need good gpu.

Here is a video of 2 of my rigs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfJj4UZcU8

motherboard: asus crosshair IV extreme
gpu: radeon 5870
psu: 1000 watt ocz
cpu: AMD Phenom II X6 Six-Core Processor
ram: 6gb

If you want to build a rig I would recommend the MSI Radeon 7950 twin frozr gpu, i had 2 rigs with those gpu and they are great for mining.






Hi everyone!

I want to express a very big thank you to the creators of this coin!
It is such a pleasure to see that a good cause is being helped and the power put into mining is actually used and not just "thrown" away.

If you guys will keep up the great work you have done so far I can easily see Gridcoin becoming The new Bitcoin...but you are probably already aware of the breakthrough and revolution you are about to make here! ;)
Not just for cryptocurrencies but for all of the projects that are being helped!
This is really awesome!!! :)

That being said.
I would really like to start supporting GRC as much as possible. However since I do not come from IT(I am an FX trader) and have not mined any cryptos yet, I have no idea what I am doing :)..so I would really appreciate your help.

- Yesterday I downloaded and installed gridcoin-beta.msi & boinc_6.6.38_windows_intelx86.exe from here http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/get-started.html (http://www.gridcoinnetwork.org/get-started.html) with default settings and locations.
- Wallet synced well and Gridcoin Mining Module is working fine. After looking to troubleshooting I also upgraded .NET to the latest version to be safe.
- BOINC Manager runs Ok, 3 Projects added & tasks are being solved using CPU and NVIDIA GPU on my laptop.
- Also my Wallet and Mining Module do see the BOINC utilization and everything refreshes Ok.

There are 2 things I would need your help with:

1) Setting up my laptop to CPU mine, while the NVIDIA runs BOINC
2) On monday I am going to buy a dedicated pc just for mining Gridcoin&BOINC..so I would really appreciate suggestions on what setup should it be to best help the network. Also taking into account future developments in GRC. Budget ~$2k. I personally dont know how to complete the machine from individual parts, however I do have people that can do it for me..so buying individual parts is an option for me if it would be best suited to get most power for the budget.
@GRIDCOIN - Would you be able to help with this?

Please bear in mind that I am not an IT person so my questions might seem off and I need step by step instructions. :)

Thanks everyone for your help!
GO Gridcoin!!! ;)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 28, 2013, 06:46:37 PM
Is the pool still in beta or can anyone access it?  If so, how?
Hi Rum,

Regarding pool mining, its in prod now, 8 people are using it, and I think we will be OK until we have 100 people using it.  At that point the blocks will almost overload, and we plan on exercising the hourly payment option more on that later, but that should not be hard to turn on.  

Anyway, to use it, go into your gridcoin.conf and add the setting "poolmining=true", restart the wallet and everything is automatic.  When you mine blocks, your blocks * boincshares automatically go into pool1.  Then you can do a "listminers" and see yourself on the payment list (by looking for your default GRC receiving address).  You can switch in and out of the pool if you want.  If you type "getpoolminingmode" the wallet will tell you if your active.

Pool payments continue throughout the lookback period until that period elapses without finding a new block.

Best Regards,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aleistermarley on November 28, 2013, 06:59:44 PM
...still 0.00 GRC in the wallet...

When mining other coins there is the "new block detected" message every other minute in cgminer.
With gridcoin the console remains silent - only temp. and hashrate are updated once a second...
Is this normal??

greetings
a.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 28, 2013, 07:48:53 PM
are you using reaper or cgminer?

...still 0.00 GRC in the wallet...

When mining other coins there is the "new block detected" message every other minute in cgminer.
With gridcoin the console remains silent - only temp. and hashrate are updated once a second...
Is this normal??

greetings
a.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 28, 2013, 07:58:12 PM
Try the latest version of gridcoin-qt and try cgminer, should do the same as the other coins.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on November 29, 2013, 03:17:31 AM
Andrew, great to have you on board.  I'll help as much as I can but I have a Thanksgiving commitment coming up, so one thing you can do in the mean time is read the cryptocointalk thread for some more info and ask Aysyr for some help.  Of course if anyone can jump in, please help.

We are releasing a new version in the -beta section of the web site with a new sleeker look.  Check it out everyone.  Also, there is a relatively major hiccup fixed in that version that has to do with performance and one other background issue (having to do with what the client does when you mine a solo block) that can potentially help the long term reliability (it had a memory leak that we fixed), so please check out the new version.  One other major issue, I moved our code base back from reaper to guiminer, since many users want to use nvidia and cgminer.  So-- please move your guiminer folder to the c:\users\~appdata\roaming\gridcoin folder.  Rename it "guiminer".  This way, when we upgrade that folder will not be erased or marked read only.

Ill comment on the pool mining asap.

Good luck everyone,
Rob Halford

Hi Grid,
thanks for your quick reply.
I have gone through all the info you suggested and was able to do this progress towards my CPU mining:
1. wallet and mining console work fine, BOINC runs OK and console sees its processing power, threads and credits.
2. modified gridcoin.conf so it looks like this:
     server=1
     rpcuser=user
     rpcpassword=pass
     rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
     rpcport=9332
     cpumining=true
3. went through the setup to CPU mine you posted. Added project from projects in wallet to BOINC, set user name to my GRC address and named that address "Default" in wallet.
4. Boinc is online and running the selected project.

However I would like to check if what is written above is how it should be done and also would like to ask this:
a. How do I check that I am really mining? Am I correct in thinking that if the button "Test CPUMiner" in Mining Console returns something else then just blank "Output:" then I am actually mining?
b. How are the coins for CPU mining awarded? Do I first need to mine the block myself, or is that only in GPU mining?
c. Mining Console shows "Boinc KH/ps = 0" this should be higher if I'm really mining, right?
d. Can I run other Boinc projects simultaneously with the one required for CPU mining?

Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: basecoin on November 29, 2013, 07:27:25 AM
Man, we really need an exchange to pick up Gridcoin asap.

Anyone want to sell GRC, please PM me with your offer. BTC, LTC, PPC are acceptable.

You can sugest bter.com or btc38.com to add Gridcoin.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: basecoin on November 29, 2013, 07:29:48 AM

I just voted for gridcoin to be traded on cryptsy.com at the link below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349420.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349420.0)


Hey, can you reward me, by giving me some gridcoins? ( my pc is no good for mining so I am missing out )


FwY286Z4aqYoB5EZfhovf7HutbY9ERpX2q


Thanks


(get out there and vote gridcoiners )
Hey cool poll, thanks!   I voted.

Sent you some GRC also!


Working on a facelift for the wallet.


Grid







I also vote for gridcoin at this link, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349420.0, could you please give me some gridcoin as a reward?

Great thanks to you. My Gridcoin address is: FzZY7vBMrrQdkabKWbdWuyjtHsyRMg18Pn


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: derm on November 29, 2013, 02:52:37 PM
You are right, I think the project needs a sound branding, consistent colorset etc.
Do you know some apt designer?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 29, 2013, 03:48:56 PM
Gridcoin, which seems nice to me, desperately requires a decent logo to move on.

The current one is not acceptable in my eyes.

I agree, GRC have unbelievable dev, but marketing is poor so far.
I am sure lot of people are willing to help  ;)
FTC FTW! GRC FTW!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on November 29, 2013, 03:50:10 PM
And also having hosted forum on Cryptocointalk is a bad idea!
Aysyrs forum was good enough!!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 29, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
Hello all,

Yes, I think we do have a lot of room to improve in the marketing area.  We bootstrapped ourselves with the most basic logo, and then a volunteer created the latest one, and it was an improvement.
I'm willing to pay 1000GRC for a more professional logo that everyone accepts.  Any takers want to spend a small amount of time designing the first iteration and displaying it here and if we can have general acceptance, then finish the finer-details, and Ill pay for the winner.

Regarding the forum, I would like to eventually have a ticket system for issues and a more structured set of threads dont get me wrong.  I just want to make sure all of our users receive the critical updates and we make it through to become a more mature coin first.

Regarding the current wallets colors, I am fixing that now.  Yesterday's release was partially incomplete.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 29, 2013, 05:27:12 PM
All,

New release available:   4.73  in the prod and beta section of www.gridcoin.us.

In this version,  the colors and style sheets have been updated.  (Remaining white areas are inherited from the current windows theme; eventually we will have our cross-os programmer fix those on both platforms).

We had a user running a flash drive with boinc running in a nonstandard location ask if we could make a feature to honor that location, so we added two new keys that you can enter into your config, the main one being:
boincappfolder=C:\Program Files\Boinc\

Please set that key with your personal value if boinc is not located in "Program files" in windows.  Note: please use a trailing backslash as above.  Note: The App folder is where "boinc.exe" is located on your machine. 


Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: nappingpilot on November 29, 2013, 07:58:44 PM
On the 4.73 release - I immediately hit a problem and worked around it in Windows 8. 

Posting here to save others hassle :)

Problem: When I installed from .msi and fired up 4.73, a new mining console comes up.  Very snazzy - good - but frequently crashed after a couple minutes at most - bad.  Worse, the "Boinc MD5" on the new console displays something like 'Invalid checksum', so it's unable to see my copy of BOINC.  The 'old' mining console also displays Mining Module Registered Version 26, but Boinc Processing Power is 0, Threads is 0.  I tried all the usual tricks of registering the dll and tlb, no love. 

Solution:  From reading the beta threads - there's a problem in the new console where if you install BOINC in anything other than the default directory, the new console can't see BOINC.  I guess it's not using a registry setting.

Thankfully the new console now also has a setting (good call Rob) to find non default locations for BOINC.  You need to find your copy of gridcoin.conf (for me in windows 8, it was C:\Users\nappingpilot\AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin) and add the settings to wherever you've set BOINC and BOINC's data folder to.  For me, it was the following, your mileage will vary:

boincappfolder=F:\Gridcoin\BOINC\
boincdatafolder=F:\Gridcoin\BOINC\Data\

Restart client, restart BOINC, fire up miner, bam!  Good to go, back in business.  All the crashes are gone now too, it's stable for the past 45 minutes.  Keep up the fine work, dev team!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on November 29, 2013, 08:30:47 PM
I just found my first share while mining with poolmining=true but I didn't get any GRC in my wallet, why?
EDIT: Got only 1.51 GRC from mining for hours... I'll go back to solo mining.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 29, 2013, 09:04:30 PM
Hi Boing,

The thing about being in the pool is you will be paid for approximately 2 more days * the shares in the pool (lookback is determined by current difficulty), so even if you shut off pool mining, using historical information over the last 2 days, you should receive about 120 payments * the rbpps.  Youll see over the next 2 days about 120grc.  Are you user #1 in the pool FzXJFiqSedAUgsFUUczdr6m76T3TNrovUV?

Yeah, the payout is not all up front- you get paid as other pool members find blocks.

Best Regards,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on November 29, 2013, 09:09:28 PM
Uh oh, so I should get approx. 120 GRC in the next two days?
Nope, I'm FtWgehaapGH5cKSmMPEH91sVzxLUioNZ3s.

Oh and thanks for the replies! You don't see a developer replying to users everyday. :)

And he's very active on another forum too!  He's been very awesome since the release of this coin, it's already grown and added so much to it.  So many updates it can be hard to keep up with but I appreciate that a lot in a coin.

A lot more interest in this coin now then there was a couple weeks ago, soon more people will realize gridcoin > curecoin and it's already out. :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 29, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Uh oh, so I should get approx. 120 GRC in the next two days?
Nope, I'm FtWgehaapGH5cKSmMPEH91sVzxLUioNZ3s.

Oh and thanks for the replies! You don't see a developer replying to users everyday. :)

And he's very active on another forum too!  He's been very awesome since the release of this coin, it's already grown and added so much to it.  So many updates it can be hard to keep up with but I appreciate that a lot in a coin.

A lot more interest in this coin now then there was a couple weeks ago, soon more people will realize gridcoin > curecoin and it's already out. :)
Thanks all--
Boing, Yes if things stay the way they are you should receive 140-168grc in the next 48 hours.
Let everyone know if you do, and that should bring more confidence to pool mining since you mined one pool block, we'll see if it equals about 1 solo block.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on November 29, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
Uh oh, so I should get approx. 120 GRC in the next two days?
Nope, I'm FtWgehaapGH5cKSmMPEH91sVzxLUioNZ3s.

Oh and thanks for the replies! You don't see a developer replying to users everyday. :)

And he's very active on another forum too!  He's been very awesome since the release of this coin, it's already grown and added so much to it.  So many updates it can be hard to keep up with but I appreciate that a lot in a coin.

A lot more interest in this coin now then there was a couple weeks ago, soon more people will realize gridcoin > curecoin and it's already out. :)
Thanks all--
Boing, Yes if things stay the way they are you should receive 140-168grc in the next 48 hours.
Let everyone know if you do, and that should bring more confidence to pool mining since you mined one pool block, we'll see if it equals about 1 solo block.

Rob H.

And I was going to ask if I should pool mine or solo mine, hehe :P I guess only time will tell.
Oh and everyone, keep in mind that I did this with only 150 kH/s in few hours.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 29, 2013, 09:39:05 PM
I think as the difficulty goes up, for the average user it will be better to go the pool mining route.

Uh oh, so I should get approx. 120 GRC in the next two days?
Nope, I'm FtWgehaapGH5cKSmMPEH91sVzxLUioNZ3s.

Oh and thanks for the replies! You don't see a developer replying to users everyday. :)

And he's very active on another forum too!  He's been very awesome since the release of this coin, it's already grown and added so much to it.  So many updates it can be hard to keep up with but I appreciate that a lot in a coin.

A lot more interest in this coin now then there was a couple weeks ago, soon more people will realize gridcoin > curecoin and it's already out. :)
Thanks all--
Boing, Yes if things stay the way they are you should receive 140-168grc in the next 48 hours.
Let everyone know if you do, and that should bring more confidence to pool mining since you mined one pool block, we'll see if it equals about 1 solo block.

Rob H.

And I was going to ask if I should pool mine or solo mine, hehe :P I guess only time will tell.
Oh and everyone, keep in mind that I did this with only 150 kH/s in few hours.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 30, 2013, 04:32:55 PM
Working on the new GRC Upgrade feature now so users can type "upgrade" from the gridcoin command line to automatically upgrade the client.

This will alleviate the need to delete the program files (x86)\gridcoin directory between upgrades.

I realize some people do not want to automatically upgrade their files, so this will be optional, you have to manually type "upgrade" or from the program directory you can type "grcrestarter upgrade" outside of the client to upgrade on your own schedule.

This also fixes the bug where you have to unblock the download, the program will do it automatically.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: matt608 on November 30, 2013, 05:06:39 PM
Is there no Mac client?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on November 30, 2013, 06:34:40 PM
Hi All!
I have been CPU mining for almost 48 hours now, however I haven't yet received any reward.
Coul anyone please check my previous post on this page and check if the setup I have is correct one?

Thanks,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on November 30, 2013, 06:47:09 PM
Hi Andrew, welcome to the club. If you want to build a mining rig you need good gpu.

Here is a video of 2 of my rigs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfJj4UZcU8

motherboard: asus crosshair IV extreme
gpu: radeon 5870
psu: 1000 watt ocz
cpu: AMD Phenom II X6 Six-Core Processor
ram: 6gb

If you want to build a rig I would recommend the MSI Radeon 7950 twin frozr gpu, i had 2 rigs with those gpu and they are great for mining.

Hi traderman,
Thanks! Happy to join! :)

Thanks for the video and suggestions. At this moment it looks like I am going to get R9 280X..it seems to have best power/price ratio.
Also if we are talking about mining GRC, is the CPU I will get more important than with mining LTC...because of the BOINC part?

Regards,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 30, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
what motherboard are you getting?

Hi Andrew, welcome to the club. If you want to build a mining rig you need good gpu.

Here is a video of 2 of my rigs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfJj4UZcU8

motherboard: asus crosshair IV extreme
gpu: radeon 5870
psu: 1000 watt ocz
cpu: AMD Phenom II X6 Six-Core Processor
ram: 6gb

If you want to build a rig I would recommend the MSI Radeon 7950 twin frozr gpu, i had 2 rigs with those gpu and they are great for mining.

Hi traderman,
Thanks! Happy to join! :)

Thanks for the video and suggestions. At this moment it looks like I am going to get R9 280X..it seems to have best power/price ratio.
Also if we are talking about mining GRC, is the CPU I will get more important than with mining LTC...because of the BOINC part?

Regards,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on November 30, 2013, 07:43:26 PM
what motherboard are you getting?

Not sure yet..but probably something that can house 4+ cards.
From what I've seen on your video, there is some kind of extension from the slot on the motherboard to the cards that are hung from the top. Is this because these cards are wide and wouldn't fit on the motherboard next to each other in traditional way or is it because of cooling?

I am not going to definitely decide what to get, because I do not understand the HW side yet..my colleague who understands HW will make that decision.
However any info and suggestions from somone who has experience mining is greatly appreciated..what to do, what to avoid etc.

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: boopy265420 on November 30, 2013, 08:07:27 PM
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Thanks.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 30, 2013, 09:31:03 PM
Hi All!
I have been CPU mining for almost 48 hours now, however I haven't yet received any reward.
Coul anyone please check my previous post on this page and check if the setup I have is correct one?

Thanks,
Andrew.
Hi Andy--
Sorry for the delay, missed your last post about cpu mining.

First of all, the CPU-only mining feature is still in beta so the actual pay-out feature is not turned on, but I'm glad you are interested as I think it may become popular- you are the first user.

The CPU miner in the mining console is only there for security - it is not related to the CPU mining feature (even though the name is the same).  Anyway, the cpuminer (and cpuminer test) stores security info in the chain.  The CPU mining feature allows you to mine on the cpu only and be rewarded up to 150grc per day per boinc cpu-only user.  Yes, you can GPU-mine and cpu-mine at the same time.

Since you are the first user interested in testing, I will go along in parallel and work this out until we get the feature working.  You have your settings correct in the config file (cpumining=true).
Next, you said you already set up one of the 5 official boinc projects (the ones found in Boinc Projects screen, Malaria being #1).  You already set up your default GRC receiving address on the project web site.  Next ensure your receiving address in the Receive addressbook page is labeled as "Default" (by default, its labeled "Empty")- that has to be changed. 

Next go into the Projects screen and click Query.  Verify the avg credits value in the textbox next to the cpu project is 0 and there is no error on the screen to the right of the credits.  If it is -1, you may not have your receiving address registered.  Also verify boinc has done some work on that project, if so, what are your avg daily credits and project name?

On my machine, I have 821 daily credits showing for Malaria.  Once you are that far, we have to wait about 12 hrs to see if your machine sends out a beacon.  I just turned mine on, so we will have to wait a while.  Check the outgoing transactions to look for a transaction for .08GRC out.  You can label that GRC outbound address with your project, such as Malaria so you know what its for.

Once we get that far, let me know, and at that point we should see each other in the "listcpuminers" screen.  Then, we may be able to turn this feature on for payment in pool2.  The security upgrade is a higher priority so this may take more than 7 days to get to, but we'll see how far we get.

Best Regards,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on November 30, 2013, 09:36:37 PM
what motherboard are you getting?

Not sure yet..but probably something that can house 4+ cards.
From what I've seen on your video, there is some kind of extension from the slot on the motherboard to the cards that are hung from the top. Is this because these cards are wide and wouldn't fit on the motherboard next to each other in traditional way or is it because of cooling?

I am not going to definitely decide what to get, because I do not understand the HW side yet..my colleague who understands HW will make that decision.
However any info and suggestions from somone who has experience mining is greatly appreciated..what to do, what to avoid etc.

Andrew.
Regarding the cards hanging from the top of his cage, most of the litecoin miners get cards such as the radeon 7950 frozr, and in order to have more than 2, you need whats called a powered riser, usually a 7" PCI-E extension cable (you can actually buy them on amazon), and they can plug in the 1x PCIe slot :
 http://www.amazon.com/Powered-PCIe-Riser-Molex-Connector/dp/B00D7LEKUK
Yes, this keeps the heat way down because the cards are far apart.  Ive been buying 16" square clothes hampers and building a rig with 2 on the board, 2 screwed to the top of the hamper and placing a box fan on the top- the hampers have holes on the side for airflow.  Milk crates work good too, if you can find one that holds the board.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on November 30, 2013, 10:57:45 PM
Hi Andy--
Sorry for the delay, missed your last post about cpu mining.

First of all, the CPU-only mining feature is still in beta so the actual pay-out feature is not turned on, but I'm glad you are interested as I think it may become popular- you are the first user.

The CPU miner in the mining console is only there for security - it is not related to the CPU mining feature (even though the name is the same).  Anyway, the cpuminer (and cpuminer test) stores security info in the chain.  The CPU mining feature allows you to mine on the cpu only and be rewarded up to 150grc per day per boinc cpu-only user.  Yes, you can GPU-mine and cpu-mine at the same time.

Since you are the first user interested in testing, I will go along in parallel and work this out until we get the feature working.  You have your settings correct in the config file (cpumining=true).
Next, you said you already set up one of the 5 official boinc projects (the ones found in Boinc Projects screen, Malaria being #1).  You already set up your default GRC receiving address on the project web site.  Next ensure your receiving address in the Receive addressbook page is labeled as "Default" (by default, its labeled "Empty")- that has to be changed.  

Next go into the Projects screen and click Query.  Verify the avg credits value in the textbox next to the cpu project is 0 and there is no error on the screen to the right of the credits.  If it is -1, you may not have your receiving address registered.  Also verify boinc has done some work on that project, if so, what are your avg daily credits and project name?

On my machine, I have 821 daily credits showing for Malaria.  Once you are that far, we have to wait about 12 hrs to see if your machine sends out a beacon.  I just turned mine on, so we will have to wait a while.  Check the outgoing transactions to look for a transaction for .08GRC out.  You can label that GRC outbound address with your project, such as Malaria so you know what its for.

Once we get that far, let me know, and at that point we should see each other in the "listcpuminers" screen.  Then, we may be able to turn this feature on for payment in pool2.  The security upgrade is a higher priority so this may take more than 7 days to get to, but we'll see how far we get.

Best Regards,
Rob H.

Hi Rob,

Not a problem. I'm sure you have to be very busy.
Thanks for clearing everything out for me..as I've said I'm new to mining so my questions probably sound off sometimes.

From what you are writing it seems that everything on my side is probably setup correctly. Here is how it looks:
1. BOINC manager, the bottom one is the Malaria Control #1 in projects in wallet and its user name is set to the receiving address. http://i.imgur.com/2Q95pZr.png (http://i.imgur.com/2Q95pZr.png)
2. My wallet where the receiving address is labeled "Default" http://i.imgur.com/oy8rhDP.png (http://i.imgur.com/oy8rhDP.png)
3. This is the Projects from wallet and that is what is probably wrong. It shows "-11" and if I press "Query", nothing happens. http://i.imgur.com/oYFB4ns.png (http://i.imgur.com/oYFB4ns.png)
   I have checked that the receiving address labeled "Default" is same as the user name on malariacontrol.net project web site. Also there are ~3800 kredits with ~350 avg. credits. so it has done some work on that project. The project name is malariacontrol.net..To be sure I've checked that again since there are 2 malaria projects on BOINC.

I'll keep it open and running BOINC however until the #3 is not resolved and showing correct values it's not working, am I right?

Regards,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on November 30, 2013, 11:29:34 PM
Regarding the cards hanging from the top of his cage, most of the litecoin miners get cards such as the radeon 7950 frozr, and in order to have more than 2, you need whats called a powered riser, usually a 7" PCI-E extension cable (you can actually buy them on amazon), and they can plug in the 1x PCIe slot :
 http://www.amazon.com/Powered-PCIe-Riser-Molex-Connector/dp/B00D7LEKUK
Yes, this keeps the heat way down because the cards are far apart.  Ive been buying 16" square clothes hampers and building a rig with 2 on the board, 2 screwed to the top of the hamper and placing a box fan on the top- the hampers have holes on the side for airflow.  Milk crates work good too, if you can find one that holds the board.

Rob H.

Great, that is what I thought.

So regarding the BOINC part..for the future mining rewards, it also depends on the net # of BOINC credits that a particular miner creates, not only on the utilization, is that right? Or is it right only for CPU mining? Or not at all :)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on November 30, 2013, 11:39:23 PM
Ye the cards have to be separated otherwise they starting heating each other and that is very bad.

what motherboard are you getting?

Not sure yet..but probably something that can house 4+ cards.
From what I've seen on your video, there is some kind of extension from the slot on the motherboard to the cards that are hung from the top. Is this because these cards are wide and wouldn't fit on the motherboard next to each other in traditional way or is it because of cooling?

I am not going to definitely decide what to get, because I do not understand the HW side yet..my colleague who understands HW will make that decision.
However any info and suggestions from somone who has experience mining is greatly appreciated..what to do, what to avoid etc.

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on November 30, 2013, 11:53:41 PM
Ye the cards have to be separated otherwise they starting heating each other and that is very bad.

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

Also, out of curiosity, can I power 1 rig with more than one psu? Let's say I have a board that can house 7 cards, however even 1500w psu wouldn't be enough..can power 4 cards by one psu and 3 by another one?

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 01:14:24 AM
New version available for download (4.76):
* Fixes the Red X error that occasionally hangs up one of the charts.
* Adds the Upgrade feature, so you can type "upgrade" at the rpc prompt and automatically upgrade to newer versions.
* Implements a new command line diagnostic tool.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 01:20:33 AM
Hi Andy--
Sorry for the delay, missed your last post about cpu mining.

First of all, the CPU-only mining feature is still in beta so the actual pay-out feature is not turned on, but I'm glad you are interested as I think it may become popular- you are the first user.

The CPU miner in the mining console is only there for security - it is not related to the CPU mining feature (even though the name is the same).  Anyway, the cpuminer (and cpuminer test) stores security info in the chain.  The CPU mining feature allows you to mine on the cpu only and be rewarded up to 150grc per day per boinc cpu-only user.  Yes, you can GPU-mine and cpu-mine at the same time.

Since you are the first user interested in testing, I will go along in parallel and work this out until we get the feature working.  You have your settings correct in the config file (cpumining=true).
Next, you said you already set up one of the 5 official boinc projects (the ones found in Boinc Projects screen, Malaria being #1).  You already set up your default GRC receiving address on the project web site.  Next ensure your receiving address in the Receive addressbook page is labeled as "Default" (by default, its labeled "Empty")- that has to be changed.  

Next go into the Projects screen and click Query.  Verify the avg credits value in the textbox next to the cpu project is 0 and there is no error on the screen to the right of the credits.  If it is -1, you may not have your receiving address registered.  Also verify boinc has done some work on that project, if so, what are your avg daily credits and project name?

On my machine, I have 821 daily credits showing for Malaria.  Once you are that far, we have to wait about 12 hrs to see if your machine sends out a beacon.  I just turned mine on, so we will have to wait a while.  Check the outgoing transactions to look for a transaction for .08GRC out.  You can label that GRC outbound address with your project, such as Malaria so you know what its for.

Once we get that far, let me know, and at that point we should see each other in the "listcpuminers" screen.  Then, we may be able to turn this feature on for payment in pool2.  The security upgrade is a higher priority so this may take more than 7 days to get to, but we'll see how far we get.

Best Regards,
Rob H.

Hi Rob,

Not a problem. I'm sure you have to be very busy.
Thanks for clearing everything out for me..as I've said I'm new to mining so my questions probably sound off sometimes.

From what you are writing it seems that everything on my side is probably setup correctly. Here is how it looks:
1. BOINC manager, the bottom one is the Malaria Control #1 in projects in wallet and its user name is set to the receiving address. http://i.imgur.com/2Q95pZr.png (http://i.imgur.com/2Q95pZr.png)
2. My wallet where the receiving address is labeled "Default" http://i.imgur.com/oy8rhDP.png (http://i.imgur.com/oy8rhDP.png)
3. This is the Projects from wallet and that is what is probably wrong. It shows "-11" and if I press "Query", nothing happens. http://i.imgur.com/oYFB4ns.png (http://i.imgur.com/oYFB4ns.png)
   I have checked that the receiving address labeled "Default" is same as the user name on malariacontrol.net project web site. Also there are ~3800 kredits with ~350 avg. credits. so it has done some work on that project. The project name is malariacontrol.net..To be sure I've checked that again since there are 2 malaria projects on BOINC.

I'll keep it open and running BOINC however until the #3 is not resolved and showing correct values it's not working, am I right?

Regards,
Andrew.

Hi Andy,

I see your png's pictures, excellent, good job.
Well, I forgot something, no wonder it is not working.  We'll have to make a manual for this.
Once you do all that you did already, then we are supposed to go to the boinc web site for that particular project, for example, for Malaria, you log in to the same place you created your malaria account on their site (this is so there is no single point of failure for boinc API) and you find the link that lets you look at your average credits.  Find your userid, it should be a 5-7 digit numeric number.  Then take that number and put it in your Gridcoin Projects maintenance page in the textbox and press save (this info is only stored on your machine no one else can see it)- that is what links your wallet address to the boinc userid.

Then after it is saved (you can see it in gridcoin.conf, if you look) then click query.  The -11 should change to an amount of credits that matches Malaria.
Yeah, -11 means it cant find the userid.


Then, within 12 hours the program will send the beacon to the Malaria gridcoin project address with .04-.08grc in it.  At that point, we can run the "listcpuminers" and see if you are listed.

Ill wait for that.

Good luck,
Rob H.






Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 01:26:17 AM
Ye the cards have to be separated otherwise they starting heating each other and that is very bad.

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

Also, out of curiosity, can I power 1 rig with more than one psu? Let's say I have a board that can house 7 cards, however even 1500w psu wouldn't be enough..can power 4 cards by one psu and 3 by another one?

Andrew.
This is a very good question.
Technically it is possible to short circuit the motherboard On wire to Ground? to permanently keep a smaller PSU running and use that for one card, but I highly discourage that.  Ive been down that road using beat up parts and its really not worth it.  Your better off buying a corsair 1050watt power supply.  Also, the cheap ebay power supplies aren't really any good.  They might work for a month and then you have to buy the corsair and throw the other one in the trash.  Also, good power supplies have a single rail so you wont unbalance the load by accidentally pulling 300 amps from one mosfet.  You might have to pay $200 for a good power supply but the machine will be stable and you can run 4-5 cards off of it.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 01:38:03 AM
Regarding the cards hanging from the top of his cage, most of the litecoin miners get cards such as the radeon 7950 frozr, and in order to have more than 2, you need whats called a powered riser, usually a 7" PCI-E extension cable (you can actually buy them on amazon), and they can plug in the 1x PCIe slot :
 http://www.amazon.com/Powered-PCIe-Riser-Molex-Connector/dp/B00D7LEKUK
Yes, this keeps the heat way down because the cards are far apart.  Ive been buying 16" square clothes hampers and building a rig with 2 on the board, 2 screwed to the top of the hamper and placing a box fan on the top- the hampers have holes on the side for airflow.  Milk crates work good too, if you can find one that holds the board.

Rob H.

Great, that is what I thought.

So regarding the BOINC part..for the future mining rewards, it also depends on the net # of BOINC credits that a particular miner creates, not only on the utilization, is that right? Or is it right only for CPU mining? Or not at all :)

Andrew.
For the gpu miners, the 5-150 grc is based on proc utilization + threads + avg_daily_credits (for all projects summed).  The avg_daily_credits isnt quite turned on yet, but will definately get used when people are close to pool mining so as to compete with each other fairly.  For Cpu-only mining, Berkeley does the PoW through the api checked through a gpu miners node (ie not checked by yourself :), and its 100% based on the avg_daily_credits for the particular project that instance is working on.  For example, if your beacon went out for Malaria, you are competing against other Malaria miners in the CPU pool.  So technically, graphics cards do help on cpu-only mining, if they can raise the avg_daily_credits.   But while we are really small, youll probably get 150grc a day for a cpu, since were not splitting it up or competing with anyone.  When it heats up, the avg credits will actually matter, since it drives the boinc shares.

Id still build a rig, since you can make more GRC per hour, and you can do both.  The GPUs (and or asics in a few years) will always be part of the system since they check the work of the cpus and consolidate blocks.  Just so everyone knows my opinion, as long as asics are disruptive, we will make the program work for our group even if we have to embed our own scrypt miner in the program with a different password!  Im only for asics when they do not disturb our ecosystem.

Rob H.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Oscyf on December 01, 2013, 02:39:58 AM
If someone could create a project in boinc to heal brains, that aren't able to mine that beautiful coin, like mine, It would be wonderful !! :D


I have a few question if you can healp me :

- Are the wallet and boinc suffisant to mine or must we mine with cgminer too ?
- I see Boinc processor power 100 but boinc khps 0 oO! Is it normal ?
- I can't find myself in listminers but I'm registered in it ( I think ) getpoolminingmode gives : "PoolMiningMode=" : true

It seems obvious to mee that I'm not mining :/

Is a miner aside the wallet mandatory ? If yes, can I use reaper ?

Sorry for my English and for wasting your time

and thanks for your answers ^^


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 01, 2013, 03:23:51 AM
Hi Andy,

I see your png's pictures, excellent, good job.
Well, I forgot something, no wonder it is not working.  We'll have to make a manual for this.
Once you do all that you did already, then we are supposed to go to the boinc web site for that particular project, for example, for Malaria, you log in to the same place you created your malaria account on their site (this is so there is no single point of failure for boinc API) and you find the link that lets you look at your average credits.  Find your userid, it should be a 5-7 digit numeric number.  Then take that number and put it in your Gridcoin Projects maintenance page in the textbox and press save (this info is only stored on your machine no one else can see it)- that is what links your wallet address to the boinc userid.

Then after it is saved (you can see it in gridcoin.conf, if you look) then click query.  The -11 should change to an amount of credits that matches Malaria.
Yeah, -11 means it cant find the userid.


Then, within 12 hours the program will send the beacon to the Malaria gridcoin project address with .04-.08grc in it.  At that point, we can run the "listcpuminers" and see if you are listed.

Ill wait for that.

Good luck,
Rob H.

Hi Rob,

Thanks, screenshots always do a lot :)

I saved the User ID into Gridcoin Projects as you wrote, it is now in gridcoin.conf. It stays saved and after pressing "query" I can now see the credits. So it works perfectly, thanks!

Briefly for a couple of minutes after downloading the new version(4.77) now, the Gridcoin Project displayed "-3", however now it again shows correct number of credits..thought it might be helpful info.
"listcpuminer" now shows 5 miners, all of which according to grc addresses are yours :) I'll let you know as soon as the beacon is sent from my wallet and if it lists me.

I'll make a simple manual for the cpu mining setup, with some pictures tomorrow(its 4 in the morning in Europe so I'll be off soon) if it helps..I think I've already asked all the questions that a new user might want to know and it seems to work :)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 01, 2013, 03:38:43 AM
This is a very good question.
Technically it is possible to short circuit the motherboard On wire to Ground? to permanently keep a smaller PSU running and use that for one card, but I highly discourage that.  Ive been down that road using beat up parts and its really not worth it.  Your better off buying a corsair 1050watt power supply.  Also, the cheap ebay power supplies aren't really any good.  They might work for a month and then you have to buy the corsair and throw the other one in the trash.  Also, good power supplies have a single rail so you wont unbalance the load by accidentally pulling 300 amps from one mosfet.  You might have to pay $200 for a good power supply but the machine will be stable and you can run 4-5 cards off of it.

Rob H.

I'm still really new to mining but from what I've learned so far the 2 most important thinks to have the rig stable and running to its full potential is good power supply and cooling.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 01, 2013, 03:53:26 AM
For the gpu miners, the 5-150 grc is based on proc utilization + threads + avg_daily_credits (for all projects summed).  The avg_daily_credits isnt quite turned on yet, but will definately get used when people are close to pool mining so as to compete with each other fairly.  For Cpu-only mining, Berkeley does the PoW through the api checked through a gpu miners node (ie not checked by yourself :), and its 100% based on the avg_daily_credits for the particular project that instance is working on.  For example, if your beacon went out for Malaria, you are competing against other Malaria miners in the CPU pool.  So technically, graphics cards do help on cpu-only mining, if they can raise the avg_daily_credits.   But while we are really small, youll probably get 150grc a day for a cpu, since were not splitting it up or competing with anyone.  When it heats up, the avg credits will actually matter, since it drives the boinc shares.

Id still build a rig, since you can make more GRC per hour, and you can do both.  The GPUs (and or asics in a few years) will always be part of the system since they check the work of the cpus and consolidate blocks.  Just so everyone knows my opinion, as long as asics are disruptive, we will make the program work for our group even if we have to embed our own scrypt miner in the program with a different password!  Im only for asics when they do not disturb our ecosystem.

Rob H.

This is all perfectly thought out! :)
If I'm correct this all means that in the future it will be more and more important to dedicate as much computing power to BOINC projects from miners to get more shares and earn more GRC. More BOINC=More GRC, right? :)
What if someone would have a GPU rig mainly for mining with a low end CPU doing BOINC and maybe a server on a side with 2 Xeons doing A LOT of BOINC...would those results be added up for that miner, or you want to keep it one machine one result? Also the same for CPU mining..if I would use the same receiving address, same project and same ID on mupltiple machines, the shares will add up, right?

Sure I'll definately get the rig asap :) From what has been said I understand that the CPU the rig is going to have will be very important in the future when more and more miners come, right?

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 01, 2013, 04:02:14 AM
If someone could create a project in boinc to heal brains, that aren't able to mine that beautiful coin, like mine, It would be wonderful !! :D


I have a few question if you can healp me :

- Are the wallet and boinc suffisant to mine or must we mine with cgminer too ?
- I see Boinc processor power 100 but boinc khps 0 oO! Is it normal ?
- I can't find myself in listminers but I'm registered in it ( I think ) getpoolminingmode gives : "PoolMiningMode=" : true

It seems obvious to mee that I'm not mining :/

Is a miner aside the wallet mandatory ? If yes, can I use reaper ?

Sorry for my English and for wasting your time

and thanks for your answers ^^

Hi,

yeah, that would help me a lot too :)

Quote
- Are the wallet and boinc suffisant to mine or must we mine with cgminer too ?
For CPU mining the wallet and boinc are sufficient. For GPU mining you need the miner.

Quote
- I can't find myself in listminers but I'm registered in it ( I think ) getpoolminingmode gives : "PoolMiningMode=" : true
If I'm correct from what has been written here, you first need to mine a block before "listminers" recognizes you and you'll receive rewards.

I hope the answers are correct and infact help you :)
It definitely is not a waste of time :)

Regards,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 01, 2013, 04:36:25 AM
Hi GridCoin and Andrew,


Problem 1 :

I have done everything as you asked Andrew to do (since I am CPU mining as well) . However I am unlear by what you mean by "Gridcoin Projects maintenance page in the textbox"

Quote
Find your userid, it should be a 5-7 digit numeric number.  Then take that number and put it in your Gridcoin Projects maintenance page in the textbox and press save (this info is only stored on your machine no one else can see it)- that is what links your wallet address to the boinc userid.

I have SETI and Rosetta projects then would these be the pages - http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php) and http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/home.php (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/home.php) ? If those are the pages you mean by Gridcoin Projects maintainence page then I cant find the place to put my user id to connect to my wallet. Kindly let me know what I am doing wrong.


Problem 2 : GUI Miner missing

(From what I understand I cant CPU mine without GPU so this is a secondry but still an important step to make it more efficient.)

Also the mining console shows me "GUI Miner missing" at the bottom along with "0 KHps". I have the guiminer (extracted) folder at "C:\Program Files\Gridcoin" .
So I tried executing the guimer application from within the (extracted and correctly placed) folder but it displays a dialog box which says "Errors Occurred" - "See log file guiminer.exe for more details". The file shows the following
Code:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "guiminer.py", line 20, in <module>
  File "pyopencl\__init__.pyo", line 4, in <module>
  File "pyopencl\_cl.pyo", line 12, in <module>
  File "pyopencl\_cl.pyo", line 10, in __load
ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found.
ERROR:root:Exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "guiminer.py", line 3085, in run
  File "guiminer.py", line 2457, in __init__
  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 11206, in Enable
PyAssertionError: C++ assertion "item" failed at ..\..\src\common\menucmn.cpp(841) in wxMenuBase::Enable(): wxMenu::Enable: no such item
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "guiminer.py", line 3094, in <module>
  File "guiminer.py", line 3085, in run
  File "guiminer.py", line 2457, in __init__
  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 11206, in Enable
wx._core.PyAssertionError: C++ assertion "item" failed at ..\..\src\common\menucmn.cpp(841) in wxMenuBase::Enable(): wxMenu::Enable: no such item
ERROR:root:Exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "guiminer.py", line 3085, in run
  File "guiminer.py", line 2457, in __init__
  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 11206, in Enable
PyAssertionError: C++ assertion "item" failed at ..\..\src\common\menucmn.cpp(841) in wxMenuBase::Enable(): wxMenu::Enable: no such item
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "guiminer.py", line 3094, in <module>
  File "guiminer.py", line 3085, in run
  File "guiminer.py", line 2457, in __init__
  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 11206, in Enable
wx._core.PyAssertionError: C++ assertion "item" failed at ..\..\src\common\menucmn.cpp(841) in wxMenuBase::Enable(): wxMenu::Enable: no such item

Please let me know what I am doing wrong ?

Just for more clarity my gridcoin.conf has the following contents

Code:
server=1
rpcuser=myusername
rpcpassword=mypassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=9332
cpumining=true


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on December 01, 2013, 10:06:39 AM
Is there a way to change this black color on the GUI?
I just updated to the last version and now most of the GUI is black. o.o
http://i.imgur.com/X5ygmFt.png


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 01, 2013, 11:19:24 AM
bump ... still no reply to my previous problems (which I am classifying by numbers so you can deal with them in a more organized manner).... things are getting from bad to worse ... read on

Problem 3: Password problem

Now my desktop hung up and would show a black screen (its a fresh install of windows 7 so I suspect its your software).
After hanging up i restarted it and opened Boinc Manager window (its already on autostart preference). To my surprise it started saying "You have an incorrect password". And it said "disconnected" at the bottom. Since I had not changed the password at all I decided to reboot it and check. Again to my surprise it worked fine just as before.

These are unexpected things happening while running gridcoin-qt!!

Problem 4: Credits Problem

I have SETI and Rosetta running - SETI has completed 2 tasks while Rosetta has completed one.All the tasks show "ready to report" but Rosetta has granted credit while SETI has not granted any credit on their respective homepages. Why this discrepancy ?

You can see the images here to make things more clear http://imgur.com/iGUMZO6&a3D1ZBQ&Owu6U6B (http://imgur.com/iGUMZO6&a3D1ZBQ&Owu6U6B).

The Rosetta page is giving a "client error" on one of the tasks as is evident from the images. What is causing that ?

Also it has been about a day since the desktop has been running and there are credits on the rosetta page which show that some work has been done. However I have not received any gridcoins yet. Are the two numbers (credits on the home page and gridcoins recieved) related in some way ?

Dont get me wrong, I am all for science (infact I used to run BOINC on my desktop a couple of years back too) but if we are to make gridcoin successful then we need better support. Or a generations' computing resources are just going to go to waste !!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 03:36:22 PM
Just a few updates, and a very important message, and Ill try to answer the CPU mining questions asap.

1) Mac Client: Our Linux programmer has explained to me that he can handle the creation of the mac client.  The mac client depends on the Linux client.  The Linux client is currently back in development while we add the boinc security / cpuminer feature.  We'll start a thread for the progress on that.  So, mac client is not forgotten, it is behind the Linux version.

2) We are going to start enforcing the new boinchash starting with block 26150.  This should occur on Wednesday 12-4-2013 @ approximately 5PM CST.   Please upgrade your client before that date!!!!!! This is extremely important, because the older versions do not put all of the security information in the chain, and if you are running an older version (before version 25 in the mining screen), your blocks will not be accepted by anyone else on the network!  Therefore, you will not be able to mine!  So please upgrade now, and although we will have a new version available before that time, you will be able to type "upgrade" from the command line to get the latest before Wednesday.  I have been looking at the last 30 blocks, and I see approximately 33% of our network is still running the old version.  We should try to achieve 100% by Wednesday so miners aren't attempting to propogate bad blocks to the network.





Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 03:43:41 PM
If someone could create a project in boinc to heal brains, that aren't able to mine that beautiful coin, like mine, It would be wonderful !! :D


I have a few question if you can healp me :

- Are the wallet and boinc suffisant to mine or must we mine with cgminer too ?
- I see Boinc processor power 100 but boinc khps 0 oO! Is it normal ?
- I can't find myself in listminers but I'm registered in it ( I think ) getpoolminingmode gives : "PoolMiningMode=" : true

It seems obvious to mee that I'm not mining :/

Is a miner aside the wallet mandatory ? If yes, can I use reaper ?

Sorry for my English and for wasting your time

and thanks for your answers ^^
Hi Oscyf--
- Are the wallet and boinc suffisant to mine or must we mine with cgminer too ?
      Wallet + Boinc=CPUMining; Feature still in beta.  Currently you need guiminer or reaper or cgminer

- I see Boinc processor power 100 but boinc khps 0 oO! Is it normal ?
     Yes, normal.  As long as "Boinc Block:" has a hex # in it your console is fine.

- I can't find myself in listminers but I'm registered in it ( I think ) getpoolminingmode gives : "PoolMiningMode=" : true
    You have to successfully mine a full block before listminers picks you up in the pool.



Good luck.
Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 03:53:21 PM
Hi Andy,

I see your png's pictures, excellent, good job.
Well, I forgot something, no wonder it is not working.  We'll have to make a manual for this.
Once you do all that you did already, then we are supposed to go to the boinc web site for that particular project, for example, for Malaria, you log in to the same place you created your malaria account on their site (this is so there is no single point of failure for boinc API) and you find the link that lets you look at your average credits.  Find your userid, it should be a 5-7 digit numeric number.  Then take that number and put it in your Gridcoin Projects maintenance page in the textbox and press save (this info is only stored on your machine no one else can see it)- that is what links your wallet address to the boinc userid.

Then after it is saved (you can see it in gridcoin.conf, if you look) then click query.  The -11 should change to an amount of credits that matches Malaria.
Yeah, -11 means it cant find the userid.


Then, within 12 hours the program will send the beacon to the Malaria gridcoin project address with .04-.08grc in it.  At that point, we can run the "listcpuminers" and see if you are listed.

Ill wait for that.

Good luck,
Rob H.
Hi Andrew,

Glad to hear your project screen is now picking up credits.

Here are the codes explaining that -3 was apparently a bad internet connection to the Berkeley API at that particular time

        '-1 Wallet address does not match API address
        '-2 General Exception
        '-3 Cannot connect to Berkeley API
        '-11 Bad or missing ProjectId
        '-12 Invalid UserId
        'Positive number = User Project Avg Daily Credits

Should be ok in prod because GPU miners will check occasionally to try to fill in that number in their dictionary and that results in payment in pool2.

Thanks,
Rob H.




Hi Rob,

Thanks, screenshots always do a lot :)

I saved the User ID into Gridcoin Projects as you wrote, it is now in gridcoin.conf. It stays saved and after pressing "query" I can now see the credits. So it works perfectly, thanks!

Briefly for a couple of minutes after downloading the new version(4.77) now, the Gridcoin Project displayed "-3", however now it again shows correct number of credits..thought it might be helpful info.
"listcpuminer" now shows 5 miners, all of which according to grc addresses are yours :) I'll let you know as soon as the beacon is sent from my wallet and if it lists me.

I'll make a simple manual for the cpu mining setup, with some pictures tomorrow(its 4 in the morning in Europe so I'll be off soon) if it helps..I think I've already asked all the questions that a new user might want to know and it seems to work :)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 03:56:37 PM


Problem 1 :

I have done everything as you asked Andrew to do (since I am CPU mining as well) . However I am unlear by what you mean by "Gridcoin Projects maintenance page in the textbox"


------------->  From the wallet main page, click on "Projects".  The white textbox next to the project is the place you put in your boinc userid.



Problem 2 : GUI Miner missing

(From what I understand I cant CPU mine without GPU so this is a secondry but still an important step to make it more efficient.)

---------------------->  Gui miner should be the "scrypt alpha" version (not the sha version---- google GuiMiner Scrypt Alpha and youll find tacotimes thread on bitcointalk with the download).
Place it in your AppData directory (users~appdata\roaming\gridcoin) Not in your program files directory.


  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 11206, in Enable
PyAssertionError: C++ assertion "item" failed at ..\..\src\common\menucmn.cpp(841) in wxMenuBase::Enable(): wxMenu::Enable: no such item
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "guiminer.py", line 3094, in <module>
  File "guiminer.py", line 3085, in run
  File "guiminer.py", line 2457, in __init__

------------------------->  If you are receiving guiminer errors, try to mine litecoin and diagnose the issue first then come back to gridcoin (after you figure our how to mine with scrypt).





All the best,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 01, 2013, 04:02:31 PM
bump ... still no reply to my previous problems (which I am classifying by numbers so you can deal with them in a more organized manner).... things are getting from bad to worse ... read on

Problem 3: Password problem

Now my desktop hung up and would show a black screen (its a fresh install of windows 7 so I suspect its your software).
After hanging up i restarted it and opened Boinc Manager window (its already on autostart preference). To my surprise it started saying "You have an incorrect password". And it said "disconnected" at the bottom. Since I had not changed the password at all I decided to reboot it and check. Again to my surprise it worked fine just as before.

These are unexpected things happening while running gridcoin-qt!!


------------------>  You may want to solve your personal technical problems first.




Problem 4: Credits Problem

I have SETI and Rosetta running - SETI has completed 2 tasks while Rosetta has completed one.All the tasks show "ready to report" but Rosetta has granted credit while SETI has not granted any credit on their respective homepages. Why this discrepancy ?

You can see the images here to make things more clear http://imgur.com/iGUMZO6&a3D1ZBQ&Owu6U6B (http://imgur.com/iGUMZO6&a3D1ZBQ&Owu6U6B).

The Rosetta page is giving a "client error" on one of the tasks as is evident from the images. What is causing that ?


----------------->  The BOINC program and its errors should be taken up on the BOINC forums not on the Gridcoin forums!



Also it has been about a day since the desktop has been running and there are credits on the rosetta page which show that some work has been done. However I have not received any gridcoins yet. Are the two numbers (credits on the home page and gridcoins recieved) related in some way ?

Dont get me wrong, I am all for science (infact I used to run BOINC on my desktop a couple of years back too) but if we are to make gridcoin successful then we need better support. Or a generations' computing resources are just going to go to waste !!


-------------->  We may have to stop working on this CPU mining feature until it can be made easier to use.  Im personally not happy with the level of support required for the first 3 users :).  Sorry, but this is a large, complicated project and unless we can make this a little easier to deal with, this part of it MAY need shelved.  But for now, we'll keep moving and see how our first 2 users fare in pool2.









Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 02, 2013, 03:09:29 PM
-------------->  We may have to stop working on this CPU mining feature until it can be made easier to use.  Im personally not happy with the level of support required for the first 3 users :).  Sorry, but this is a large, complicated project and unless we can make this a little easier to deal with, this part of it MAY need shelved.  But for now, we'll keep moving and see how our first 2 users fare in pool2.

Hi Rob,

just posting what's also on the other forum so it's up to date here too.

Finally the beacon was sent out, transaction has been confirmed by the network and ''listcpuminers'' already recognizes me..so everything works perfectly now.
Since last time we talked about the beacon sending, my wallet has crashed twice(which didn't happen before)..I suppose it might have been due to it trying to send the beacon(also I might be totally wrong :)), however now since I updated to the latest version 4.77, the beacon went out and everything works fine and stable.

Today I'll try to create the CPU mining manual from what I know and post it..hope this will help.
 
Regards,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 02, 2013, 09:42:25 PM
Hi Rob,

Apparently I got things to work and all of a sudden I got a balance of about 0.0000x gridcoins (a teeny weeny amount).. they were unconfirmed transactions. So I thought I should restart the wallet and leave it on. But when I restarted the wallet (which also meant that the miner would shut down) , it said "rescanning" at the bottom of the wallet while opening and now I cant see the GRC credit I recieved.

Can you tell me why this happened ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 02, 2013, 09:43:25 PM
Hi Andrew--

Yeah, I think I introduced that crash when we adding the charting boinc historical avg_credits using the background thread, and Ive been trying to find that - actively.  I think we finally fixed it by charting on the main thread and fixing the "red X" that would occasionally appear on the chart; all 4 of my machines have been up for 30 hours now, so I am hoping that problem is behind us.

Regarding the beacon, I see you in position #2.  Glad we were able to move the project along to this point.  What are your total credits for that project?  Ill look into what our next step is in enabling pool2; but not sure how long that is going to take.  

Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 02, 2013, 09:56:25 PM
Hi Rob,

Ok just as I was writing a similar amount of credit appeared back into the wallet. Not sure if its the same. When I click on "Transactions" in the wallet it shows a big red square on the column to the left of "Date" column. Upon right clicking "Show transaction details" in the wallet it says -

"status: 0/offline, has not been successfully broadcast yet" and
"From: unknown" (along with transaction details.)

So something I am confused about is that - isn't the GRC to be credited with a minimum of 5 (+ depending on BOINC utilization ) ? I suppose the GRC I have are not there due to finding a block. Am I correct ? And if I am correct then it has already been more than a day easily since the miner has been running and no GRC yet ... is this normal (how long does it take?) ?

Also, one of the projects I have running is SETI , however it does not show up in the "Project Console" so that I can link my user id for the same(SETI) as you directed before.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 02, 2013, 10:09:04 PM
Hi Andrew--

Yeah, I think I introduced that crash when we adding the charting boinc historical avg_credits using the background thread, and Ive been trying to find that - actively.  I think we finally fixed it by charting on the main thread and fixing the "red X" that would occasionally appear on the chart; all 4 of my machines have been up for 30 hours now, so I am hoping that problem is behind us.

Regarding the beacon, I see you in position #2.  Glad we were able to move the project along to this point.  What are your total credits for that project?  Ill look into what our next step is in enabling pool2; but not sure how long that is going to take.  

Rob H.

Hi Rob,

Yes it works perfectly for me too since then.
Total credits for Malaria I have right now are 8884..not a lot, but it will definitely grow :)

Also I see that all your machines have different Project IDs so there are basically two options how to CPU mine:
1. Every machine that a user puts into CPU mining on a particular project can have its own BOINC account for that project(=different Project ID) and even if the user name(GRC address) will be same for all, the system will treat each machine as a new cpu miner instance in "listcpuminers" and BOINC credits/rewards etc. will be calculated for each one separately.
2. However if every machine that the users has CPU mining would have the same BOINC Project ID(only one account for all) then the BOINC credits will be summed up and ''listcpuminers'' will see this as a 1 miner.

Is that correct? Which solution would then be better for coin rewards?
Am I right in thinking that at the moment it is better to have the machines on separate Project IDs because the BOINC credits don't play that big of a role now, however in the future when there are a lot of miners the BOINC credits will play increasingly important role and it might be more efficient to have the machines on one Project ID to earn as much BOINC credits as possible?

Regards,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 02, 2013, 10:57:56 PM
Hi Andrew--

Yeah, I think I introduced that crash when we adding the charting boinc historical avg_credits using the background thread, and Ive been trying to find that - actively.  I think we finally fixed it by charting on the main thread and fixing the "red X" that would occasionally appear on the chart; all 4 of my machines have been up for 30 hours now, so I am hoping that problem is behind us.

Regarding the beacon, I see you in position #2.  Glad we were able to move the project along to this point.  What are your total credits for that project?  Ill look into what our next step is in enabling pool2; but not sure how long that is going to take.  

Rob H.

Hi Rob,

Yes it works perfectly for me too since then.
Total credits for Malaria I have right now are 8884..not a lot, but it will definitely grow :)

Also I see that all your machines have different Project IDs so there are basically two options how to CPU mine:
1. Every machine that a user puts into CPU mining on a particular project can have its own BOINC account for that project(=different Project ID) and even if the user name(GRC address) will be same for all, the system will treat each machine as a new cpu miner instance in "listcpuminers" and BOINC credits/rewards etc. will be calculated for each one separately.
2. However if every machine that the users has CPU mining would have the same BOINC Project ID(only one account for all) then the BOINC credits will be summed up and ''listcpuminers'' will see this as a 1 miner.

Is that correct? Which solution would then be better for coin rewards?
Am I right in thinking that at the moment it is better to have the machines on separate Project IDs because the BOINC credits don't play that big of a role now, however in the future when there are a lot of miners the BOINC credits will play increasingly important role and it might be more efficient to have the machines on one Project ID to earn as much BOINC credits as possible?

Regards,
Andrew.


Hi -- I realize it's a little convoluted, since we have a separate set of rules for cpuminers vs gpuminers. 

The Cpuminers payout structure is based 100% on the daily avg credits per boinc project summed, so if you have 1000 today for Malaria + 500 today for RNA, your pool2 entry for the day would be 1500 boinc shares for your single GRC address.  If you try to exploit that by opening up multiple GRC addresses your credits will go down on each account so you wont make any extra money.  Anyway, the reason the top of the listcpuminers report breaks out the credits by project is so the GPU miner can check those individually.  What happens is the GPU miners go down the list in the top section of the report and verify the credits (5 entries are in the report; so 5 checks are made by the gpu miner).  However, part II of the report consolidates the credits by GRC receiving address.  The user should technically be paid based on the outstanding owed for the day minus any previous payments by the pool when the next GPU user finds a block, over time.  We should add a section for the actual mechanics of the payout structure, ie how the shares affect the daily reward.

On a high level the original idea was to pay up to 576 cpu-only miners 150grc per day but using an RBPPS to arrive at a payment per miner based on their boincshares.  The max payment per day per receiving address is 150grc.  When more than 576 cpu-users participate, the pool total stays @ 576*150 (total), now divided by all participants  * RBPPS (boincshares per user).

We may have to start off with a smaller reward while we test this, more on that later after I check to see how we can even enable Pool2.

Thanks for writing the manual!

Have a good one,
Rob H.






Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 02, 2013, 11:35:41 PM
Man GPU mining seems to be so much easier. LOL

Hi Andrew--

Yeah, I think I introduced that crash when we adding the charting boinc historical avg_credits using the background thread, and Ive been trying to find that - actively.  I think we finally fixed it by charting on the main thread and fixing the "red X" that would occasionally appear on the chart; all 4 of my machines have been up for 30 hours now, so I am hoping that problem is behind us.

Regarding the beacon, I see you in position #2.  Glad we were able to move the project along to this point.  What are your total credits for that project?  Ill look into what our next step is in enabling pool2; but not sure how long that is going to take.  

Rob H.

Hi Rob,

Yes it works perfectly for me too since then.
Total credits for Malaria I have right now are 8884..not a lot, but it will definitely grow :)

Also I see that all your machines have different Project IDs so there are basically two options how to CPU mine:
1. Every machine that a user puts into CPU mining on a particular project can have its own BOINC account for that project(=different Project ID) and even if the user name(GRC address) will be same for all, the system will treat each machine as a new cpu miner instance in "listcpuminers" and BOINC credits/rewards etc. will be calculated for each one separately.
2. However if every machine that the users has CPU mining would have the same BOINC Project ID(only one account for all) then the BOINC credits will be summed up and ''listcpuminers'' will see this as a 1 miner.

Is that correct? Which solution would then be better for coin rewards?
Am I right in thinking that at the moment it is better to have the machines on separate Project IDs because the BOINC credits don't play that big of a role now, however in the future when there are a lot of miners the BOINC credits will play increasingly important role and it might be more efficient to have the machines on one Project ID to earn as much BOINC credits as possible?

Regards,
Andrew.


Hi -- I realize it's a little convoluted, since we have a separate set of rules for cpuminers vs gpuminers. 

The Cpuminers payout structure is based 100% on the daily avg credits per boinc project summed, so if you have 1000 today for Malaria + 500 today for RNA, your pool2 entry for the day would be 1500 boinc shares for your single GRC address.  If you try to exploit that by opening up multiple GRC addresses your credits will go down on each account so you wont make any extra money.  Anyway, the reason the top of the listcpuminers report breaks out the credits by project is so the GPU miner can check those individually.  What happens is the GPU miners go down the list in the top section of the report and verify the credits (5 entries are in the report; so 5 checks are made by the gpu miner).  However, part II of the report consolidates the credits by GRC receiving address.  The user should technically be paid based on the outstanding owed for the day minus any previous payments by the pool when the next GPU user finds a block, over time.  We should add a section for the actual mechanics of the payout structure, ie how the shares affect the daily reward.

On a high level the original idea was to pay up to 576 cpu-only miners 150grc per day but using an RBPPS to arrive at a payment per miner based on their boincshares.  The max payment per day per receiving address is 150grc.  When more than 576 cpu-users participate, the pool total stays @ 576*150 (total), now divided by all participants  * RBPPS (boincshares per user).

We may have to start off with a smaller reward while we test this, more on that later after I check to see how we can even enable Pool2.

Thanks for writing the manual!

Have a good one,
Rob H.







Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 03, 2013, 01:35:28 AM
Hi -- I realize it's a little convoluted, since we have a separate set of rules for cpuminers vs gpuminers. 

The Cpuminers payout structure is based 100% on the daily avg credits per boinc project summed, so if you have 1000 today for Malaria + 500 today for RNA, your pool2 entry for the day would be 1500 boinc shares for your single GRC address.  If you try to exploit that by opening up multiple GRC addresses your credits will go down on each account so you wont make any extra money.  Anyway, the reason the top of the listcpuminers report breaks out the credits by project is so the GPU miner can check those individually.  What happens is the GPU miners go down the list in the top section of the report and verify the credits (5 entries are in the report; so 5 checks are made by the gpu miner).  However, part II of the report consolidates the credits by GRC receiving address.  The user should technically be paid based on the outstanding owed for the day minus any previous payments by the pool when the next GPU user finds a block, over time.  We should add a section for the actual mechanics of the payout structure, ie how the shares affect the daily reward.

On a high level the original idea was to pay up to 576 cpu-only miners 150grc per day but using an RBPPS to arrive at a payment per miner based on their boincshares.  The max payment per day per receiving address is 150grc.  When more than 576 cpu-users participate, the pool total stays @ 576*150 (total), now divided by all participants  * RBPPS (boincshares per user).

We may have to start off with a smaller reward while we test this, more on that later after I check to see how we can even enable Pool2.

Thanks for writing the manual!

Have a good one,
Rob H.

Hi,

Thanks for clearing everything out. I'm just trying to understand how it all works.
The CPU mining and payout systems actually make perfect sense when you explain it.

Right, so if #of users < 576 then max payout per address=150, meaning if somone wants to generate more money, they would need to have different GRC address on each machine...however when #users > 576 and the Pool2 coin cap is reached(576*150) then it will be switched to the 576*150/#users*RBPPS formula and the same user would need to switch all machines to one address in order to generate as much BOINC credits as possible because their GRC payout will be mainly dependant on them.
Basically in the end, both of these approaches will generate the same amout of work for BOINC which is very good..the only difference will be in the payout for the early miners.

Also regarding the beacon etc.:
1. The beacon for one address needs to really be sent out only once so the system recognizes the miner, right? If I would shutdown the pc and start mining again tomorrow I wouldn't need to wait for another beacon before I'm listed..is it a sort of a registration, like when miners with GPUs first need to mine their own block before they are listed?
2. In order to keep CPU mining, there have to be running BOINC + Wallet + Mining Console on the machine..or is it just BOINC+Wallet? Guiminer can be shut down?

Not a problem, I'd like to help and not just ask questions :)
Thanks, you too,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 03, 2013, 01:38:57 AM
Man GPU mining seems to be so much easier. LOL

As Rob said, it is a new feature.. I'm sure in the end it will be even easier to set up than GPU mining. :)
I finally have the setup for my rig, however the cards I want to buy are hopelessly sold out...so I will have to wait for 2 weeks before they arrive.
That's why I'm eager to start CPU mining ;)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 03, 2013, 01:47:42 AM
Lately I was looking on amazon and ebay and to my surpirse there was not much available in terms of GPUs.

Man GPU mining seems to be so much easier. LOL

As Rob said, it is a new feature.. I'm sure in the end it will be even easier to set up than GPU mining. :)
I finally have the setup for my rig, however the cards I want to buy are hopelessly sold out...so I will have to wait for 2 weeks before they arrive.
That's why I'm eager to start CPU mining ;)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 03, 2013, 02:10:04 AM
Lately I was looking on amazon and ebay and to my surpirse there was not much available in terms of GPUs.

Exactly.
Although NVIDIA cards are available without a problem. Which is great, but not for mining. :)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 03, 2013, 04:08:24 AM
Can you help me a bit Andrew ? Rob doesn't seem to be answering for now,

Hi Rob,

Ok just as I was writing a similar amount of credit appeared back into the wallet. Not sure if its the same. When I click on "Transactions" in the wallet it shows a big red square on the column to the left of "Date" column. Upon right clicking "Show transaction details" in the wallet it says -

"status: 0/offline, has not been successfully broadcast yet" and
"From: unknown" (along with transaction details.)

So something I am confused about is that - isn't the GRC to be credited with a minimum of 5 (+ depending on BOINC utilization ) ? I suppose the GRC I have are not there due to finding a block. Am I correct ? And if I am correct then it has already been more than a day easily since the miner has been running and no GRC yet ... is this normal (how long does it take?) ?

Also, one of the projects I have running is SETI , however it does not show up in the "Project Console" so that I can link my user id for the same(SETI) as you directed before.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: WillBit on December 03, 2013, 04:47:07 AM
Where can I buy Gridcoin at?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 03, 2013, 04:55:53 AM
Hi WillBit,

Where can I buy Gridcoin at?

There is no marketplace yet ... will be added in the future (soon I hope).


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 03, 2013, 06:03:40 AM
Hey all,

I found gridcoin tonight, after having talked about this very need for a boinc coin last week with a buddy :) Yay!

I just set poolmining to true, and restarted the wallet while cudaminer worked in the background.
What happens to the work done over the last few hours? Does it get tossed?

Been reading the whole thread while waiting for my newbie status to pass. Lots of great info.

Now I have a question for the devs :) Is it possible to buy gridcoins directly from the devs to support things like the logo art, website design, beer and pizza?

I have $50 with your names on it   :o


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: WillBit on December 03, 2013, 08:38:39 AM
I've been trading crypto currencies for 1.5 years now.  This is the first currency I've been excited enough about to download and sync the client.  Love the Gridcoin concept!

FteJtaUYYs34nz5ueT1pFW83nQo9C4KV25


I'm definitely interested in purchasing a large amount with Bitcoin.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 03, 2013, 10:58:49 AM
Can you help me a bit Andrew ? Rob doesn't seem to be answering for now,

Hi Rob,

Ok just as I was writing a similar amount of credit appeared back into the wallet. Not sure if its the same. When I click on "Transactions" in the wallet it shows a big red square on the column to the left of "Date" column. Upon right clicking "Show transaction details" in the wallet it says -

"status: 0/offline, has not been successfully broadcast yet" and
"From: unknown" (along with transaction details.)

So something I am confused about is that - isn't the GRC to be credited with a minimum of 5 (+ depending on BOINC utilization ) ? I suppose the GRC I have are not there due to finding a block. Am I correct ? And if I am correct then it has already been more than a day easily since the miner has been running and no GRC yet ... is this normal (how long does it take?) ?

Also, one of the projects I have running is SETI , however it does not show up in the "Project Console" so that I can link my user id for the same(SETI) as you directed before.

Hi thenoblebot,

I'm not sure about the transactions part from your post.

However, regarding the projects..for CPU mining you need to be registered and have BOINC running at least one of the projects that are listed in "BOINC Projects" in your wallet. Do following:
1. Choose a project from "BOINC Projects" add it to your BOINC manager and set its username on the project website to your GRC receiving address.
2. In your Wallet set that same receiving addresses name to "Default".
3. Go to "BOINC Projects" in your wallet, find the project you added and fill in your "User ID" that can be found in your account settings on that projects website. Press save. After a while if you press "Query Credits" it will change to show the actual number of avg. daily credits you did for that project.

Now you should be CPU mining. The last thing that you need to wait for is sending a beacon.. As Rob said, 1-2 times a day a small payment will be automatically sent from your wallet(~0.05GRC) and after that has been sent and recognized by the GPU miners(~15-20mins) you will now be recognized by the system..If you go to the "Debug Console" and write "listcpuminers" you should now be listed.(look for your address).

Hope this helps.
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 03, 2013, 12:42:33 PM
Hi Andrew,
Really really appreciate your time and reply. Regarding the points you have made
Quote
1. Choose a project from "BOINC Projects" add it to your BOINC manager and set its username on the project website to your GRC receiving address.
I have 4 out of the 5 projects running. Infact I had SETI too but I removed it since it wasn't in the list. I am being shows credits for the Malaria, RNA, ROsetta and Milkyway projects. However they are all less than 30. Is this normal ? Also for the project that I have not attached to BOINC (namely.. Docker) it is showing a "-11". Is that a problem or is it normal to show that for projects not attached ? Also in BOINC Manager under "Tasks"-> "Name" it shows the name of the task right ? or should that too be my recieving address (I think it should be the name of the task but just asking to make sure)?

Quote
2. In your Wallet set that same receiving addresses name to "Default".

Done that. My "gridcoin.conf" also shows projects listed. Have attached images below.Would you be kind enough to have a look once and tell me if something is wrong ?

Quote
3. Go to "BOINC Projects" in your wallet, find the project you added and fill in your "User ID" that can be found in your account settings on that projects website. Press save. After a while if you press "Query Credits" it will change to show the actual number of avg. daily credits you did for that project.

Done that too. See images below please if its correct, would be very helpful of you.

http://imgur.com/d23fYmR,RxzYzui,cAyVmb6,UCcbwuw,COUYJiJ#0 (http://imgur.com/d23fYmR,RxzYzui,cAyVmb6,UCcbwuw,COUYJiJ#0)

Quote
The last thing that you need to wait for is sending a beacon.. As Rob said, 1-2 times a day a small payment will be automatically sent from your wallet(~0.05GRC) and after that has been sent and recognized by the GPU miners(~15-20mins) you will now be recognized by the system..If you go to the "Debug Console" and write "listcpuminers" you should now be listed.(look for your address).

Do you mean the payment will be made "from"(outgoing payment from me) my wallet or "to"(me recieving payment) my wallet ? Because I have recieved another small payment of 0.00000267 GRC. AFAIK its not related to CPU mining. I am almost sure I have everything correct. Another question is that do you receive some error when opening gridcoin-qt ? Because I always get a message asking to check "guiminerl.exe.log" and that shows a "pyopencl" dll load failed error. So I have to manually start it. And then it says - nothing to mine .. in a command prompt window and then the window closes. However, when I click "TestCPUMiner" in the mining console then it gives me a result in an alert box. Is this ok ? Because I still cant see my address with the command "listcpuminers" from the debug window and my machine has been running for the past 2 days (with all the adjustments that you have asked me to do probably 6-8 hours).

Can you let me know your opinion on this ? And once again I thoroughly appreciate your help mate. Feels good to be shown some direction when I was almost on the verge of giving up. So thank you again Andrew.

Regards


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: INSeed on December 03, 2013, 12:58:55 PM

However, regarding the projects..for CPU mining you need to be registered and have BOINC running at least one of the projects that are listed in "BOINC Projects" in your wallet. Do following:
1. Choose a project from "BOINC Projects" add it to your BOINC manager and set its username on the project website to your GRC receiving address.
2. In your Wallet set that same receiving addresses name to "Default".
3. Go to "BOINC Projects" in your wallet, find the project you added and fill in your "User ID" that can be found in your account settings on that projects website. Press save. After a while if you press "Query Credits" it will change to show the actual number of avg. daily credits you did for that project.

Now you should be CPU mining. The last thing that you need to wait for is sending a beacon.. As Rob said, 1-2 times a day a small payment will be automatically sent from your wallet(~0.05GRC) and after that has been sent and recognized by the GPU miners(~15-20mins) you will now be recognized by the system..If you go to the "Debug Console" and write "listcpuminers" you should now be listed.(look for your address).

Hope this helps.
Andrew.

I registered to projects on Boincstats to have only one account for multiple projects, where do I find the "User ID" to add in the wallet "BOINC Projects" tab ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 03, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
Same here, definitely one of the most innovative and unique concepts with a great development team.

I've been trading crypto currencies for 1.5 years now.  This is the first currency I've been excited enough about to download and sync the client.  Love the Gridcoin concept!

FteJtaUYYs34nz5ueT1pFW83nQo9C4KV25


I'm definitely interested in purchasing a large amount with Bitcoin.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 03, 2013, 04:19:48 PM
Hi Andrew and Gridcoin,

Just an update. I tried installing the same thing on a fresh install of windows 7. Ultimately it comes down to the log file of guiminer. I think that is the root of the problem. Here is a screen shot of what happens. http://imgur.com/RYQMm4x,MC8wQsf (http://imgur.com/RYQMm4x,MC8wQsf) (along with that are the tiny transactions I was referring to).

I have done everything you guys have asked. Almost on the verge of giving up now after trying it multiple times on different machines.

Andrew - if you can tell me the process you followed to get the cpu miner to work then it would be great. You have been of great help thanks a lot again.

Gridcoin - I have given this 3 days now, I don't think I will be able to devote more time (maybe another day to try), in spite of the fact that I would love to be a part of this project (but cant ignore electricity costs too if one does not get mining rewards). Still wish you guys the best. I have provided screenshot of where the problem lies. Hope it can be resolved for the benefit of others trying to join the project.

Update : According to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63699.msg747636#msg747636 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63699.msg747636#msg747636) guiminer has problems with pyopencl, something that I have previously highlighted here. Hope someone can explain that too.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 03, 2013, 04:51:17 PM
Instead of wasting time with this, just run your GPU, much easier and much faster and more profitable.

Hi Andrew and Gridcoin,

Just an update. I tried installing the same thing on a fresh install of windows 7. Ultimately it comes down to the log file of guiminer. I think that is the root of the problem. Here is a screen shot of what happens. http://imgur.com/RYQMm4x,MC8wQsf (http://imgur.com/RYQMm4x,MC8wQsf) (along with that are the tiny transactions I was referring to).

I have done everything you guys have asked. Almost on the verge of giving up now after trying it multiple times on different machines.

Andrew - if you can tell me the process you followed to get the cpu miner to work then it would be great. You have been of great help thanks a lot again.

Gridcoin - I have given this 3 days now, I don't think I will be able to devote more time (maybe another day to try), in spite of the fact that I would love to be a part of this project (but cant ignore electricity costs too if one does not get mining rewards). Still wish you guys the best. I have provided screenshot of where the problem lies. Hope it can be resolved for the benefit of others trying to join the project.

Update : According to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63699.msg747636#msg747636 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63699.msg747636#msg747636) guiminer has problems with pyopencl, something that I have previously highlighted here. Hope someone can explain that too.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 03, 2013, 05:33:01 PM
Quote
Instead of wasting time with this, just run your GPU, much easier and much faster and more profitable.

Hi traderman,

Currently I don't have a GPU. Any recommendations on which one I should get ? I was trying to cpu mine because I have a couple of old laptops which I could put to use with this. Any suggestion on guides to building a GPU mining rig (I am new to this) ? Preferably the best hashes/power ratio.
I happened to look at the litecoin hardware comparison and 7990 sapphire seems good but does it need watercooling ? (sorry I am really new to mining but I am prepared to make the investment).
Also when you say faster and more profitable - any idea how much more profitable it is to GPU mine than only CPU mine ?

I have an ASUS p5G41t-M motherboard and hardly know anything about the hardware requirements .. any pointers would be more than welcome. In fact I would be really thankful if someone could point me in the right direction.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 03, 2013, 05:55:39 PM
Hmmm. I must be doing something wrong. I'm set up for the pool. I'm seeing it process, but my has rate in the mining console is 0 and I've seen no progress in collecting coins.

Using cudaminer. Anyone else?

Adding a screenshot of the current output:

http://mootations.info/gallery/gridcoin.png

Weird. Not working. Image is at http://mootations.info/gallery/gridcoin.png


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: extro24 on December 03, 2013, 06:16:35 PM
My question - can I actually buy parallel processing power with gridcoins?  I am thinking of things like raytracing for animation.  Can I submit workunits and pay for the processing with gridcoins?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 03, 2013, 06:29:08 PM
Get a msi twin frozr 7950. It is a great card for mining scrypt. I have a few myself. There is a 3 year warranty on it so you are covered if anything happens to the card.
It gets around 600kh/s and you will mine a nice amount of Gridcoins with it.

If you don't have the cash for a 7950 the next best thing is radeon 5870, it gets around 400kh/s.

Quote
Instead of wasting time with this, just run your GPU, much easier and much faster and more profitable.

Hi traderman,

Currently I don't have a GPU. Any recommendations on which one I should get ? I was trying to cpu mine because I have a couple of old laptops which I could put to use with this. Any suggestion on guides to building a GPU mining rig (I am new to this) ? Preferably the best hashes/power ratio.
I happened to look at the litecoin hardware comparison and 7990 sapphire seems good but does it need watercooling ? (sorry I am really new to mining but I am prepared to make the investment).
Also when you say faster and more profitable - any idea how much more profitable it is to GPU mine than only CPU mine ?

I have an ASUS p5G41t-M motherboard and hardly know anything about the hardware requirements .. any pointers would be more than welcome. In fact I would be really thankful if someone could point me in the right direction.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 03, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
Does the graphing in the mining module work for anyone else? I feel like I'm just on the edge of having it work right :)

edit: I've started getting half coins now! Woot :) Must have fixed the mining when I restarted cudaminer after the poolmining was activated. (I think it still thought it was solo mining since I'd just restarted the client).
Graph is still inactive though.

Request for option: Theme creation. Just a couple of hex values that people can use to tweak the appearance in the conf. That green and black or green and white really don't work in some places.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 03, 2013, 10:18:48 PM
Hi,

The graphing will work if you have boinc in the standard location.  If not follow the instructions for setting the boincappfolder path.

Regarding the theme colors, that's unfortunately down on the bottom of the priority list (was able to get to that since I worked on Thanksgiving!).

PM Aysyr to put it on the todo list.

Regarding site structure, I see we are in desperate need of organization.  I'd suggest Aysyrs forum again, but I think we really need to hit 5 in difficulty first.
In the mean time, I'll look into creating more organized threads.

There is a lot of exciting stuff going on.  I am currently involved in writing a new GPU mining specification that may replace scrypt.  What is exciting, at least to me, is the ability to write a specification that includes a new Sleep algorithm as part of the operation of the hash function, to make Gridcoin the most efficient coin out there period, and possibly others will want to adopt this new algorithm as well.  I can't give away all the details yet, but on the surface it would appear that your GPU card was saving 75% of the energy, but doing all of the same work.  It works by using a new type of receiving wallet address, one that takes 5 hours to generate.  Your GPU is only allowed to cryptographically work during certain timeslices that are bound cryptographically to wallet timeslices, depending on how the algorithm uses the GPUs parallel processing threads.  That's all I can say now, but the bottom line is if we end up adopting this spec, we will be able to bring GPU miners from other coins to Gridcoin and save 75% of the required watts per hour, but still achieve the same mining results.

In light of all that that is my new top priority; so I will be reducing the priority level of the CPU-mining until progress is made on this.  In the mean time, I look forward to tomorrows upgrade as we enforce the new level of security in the chain!

Rob Halford



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 03, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
Ooh a new algorithm? Interest piqued :)

I have the app installed in the standard place. Odd that I'm not seeing the graph.

I'm seeing some coins trickle in now though. About .5 anywhere from 5 minutes to an hour apart.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 03, 2013, 10:45:33 PM
If I listcpuminers, should I see my GRC address among the pool?
I see 4 users listed but none with my address in the "GRC Address" key.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 03, 2013, 10:52:03 PM
Sounds very interesting, can't wait. If you can actually decrease the power consumption of the GPU that will be a huge deal. That is an enormous incentive for miners.

Hi,

The graphing will work if you have boinc in the standard location.  If not follow the instructions for setting the boincappfolder path.

Regarding the theme colors, that's unfortunately down on the bottom of the priority list (was able to get to that since I worked on Thanksgiving!).

PM Aysyr to put it on the todo list.

Regarding site structure, I see we are in desperate need of organization.  I'd suggest Aysyrs forum again, but I think we really need to hit 5 in difficulty first.
In the mean time, I'll look into creating more organized threads.

There is a lot of exciting stuff going on.  I am currently involved in writing a new GPU mining specification that may replace scrypt.  What is exciting, at least to me, is the ability to write a specification that includes a new Sleep algorithm as part of the operation of the hash function, to make Gridcoin the most efficient coin out there period, and possibly others will want to adopt this new algorithm as well.  I can't give away all the details yet, but on the surface it would appear that your GPU card was saving 75% of the energy, but doing all of the same work.  It works by using a new type of receiving wallet address, one that takes 5 hours to generate.  Your GPU is only allowed to cryptographically work during certain timeslices that are bound cryptographically to wallet timeslices, depending on how the algorithm uses the GPUs parallel processing threads.  That's all I can say now, but the bottom line is if we end up adopting this spec, we will be able to bring GPU miners from other coins to Gridcoin and save 75% of the required watts per hour, but still achieve the same mining results.

In light of all that that is my new top priority; so I will be reducing the priority level of the CPU-mining until progress is made on this.  In the mean time, I look forward to tomorrows upgrade as we enforce the new level of security in the chain!

Rob Halford




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: damgfx on December 04, 2013, 12:05:40 AM
GBEyGbTWByzMXkNHXQvdkvc27tVion3Pr4

Thanks  :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 04, 2013, 12:11:19 AM
For those mining with an nvidia card, I'm doing about 106 kilo hashes, plus CPU and I've done 9.5 GRC in the last seven hours.
Does that match up to your stats?

I think I'm fully functional now except for my graphing.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 04, 2013, 12:46:20 AM
For those mining with an nvidia card, I'm doing about 106 kilo hashes, plus CPU and I've done 9.5 GRC in the last seven hours.
Does that match up to your stats?

I think I'm fully functional now except for my graphing.

I'm assuming that you're doing pool mining? If so, and you just started mining seven hours ago, the pooled mining works like PPLNS where it starts small, increments to your actual proportional share, then tapers off back to 0 after you stop mining. So that should increase throughout the next 24 hours to your proper average, and after you stop mining, it'll continue to pay you for about another 24 hours after you stop, slowly going to 0 each pool pay.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 04, 2013, 12:54:10 AM
Yup. I'm pool mining today. Before that I'd just been solo mining but couldn't wait days to see if I was doing it right :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: WillBit on December 04, 2013, 02:38:14 AM
Does anyone know where I can find what the total number of Gridcoins in circulation is?


Also, what year do you estimate all 168,000,000 coins will be mined by?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: COINPRADER on December 04, 2013, 03:49:16 AM
Hmm, I actually got 67 coins mined solo on FzgFStAgCXQGRkAPQjyooi7T82XSuRPF1m, then they disappeared tonight.  Was there an update or something?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: seleme on December 04, 2013, 04:46:40 AM
So, do I mine this? :D

My Boinc utilization is 97, Boinc processing power 100, Average Boinc credits 255 but on Boinc KH/ps it says sometimes 0, sometimes infinity.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 04, 2013, 05:47:01 AM
Hmm, I actually got 67 coins mined solo on FzgFStAgCXQGRkAPQjyooi7T82XSuRPF1m, then they disappeared tonight.  Was there an update or something?

Make sure your wallet's last block is the same as the block explorer: http://explorer.gridcoin.us/


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 04, 2013, 09:49:28 AM
Although I am looking to buy a GPU. It would be good for the community if someone can post a tutorial on how to CPU mine (preferably on a fresh win 7 installation, because the pyopencl error occurs there).

Anybody who has successfully cpu mined up for it ? (Or perhaps I am asking for too much :P)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 04, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
Is there any way to check how many coins are mined? I can only see how many blocks.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: kuverty on December 04, 2013, 12:29:06 PM
What is the project's status now? What problems are there left to solve?
Also, I saw two addresses on a signature, GRC and GRC2, other started with G and the other with F. What is this?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 04, 2013, 01:02:14 PM
There is only 1 GRC as far as i know.

What is the project's status now? What problems are there left to solve?
Also, I saw two addresses on a signature, GRC and GRC2, other started with G and the other with F. What is this?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 04, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
What is the project's status now? What problems are there left to solve?
Also, I saw two addresses on a signature, GRC and GRC2, other started with G and the other with F. What is this?
Hi,

The Base58 wallet format sometimes generates an "F" prefix, but mostly a "G".  Obviously we like the G since it stands for Gridcoin.  It's a legacy standard.

Problems to solve: 
Safely integrating cpu-miners into the ecosystem.  That turned out to be a bigger project than expected, so its delayed.

The current workload:
Writing the md5-sleep algorithm spec for GPU cards.  Evaluating the risks.  Creating a prototype.

Future:
Adding MySql to Gridcoin, so we can Update transactions, blocks and spent coins in an ansi-92 database and let everyone audit all the transactions.
It would also be helpful for users to query transactions to get exact network statuses.  It would be very beneficial to us when we want to add new features such as long lists of cpuminers or long lists of pool miners so block formats would not break.  If the block hashes are strong, this should not be a risk to show all the data to the world, and then we would be able to grow without fear of breaking the database in the future.  I think it would also be nice to take advantage of oracles utilities to repair the database, instead of worrying about BerkeleyDbs repair options (more support by IT).

Minted coins: You can either multiply 140 * 2.5 * 60 * 24 * dayslive to get an estimate, or you can go to the rpc and do a listunspent and somehow dump into excel or notepad and add it up.
This sounds like a good idea for us to add to the block explorer.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 04, 2013, 05:32:13 PM
Hi Rob,

I think the easier solution would be to put up a tutorial for each step (with screenshots) on how to CPU mine. Then people will have an idea and it will give more clarity on whats going wrong. That's the best solution I can suggest considering the time constraints of the project and project developers.

Thanks


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: pabloangello on December 04, 2013, 05:48:36 PM
Hi Rob,

I think the easier solution would be to put up a tutorial for each step (with screenshots) on how to CPU mine. Then people will have an idea and it will give more clarity on whats going wrong. That's the best solution I can suggest considering the time constraints of the project and project developers.

Thanks
+1 for this. If CPU mining is achievable we (people with Nvidia's) need tutorial how to do it correctly.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: wesleyh on December 04, 2013, 07:16:56 PM
Interested in buying GRC, please PM me your offers.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 04, 2013, 07:21:05 PM
Bitcross is selling some in a thread I saw

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349365.0

Try contacting him for some :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 04, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
All-

Since we are moving through block 26150 early, please ensure you are running the latest version -- "1.1.3.7" available on gridcoin.us in Prod.
This version only forwards the secure blocks to the rest of the network.

If you already upgraded this week try typing "upgrade" from the rpc, and you will auto-upgrade.

Best Regards,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 04, 2013, 08:24:31 PM
Is the girl in the video wearing 3D glasses with the lenses popped out? :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 04, 2013, 09:13:49 PM
Hi everyone!

regarding the CPU mining tutorial, stay tuned I'm working on it and will post tonight. Sorry, I was trying to do it earlier however work overran me.

Regards,
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 04, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
Is everyone's wallet having trouble loading up the new blocks lately or is it just me?

I am updated to the latest version(rpc "upgrade" works fine), even deleted chainstate and blocks..after the blocks have been downloaded again, now the wallet sometimes is a couple blocks behind the network and takes ~15 minutes to update 1-3 blocks.

edit: I don't have any connection troubles myself :)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 04, 2013, 09:28:09 PM
Is everyone's wallet having trouble loading up the new blocks lately or is it just me?

I am updated to the latest version(rpc "upgrade" works fine), even deleted chainstate and blocks..after the blocks have been downloaded again, now the wallet sometimes is a couple blocks behind the network and takes ~15 minutes to update 1-3 blocks.

edit: I don't have any connection troubles myself :)

Andrew.
Yes I confirm.  The difficulty should regauge within 30 minutes and the time span should auto adjust between blocks.  I think the forward/back blocks are miners on old versions trying to submit bad blocks.  They are being rejected by the majority.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 04, 2013, 09:29:03 PM
I had mine staying at 1 hour behind for 15 mintues, and when i restarted the pc it was all up to date. So just reboot and relaunch the client.

Is everyone's wallet having trouble loading up the new blocks lately or is it just me?

I am updated to the latest version(rpc "upgrade" works fine), even deleted chainstate and blocks..after the blocks have been downloaded again, now the wallet sometimes is a couple blocks behind the network and takes ~15 minutes to update 1-3 blocks.

edit: I don't have any connection troubles myself :)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on December 04, 2013, 09:34:10 PM
Not a fan of the new wallet look.  Any way to revert it?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 04, 2013, 09:34:37 PM
Yes I confirm.  The difficulty should regauge within 30 minutes and the time span should auto adjust between blocks.  I think the forward/back blocks are miners on old versions trying to submit bad blocks.  They are being rejected by the majority.

Rob H.


Great, thanks for the info. Thought that might be the problem since ''listminers'' showed ~5 miners on the old one today.

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 04, 2013, 10:50:47 PM
Bug found for users who need to resync completely.  Fixed.  Version 5.0 available now.

Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 04, 2013, 10:52:06 PM
Not a fan of the new wallet look.  Any way to revert it?

Whats the problem?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: rumlazy on December 04, 2013, 11:00:56 PM

Whats the problem?


The black bg/green text reminds me of those old win98 high contrast themes.  On the transactions list you can't even read anything on the black lines except the address.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:36:01 PM

Whats the problem?


The black bg/green text reminds me of those old win98 high contrast themes.  On the transactions list you can't even read anything on the black lines except the address.
Do you have 1137?  We fixed that the day after Thanksgiving, you should see 3 colors on the transaction list now.

Another thing I want to mention to everyone having sync problems and reliability problems:

These problems are almost exactly what we went through when we went live; nothing has changed in this new wallet from yesterday to today except for one more field is being enforced- the boinchash field.

The problem is 30% of the users are still running old versions and sending mined blocks back & forth and the client doesn't handle it very well and "falls off the network" and you have to restart it.  We should see the same reliability we had yesterday after the majority upgrade and stop mining with the old version. 

Rob H.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 05, 2013, 01:45:02 AM
I love this coin.

I have been using BOINC for about a year or so now because I love science and I believe deeply in what BOINC is trying to do to advance humanity ad our knowledge of the sciences.

It makes me happy to see BOINC gaining much needed exposure and it's even nice to have the added incentive of being rewarded for my activity on BOINC.

I did have one small issue with installation, on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit OS it seems I need to run the wallet as Administrator in order for it to read BOINC activity (maybe because I run with higher Windows security settings for my system) but other than that the process has been pretty straight forward.

I feel this coin has a lot of future potential, especially if the BOINC developers and Gridcoin developers were to link up and work together on full integration. The potential could exist for individual projects to reward individual users with extra coins for being especially productive or to give to new members as an incentive to join new projects.

I have joined the "Gridcoin" team for each project I am a part of inside of BOINC (except for the projects that don't have a "Gridcoin" group yet, lol) and I am excited to see where things go from here.

I'm very happy to see someone creating incentives to contribute to advancements in science, health and technology.

Thank you and keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 05, 2013, 02:24:43 AM
Thanks Bob, it's nice to hear praise for all the effort so far especially since it's been all for free.  Hopefully the payoff will be all the heat we save in the future.

Our network is stabilizing now.  Block explorer restarted.  We raised the minimum network protocol level to 1000 in the last version (30 minutes ago), and that requires all nodes to talk to v25 or newer, and seems to be helping.  For the last hour I have not seen any of my 4 machines fall off the net, and that makes me feel a lot better.....

Have a good one.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 05, 2013, 02:43:22 AM
Glad to have you on board TribalBob, we need more people like you. Spread the word far and wide.

I love this coin.

I have been using BOINC for about a year or so now because I love science and I believe deeply in what BOINC is trying to do to advance humanity ad our knowledge of the sciences.

It makes me happy to see BOINC gaining much needed exposure and it's even nice to have the added incentive of being rewarded for my activity on BOINC.

I did have one small issue with installation, on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit OS it seems I need to run the wallet as Administrator in order for it to read BOINC activity (maybe because I run with higher Windows security settings for my system) but other than that the process has been pretty straight forward.

I feel this coin has a lot of future potential, especially if the BOINC developers and Gridcoin developers were to link up and work together on full integration. The potential could exist for individual projects to reward individual users with extra coins for being especially productive or to give to new members as an incentive to join new projects.

I have joined the "Gridcoin" team for each project I am a part of inside of BOINC (except for the projects that don't have a "Gridcoin" group yet, lol) and I am excited to see where things go from here.

I'm very happy to see someone creating incentives to contribute to advancements in science, health and technology.

Thank you and keep up the good work!



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 05, 2013, 05:45:20 AM
Hi everyone!

regarding the CPU mining tutorial, stay tuned I'm working on it and will post tonight. Sorry, I was trying to do it earlier however work overran me.

Regards,
Andrew.

+1 Andrew.

And in the meanwhile my nth (n>6) attempt to get it to work fails .... :(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: glitchboy on December 05, 2013, 04:39:30 PM
Gridcoin has no future. Too easy to cheat and to fake BOINC cpu utilization.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 05, 2013, 04:48:08 PM
why don't you explain how to hack it, better yet make a hack yourself and show us the cheating in realtime.

Gridcoin has no future. Too easy to cheat and to fake BOINC cpu utilization.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 05, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
Gridcoin has no future. Too easy to cheat and to fake BOINC cpu utilization.

Instead of being dismissive you could probably tell us how you would do it and what measures could be introduced to curb it ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 05, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
Gridcoin has no future. Too easy to cheat and to fake BOINC cpu utilization.
I'll give you a 1000GRC if you can figure out a way to hack it without boinc running.

How would you do it?

Rob Halford

Before you answer, remember that no other node is going to forward your block to the network if it doesn't have a valid hash that "checkwork xxxx" returns a 1 on from the RPC.
Type checkwork 26150 and look at the result code.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 05, 2013, 05:19:32 PM
Hi everyone!

So finally here is the promised CPU Mining tutorial. :)

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1922-cpu-mining-tutorialtopic/ (https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1922-cpu-mining-tutorialtopic/)

Hope it helps!
Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 05, 2013, 05:30:20 PM
Gridcoin has no future. Too easy to cheat and to fake BOINC cpu utilization.
I'll give you a 1000GRC if you can figure out a way to hack it without boinc running.

How would you do it?

Rob Halford

Before you answer, remember that no other node is going to forward your block to the network if it doesn't have a valid hash that "checkwork xxxx" returns a 1 on from the RPC.
Type checkwork 26150 and look at the result code.


Scratch that, I'll give you 5000 gridcoins if you can figure out a way to hack the boinchash and create a successful block accepted by the network.  And just to give you a hint, the hash changes on every block, so you can't copy anything from previous hashes.  And yes, what is in the hash is related to boinc, and sampled over 75,000 times per second, and is new information for every GPU block.  Oh and one more thing, the block does contain more than the CPU usage now.  It has 3 inputs from the GVM that are not primitive types.

Rob Halford



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 05, 2013, 05:39:08 PM
Gridcoin has no future. Too easy to cheat and to fake BOINC cpu utilization.

Troll on back to the basement glitchboy..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: glitchboy on December 05, 2013, 06:16:22 PM
Challenge accepted. @Gridcoin, you should create new topic about the 5000 GRC bounty and the challenge. Everyone should participate.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 05, 2013, 06:43:27 PM
Challenge accepted. @Gridcoin, you should create new topic about the 5000 GRC bounty and the challenge. Everyone should participate.

Good luck, you're gonna need it lol


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 05, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
Challenge accepted. @Gridcoin, you should create new topic about the 5000 GRC bounty and the challenge. Everyone should participate.
Done:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358931.new#new



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 05, 2013, 06:59:36 PM
This is actually a great thing for Gridcoin. We can see if there is any loopholes or flaws anywhere. This is a great idea now that I think about it.

Challenge accepted. @Gridcoin, you should create new topic about the 5000 GRC bounty and the challenge. Everyone should participate.
Done:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358931.new#new




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 05, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
Challenge accepted. @Gridcoin, you should create new topic about the 5000 GRC bounty and the challenge. Everyone should participate.
Done:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358931.new#new



Change the title to start with "Challenge:" or "Reward:" so it doesn't sound like a tutorial..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 05, 2013, 07:45:02 PM
Challenge accepted. @Gridcoin, you should create new topic about the 5000 GRC bounty and the challenge. Everyone should participate.
Done:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358931.new#new



Change the title to start with "Challenge:" or "Reward:" so it doesn't sound like a tutorial..
Cool, Done.

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 06, 2013, 12:07:29 AM
Is anyone else having trouble synchronizing with network? Just to be sure I was up to the latest version I uninstalled and updated, and still can't sync.

I'm running (and was running prior to that) 1.1.3.7-g71-prod.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 06, 2013, 12:12:42 AM
Is anyone else having trouble synchronizing with network? Just to be sure I was up to the latest version I uninstalled and updated, and still can't sync.

I'm running (and was running prior to that) 1.1.3.7-g71-prod.

I had the same problem where it was getting stuck at 26149 here's what I did to get it to sync properly: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1331-new-coin-launch-announcement-grc-gridcoin/?p=14372


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Septic on December 06, 2013, 12:34:01 AM
I'll be incredibly cheeky and ask if my existing 4.8 million rosetta credits can have 'back-payment' :)

(I know there's no way to verify, and this coin doesn't work like that, but hey, gotta try!)

Just stopped using BOINC to try and actually earn some money for the contributions, mining litecoins at the moment; but am interested in this coin, because as others have stated - it encourages actually providing something back to the real world at the same time.

Has there been any potential discussion with any BOINC project owners for any additional potential integration or collaboration?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 06, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
I just got a new crash. (There's a regular crash I get that doesn't give any useful errors, but this one seems to have some info of note)

Assertion Failed!
Program: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin\gridcoin-qt.exe
File: src/wallet.cpp
Line: 1847

Expression: vchPubKey.IsValid()


And the non-informative error usually just says "OSS GUI client for Gridcoin has stopped working".


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 06, 2013, 12:56:25 AM
I just got a new crash. (There's a regular crash I get that doesn't give any useful errors, but this one seems to have some info of note)

Assertion Failed!
Program: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin\gridcoin-qt.exe
File: src/wallet.cpp
Line: 1847

Expression: vchPubKey.IsValid()


And the non-informative error usually just says "OSS GUI client for Gridcoin has stopped working".


I had this same problem but each time the wallet was restarted it got further along syncing and eventually I was able to send the coins to a different wallet.
While I haven't used it, I was told the -salvagewallet command will fix that problem.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 06, 2013, 01:38:07 AM
I just got a new crash. (There's a regular crash I get that doesn't give any useful errors, but this one seems to have some info of note)

Assertion Failed!
Program: C:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin\gridcoin-qt.exe
File: src/wallet.cpp
Line: 1847

Expression: vchPubKey.IsValid()


And the non-informative error usually just says "OSS GUI client for Gridcoin has stopped working".


You can also try doing this. Backup your wallet.dat, delete everything in your AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin folder, launch Gridcoin and let it sync completely with a new wallet. Then close out of it, replace the new wallet.dat with your old one, and relaunch and see if that helps. I got a few errors over the several updates where it said it couldn't open my wallet.dat, and just playing around with syncing, replacing the wallet, etc. it eventually booted up. I had a hell of a time yesterday since my two machines running Gridcoin both got them, spent like 45 min fixing it lol.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: cornuto on December 06, 2013, 04:17:29 PM
i mine with GCminer as it was written in your official website
in wallet all seems to be ok but NO MONEY  :(

i can attach a screenshot if necessary
ST:4 SS:0 NB:69 LW:0 GF:0 RF:0
GPU 0: 79,0C   10.66M/10.24Mh/s
A:0 R:24 HW:0 WU:1.0/m I:0
Best Share:31

below some kind of Rejected ye837r38734f7834 Diff 5/1 GPU 0 ecc...

is it good? am i digging or not?

in Miming Console i see:
GPU MH/s: unknown
Accepted: unknown
State: unknown
Invqlid: unknown

the BOINC data is changing from time to time (also the BOINC credits in Projects Console)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 06, 2013, 04:29:27 PM
dude you are not mining scrypt

you have to run cgminer with -scrypt command to mine gridcoin

i mine with GCminer as it was written in your official website
in wallet all seems to be ok but NO MONEY  :(

i can attach a screenshot if necessary
ST:4 SS:0 NB:69 LW:0 GF:0 RF:0
GPU 0: 79,0C   10.66M/10.24Mh/s
A:0 R:24 HW:0 WU:1.0/m I:0
Best Share:31

below some kind of Rejected ye837r38734f7834 Diff 5/1 GPU 0 ecc...

is it good? am i digging or not?

in Miming Console i see:
GPU MH/s: unknown
Accepted: unknown
State: unknown
Invqlid: unknown

the BOINC data is changing from time to time (also the BOINC credits in roject Console)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: cornuto on December 06, 2013, 04:40:00 PM
dude you are not mining scrypt

you have to run cgminer with -scrypt command to mine gridcoin


ok, i created a bat-file (same folder) with this text: "cgminer.exe -script"
and now cgminer.exe (ver.3.5.0 same as in the tutorial) exits/quits/crashes immediately after bat-file start
without parameters bat-file works fine
i have also cgminer.conf-file in the same folder:

{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "127.0.0.1:9332",
"user" : "cornuto",
"pass" : "xxxxx"
}
]
}


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 06, 2013, 04:49:57 PM
I'll be incredibly cheeky and ask if my existing 4.8 million rosetta credits can have 'back-payment' :)

(I know there's no way to verify, and this coin doesn't work like that, but hey, gotta try!)

Just stopped using BOINC to try and actually earn some money for the contributions, mining litecoins at the moment; but am interested in this coin, because as others have stated - it encourages actually providing something back to the real world at the same time.

Has there been any potential discussion with any BOINC project owners for any additional potential integration or collaboration?
Hi Septic, Good questions:

1) On back credits, LOL, obviously you don't lose them and you keep them whether you join Team Gridcoin or not (the cpu mining group that is Off), or if you decide to leave later, you own your account & credits.
  As far as back compensation, we are slowly moving towards avg_daily_credits+utilization for compensation, therefore, it will end up being more of a daily activity for you to keep the daily averages high; so lookback  daily credits will drop off over 31 days  anyway.
2) Discussion with Berkeley:  I am definitely interested in speaking to their IT, and individual project IT departments for official integration.  I view this as something that should be done when we are stable and mature and closer to being defect free.  Things are happening behind the scenes, relatively volatile things, such as consolidating the Linux & mac clients requires a few changes to the code, and establishing a solid payment system, and when things cool down and become stable, I will definitely pursue integration talks with IT.  Its more of an issue where you have to have your ducks in a row before wasting their time with nonsense.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 06, 2013, 04:52:17 PM
dude you are not mining scrypt

you have to run cgminer with -scrypt command to mine gridcoin


ok, i created a bat-file (same folder) with this text: "cgminer.exe -script"
and now cgminer.exe (ver.3.5.0 same as in the tutorial) exits/quits/crashes immediately after bat-file start
without parameters bat-file works fine
i have also cgminer.conf-file in the same folder:

{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "127.0.0.1:9332",
"user" : "cornuto",
"pass" : "xxxxx"
}
]
}
Try downgrading to cgminer 3.1.0.  3.5 does not work for me either.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 06, 2013, 05:16:38 PM
scrypt NOT script

dude you are not mining scrypt

you have to run cgminer with -scrypt command to mine gridcoin


ok, i created a bat-file (same folder) with this text: "cgminer.exe -script"
and now cgminer.exe (ver.3.5.0 same as in the tutorial) exits/quits/crashes immediately after bat-file start
without parameters bat-file works fine
i have also cgminer.conf-file in the same folder:

{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "127.0.0.1:9332",
"user" : "cornuto",
"pass" : "xxxxx"
}
]
}


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: cornuto on December 06, 2013, 06:10:58 PM
scrypt NOT script


yes i see the Y/I-error
but... the same sharp exit
with cgminer 3.5.0 (-scrypt) - exiting
with cgminer 3.1.0 (-scrypt) - exiting
with cgminer 3.8.4 w/o bat.-file - "no devices detected"
or maybe i dig but dig too slowly
in fact some numbers are changing in cgminer 3.5.0/3.1.0 window

just no money & no info in mining console about the digger - unknown unknown....


win 7 x64 home edition

netbook Samsung with AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics, 1650 MHz, cores: 2

P.S. there is cgminer-nogpu.exe in the cgminer folder - may be i d better start this


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 06, 2013, 07:39:17 PM
get guiminer it is much easier to operate.

scrypt NOT script


yes i see the Y/I-error
but... the same sharp exit
with cgminer 3.5.0 (-scrypt) - exiting
with cgminer 3.1.0 (-scrypt) - exiting
with cgminer 3.8.4 w/o bat.-file - "no devices detected"
or maybe i dig but dig too slowly
in fact some numbers are changing in cgminer 3.5.0/3.1.0 window

just no money & no info in mining console about the digger - unknown unknown....


win 7 x64 home edition

netbook Samsung with AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics, 1650 MHz, cores: 2

P.S. there is cgminer-nogpu.exe in the cgminer folder - may be i d better start this


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 06, 2013, 08:01:55 PM
Tip for anyone who might find this helpful:
 
One of my machines was stuck on Block-10, and restarts didn't help, and I found if you delete the "Chainstate" folder and restart everything is synced up and did not have to re-sync all the prior blocks. 
 
Rob H.
 
Apparently something is being appended to the chainstate file that the program cant deal with - obviously the real data is on the network since it ultimately recovers.  Has to be related to the current forks since this was not a problem before the hard fork upgrade.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Dalekmun2010 on December 06, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
Hi, I'm hoping someone could help me out here:
I'm running BOINC on my server, so I can only install BOINC 5.10.45.
Boink utilization always displays as 0.
In the mining instructions PDF it says in step 9
"9. Launch Gridcoin-qt. Click on the mining console menu. Click register mining
module. This will register the boinc.dll with the OS, that will allow communication
between boinc, cgminer and gridcoin-qt. Note: If you do not register the DLL, boinc
utilization will always show as zero. "
I didn't have to do this on a device running the latest BOINC, and I can't even see the "register mining
module" option anywhere.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
http://sdrv.ms/1bm6JX5


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 06, 2013, 11:42:27 PM
dude you are not mining scrypt

you have to run cgminer with -scrypt command to mine gridcoin


ok, i created a bat-file (same folder) with this text: "cgminer.exe -script"
and now cgminer.exe (ver.3.5.0 same as in the tutorial) exits/quits/crashes immediately after bat-file start
without parameters bat-file works fine
i have also cgminer.conf-file in the same folder:

{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "127.0.0.1:9332",
"user" : "cornuto",
"pass" : "xxxxx"
}
]
}


Hello,

Try re-launching with "cgminer.exe --scrypt" instead of "cgminer.exe -scrypt".

Need to have that extra "-".


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: pabloangello on December 06, 2013, 11:59:05 PM
I assume there is no mining calculator yet.

So what can I achieve with mine 4 cores/8 threads i7 ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 07, 2013, 12:09:50 AM
run the gridcoin client as administrator. also you might have to specify the boinc install path and boinc data path in gridcoin.conf

Hi, I'm hoping someone could help me out here:
I'm running BOINC on my server, so I can only install BOINC 5.10.45.
Boink utilization always displays as 0.
In the mining instructions PDF it says in step 9
"9. Launch Gridcoin-qt. Click on the mining console menu. Click register mining
module. This will register the boinc.dll with the OS, that will allow communication
between boinc, cgminer and gridcoin-qt. Note: If you do not register the DLL, boinc
utilization will always show as zero. "
I didn't have to do this on a device running the latest BOINC, and I can't even see the "register mining
module" option anywhere.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
http://sdrv.ms/1bm6JX5


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 07, 2013, 12:22:16 AM
Hi, I'm hoping someone could help me out here:
I'm running BOINC on my server, so I can only install BOINC 5.10.45.
Boink utilization always displays as 0.
In the mining instructions PDF it says in step 9
"9. Launch Gridcoin-qt. Click on the mining console menu. Click register mining
module. This will register the boinc.dll with the OS, that will allow communication
between boinc, cgminer and gridcoin-qt. Note: If you do not register the DLL, boinc
utilization will always show as zero. "
I didn't have to do this on a device running the latest BOINC, and I can't even see the "register mining
module" option anywhere.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
http://sdrv.ms/1bm6JX5
Hi Dale,

The doc is stale-- you don't have to register either of the DLLs if you use the MSI-prod version.  You only need to do that if you download the files from the zip and want to manually install the wallet.

Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 07, 2013, 12:23:15 AM
I assume there is no mining calculator yet.

So what can I achieve with mine 4 cores/8 threads i7 ?
Difficulty is @ 1.

Not on an exchange yet.

Thanks,
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: pabloangello on December 07, 2013, 12:30:32 AM
I assume there is no mining calculator yet.

So what can I achieve with mine 4 cores/8 threads i7 ?
Difficulty is @ 1.

Not on an exchange yet.

Thanks,
Grid


So no cpu mining yet? I didn't understand what exactly you mean.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Dalekmun2010 on December 07, 2013, 01:01:30 AM
Looks like running as admin worked; Thank you so much!

run the gridcoin client as administrator. also you might have to specify the boinc install path and boinc data path in gridcoin.conf

Hi, I'm hoping someone could help me out here:
I'm running BOINC on my server, so I can only install BOINC 5.10.45.
Boink utilization always displays as 0.
In the mining instructions PDF it says in step 9
"9. Launch Gridcoin-qt. Click on the mining console menu. Click register mining
module. This will register the boinc.dll with the OS, that will allow communication
between boinc, cgminer and gridcoin-qt. Note: If you do not register the DLL, boinc
utilization will always show as zero. "
I didn't have to do this on a device running the latest BOINC, and I can't even see the "register mining
module" option anywhere.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
http://sdrv.ms/1bm6JX5


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 07, 2013, 01:22:30 AM
Is anyone else having trouble with their client occasionally stalling out...?

I woke up today to find my miner had been hashing away on the same block for more than 4 hours because one of my clients had stalled and was pretty far behind in the actual block count even though the client said it was synced.

What's really weird is that my other client (I have two pc's and one runs cgminer on load balance between the two clients) was still perfectly synced but the miner was not receiving new block notifications from the synced client either.

Anyone else experiencing anything similar...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 07, 2013, 03:53:06 AM
I'm finding an issue where it's doing the work, but not updating the earned coins in the UI.
If I restart I will be N hours behind, where N is how many hours since the last restart. If it syncs successfully then I get some coins. But since this new issue popped up it's been way fewer coins. Like half a coin for 4 hours work, instead of 30 minutes.

I've had it running constantly except for the restarts and syncs so I should have a decent rate based on the floating level of earnings.

And I've reinstalled multiple times, restored my wallet from a backup, etc.

I can provide my debug log if it helps. I don't mind being a beta tester at all.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 07, 2013, 03:59:40 AM
If anyone is having trouble with syncing or stalling after the latest update do this:

1. Close your Gridcoin client
2. Delete everything in your AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin folder EXCEPT the gridcoin.conf, wallet.dat, and if you use it, the guiminer folder
3. Make sure you have the latest client (if you open the Mining Console, you should see Version: 29, if not install the latest .MSI from the website
4. Start the client and it should completely resync


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 07, 2013, 04:02:22 AM
I'm finding an issue where it's doing the work, but not updating the earned coins in the UI.
If I restart I will be N hours behind, where N is how many hours since the last restart. If it syncs successfully then I get some coins. But since this new issue popped up it's been way fewer coins. Like half a coin for 4 hours work, instead of 30 minutes.

I've had it running constantly except for the restarts and syncs so I should have a decent rate based on the floating level of earnings.

And I've reinstalled multiple times, restored my wallet from a backup, etc.

I can provide my debug log if it helps. I don't mind being a beta tester at all.


I have been experiencing this as well, usually after I restart it gets stuck at N hours behind and won't sync any further but that is easily fixed by launching with "-rescan".

But like you I am also experiencing where I come back to see 3 or 4 accepted blocks and then the sync gets stuck at a place and I have to restart which is when I get stuck at N hours behind and the coins are no longer in my wallet when I get synced back onto the correct blockchain.

I think what is happening is that those blocks are being orphaned or perhaps we are ending up on a forked chain and then we somehow get stuck when the client is trying to find it's way back onto the correct chain.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 07, 2013, 04:03:48 AM
If anyone is having trouble with syncing or stalling after the latest update do this:

1. Close your Gridcoin client
2. Delete everything in your AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin folder EXCEPT the gridcoin.conf, wallet.dat, and if you use it, the guiminer folder
3. Make sure you have the latest client (if you open the Mining Console, you should see Version: 29, if not install the latest .MSI from the website
4. Start the client and it should completely resync

I have done clean re-installs of the latest client (version 29) multiple times and I am still having sync issues at times. See my post above as I believe I know the reason for this.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 07, 2013, 04:55:53 AM
There seems to be something that happened in the chain starting around 21 hours ago.

In the previous two days I made 52 coins from my CPU+nvidia card.

Today I seem to have made 3 or 4 coins, but can't be sure as the sync is once again choking at 21 hours behind.

edit: typo fixed.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 07, 2013, 05:02:46 AM
It took about seven minutes to process the chain at the 21 hour mark, then it continued again. It has now stalled at the 8 hour mark.

Just providing that in case it points to something helpful :)
 
edit: Turned out at 8 hours it hit wallet corruption, but resumed again on a restart.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aleistermarley on December 07, 2013, 09:31:15 AM
Is anyone else having trouble with their client occasionally stalling out...?

I woke up today to find my miner had been hashing away on the same block for more than 4 hours because one of my clients had stalled and was pretty far behind in the actual block count even though the client said it was synced.

What's really weird is that my other client (I have two pc's and one runs cgminer on load balance between the two clients) was still perfectly synced but the miner was not receiving new block notifications from the synced client either.

Anyone else experiencing anything similar...?

I seem to have the same issue.

Most of the times i end up with a corrupted wallet.dat too :(
-rescan option does not help me.
The only solution for me is to delete the complete blockchain database and restore my wallet from backup.

Last time i deleted the peers.dat too - but then it refused to make more than only 1 (one) connection to the network  ???
So i better kept my old peers.dat to get back to the normal 8 connections.

I have the latest client installed and doing cpu and gpu mining.

greetings


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 07, 2013, 02:15:34 PM
It has something to do with the client collecting orphan blocks from old versions that are still running.  Looking at the debug file about 100 orphan blocks keep coming back.  Im running 4 machines and it affects one of them especially (resyncing once per day).  We could increment the minimum protocol version for everyone but that would require a global upgrade.  Any hardened cryptologists out there that would like to volunteer to help us clear out orphan blocks or give us advice?

In the mean time the only known solution is to close the wallet and delete the chainstate/database folders and restart.  I do not have to replace my wallet file when I do this.

I will try to devote some time to looking into this, but for the time being I've been busy creating a prototype for the scrypt-sleep algo.

Thanks,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 07, 2013, 05:57:52 PM
We should throw up a challenge on Slashdot for people to help :)

Though it would come with dickheads too :/


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 07, 2013, 05:59:32 PM
I say whoever has not updated by now, cut them out. Do a global upgrade and lets end these synching problems.

It has something to do with the client collecting orphan blocks from old versions that are still running.  Looking at the debug file about 100 orphan blocks keep coming back.  Im running 4 machines and it affects one of them especially (resyncing once per day).  We could increment the minimum protocol version for everyone but that would require a global upgrade.  Any hardened cryptologists out there that would like to volunteer to help us clear out orphan blocks or give us advice?

In the mean time the only known solution is to close the wallet and delete the chainstate/database folders and restart.  I do not have to replace my wallet file when I do this.

I will try to devote some time to looking into this, but for the time being I've been busy creating a prototype for the scrypt-sleep algo.

Thanks,
Rob Halford



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 07, 2013, 06:11:53 PM
I say whoever has not updated by now, cut them out. Do a global upgrade and lets end these synching problems.

It has something to do with the client collecting orphan blocks from old versions that are still running.  Looking at the debug file about 100 orphan blocks keep coming back.  Im running 4 machines and it affects one of them especially (resyncing once per day).  We could increment the minimum protocol version for everyone but that would require a global upgrade.  Any hardened cryptologists out there that would like to volunteer to help us clear out orphan blocks or give us advice?

In the mean time the only known solution is to close the wallet and delete the chainstate/database folders and restart.  I do not have to replace my wallet file when I do this.

I will try to devote some time to looking into this, but for the time being I've been busy creating a prototype for the scrypt-sleep algo.

Thanks,
Rob Halford


I agree, get things running smooth and solid before working further on the prototypical algo..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 07, 2013, 09:23:15 PM
Seeing as cryptsy is in some difficulty right now I thought I would start another petition to have Gridcoin added to crypto-trade.com I have traded there and it seems like a decent exchange so far.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361562.0

Everyone make your vote count!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 07, 2013, 09:37:53 PM
Thats cool, I'll do a global upgrade on a certain near block, but first Id like to make sure the problem happens one more time and give everyone a little time to see this message.
Not positive if Ill be around the computer tonight and Id like to be around.

Has it happened today?

I think we can do a global upgrade either around 6pm tonight or tomorrow morning if it hasn't gone away.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 07, 2013, 09:51:51 PM
GRC has no market yet. why so many rubbish coins at cryptsy while not accepting GRC. that is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 07, 2013, 09:52:14 PM
Thats cool, I'll do a global upgrade on a certain near block, but first Id like to make sure the problem happens one more time and give everyone a little time to see this message.
Not positive if Ill be around the computer tonight and Id like to be around.

Has it happened today?

I think we can do a global upgrade either around 6pm tonight or tomorrow morning if it hasn't gone away.

Rob H.

I can confirm that I just had the problem on one of my clients about an hour ago. Launching with "-rescan" fixes the issue temporarily (at least for me anyway) but the problem is definitely recurring.

For those having trouble with sync issues on "stalled" wallets, before deleting the stuff in your roaming folder, try the following from a command prompt (windows users):

1) cd c:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin
2) gridcoin-qt.exe -rescan

This is consistently fixing my sync/stalled client issues and is essentially the same as deleting the files in your roaming folder as it forces the client to rescan the block chain.

But I still opt for the global upgrade, better to do it now than to continue letting new users jump on a faulty client...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 07, 2013, 11:15:04 PM
Yea I had it happen to all my machines the night before last (so I had to rescan yesterday morning) and it they're all good still except for one, which stalled 2 hours ago. So it's not happening as bad, but there are still instances it occurs.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 07, 2013, 11:26:42 PM
vote here, now only 1 vote by me.

Question:    POLL: Which Alt Coin will see the most growth in 2014?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=359521.0


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 07, 2013, 11:48:47 PM
Thats cool, I'll do a global upgrade on a certain near block, but first Id like to make sure the problem happens one more time and give everyone a little time to see this message.
Not positive if Ill be around the computer tonight and Id like to be around.

Has it happened today?

I think we can do a global upgrade either around 6pm tonight or tomorrow morning if it hasn't gone away.

Rob H.


how much time do you think is needed to launch the scrypt-sleep scheme into GRC mining?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 08, 2013, 01:02:16 AM
All,

I just released the global update (v1139) that forces the protocol upgrade.

Please try to type "upgrade", otherwise you can download the prod-msi, do the full reinstall, and then execute it again and choose "Repair".

Thanks,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 08, 2013, 01:18:08 AM
This is just for people running the old version right.

All,

I just released the global update (v1139) that forces the protocol upgrade.

Please try to type "upgrade", otherwise you can download the prod-msi, do the full reinstall, and then execute it again and choose "Repair".

Thanks,
Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 08, 2013, 01:25:10 AM
Yes if you have v25 (mining console or higher), you can type upgrade, but everyone has to upgrade, the old version (1138 and down) will become obsolete.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 08, 2013, 01:27:30 AM
What's the latest version? I have 29. Running upgrade in both regular and admin mode dies on me.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 08, 2013, 01:33:34 AM
What's the latest version? I have 29. Running upgrade in both regular and admin mode dies on me.
I dont think that changed, but the wallet has to be "1.1.3.9" now or your network will not work.  If you dont have that in the debug window, manually upgrade with the MSI-prod.

Looks like the highest block is 27864 right now.

3 of my 4 are now working, but my 4th was actually hosed already, crossing my fingers all....



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 01:35:34 AM
Ok, I tried "upgrade" on both of my clients (which were both already using version 29).

The upgrades said that they completed successfully but when the clients restarted each client was still showing a different hash number for the current block. Attempting a clean re-install from the latest MSI to see if that fixes the issue.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 08, 2013, 01:38:02 AM
1.1.3.9-g71-prod here now :) Yay!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 08, 2013, 01:40:45 AM
First time using upgrade, but it says "Upgrade Failed. An exception occurred during a WebClient request."


Nevermind, I fixed it by changing the security settings on the \Program Files(x86)\Gridcoin folder


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 08, 2013, 01:41:26 AM
Ok, I tried "upgrade" on both of my clients (which were both already using version 29).

The upgrades said that they completed successfully but when the clients restarted each client was still showing a different hash number for the current block. Attempting a clean re-install from the latest MSI to see if that fixes the issue.
Cool--
I think it "might" have recovered Bob, because it takes it a long time to sort out peers as misbehaving (thats what it considers an obsolete peer) but then who knows.  I guess we'll find out after we have 24 hours of stability.

@Andrew, I havent read the doc yet, but thanks for putting it together.  I'll be reading it.

Rob H.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 08, 2013, 01:43:05 AM
What is the current block?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 08, 2013, 01:54:04 AM
if you are not running the gridcoin-qt as Administrator, then it will crash when you try to upgrade.

First time using upgrade, but it says "Upgrade Failed. An exception occurred during a WebClient request."


Nevermind, I fixed it by changing the security settings on the \Program Files(x86)\Gridcoin folder


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 08, 2013, 01:56:26 AM
First time using upgrade, but it says "Upgrade Failed. An exception occurred during a WebClient request."


Nevermind, I fixed it by changing the security settings on the \Program Files(x86)\Gridcoin folder
Oh ok, I was going to ask to see if it occurs every time, or how I can reproduce.  Im glad you figured that part out, because one other user had that problem!

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 08, 2013, 01:57:19 AM
Yea that makes sense then as changing the security settings technically gave it admin rights to changes when ran.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 08, 2013, 01:59:06 AM
Oh, and for you guys on Cryptocoin talk, vote on which abbreviation you think we should use/keep while we aren't on an exchange yet

XGR or GRC (https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/2010-xgr-vs-grc/)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 02:02:30 AM
Ok, I have one client fully updated and running fine, but when I try to re-install the other from the latest MSI using my old wallet.dat I am receiving:



Code:
System Error: CDB() : Can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 08, 2013, 02:10:59 AM
do -salvagewallet command

Ok, I have one client fully updated and running fine, but when I try to re-install the other from the latest MSI using my old wallet.dat I am receiving:



Code:
System Error: CDB() : Can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 02:29:11 AM
do -salvagewallet command

Ok, I have one client fully updated and running fine, but when I try to re-install the other from the latest MSI using my old wallet.dat I am receiving:



Code:
System Error: CDB() : Can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974

That seems to have done the trick, thanks m8! Forgot about the "-salvagewallet" flag (never had to use it).


So, now both clients are running, both clients are the latest version (version 30) both say they are synced, but they are on completely different blockchains.

One block chain is currently 27,865 blocks long with a difficulty of 1.17921727 and the other is on a blockchain that is 27,881 blocks long with a difficulty of 1.44197764.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 08, 2013, 02:36:28 AM
do -salvagewallet command

Ok, I have one client fully updated and running fine, but when I try to re-install the other from the latest MSI using my old wallet.dat I am receiving:



Code:
System Error: CDB() : Can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974

That seems to have done the trick, thanks m8! Forgot about the "-salvagewallet" flag (never had to use it).


So, now both clients are running, both clients are the latest version (version 30) both say they are synced, but they are on completely different blockchains.

One block chain is currently 27,865 blocks long with a difficulty of 1.17921727 and the other is on a blockchain that is 27,881 blocks long with a difficulty of 1.44197764.


I was about to post the same thing. I have one chain at 27,865 and two at 27,881 and neither have them have moved since updating. Is the chain playing catchup or something before it starts moving again?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 02:42:30 AM
The stall right now is because the new client requires people to be upgraded to the latest version so anyone who has not yet seen this thread is pretty much still mining on an out of date blockchain, there are probably only a handful of us at the moment who are on the latest version and the difficulty is still set from the old chain so the chain thinks there is a whole network f miners when there is actually only a handful of us.

It will start moving again either when we reach the next re-target or when the other miners catch up with their upgrades.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 02:46:12 AM
Question for the dev:

Could the fact that I have multiple projects running in BOINC that aren't in the project list be somehow placing me on a separate blockchain...?

I have been using BOINC for a while now and I am signed up to almost every project...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 03:24:29 AM
In main.cpp I see where nBestChain is set, but I don't see any definition really as to HOW nBestChain is set. I looked through main.cpp, alert.h, alert.cpp, protocol.cpp and protocol.h, didn't see anything in those places, maybe there was some where I missed...?

Is there anywhere in the code that tells it to look for the longest blockchain (blockchain with the most confirmations for all included transactions) or how exactly does the client determine how nBestChain is defined...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 08, 2013, 04:05:10 AM
In main.cpp I see where nBestChain is set, but I don't see any definition really as to HOW nBestChain is set. I looked through main.cpp, alert.h, alert.cpp, protocol.cpp and protocol.h, didn't see anything in those places, maybe there was some where I missed...?

Is there anywhere in the code that tells it to look for the longest blockchain (blockchain with the most confirmations for all included transactions) or how exactly does the client determine how nBestChain is defined...?
It has not been changed from litecoin's code.

The longest chain ends up being chosen.

Main.cpp 1887 (Disconnect shorter branch)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 04:21:05 AM
In main.cpp I see where nBestChain is set, but I don't see any definition really as to HOW nBestChain is set. I looked through main.cpp, alert.h, alert.cpp, protocol.cpp and protocol.h, didn't see anything in those places, maybe there was some where I missed...?

Is there anywhere in the code that tells it to look for the longest blockchain (blockchain with the most confirmations for all included transactions) or how exactly does the client determine how nBestChain is defined...?
It has not been changed from litecoin's code.

The longest chain ends up being chosen.

Main.cpp 1887 (Disconnect shorter branch)


Ah ok, I see it now. Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 08, 2013, 04:50:19 AM
I feel better about this upgrade; I think we have to wait for the supermajority rule to kick in.  Now that we are almost over 51% upgraded, Im pretty sure its about to kick in, because my bad node is now counting backwards and blocks are being taken off the chain; that didnt happen yesterday.....  I think the wallet corruption was due to constant closing while the client had a lock on the file.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 05:27:48 AM
Ok,

So I just renamed both of my data directories for both of my clients to "Gridcoin OLD". I re-launched the application and let it build new directories on both machines.

Both wallets started up and synced to the same block chain.

I re-started Gridcoin and used "-datadir=Gridcoin OLD" to get back into my old wallets and sent the coins from those wallets to my new primary address.

I have received the coins from both wallets and both machines are currently on the same blockchain. Now just need to see if my machines stay on the same blockchain this time, lol...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 06:15:28 AM
Alright, my wallet with all of my coins in it has now stalled out...

The other wallet which has not been tainted with coins from any of the old chains seems to be running fine so I guess I will just wipe the corrupted wallet with my earnings from the past few days and start anew back at a completely zero balance, lol...

Oh well, for SCIENCE!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 08, 2013, 06:40:47 AM
Alright, my wallet with all of my coins in it has now stalled out...

The other wallet which has not been tainted with coins from any of the old chains seems to be running fine so I guess I will just wipe the corrupted wallet with my earnings from the past few days and start anew back at a completely zero balance, lol...

Oh well, for SCIENCE!


I also have a wallet in old chain, have not tried to fix it yet  :-[


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 06:49:17 AM
Alright, my wallet with all of my coins in it has now stalled out...

The other wallet which has not been tainted with coins from any of the old chains seems to be running fine so I guess I will just wipe the corrupted wallet with my earnings from the past few days and start anew back at a completely zero balance, lol...

Oh well, for SCIENCE!


I also have a wallet in old chain, have not tried to fix it yet  :-[


I wish you luck!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 06:57:12 AM
Just a note, the fresh install of a brand new wallet just stalled out again on my laptop. I re-launched with re-scan and it's back on track, hopefully it sticks.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 08, 2013, 07:00:23 AM
I deleted everything, except wallet.dat and gridcoin.conf in the appdata, everything is ok. :)
Are you running v1.1.3.9-g71-prod ? I was already using this version in wrong chain.  
  


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 08, 2013, 07:03:33 AM
Just a note, the fresh install of a brand new wallet just stalled out again on my laptop. I re-launched with re-scan and it's back on track, hopefully it sticks.

Try to delete the peers.dat, blockchain and add this node to gridcoin.conf
addnode=98.114.181.178


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 07:06:54 AM
I deleted everything, except wallet.dat and gridcoin.conf in the appdata, everything is ok. :)
Are you running v1.1.3.9-g71-prod ? I was already using this version in wrong chain.  
  

Correct, that is the version I am using. Version 30 in the mining console, Gridcoin 5.4 in Programs list.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 08, 2013, 07:08:26 AM
You can also add working peers:


"addr" : "76.187.184.27:9778",

"addr" : "66.187.94.194:9778",

"addr" : "76.74.177.224:9778",

"addr" : "84.125.196.167:9778",

"addr" : "71.233.139.62:9778",

"addr" : "72.92.48.105:9778",



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 07:15:57 AM
Just a note, the fresh install of a brand new wallet just stalled out again on my laptop. I re-launched with re-scan and it's back on track, hopefully it sticks.

Try to delete the peers.dat, blockchain and add this node to gridcoin.conf
addnode=98.114.181.178

You can also add working peers:


"addr" : "76.187.184.27:9778",

"addr" : "66.187.94.194:9778",

"addr" : "76.74.177.224:9778",

"addr" : "84.125.196.167:9778",

"addr" : "71.233.139.62:9778",

"addr" : "72.92.48.105:9778",

Alright, I have deleted everything except for my wallet and conf files and have added these nodes, I launched with my old wallet, I will let you know how it turns out.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 07:24:12 AM
Ok, I appear to be properly synced for the moment. That may have done the trick. I hope it does because I'd really like to be able to keep my coins, lol...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 08, 2013, 07:56:28 AM
Yea all mine have been good after getting them all caught up to the correct block (deleting the chain and blocks and resyncing). Hopefully in the morning they'll still be on track :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
My client running the wallet with the coins from the old blockchain has stalled out again. It seems that particular set of coins is somehow corrupted. I'm just going to go back to the fresh wallet. I'll hold onto the glitchy wallet for now in case a future update fixes the problem, but for now I'm just going to see how the fresh wallets go.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 09:56:38 AM
Alright, the new wallet has stalled out too, but the problem seems to only be with the wallet on my laptop now. My other machine seems to be running fine, I'm just going to leave that one running for now and I'll mess with the client on my laptop later as it is late and I am getting tired...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 08, 2013, 03:27:05 PM
Same thing happened, one stalled and got left behind, but everything else ran smoothly. So far it seems to be running a lot better though


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 08, 2013, 07:21:10 PM
Mine doesn't appear to be doing anything in the wallet. Though my miner is now functioning after a night of 500 Internal Server Errors.

And I have 217 immature gridcoins waiting on me now. I don't recognize the addresses (in blue text) they come from, so I have no idea if it was a gift or the last few days of mining catching up.

Now to try and sync up to the network again.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 08, 2013, 07:40:19 PM
Same thing happened, one stalled and got left behind, but everything else ran smoothly. So far it seems to be running a lot better though

Same here one was stalled a few blocks behind when I just checked, had to -reindex the chain to sync it again.
Maybe it will get better as more people finally get on the latest client version.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 08:06:04 PM
Alright, I believe I have tracked the source of the problem (at least for me anyway).

As mentioned earlier I am running two clients on two different machines.

Machine "A" is my desktop and has been running fine all night.

Machine "B" is my laptop and it is continuously having problems.

Machine "A" runs the client and also runs cgminer set to "-loadbalance" bewteen Machine "A" and Machine "B".

Machine "B" runs the client and Pooler's CPUMiner.

It seems that every time cgminer on Machine "B" finds a block on Machine "A", Machine "A" is credited with a full reward as if it had come through the loopback address (which it did not). The transaction then usually gains one or two confirmations and then the client stops updating which is when I am forced to re-launch the app (usually having to launch with "-rescan" or "-salvagewallet" to get things running.

Once I am up and have had some coffee I will start looking through the source and see if I can find the problem in the loopback address check.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 08, 2013, 08:19:48 PM
I'm stalled at block 28146. Anyone else?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 08:23:34 PM
I'm stalled at block 28146. Anyone else?

The machine that is stalled, are you mining on that computer and also mining on it from another computer at the same time?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Chris180Z on December 08, 2013, 09:27:06 PM
Can any of you help me in understanding this?

I used to fold@home for cancer research until crypto-currencies came along, and I guess I saw an opportunity to make a bit of money for once. In a way I do feel a little guilty for giving up a good cause and i've always felt if the two could ever be combined it would be revolutionary. Does this coin offer that? If so, then surely is it not decentralised?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 08, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
Nope. It's my only machine. I have a habit of giving my computers away when I upgrade. :)

I'm stalled at block 28146. Anyone else?

The machine that is stalled, are you mining on that computer and also mining on it from another computer at the same time?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 09:40:38 PM
Can any of you help me in understanding this?

I used to fold@home for cancer research until crypto-currencies came along, and I guess I saw an opportunity to make a bit of money for once. In a way I do feel a little guilty for giving up a good cause and i've always felt if the two could ever be combined it would be revolutionary. Does this coin offer that? If so, then surely is it not decentralised?

Hello,

This coin rewards you based on the amount of processing you apply towards a program called BOINC.

BOINC is a platform for volunteer grid computing which uses your spare processing cycles to advance scientific studies.

It is very much like what you have been doing, except that when you use BOINC with Gridcoin you are eligible for increased GRC block rewards based on the amount of processing power being applied to the BOINC application.

It is very much decentralized as no person/entity directly regulates/controls the funds flowing through the GRC network.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 09:42:02 PM
Nope. It's my only machine. I have a habit of giving my computers away when I upgrade. :)

I'm stalled at block 28146. Anyone else?

The machine that is stalled, are you mining on that computer and also mining on it from another computer at the same time?

Yeah, it seems my theory has been completely blown out of the water because my other machine just stalled out now for apparently no reason, lol


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 08, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
All mine have been working great the whole day thankfully. Is there a compiled list of working nodes? I can start one up if there isn't.

As of 10:49 PM Bitcointalk time, I'm at block 28271

Quote
addnode=71.162.218.111


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 08, 2013, 11:10:42 PM
All mine have been working great the whole day thankfully. Is there a compiled list of working nodes? I can start one up if there isn't.

As of 10:49 PM Bitcointalk time, I'm at block 28271

Quote
addnode=71.162.218.111

I am using:

Code:
addnode=98.114.181.178
addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 09, 2013, 12:22:23 AM
Looks like the database ate my post. Still having sync issues with the addnodes.
Would solo mining fix this?

Also, would anyone care to guess the value of the coins? I wouldn't mind buying $25 worth from someone. Preferably from Canada since I can use an email bank transfer and the recipient would know it can't have a chargeback like paypal.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 09, 2013, 12:30:27 AM
What's the syntax for commenting out lines in the .conf file?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 09, 2013, 12:39:01 AM
Would solo mining fix this?

As far as I know solo mining is the ONLY mining option... Where else are you mining at...?

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Also, would anyone care to guess the value of the coins? I wouldn't mind buying $25 worth from someone. Preferably from Canada since I can use an email bank transfer and the recipient would know it can't have a chargeback like paypal.

There's only been a few GRC trades that I am aware of:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327827.0 - Offers of 0.001 to 0.002 BTC per 1,000 GRC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347908.0 - Apparent sales of 10,000 GRC per 1 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349365.0 - Sale of 500 GRC for 50 mBTC


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 09, 2013, 12:40:34 AM
What's the syntax for commenting out lines in the .conf file?

Code:
#This is a comment in the conf file


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 09, 2013, 01:12:41 AM
When you use poolmining=true you become part of the internal pool.

Would solo mining fix this?

As far as I know solo mining is the ONLY mining option... Where else are you mining at...?

Quote
Also, would anyone care to guess the value of the coins? I wouldn't mind buying $25 worth from someone. Preferably from Canada since I can use an email bank transfer and the recipient would know it can't have a chargeback like paypal.

There's only been a few GRC trades that I am aware of:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327827.0 - Offers of 0.001 to 0.002 BTC per 1,000 GRC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347908.0 - Apparent sales of 10,000 GRC per 1 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349365.0 - Sale of 500 GRC for 50 mBTC


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 09, 2013, 01:24:13 AM
When you use poolmining=true you become part of the internal pool.

Oh wow, I totally misunderstood the use of "poolmining=" I thought that "poolmining=true" enabled other users to mine on your client using their own wallet addresses with a pooled payout similar to p2pool.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 09, 2013, 01:31:21 AM
When you use poolmining=true you become part of the internal pool.

Would solo mining fix this?

As far as I know solo mining is the ONLY mining option... Where else are you mining at...?

Quote
Also, would anyone care to guess the value of the coins? I wouldn't mind buying $25 worth from someone. Preferably from Canada since I can use an email bank transfer and the recipient would know it can't have a chargeback like paypal.

There's only been a few GRC trades that I am aware of:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327827.0 - Offers of 0.001 to 0.002 BTC per 1,000 GRC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347908.0 - Apparent sales of 10,000 GRC per 1 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349365.0 - Sale of 500 GRC for 50 mBTC

I was under the impression that this is designed for CPU only miners correct?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 09, 2013, 01:32:03 AM
I might still be off slightly, but if you use the listcpuminers you get to see other people in the internal pool. Usually there's just a few of them.
From what I understand that's as close as we have to a third party pool so far :)

When you use poolmining=true you become part of the internal pool.

Oh wow, I totally misunderstood the use of "poolmining=" I thought that "poolmining=true" enabled other users to mine on your client using their own wallet addresses with a pooled payout similar to p2pool.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 09, 2013, 01:43:29 AM
I might still be off slightly, but if you use the listcpuminers you get to see other people in the internal pool. Usually there's just a few of them.
From what I understand that's as close as we have to a third party pool so far :)

When you use poolmining=true you become part of the internal pool.

Oh wow, I totally misunderstood the use of "poolmining=" I thought that "poolmining=true" enabled other users to mine on your client using their own wallet addresses with a pooled payout similar to p2pool.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!


Sweet, when the difficulty gets a little higher I will have to check it out.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 09, 2013, 01:53:14 AM
I *think* that it pools your CPU only, but that your video cards mining is still counted standalone. So you get a little boost by pooling.
I may have misinterpreted it.

When you use poolmining=true you become part of the internal pool.

Would solo mining fix this?

As far as I know solo mining is the ONLY mining option... Where else are you mining at...?

Quote
Also, would anyone care to guess the value of the coins? I wouldn't mind buying $25 worth from someone. Preferably from Canada since I can use an email bank transfer and the recipient would know it can't have a chargeback like paypal.

There's only been a few GRC trades that I am aware of:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327827.0 - Offers of 0.001 to 0.002 BTC per 1,000 GRC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347908.0 - Apparent sales of 10,000 GRC per 1 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349365.0 - Sale of 500 GRC for 50 mBTC

I was under the impression that this is designed for CPU only miners correct?


Title: Client still stalling
Post by: aleistermarley on December 09, 2013, 05:25:07 PM
I have made a clean install from scratch with the latest software but the client still stalls every few hours.
Then i have to fire it up with -salvagewallet and it works again but only for a few hours
 - then suddenly no more blocks beeing loaded. restart game...

somehow all my mined coins since yesterday got lost this way  :-[ had to restore wallet.dat from backup

what to do?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 09, 2013, 05:44:52 PM
Im looking into this hang up issue; it just started after the recent two upgrades but the core code hasnt changed.

One hint is three of my machines work perfectly for over 30 hours now; but the one that keeps having issues has 500 test transactions over 3 chains; and its wallet keeps needing to be salvaged.

I finally sent my coins to my other machine and cleared the wallet and so far so good; feel free to try this if you continually have wallet problems.

Its not guranteed to work as Im not sure exactly what the issue is yet!

Regarding pool mining Alien, yes you can pool mine with that setting and it is for GPU only use; no cpu calculations at all.  There is a thread Aysyr started on cryptocointalk with a lot of poolmining posts.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 09, 2013, 06:42:11 PM
All-
The block explorer is finally synced up:
http://explorer.gridcoin.us

I moved it to prod, and increased the bandwidth and user limits so it should have a higher service level and it is connected to a seed node, so the block number should be accurate going forward.

Rob H.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 09, 2013, 11:46:21 PM
Just an update, my 2 latest fresh installs have been running flawlessly for about 24 hours now   :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Dalekmun2010 on December 10, 2013, 05:33:51 AM
I just looked at my rig, and it said that I have "Found Block on pool 0" Pic related: http://sdrv.ms/1ffanah
Does this mean I have found a block? It's not showing up in my wallet.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 10, 2013, 05:38:24 AM

Regarding pool mining Alien, yes you can pool mine with that setting and it is for GPU only use; no cpu calculations at all.  There is a thread Aysyr started on cryptocointalk with a lot of poolmining posts.


Did you say the gpu/cpu part backwards?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 10, 2013, 05:44:56 AM
I just looked at my rig, and it said that I have "Found Block on pool 0" Pic related: http://sdrv.ms/1ffanah
Does this mean I have found a block? It's not showing up in my wallet.

From what I read that doesn't particularly mean you found a block. It's confusing I know. If you find a block it would probably say accepted under your summary in guiminer as below

http://i42.tinypic.com/257n91v.jpg

Are you pool mining btw?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Dalekmun2010 on December 10, 2013, 06:05:07 AM
I just looked at my rig, and it said that I have "Found Block on pool 0" Pic related: http://sdrv.ms/1ffanah
Does this mean I have found a block? It's not showing up in my wallet.

From what I read that doesn't particularly mean you found a block. It's confusing I know. If you find a block it would probably say accepted under your summary in guiminer as below

http://i42.tinypic.com/257n91v.jpg

Are you pool mining btw?

Not pool mining, none accepted. How long does it usually take for you to find a block at your speed?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 10, 2013, 06:05:16 AM

Regarding pool mining Alien, yes you can pool mine with that setting and it is for GPU only use; no cpu calculations at all.  There is a thread Aysyr started on cryptocointalk with a lot of poolmining posts.


Did you say the gpu/cpu part backwards?
Hi,

No-- its for GPU users.  

 Rob H.

TribalBob-- Excellent.  I had similar results after I sent my coins out to my other node and cleared the wallet.  Thinking that wallets bigger than 1 meg are a problem, but will be testing that further.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 10, 2013, 06:17:29 AM
Dalekmun,

To find out approx. how long it'll take you to find a block do this. First look at either explorer.gridcoin.us or type getmininginfo in your Debug console to get the total network hashrate. Currently it's 28,000 kh/s (or 28 mh/s). Then, divide your hashrate by the network hashrate and just convert it to a fraction that's 1/x

Let's say your hashrate is 300kh/s. So 300/28,000 = 1/93.3 so you'll find approx 1 block out of ever 94. Each block is 2.5 min so 94 * 2.5 = 235 min = 3 hour 55 min.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Dalekmun2010 on December 10, 2013, 06:28:31 AM
Dalekmun,

To find out approx. how long it'll take you to find a block do this. First look at either explorer.gridcoin.us or type getmininginfo in your Debug console to get the total network hashrate. Currently it's 28,000 kh/s (or 28 mh/s). Then, divide your hashrate by the network hashrate and just convert it to a fraction that's 1/x

Let's say your hashrate is 300kh/s. So 300/28,000 = 1/93.3 so you'll find approx 1 block out of ever 94. Each block is 2.5 min so 94 * 2.5 = 235 min = 3 hour 55 min.

Ah, Thanks! That's really helpful!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Dalekmun2010 on December 10, 2013, 06:42:56 AM
Dalekmun,

To find out approx. how long it'll take you to find a block do this. First look at either explorer.gridcoin.us or type getmininginfo in your Debug console to get the total network hashrate. Currently it's 28,000 kh/s (or 28 mh/s). Then, divide your hashrate by the network hashrate and just convert it to a fraction that's 1/x

Let's say your hashrate is 300kh/s. So 300/28,000 = 1/93.3 so you'll find approx 1 block out of ever 94. Each block is 2.5 min so 94 * 2.5 = 235 min = 3 hour 55 min.

Wait, it said my other 2 shares (Or whatever they're called) where stale. Anything I can do about this? http://sdrv.ms/1byJLQK
I'm guessing it means I solved the block, but someone beat me to it, or my network connection was too slow.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: C. Bergmann on December 10, 2013, 09:23:05 AM
Hi,

I write the blog for bitcoin.de. About a month ago I mentioned gridcoin and received great interest. Does some dev want to give me a short interview via pm about inspiration, technical problems and actual progess?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 10, 2013, 12:28:49 PM
I guess Gridcoin himself would be the only person qualified for that one. Or maybe Aysyr.

Hi,

I write the blog for bitcoin.de. About a month ago I mentioned gridcoin and received great interest. Does some dev want to give me a short interview via pm about inspiration, technical problems and actual progess?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 10, 2013, 01:51:38 PM
Hi,

I write the blog for bitcoin.de. About a month ago I mentioned gridcoin and received great interest. Does some dev want to give me a short interview via pm about inspiration, technical problems and actual progess?
I'd be glad to do the article, please send me an e-mail at contact@gridcoin.us or PM me and we'll get started.

Best Regards,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 10, 2013, 02:10:26 PM
http://s7.directupload.net/images/131210/sfzi3c92.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

I just set up a chinese chating group (QQ) for GRC supporting up to 500 people. Any chinese friends who love GRC are welcome.

We believe the future of GRC and everybody should contribute to that.

Gridcoin交流群 (GRC) 群号是258951963


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: btbat on December 10, 2013, 02:24:55 PM
Good Grid coin.
I want to get and work for it.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: katsoo on December 10, 2013, 02:30:02 PM
after figuring every thing out, I stilllll can't get my wallet to sync, and adding the one addnode I found isn't helping.. ???


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 10, 2013, 02:38:41 PM
Hi,

I write the blog for bitcoin.de. About a month ago I mentioned gridcoin and received great interest. Does some dev want to give me a short interview via pm about inspiration, technical problems and actual progess?
I'd be glad to do the article, please send me an e-mail at contact@gridcoin.us or PM me and we'll get started.

Best Regards,
Rob H.


Total coins: Gridcoin is scheduled to produce 84 million currency units.

I disagree on that. Even with 100GRC per block, it should be 168 millioni currency units. Am I right or I misunderstood.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 10, 2013, 02:46:34 PM
after figuring every thing out, I stilllll can't get my wallet to sync, and adding the one addnode I found isn't helping.. ???

What's it doing exactly? Is it just getting stuck while syncing, or are the blocks not matching up? Do you have the latest version 1.1.3.9?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: katsoo on December 10, 2013, 02:54:47 PM
It's showing tiny transactions coming thru, just 0 active connections on my wallet. I have NO idea how i managed to make it work, I suppose it's just really great tutorials!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 10, 2013, 03:09:57 PM
So it's working now? That's great! Just make sure that the blocks you have (it'll tell you if you hover your mouse over the green check mark on the bottom right) match up with the blocks on explorer.gridcoin.us


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 10, 2013, 04:54:03 PM
I don't think I reported this particular error before, though I've been getting it regularly:

System error: CDB(): can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974

Even when I use my backup wallet to recover that will pop up again after a bit.

There should be a gridcoin bug bounty program :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 10, 2013, 05:10:07 PM
I don't think I reported this particular error before, though I've been getting it regularly:

System error: CDB(): can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974

Even when I use my backup wallet to recover that will pop up again after a bit.

There should be a gridcoin bug bounty program :D
As TribalBob suggested, doing the
gridcoin-qt -salvagewallet
command may work for you.

This bug is affecting about 10% of the wallets and seems to go away when you delete your data folder and start a new wallet.  Im working on diagnosing it.  I certainly believe it has something to do with the wallet file, and/or if something is being stored in there making it bigger (that we are not aware of at this time)!

Rest assured Ill be working on this next.

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 10, 2013, 05:43:46 PM
Yes, I have that same suspicion. It seems the wallet gets larger and then some kind of synching problem occurs. One the -salvagewallet command is run and a new wallet is made everything seem to run fine.

Could it be something with the boinc hash or any of that stuff?

I don't think I reported this particular error before, though I've been getting it regularly:

System error: CDB(): can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974

Even when I use my backup wallet to recover that will pop up again after a bit.

There should be a gridcoin bug bounty program :D
As TribalBob suggested, doing the
gridcoin-qt -salvagewallet
command may work for you.

This bug is affecting about 10% of the wallets and seems to go away when you delete your data folder and start a new wallet.  Im working on diagnosing it.  I certainly believe it has something to do with the wallet file, and/or if something is being stored in there making it bigger (that we are not aware of at this time)!

Rest assured Ill be working on this next.

Grid



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 10, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
That's actually stored in the block and not in the wallet so that's why it is so perplexing.
I'm going to analyze a corrupt wallet file.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 10, 2013, 06:26:05 PM
Oh, I've done salvagewallet, reinstalls, etc.
It just pops up again.

No worries. Just reporting the errors with whatever extra data comes along.

I don't think I reported this particular error before, though I've been getting it regularly:

System error: CDB(): can't open database file wallet.dat, error -30974

Even when I use my backup wallet to recover that will pop up again after a bit.

There should be a gridcoin bug bounty program :D
As TribalBob suggested, doing the
gridcoin-qt -salvagewallet
command may work for you.

This bug is affecting about 10% of the wallets and seems to go away when you delete your data folder and start a new wallet.  Im working on diagnosing it.  I certainly believe it has something to do with the wallet file, and/or if something is being stored in there making it bigger (that we are not aware of at this time)!

Rest assured Ill be working on this next.

Grid



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Sir William on December 10, 2013, 09:52:15 PM
I'm running the 64 bit version of Windows 8.  I'm having a critical error running the client in server mode.  I was able to run the client initially to update it, but when I started it in server mode it bombs on the Gridcoin Mining Module.   I then get a "Gridcoin-qt has stopped working".   :(  I have the 64 bit version of Boinc (7.2.33), but the Gridcoin client is not attached.  The contents of my gridcoin.conf un my Roaming/Gridcoin directory is below.

server=1
rpcuser=myusername
rpcpassword=mypassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=9332

Is there anything else I can try?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 10, 2013, 09:59:34 PM
run it as administrator.

I'm running the 64 bit version of Windows 8.  I'm having a critical error running the client in server mode.  I was able to run the client initially to update it, but when I started it in server mode it bombs on the Gridcoin Mining Module.   I then get a "Gridcoin-qt has stopped working".   :(  I have the 64 bit version of Boinc (7.2.33), but the Gridcoin client is not attached.  The contents of my gridcoin.conf un my Roaming/Gridcoin directory is below.

server=1
rpcuser=myusername
rpcpassword=mypassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=9332

Is there anything else I can try?



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 10, 2013, 10:51:10 PM
New version available at www.gridcoin.us (1.1.4.0, MSI 5.6):

Please upgrade using the prod-msi, as this version has a new file in it (GPUEnumerator) that will be used in the future to show GPU device names and channels in the mining window.

The theory is that when we exit the wallet ungracefully, the BerkeleyDB database files are left in an unstable state and haven't been
flushed properly.  

In this version, we remove the restartwallet feature, the Close Wallet button and we force the code to exit gracefully when the wallet
exits, and during an upgrade.

After deleting your program files (x86)\gridcoin directory and reinstalling, you may have to re-launch the MSI and click Repair for it
to register the TLB files properly.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: insanehero on December 10, 2013, 11:02:14 PM
I'm buying Gridcoin if any of you want to sell for BTC!


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366127.0

^^^^Buy Thread ^^^^^


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 11, 2013, 01:08:57 AM

Total coins: Gridcoin is scheduled to produce 84 million currency units.

I disagree on that. Even with 100GRC per block, it should be 168 millioni currency units. Am I right or I misunderstood.

It is in fact ~168 million estimated as stated in the first post.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 11, 2013, 09:40:43 AM
Hey,

Finally got hold of a 7950. However this is my first time mining so I am not sure what settings to put into the miner http://imgur.com/nLZzSRA (http://imgur.com/nLZzSRA) ?
Sorry for the noob question. Can anybody help me please ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 11, 2013, 10:06:13 AM
Am I doing this correct ? What should I put for the question marks ?

Host : 127.0.0.1
Port : 9332
Username : myusername                              (same as in conf file)
Password : mypassword                               (same as in conf file)
Device :   ?                                                (0-0 Tahitit OR 0-1 CPU ?)
Extra Flags : ?
Thread Concurrency : ?
Worksize : ?
Vectors : ?
Intensity: ?
GPU Threads : ?
GPU Defaults : ?                                  (has an option for 7950 (high/low usage) which provides defaults should i use defaults ? or better settings available ?)
Use stratum : ?                                   (I am assuming its no)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 11, 2013, 11:52:28 AM
Hi everyone!

Just an idea:
Would it be possible to add BOINC statistics for users in Gridcoin teams to the block explorer website?
So we would be able to check how much work we all did for BOINC, some averages, maybe a ladder sorted by who did most etc.

It would be nice to see and keep track of our contribution to BOINC.

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 11, 2013, 12:54:47 PM
get the guiminer scrypt, you can choose the setting for the 7950 right from the window.

Am I doing this correct ? What should I put for the question marks ?

Host : 127.0.0.1
Port : 9332
Username : myusername                              (same as in conf file)
Password : mypassword                               (same as in conf file)
Device :   ?                                                (0-0 Tahitit OR 0-1 CPU ?)
Extra Flags : ?
Thread Concurrency : ?
Worksize : ?
Vectors : ?
Intensity: ?
GPU Threads : ?
GPU Defaults : ?                                  (has an option for 7950 (high/low usage) which provides defaults should i use defaults ? or better settings available ?)
Use stratum : ?                                   (I am assuming its no)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 11, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
get the guiminer scrypt, you can choose the setting for the 7950 right from the window.

Hi traderman,
I have got guiminer scrypt .. is this not it  ? http://imgur.com/nLZzSRA (http://imgur.com/nLZzSRA)
However when I opened the gridcoin-qt the second time it somehow got detached from the mining window see this http://imgur.com/DEKCE3d (http://imgur.com/DEKCE3d)

As you can see its showing a lower hashrate for the 7950.
Also Am I supposed to select "tahitit" from the device option ? Could you post a screenshot of how it looks on your system ? Mine has been running at 550 khps without finding a block for the past 3-4 hours.

Thanks


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 11, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
550 is ok, you will find maybe 1-5 blocks per day. the difficulty is already higher then before. so just leave it.

get the guiminer scrypt, you can choose the setting for the 7950 right from the window.

Hi traderman,
I have got guiminer scrypt .. is this not it  ? http://imgur.com/nLZzSRA (http://imgur.com/nLZzSRA)
However when I opened the gridcoin-qt the second time it somehow got detached from the mining window see this http://imgur.com/DEKCE3d (http://imgur.com/DEKCE3d)

As you can see its showing a lower hashrate for the 7950.
Also Am I supposed to select "tahitit" from the device option ? Could you post a screenshot of how it looks on your system ? Mine has been running at 550 khps without finding a block for the past 3-4 hours.

Thanks


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 11, 2013, 02:13:59 PM
550 is ok, you will find maybe 1-5 blocks per day. the difficulty is already higher then before. so just leave it.

Thanks again traderman. Is it not too less for a 7950 ? the litecoin hardware comparison page says 702 khps (so thats 20% less almost !!). Also just curious what do you mean by "so just leave it " ? :P

I will report tomorrow in about 12 hours if i have recieved a block.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 11, 2013, 02:21:06 PM
I have had several 7950 and i can tell you without overclocking the card to the max you will not get 700 and the card will be running very high temps, which is not good.

550 is ok, you will find maybe 1-5 blocks per day. the difficulty is already higher then before. so just leave it.

Thanks again traderman. Is it not too less for a 7950 ? the litecoin hardware comparison page says 702 khps (so thats 20% less almost !!). Also just curious what do you mean by "so just leave it " ? :P

I will report tomorrow in about 12 hours if i have recieved a block.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 11, 2013, 02:23:11 PM
If you are running Boinc please join team Gridcoin http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832 @ the World Community Grid. You can just add it as one of your projects in Boinc.

Currently our team has only 8 guys. I am sure if the whole Gridcoin community joins in we can kick some serious butt.

The more people we get to join the higher we go in the rankings and the more publicity Gridcoin will get.

So, JOIN IN.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: datguyian on December 11, 2013, 05:41:53 PM
I'm trying to get this going, but none of the boinc links are working... seems like Berkeley's sub site for boinc is down right now. Does anyone have a mirror they could post?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 11, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
I'm trying to get this going, but none of the boinc links are working... seems like Berkeley's sub site for boinc is down right now. Does anyone have a mirror they could post?

Yea seems like they are down.

I uploaded the copy I used to Google Docs so you can use this for now if you like

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxcCulFRYg57akN6dVVYNl9WMlU/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: datguyian on December 11, 2013, 06:02:29 PM
I'm trying to get this going, but none of the boinc links are working... seems like Berkeley's sub site for boinc is down right now. Does anyone have a mirror they could post?

Yea seems like they are down.

I uploaded the copy I used to Google Docs so you can use this for now if you like

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxcCulFRYg57akN6dVVYNl9WMlU/edit?usp=sharing

  Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: datguyian on December 11, 2013, 07:00:53 PM
Anyone else having trouble syncing up? I've tried re-downloading the block chain two times, but getting stuck at block #29645

Edit: Just realized it's probably because I'm on 1.0.3.6. and the website says i need 1.1.3.9... but the website MSI points to 1.0.2.5 and the .zip shows 1.0.3.6... where can I download 1.1.3.9?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 11, 2013, 07:19:12 PM
I have been having problems all day.

Anyone else having trouble syncing up? I've tried re-downloading the block chain two times, but getting stuck at block #29645

Edit: Just realized it's probably because I'm on 1.0.3.6. and the website says i need 1.1.3.9... but the website MSI points to 1.0.2.5 and the .zip shows 1.0.3.6... where can I download 1.1.3.9?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: datguyian on December 11, 2013, 07:25:16 PM
I have been having problems all day.

Anyone else having trouble syncing up? I've tried re-downloading the block chain two times, but getting stuck at block #29645

Edit: Just realized it's probably because I'm on 1.0.3.6. and the website says i need 1.1.3.9... but the website MSI points to 1.0.2.5 and the .zip shows 1.0.3.6... where can I download 1.1.3.9?

well I just figured out the new version is what the beta link points to (1.1.4.0). Trying to download the block chain again right now. I'll report back with what happens.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: datguyian on December 11, 2013, 07:33:10 PM
Now it shows a synced. Hopefully will stay that way... about to start mining. Also, I have these addnodes:

addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778


Not sure if that made a difference too or not.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: datguyian on December 11, 2013, 08:05:25 PM
Got everything up and running now  ;D

Not sure if that's about average or if I just got lucky, but 2 blocks @ 150/ea after 2 minutes mining w/only ~1300 k/hs.

In any case, cool stuff... I just got back into mining this month and before I took a break from it, I was waiting for something like this to come out. Glad there's something that should be profitable but also worth mining now.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: grex on December 11, 2013, 08:14:55 PM
When I try to compile the qt-wallet under ubuntu, qmake reports:
Code:
Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: qaxcontainer

make terminates with following error:
Code:
src/qt/bitcoingui.cpp:9:21: fatal error: QAxObject: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.

Please help me to solve this problem.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: slashka on December 11, 2013, 09:51:01 PM
First of all I'd like to say big thanks to developers that they have bring to us such a cryprocurrency! THANKS! I think that it would have a big and bright future! This is the first coin in which I fell in love :)

I'd like to support or something. I can help with translation eng<->rus, can help in programming. I'd like to mine it, but all I have is a core2duo  >:( So, somehow, I'd like to help in Grid Coin evolution. I've launched the wallet under WINE in Ubuntu and support many of community members which are saying that it is too dark. I could help you to program some "theme switcher" or android app. Programming experience ~10 years.

GAJVTf4JLxPwX8e3rq51jaJo2KMH6GrGDZ


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 11, 2013, 10:22:01 PM
Welcome to the team Slahska.

First of all I'd like to say big thanks to developers that they have bring to us such a cryprocurrency! THANKS! I think that it would have a big and bright future! This is the first coin in which I fell in love :)

I'd like to support or something. I can help with translation eng<->rus, can help in programming. I'd like to mine it, but all I have is a core2duo  >:( So, somehow, I'd like to help in Grid Coin evolution. I've launched the wallet under WINE in Ubuntu and support many of community members which are saying that it is too dark. I could help you to program some "theme switcher" or android app. Programming experience ~10 years.

GAJVTf4JLxPwX8e3rq51jaJo2KMH6GrGDZ


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: slashka on December 12, 2013, 09:17:02 AM
Now it shows a synced. Hopefully will stay that way... about to start mining. Also, I have these addnodes:

addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778


Not sure if that made a difference too or not.

Hey, guys? May be there are some other nodes to add, because this ones don't work for me. No connection :(
Or may be I should setup incoming port in my router. Which one then?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thatbluedude on December 12, 2013, 11:26:35 AM
Is there an off switch in gridcoin that shuts down everything reliably?
When I tried boinc some time ago I disliked how it kept hogging ressources in the background despite claiming no activity, even after a programm shutdown there were processes left running in the backgrounnd. (It was set to shut down completely).

 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 12, 2013, 01:07:40 PM
you are prob only minimizing it to the tray and not shutting it down.

Is there an off switch in gridcoin that shuts down everything reliably?
When I tried boinc some time ago I disliked how it kept hogging ressources in the background despite claiming no activity, even after a programm shutdown there were processes left running in the backgrounnd. (It was set to shut down completely).

 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 12, 2013, 01:39:04 PM
Ok this is really strange ... I hit my second block and it was showing "Immature" (just like the first block) ... I thought after sometime it will be added to my balance (i.e when the block "matures") .. but later to my amazement the bloack reward just disappeared !!

Has anyone had this problem of block reward just disappearing once it has been shown ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 12, 2013, 01:46:52 PM
Is there a question mark beside it?

Ok this is really strange ... I hit my second block and it was showing "Immature" (just like the first block) ... I thought after sometime it will be added to my balance (i.e when the block "matures") .. but later to my amazement the bloack reward just disappeared !!

Has anyone had this problem of block reward just disappearing once it has been shown ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 12, 2013, 01:56:49 PM
Is there a question mark beside it?

Ok this is really strange ... I hit my second block and it was showing "Immature" (just like the first block) ... I thought after sometime it will be added to my balance (i.e when the block "matures") .. but later to my amazement the bloack reward just disappeared !!

Has anyone had this problem of block reward just disappearing once it has been shown ?

No there is no question mark ... its  just disappeared !! Its not even showing in the transactions.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 12, 2013, 02:36:43 PM
Now it shows a synced. Hopefully will stay that way... about to start mining. Also, I have these addnodes:

addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778


Not sure if that made a difference too or not.

Hey, guys? May be there are some other nodes to add, because this ones don't work for me. No connection :(
Or may be I should setup incoming port in my router. Which one then?
Thanks!

The default port to forward is "9778" but if you prefer to use another port you can add this to your gridcoin.conf:

Code:
port=####

Just replace the "####" with whatever port number you would like to use.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 12, 2013, 02:39:47 PM
Just had this error this morning:

Code:
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Value of '-56' is not valid for 'Value'. 'Value' should be between 'minimum' and 'maximum'.
Parameter name: Value
   at System.Windows.Forms.ProgressBar.set_Value(Int32 value)
   at boinc.frmMining.timerBoincBlock_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18052 built by: FX45RTMGDR
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
boinc
    Assembly Version: 1.17.8.79
    Win32 Version: 1.17.8.79
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Gridcoin/boinc.DLL
----------------------------------------
GVM
    Assembly Version: 1.0.1.7
    Win32 Version: 1.0.2.8
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Gridcoin/GVM.DLL
----------------------------------------
Microsoft.VisualBasic
    Assembly Version: 10.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 11.0.50709.17929 built by: FX45RTMREL
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/v4.0_10.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
----------------------------------------
System
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18021 built by: FX45RTMGDR
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Core
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.17929 built by: FX45RTMREL
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18036 built by: FX45RTMGDR
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18021 built by: FX45RTMGDR
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms.DataVisualization
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.17929
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms.DataVisualization/v4.0_4.0.0.0__31bf3856ad364e35/System.Windows.Forms.DataVisualization.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Data
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.17929 built by: FX45RTMREL
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_32/System.Data/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Data.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 4.0.30319.18060 built by: FX45RTMGDR
    CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: vesperwillow on December 12, 2013, 04:00:41 PM
I see this is a scrypt coin, but the 'about gridcoin' thing explains that it only uses unused CPU cycles. So is it using a CPU for scrypt? Can you use dedicated GPU farms? When will the linux version be available?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 12, 2013, 04:20:51 PM
Some of the projects on the World Community Grid have gpu support. The way it works is that mining is done mostly by gpu and Boinc uses the cpu depending on how much % you tell it to use.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

I see this is a scrypt coin, but the 'about gridcoin' thing explains that it only uses unused CPU cycles. So is it using a CPU for scrypt? Can you use dedicated GPU farms? When will the linux version be available?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: vesperwillow on December 12, 2013, 04:29:35 PM
Some of the projects on the World Community Grid have gpu support. The way it works is that mining is done mostly by gpu and Boinc uses the cpu depending on how much % you tell it to use.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

I see this is a scrypt coin, but the 'about gridcoin' thing explains that it only uses unused CPU cycles. So is it using a CPU for scrypt? Can you use dedicated GPU farms? When will the linux version be available?

Gotchya, makes sense now. Any idea on linux availability?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 12, 2013, 04:30:10 PM
I see this is a scrypt coin, but the 'about gridcoin' thing explains that it only uses unused CPU cycles. So is it using a CPU for scrypt? Can you use dedicated GPU farms? When will the linux version be available?

The blockchain is secured by scrypt and mined via GPU as a traditional coin.  The reward for mining a block, however, is based on the CPU's participation in BIONC.  So the reward ranges from 5 GRC (mining without BOINC running) to 150 GRC (majority of CPU power dedicated to BOINC).  BOINC is an open computer grid allowing one to participate in a variety of scientific and medical research.  


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 12, 2013, 04:52:42 PM
Ok somebody really needs to explain this now http://i.imgur.com/MvzQyVH.png (http://i.imgur.com/MvzQyVH.png)

The image clearly shows that I had recieved a block (which was my 2nd block) at a certain timestamp in the guiminer, however the transaction just disappeared after that from the wallet (after initiallty appearing in the transactions)!!

Is this a security bug or something ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 12, 2013, 05:49:08 PM
Will pools need to be specialized for Gridcoin/BOINC?
I think I'm going to do some research into pool operation :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 12, 2013, 05:55:06 PM
Ok somebody really needs to explain this now http://i.imgur.com/MvzQyVH.png (http://i.imgur.com/MvzQyVH.png)

The image clearly shows that I had recieved a block (which was my 2nd block) at a certain timestamp in the guiminer, however the transaction just disappeared after that from the wallet (after initiallty appearing in the transactions)!!

Is this a security bug or something ?

Make sure you are on the same last block as the block explorer: http://explorer.gridcoin.us/
Also make sure you have the latest wallet/client from gridcoin.us (use the QT-beta download on the lower right) here: www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin-beta.msi


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 12, 2013, 05:56:57 PM
Will pools need to be specialized for Gridcoin/BOINC?
I think I'm going to do some research into pool operation :)


Yes, there is a native pool available by setting poolmining=true in the gridcoin.conf (I have not used it myself)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: powdabam on December 12, 2013, 06:20:15 PM
Couldn't Bitcoin just implement Boinc?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 12, 2013, 06:31:08 PM
Couldn't Bitcoin just implement Boinc?

Well for one the Sha256 algorithm is maintained by a massive network of ASIC.   These specialized miners would be unable to participate in BOINC research and they do not have an onboard cpu that could participate either.  That's why scrypt was chosen since almost all scrypt mining rigs (not FPGAs) have both gpus and cpus that could be used for hashing and Boinc research in tandem.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 12, 2013, 06:31:48 PM
Ok somebody really needs to explain this now http://i.imgur.com/MvzQyVH.png (http://i.imgur.com/MvzQyVH.png)

The image clearly shows that I had recieved a block (which was my 2nd block) at a certain timestamp in the guiminer, however the transaction just disappeared after that from the wallet (after initiallty appearing in the transactions)!!

Is this a security bug or something ?

Make sure you are on the same last block as the block explorer: http://explorer.gridcoin.us/
Also make sure you have the latest wallet/client from gridcoin.us (use the QT-beta download on the lower right) here: www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin-beta.msi



I am on the latest block and even mined a block after that (hopefully that doesnt disappear). Cant understand why it happened.

Can anyone explain ? Or else this could possibly be a major flaw ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 12, 2013, 06:33:36 PM
Ok somebody really needs to explain this now http://i.imgur.com/MvzQyVH.png (http://i.imgur.com/MvzQyVH.png)

The image clearly shows that I had recieved a block (which was my 2nd block) at a certain timestamp in the guiminer, however the transaction just disappeared after that from the wallet (after initiallty appearing in the transactions)!!

Is this a security bug or something ?

Make sure you are on the same last block as the block explorer: http://explorer.gridcoin.us/
Also make sure you have the latest wallet/client from gridcoin.us (use the QT-beta download on the lower right) here: www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin-beta.msi



I am on the latest block and even mined a block after that (hopefully that doesnt disappear). Cant understand why it happened.

Can anyone explain ? Or else this could possibly be a major flaw ?

Does your mining console say Version:33?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 12, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
Does your mining console say Version:33?

Yes it does. Somebody really needs to check this.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 12, 2013, 06:42:04 PM
Does your mining console say Version:33?

Yes it does.

It was most likely an orphan which happens occasionally when solo-ming.  This is when someone solves the block on the network just before you do. Your wallet shows you mined the block but once it is check with the network it is invalidated and shows up as a "?" and usually disappears once you restart you wallet or reindex to the blockchain.  Have you tried the internal pool yet? (setting poolmining=true in your config)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 12, 2013, 06:46:47 PM
It was most likely an orphan which happens occasionally when solo-ming.  This is when someone solves the block on the network just before you do. Your wallet shows you mined the block but once it is check with the network it is invalidated and shows up as a "?" and usually disappears once you restart you wallet or reindex to the blockchain.  Have you tried the internal pool yet? (setting poolmining=true in your config)

No I have not. Is the payout proportional to the hashrate or something ? And any more settings besides poolmining=true to be set ?
I was under the impression its only solo mining.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 12, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
It was most likely an orphan which happens occasionally when solo-ming.  This is when someone solves the block on the network just before you do. Your wallet shows you mined the block but once it is check with the network it is invalidated and shows up as a "?" and usually disappears once you restart you wallet or reindex to the blockchain.  Have you tried the internal pool yet? (setting poolmining=true in your config)

No I have not. Is the payout proportional to the hashrate or something ? And any more settings besides poolmining=true to be set ?
I was under the impression its only solo mining.

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1995-pooled-mining/?p=15597



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 12, 2013, 07:02:15 PM
It was most likely an orphan which happens occasionally when solo-ming.  This is when someone solves the block on the network just before you do. Your wallet shows you mined the block but once it is check with the network it is invalidated and shows up as a "?" and usually disappears once you restart you wallet or reindex to the blockchain.  Have you tried the internal pool yet? (setting poolmining=true in your config)

No I have not. Is the payout proportional to the hashrate or something ? And any more settings besides poolmining=true to be set ?
I was under the impression its only solo mining.

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1995-pooled-mining/?p=15597



Thanks for that .. will wait and watch :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 12, 2013, 09:39:34 PM
Does anyone here need any paypal? i need btc or ltc.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Jcsarokin on December 12, 2013, 10:45:48 PM
Is there an easy way to purchase Gridcoin at the moment? A thread for buying / selling perhaps?

I also have BOINC open on one of my computers from the XRP giveaway, how many Gridcoin can be mined per day on an average machine?

Love the concept - would like to get involved soon :)

- J



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 12, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
What kind of graphics card do you have?

Is there an easy way to purchase Gridcoin at the moment? A thread for buying / selling perhaps?

I also have BOINC open on one of my computers from the XRP giveaway, how many Gridcoin can be mined per day on an average machine?




Love the concept - would like to get involved soon :)

- J




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 13, 2013, 12:35:34 AM
Alien, I know about that :P

I mean when the coin takes off even more and we see the trend towards independent pools turning up.

Will pools need to be specialized for Gridcoin/BOINC?
I think I'm going to do some research into pool operation :)


Yes, there is a native pool available by setting poolmining=true in the gridcoin.conf (I have not used it myself)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 13, 2013, 01:40:07 AM
Alien, I know about that :P

I mean when the coin takes off even more and we see the trend towards independent pools turning up.

Will pools need to be specialized for Gridcoin/BOINC?
I think I'm going to do some research into pool operation :)


Yes, there is a native pool available by setting poolmining=true in the gridcoin.conf (I have not used it myself)

Yeah, I'm sure it would have to be a lot more sophisticated than a typical pool.  Hopefully he will chime in with his predictions on the future pools..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 13, 2013, 04:16:07 PM
You can still setup a traditional pool, it will be without the Boinc subsidy however.

Alien, I know about that :P

I mean when the coin takes off even more and we see the trend towards independent pools turning up.

Will pools need to be specialized for Gridcoin/BOINC?
I think I'm going to do some research into pool operation :)

I think if the cpu mining thing works good, that would be great. You can still mine in a traditional pool just without the Boinc subsidy.


Yes, there is a native pool available by setting poolmining=true in the gridcoin.conf (I have not used it myself)

Yeah, I'm sure it would have to be a lot more sophisticated than a typical pool.  Hopefully he will chime in with his predictions on the future pools..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 13, 2013, 04:37:04 PM
You can still setup a traditional pool, it will be without the Boinc subsidy however.

I'm not so sure about that.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread that when I was mining on my laptop, if I had BOINC running and an instance of pooler's cpuminer working through the loopback address, I was able to use my my gpu+cgminer from my desktop pc and was still earning BOINC subsidies when the gpu miner found a block.

I stopped though because I knew this was not how Gridcoin was intended to work.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 13, 2013, 05:35:46 PM
Ok my client seems to be stuck on block 30603 while synchronizing ... what do I do now ? (I already tried adding the nodes and also tried upgrade command (which fails) along with restarting the client ....... none seem to work)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 13, 2013, 05:41:29 PM
I occasionally get that. Just delete the blocks and chainstate folder as well as your peers file in \AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin and let it redownload the blockchain. Takes about 5 minutes but it'll be caught up again after that.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 13, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
Ok my client seems to be stuck on block 30603 while synchronizing ... what do I do now ? (I already tried adding the nodes and also tried upgrade command (which fails) along with restarting the client ....... none seem to work)

In a command prompt type the following:
Code:
1) cd c:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin
2) gridcoin-qt -rescan

If that does not work, do the following:
Code:
1) Open file explorer
2) In navbar type: "%appdata%" (no quotes)
3) Open "Gridcoin" folder
4) Delete everything except "wallet.dat" and "gridcoin.conf"
5) re-launch Gridcoin


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 13, 2013, 06:32:39 PM
I occasionally get that. Just delete the blocks and chainstate folder as well as your peers file in \AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin and let it redownload the blockchain. Takes about 5 minutes but it'll be caught up again after that.

Did that but it seems i lost an unconfirmed block that I had mined :-(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 13, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
Ok my client seems to be stuck on block 30603 while synchronizing ... what do I do now ? (I already tried adding the nodes and also tried upgrade command (which fails) along with restarting the client ....... none seem to work)

In a command prompt type the following:
Code:
1) cd c:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin
2) gridcoin-qt -rescan

If that does not work, do the following:
Code:
1) Open file explorer
2) In navbar type: "%appdata%" (no quotes)
3) Open "Gridcoin" folder
4) Delete everything except "wallet.dat" and "gridcoin.conf"
5) re-launch Gridcoin

Thanks will try it next time


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 13, 2013, 06:50:34 PM
I occasionally get that. Just delete the blocks and chainstate folder as well as your peers file in \AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin and let it redownload the blockchain. Takes about 5 minutes but it'll be caught up again after that.

Did that but it seems i lost an unconfirmed block that I had mined :-(

If you lost it, it means that it hadn't been taken into the chain. Since you got left behind, you may have found that while you were lagging so when you caught back up to the chain, it deleted that block since it wasn't finding it now that you caught up.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 13, 2013, 06:55:06 PM
I occasionally get that. Just delete the blocks and chainstate folder as well as your peers file in \AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin and let it redownload the blockchain. Takes about 5 minutes but it'll be caught up again after that.

Did that but it seems i lost an unconfirmed block that I had mined :-(

If you lost it, it means that it hadn't been taken into the chain. Since you got left behind, you may have found that while you were lagging so when you caught back up to the chain, it deleted that block since it wasn't finding it now that you caught up.

Actually I was synchronized with the blocks when it was unconfirmed and then I restarted the system .. upon restarting there were problems (and then later repairing by deleting blocks,chainstate and peers it worked) ... it was no longer there when I resynchronized.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 13, 2013, 07:09:33 PM
I occasionally get that. Just delete the blocks and chainstate folder as well as your peers file in \AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin and let it redownload the blockchain. Takes about 5 minutes but it'll be caught up again after that.

Did that but it seems i lost an unconfirmed block that I had mined :-(

If you lost it, it means that it hadn't been taken into the chain. Since you got left behind, you may have found that while you were lagging so when you caught back up to the chain, it deleted that block since it wasn't finding it now that you caught up.

Actually I was synchronized with the blocks when it was unconfirmed and then I restarted the system .. upon restarting there were problems (and then later repairing by deleting blocks,chainstate and peers it worked) ... it was no longer there when I resynchronized.

What happens is that at some points the client will get stuck at a block (even though it says that it is correctly synced with the network), since the client thinks it is synced and is not receiving any new blocks your miner continues to mine on the block that it's stuck at until either it solves the block or you restart the client.

If it solves the block your client will say that it is accepted because as far as it is concerned this was the latest block on the network, but when you restart and re-sync properly the transaction will disappear because it was never valid in the first place and was never even a part of the original blockchain to begin with.

The easiest thing that I have found to do is to check in on my miner occasionally and compare the times between the last time a block was detected on the network and the current time - If only a few minutes have passed then everything is probably fine, if it's been 30 minutes or more since the last block, odds are pretty good my client has stalled and needs a re-start (usually with the "-rescan" option).


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 14, 2013, 12:04:01 AM
we should really consider going for exchange market now. otherwise we will die slowly.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 14, 2013, 12:16:10 AM
You mean get Gridcoin on an exchange?

we should really consider going for exchange market now. otherwise we will die slowly.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: prins on December 14, 2013, 10:59:08 AM
sigh.. solomining 550kh solo to get my first block and join the pool, first day no luck (1 stale :( )
Hope theres something in the works to make the pooled mining easier. I like the idea of the coin but it cant be a success if its near impossible to mine solo and to pool mine you need to solo mine first.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: airtreb on December 14, 2013, 11:34:33 AM
do we have a buy and sell sheet for this coin?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: airtreb on December 14, 2013, 11:36:00 AM
i have 11k GRC anyone interested?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 14, 2013, 01:12:12 PM
I have 1 box doing 600khas and I am doing 5-10 blocks per day. I don't know what you people are doing.

sigh.. solomining 550kh solo to get my first block and join the pool, first day no luck (1 stale :( )
Hope theres something in the works to make the pooled mining easier. I like the idea of the coin but it cant be a success if its near impossible to mine solo and to pool mine you need to solo mine first.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 14, 2013, 01:15:09 PM
I have 1 box doing 600khas and I am doing 5-10 blocks per day. I don't know what you people are doing.

sigh.. solomining 550kh solo to get my first block and join the pool, first day no luck (1 stale :( )
Hope theres something in the works to make the pooled mining easier. I like the idea of the coin but it cant be a success if its near impossible to mine solo and to pool mine you need to solo mine first.

Mine is about 550 khps but im just getting about 2 on avg ... guess its quite a non-linear relationship .... hopefully will settle the skew in the longer run.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 14, 2013, 02:20:24 PM
Hey! Difficulty increased this night from 0.8 to 2.5. More miners are coming to this crypto =)
P.S. Would buy 5k GRC at 0.01 BTC per 1k GRC rate.
P.P.S. I can run again Google Trade Sheet like this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182424.msg1904043#msg1904043), but for GRC\LTC or GRC\BTC.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 14, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
I suppose a trade sheet would be good until we get on one of the exchanges.

Hey! Difficulty increased this night from 0.8 to 2.5. More miners are coming to this crypto =)
P.S. Would buy 5k GRC at 0.01 BTC per 1k GRC rate.
P.P.S. I can run again Google Trade Sheet like this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182424.msg1904043#msg1904043), but for GRC\LTC or GRC\BTC.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 14, 2013, 03:25:00 PM
Welcome! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371000.new#new (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371000.new#new)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 14, 2013, 09:26:27 PM
I stopped using cudaminer last night just to see how many coins I'd continue to bring it just using the wallet.
No change at all.

So now my video card is free to do other stuff while I bring in gridcoins. Yay :)

Probably wasn't finding any big chunks of coins because I only have 106kh.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 14, 2013, 09:40:56 PM
I have 1 box doing 600khas and I am doing 5-10 blocks per day. I don't know what you people are doing.

sigh.. solomining 550kh solo to get my first block and join the pool, first day no luck (1 stale :( )
Hope theres something in the works to make the pooled mining easier. I like the idea of the coin but it cant be a success if its near impossible to mine solo and to pool mine you need to solo mine first.

Yeah, I'm doing ~400 KH/s and getting 4-7 blocks/day here...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 14, 2013, 10:04:17 PM
Jeez. I've only found 2 blocks in twelve days and one of those orphaned.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: champbronc2 on December 14, 2013, 10:32:17 PM
Well I must say this coin has HUGE growth potential because it's the ONLY crypto that actually does something beneficial.

Too bad it looks like shit.

So much room for growth and investment :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Doublelucky on December 14, 2013, 10:54:06 PM
My wallet keeps crashing 1.1.4.0 - I think it's when the mining console loads

This is the error message details I get:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Application Version:   0.8.5.1
  Application Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Fault Module Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.8.5.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   000b482e
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   4105
  Additional Information 1:   8189
  Additional Information 2:   81898da2f12cbbe34c2d9de731501f01
  Additional Information 3:   b9f2
  Additional Information 4:   b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

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Can anyone help? Thanks


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 14, 2013, 11:01:39 PM
you have to specify the boinc install and data folder in gridcoin.conf

Also make sure you are running the gridcoin client as Administrator.

My wallet keeps crashing 1.1.4.0 - I think it's when the mining console loads

This is the error message details I get:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Application Version:   0.8.5.1
  Application Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Fault Module Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.8.5.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   000b482e
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   4105
  Additional Information 1:   8189
  Additional Information 2:   81898da2f12cbbe34c2d9de731501f01
  Additional Information 3:   b9f2
  Additional Information 4:   b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

Read our privacy statement online:
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Can anyone help? Thanks



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Doublelucky on December 14, 2013, 11:08:30 PM
you have to specify the boinc install and data folder in gridcoin.conf

Also make sure you are running the gridcoin client as Administrator.

My wallet keeps crashing 1.1.4.0 - I think it's when the mining console loads

This is the error message details I get:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Application Version:   0.8.5.1
  Application Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Fault Module Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.8.5.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   000b482e
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   4105
  Additional Information 1:   8189
  Additional Information 2:   81898da2f12cbbe34c2d9de731501f01
  Additional Information 3:   b9f2
  Additional Information 4:   b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

Read our privacy statement online:
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Can anyone help? Thanks




I'm sorry I am new at this and this is like a foreign language to me

What is boinc install?

I have a gridcoin.conf file under %appdata%\gridcoin with:

addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 14, 2013, 11:25:29 PM
http://www.gridcoin.us/download/guiminer_scrypt_alpha.txt Read this before you do anything.

you have to specify the boinc install and data folder in gridcoin.conf

Also make sure you are running the gridcoin client as Administrator.

My wallet keeps crashing 1.1.4.0 - I think it's when the mining console loads

This is the error message details I get:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Application Version:   0.8.5.1
  Application Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Fault Module Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.8.5.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   000b482e
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   4105
  Additional Information 1:   8189
  Additional Information 2:   81898da2f12cbbe34c2d9de731501f01
  Additional Information 3:   b9f2
  Additional Information 4:   b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

Read our privacy statement online:
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If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
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Can anyone help? Thanks




I'm sorry I am new at this and this is like a foreign language to me

What is boinc install?

I have a gridcoin.conf file under %appdata%\gridcoin with:

addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 14, 2013, 11:27:32 PM
GRC/BTC Exchange via Google Docs Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371000.0)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 14, 2013, 11:45:25 PM
The trade sheet url has to be posted on the first post under exchange so people can see it.

GRC/BTC Exchange via Google Docs Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371000.0)
GRC/BTC Exchange via Google Docs Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371000.0)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 14, 2013, 11:48:19 PM
The trade sheet url has to be posted on the first post under exchange so people can see it.

GRC/BTC Exchange via Google Docs Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371000.0)
GRC/BTC Exchange via Google Docs Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371000.0)

Hopefully OP will see and place it there...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Doublelucky on December 15, 2013, 04:55:44 AM
http://www.gridcoin.us/download/guiminer_scrypt_alpha.txt Read this before you do anything.

you have to specify the boinc install and data folder in gridcoin.conf

Also make sure you are running the gridcoin client as Administrator.

My wallet keeps crashing 1.1.4.0 - I think it's when the mining console loads

This is the error message details I get:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Application Version:   0.8.5.1
  Application Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Fault Module Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.8.5.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   000b482e
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   4105
  Additional Information 1:   8189
  Additional Information 2:   81898da2f12cbbe34c2d9de731501f01
  Additional Information 3:   b9f2
  Additional Information 4:   b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

Read our privacy statement online:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
  C:\windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt


Can anyone help? Thanks




I'm sorry I am new at this and this is like a foreign language to me

What is boinc install?

I have a gridcoin.conf file under %appdata%\gridcoin with:

addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778




Ok I went through the link you posted and followed it step by step... my boinc seems to be working
but my wallet still freezes as soon as both wallet and mining console load


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 15, 2013, 05:08:42 AM
Do you have an AV? Try excluding the folder that contains your Gridcoin files, reinstall, and try opening it again


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 15, 2013, 05:15:17 AM
http://www.gridcoin.us/download/guiminer_scrypt_alpha.txt Read this before you do anything.

you have to specify the boinc install and data folder in gridcoin.conf

Also make sure you are running the gridcoin client as Administrator.

My wallet keeps crashing 1.1.4.0 - I think it's when the mining console loads

This is the error message details I get:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Application Version:   0.8.5.1
  Application Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Fault Module Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.8.5.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   000b482e
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   4105
  Additional Information 1:   8189
  Additional Information 2:   81898da2f12cbbe34c2d9de731501f01
  Additional Information 3:   b9f2
  Additional Information 4:   b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

Read our privacy statement online:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
  C:\windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt


Can anyone help? Thanks




I'm sorry I am new at this and this is like a foreign language to me

What is boinc install?

I have a gridcoin.conf file under %appdata%\gridcoin with:

addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778




Ok I went through the link you posted and followed it step by step... my boinc seems to be working
but my wallet still freezes as soon as both wallet and mining console load

Try this in your .conf

Code:
rpcuser=YourUsername
rpcpassword=YourPassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
server=1
poolmining=false
addnode=98.114.181.178
addnode=76.187.184.27
addnode=66.187.94.194
addnode=76.74.177.224
addnode=84.125.196.167
addnode=71.233.139.62
addnode=72.92.48.105

If you want to participate in the client's internal pool you can change "poolmining=false" to "poolmining=true" but when I joined the pool I saw no difference in the difficulty, so I just mine solo...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 15, 2013, 05:18:26 AM
If you still have problems please paste the output of %appdata/roaming/Gridcoin/debug.log


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: johnatx on December 15, 2013, 05:30:14 AM
Do you guys know when "cpumining" starts to pay out GRC?
Have been cpumining for some time now.
Will be great to see the BOINC credits get accounted directly.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 15, 2013, 05:34:36 AM
Do you guys know when "cpumining" starts to pay out GRC?
Have been cpumining for some time now.
Will be great to see the BOINC credits get accounted directly.

Gridcoin isn't really designed for cpu mining, for Gridcoin your cpu should be used for BOINC then you want to use your GPU for Gridcoin.

If you use your cpu for Gridcoin you will get reduced rewards as either your hashing speed will be reduced by BOINC or, if you decide not to run BOINC, you will only get 5 GRC for found blocks.

What is your cpu hashrate like...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: johnatx on December 15, 2013, 05:46:59 AM
Thanks for the reply, TribalBob.
I was referring to the feature Gridcoin developer Rob put in for the specific "cpumining" feature of Gridcoin. In another word, paying out GRC corresponding to the daily BOINCs earned. I think that is a very good way to award native BOINC workers.
So far I have only seen many 0.08 trickling out of wallets, not sure when there will be payout.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on December 15, 2013, 10:02:56 AM
Ok,

I spent one day of mining on wrong blockchain as I didnt follow up this forum daily.
I want to thank to Aysyr who alert me about new client version.

But is it really that hard to add alert message to client:
"Caution, you are using old version. Update now!"
???

It is nice we have matrix-style wallet, but this feature will be much more practical.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: slashka on December 15, 2013, 10:39:35 AM
I'm ready to write an exchange site in a couple of days, but all I need is a linux version of a gricdoind (daemon version), because I can not find what source are responsible for compiling it.

BTW, is it necessary to install boinc to use wallet only? Because I have no connections to network a long time :(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 15, 2013, 01:17:40 PM
Did you specifiy in gridcoin.conf where boinc is installed and the boinc data folder ?

http://www.gridcoin.us/download/guiminer_scrypt_alpha.txt Read this before you do anything.

you have to specify the boinc install and data folder in gridcoin.conf

Also make sure you are running the gridcoin client as Administrator.

My wallet keeps crashing 1.1.4.0 - I think it's when the mining console loads

This is the error message details I get:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Application Version:   0.8.5.1
  Application Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Fault Module Name:   gridcoin-qt.exe
  Fault Module Version:   0.8.5.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:   52a78cc4
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   000b482e
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   4105
  Additional Information 1:   8189
  Additional Information 2:   81898da2f12cbbe34c2d9de731501f01
  Additional Information 3:   b9f2
  Additional Information 4:   b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

Read our privacy statement online:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
  C:\windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt


Can anyone help? Thanks




I'm sorry I am new at this and this is like a foreign language to me

What is boinc install?

I have a gridcoin.conf file under %appdata%\gridcoin with:

addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:9778




Ok I went through the link you posted and followed it step by step... my boinc seems to be working
but my wallet still freezes as soon as both wallet and mining console load


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 15, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
No, you do not need boinc, you can use the wallet by itself. Did you get the latest version? If you want linux you have to contact Gridcoin, the developer, he will give you one.

I'm ready to write an exchange site in a couple of days, but all I need is a linux version of a gricdoind (daemon version), because I can not find what source are responsible for compiling it.

BTW, is it necessary to install boinc to use wallet only? Because I have no connections to network a long time :(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 15, 2013, 02:19:21 PM
Alien, I know about that :P

I mean when the coin takes off even more and we see the trend towards independent pools turning up.

Will pools need to be specialized for Gridcoin/BOINC?
I think I'm going to do some research into pool operation :)


Yes, there is a native pool available by setting poolmining=true in the gridcoin.conf (I have not used it myself)

Yeah, I'm sure it would have to be a lot more sophisticated than a typical pool.  Hopefully he will chime in with his predictions on the future pools..
Hey guys,
Been extremely busy, lots of emails coming in to the contact address, and finishing up v1.0 of the integrated miner -- the wallet is still compatible with cgminer, reaper, guiminer and gridcoinminer however.

The integrated miner has a "sleep" function only designed to be used if we ever implement the network sleep algo allowing segments of the network to sleep; still being discussed on cryptocointalk; no resolution. 

Just as an FYI, the gridcoinminer was developed to sit out during a non-eligible hash block; the function is not turned on and still in the discussion phase.

Regarding future pools, since a detached pool could undermine the security of gridcoin obviously we don't want that, so for now, we are focusing on ways to make the current integrated pool robust enough to handle 1000 users.  Its scalable enough to do 100 as-is without a code change.  We have a plan that can allow it to scale to 1000 users by turning on the hourly wallet consolidation feature (requires a release) and I believe that will allow us to operate for a year or so as long as we keep growing.  In the longer term we would need something a little better (only necessary if we have more than 500 pool miners), and I personally think the answer is adding MySQL support to the coin -- with a database integrated into the coin, we could then do the cool things to this coin that would make it supportable from an IT standpoint and allow the larger features to be added; for example in the current state, its extremely hard to add new tables of data (such as guid-poolminer-payment-confirm) and a database like MySQL would allow us to do that and support the code.  So in summary, I think for pool mining over the next year:

1) Use the integrated miner until we reach 100 users (we are at 33 already)
2) Release a patched version of the wallet that switches to daily payouts, supporting up to 1000 users. 
3) Over the next year, add my-sql to the coin
4) After that is debugged, add pool mining to the database
5) Enjoy a stable, provable integrated pool with close to unlimited scalability and features

Rob Halford






Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: slashka on December 15, 2013, 02:31:09 PM
Hey guys,
Been extremely busy, lots of emails coming in to the contact address, and finishing up v1.0 of the integrated miner -- the wallet is still compatible with cgminer, reaper, guiminer and gridcoinminer however.

The integrated miner has a "sleep" function only designed to be used if we ever implement the network sleep algo allowing segments of the network to sleep; still being discussed on cryptocointalk; no resolution. 

Just as an FYI, the gridcoinminer was developed to sit out during a non-eligible hash block; the function is not turned on and still in the discussion phase.

Regarding future pools, since a detached pool could undermine the security of gridcoin obviously we don't want that, so for now, we are focusing on ways to make the current integrated pool robust enough to handle 1000 users.  Its scalable enough to do 100 as-is without a code change.  We have a plan that can allow it to scale to 1000 users by turning on the hourly wallet consolidation feature (requires a release) and I believe that will allow us to operate for a year or so as long as we keep growing.  In the longer term we would need something a little better (only necessary if we have more than 500 pool miners), and I personally think the answer is adding MySQL support to the coin -- with a database integrated into the coin, we could then do the cool things to this coin that would make it supportable from an IT standpoint and allow the larger features to be added; for example in the current state, its extremely hard to add new tables of data (such as guid-poolminer-payment-confirm) and a database like MySQL would allow us to do that and support the code.  So in summary, I think for pool mining over the next year:

1) Use the integrated miner until we reach 100 users (we are at 33 already)
2) Release a patched version of the wallet that switches to daily payouts, supporting up to 1000 users. 
3) Over the next year, add my-sql to the coin
4) After that is debugged, add pool mining to the database
5) Enjoy a stable, provable integrated pool with close to unlimited scalability and features

Rob Halford

Hey, Rob. This is great news! But I'm afraid of using mysql. Why? Now all clients are stucked on loading block chains. The performance depends of hdd speed mostly. Though, in my opinion, it will fall with including database. May be a wrong comparison, but that's why all high load projects put popular query results in cache.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 15, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Hi everyone!

Just an idea:
Would it be possible to add BOINC statistics for users in Gridcoin teams to the block explorer website?
So we would be able to check how much work we all did for BOINC, some averages, maybe a ladder sorted by who did most etc.

It would be nice to see and keep track of our contribution to BOINC.

Andrew.
Yes its a great idea, Aysyr is keeping a wishlist of things (please add it Aysyr), and eventually we will make the block explorer allow clicking on txids' and we can add the boinc stats too.

I'm currently looking at the syncing issues first-- have observed that all of my non seed-nodes sync correctly -- but my seed node with over 100 connections has an issue every 12 hours; and cannot be resolved without deleting the blocks folder.  I am trying to find the root cause.  At this point, I'm going to make a feature that tells the wallet to delete 100 blocks before its last confirm and automatically resync, and hopefully if we release that feature the group will be able to tell me if that works without restarting the wallet.  If it does we may uncover the problem or build that in to the code to automatically execute that when it happens.  

I also have a suspicion that a large number of non gridcoin-qt nodes are connecting to the seed nodes; that would require a global port change; we'll try one thing at a time.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 15, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
Hey guys,
Been extremely busy, lots of emails coming in to the contact address, and finishing up v1.0 of the integrated miner -- the wallet is still compatible with cgminer, reaper, guiminer and gridcoinminer however.

The integrated miner has a "sleep" function only designed to be used if we ever implement the network sleep algo allowing segments of the network to sleep; still being discussed on cryptocointalk; no resolution. 

Just as an FYI, the gridcoinminer was developed to sit out during a non-eligible hash block; the function is not turned on and still in the discussion phase.

Regarding future pools, since a detached pool could undermine the security of gridcoin obviously we don't want that, so for now, we are focusing on ways to make the current integrated pool robust enough to handle 1000 users.  Its scalable enough to do 100 as-is without a code change.  We have a plan that can allow it to scale to 1000 users by turning on the hourly wallet consolidation feature (requires a release) and I believe that will allow us to operate for a year or so as long as we keep growing.  In the longer term we would need something a little better (only necessary if we have more than 500 pool miners), and I personally think the answer is adding MySQL support to the coin -- with a database integrated into the coin, we could then do the cool things to this coin that would make it supportable from an IT standpoint and allow the larger features to be added; for example in the current state, its extremely hard to add new tables of data (such as guid-poolminer-payment-confirm) and a database like MySQL would allow us to do that and support the code.  So in summary, I think for pool mining over the next year:

1) Use the integrated miner until we reach 100 users (we are at 33 already)
2) Release a patched version of the wallet that switches to daily payouts, supporting up to 1000 users. 
3) Over the next year, add my-sql to the coin
4) After that is debugged, add pool mining to the database
5) Enjoy a stable, provable integrated pool with close to unlimited scalability and features

Rob Halford

Hey, Rob. This is great news! But I'm afraid of using mysql. Why? Now all clients are stucked on loading block chains. The performance depends of hdd speed mostly. Though, in my opinion, it will fall with including database. May be a wrong comparison, but that's why all high load projects put popular query results in cache.

Hi,

Don't worry, we'll fix the syncing issue first - MySQL would be a full 6 months out anyway, its such as drastic change.  I'm talking about replacing berkeleyDB altogether and moving to MySQL after it is provably working alongside berkeleyDB.

Regarding MySQL, first, we'll still have a memory pool for volatile transactions; that works fine; its used when someone buys a coffee with gridcoins and the tx is not part of a block.

Regarding scalability of MySQL don't worry about that, I have seen tables with 5 million rows,  with clustered indexes they work fine, and in this type of situation we're really only using the last 100 blocks at any given time; not a problem for an enterprise database to handle.  Not to mention we would have 30,000 copies of it all doing the work on each individual pc, so I think it would actually be more efficient than writing to locked files on the filesystem (ie the algos are already there to efficiently search for relevant data in contrast to searching the chain for data sequentially).

Regarding choosing MySQL, its free and strong enough to work without paying any royalties, and works cross platform.  It would allow database administrators who want to support gridcoin to get involved to write ansi-92 reports etc.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: slashka on December 15, 2013, 02:47:39 PM
Hi,

Don't worry, we'll fix the syncing issue first - MySQL would be a full 6 months out anyway, its such as drastic change.  I'm talking about replacing berkeleyDB altogether and moving to MySQL after it is provably working alongside berkeleyDB.

Regarding MySQL, first, we'll still have a memory pool for volatile transactions; that works fine; its used when someone buys a coffee with gridcoins and the tx is not part of a block.

Regarding scalability of MySQL don't worry about that, I have seen tables with 5 million rows,  with clustered indexes they work fine, and in this type of situation we're really only using the last 100 blocks at any given time; not a problem for an enterprise database to handle.  Not to mention we would have 30,000 copies of it all doing the work on each individual pc, so I think it would actually be more efficient than writing to locked files on the filesystem (ie the algos are already there to efficiently search for relevant data in contrast to searching the chain for data sequentially).

Regarding choosing MySQL, its free and strong enough to work without paying any royalties, and works cross platform.  It would allow database administrators who want to support gridcoin to get involved to write ansi-92 reports etc.

Rob H.


That's nice! Don't think that I'm too intrusive, but contact me. I wanna help with development


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 15, 2013, 02:49:53 PM
First of all I'd like to say big thanks to developers that they have bring to us such a cryprocurrency! THANKS! I think that it would have a big and bright future! This is the first coin in which I fell in love :)

I'd like to support or something. I can help with translation eng<->rus, can help in programming. I'd like to mine it, but all I have is a core2duo  >:( So, somehow, I'd like to help in Grid Coin evolution. I've launched the wallet under WINE in Ubuntu and support many of community members which are saying that it is too dark. I could help you to program some "theme switcher" or android app. Programming experience ~10 years.

GAJVTf4JLxPwX8e3rq51jaJo2KMH6GrGDZ
Hi Slashka,
Your running it in Wine in Ubuntu?  That's good to know; because our Linux guy is busy adding the cpuminer to the Linux version and Id like to give people some direction that have been left hanging.  Are you able to mine successfully using wine-Ubuntu?

Regarding programming, Ive been receiving a lot of volunteer e-mails to the contact address, which is great.  We had a project scheduled to port a thin client to Android.  I have a volunteer named "Lowkey Leesmith" who would like to start on that--- would you be interested in working on that with him?  PM me if your interested.  

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 15, 2013, 02:54:54 PM
When I try to compile the qt-wallet under ubuntu, qmake reports:
Code:
Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: qaxcontainer

make terminates with following error:
Code:
src/qt/bitcoingui.cpp:9:21: fatal error: QAxObject: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.

Please help me to solve this problem.

Hi Grex,
You can build a Linux version if you look at the cryptsy thread on page 1 of this thread (the please add us to the exchange link) a guy named Roo posted the instructions for the build,
but please be aware that you cannot Mine on the latest Linux version since it does not have a CPUMiner-- its mainly there as a wallet for the exchanges etc.
Sergey is working on the CPUMiner now; but its a big project.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 15, 2013, 02:57:34 PM
Just had this error this morning:

Code:
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Value of '-56' is not valid for 'Value'. 'Value' should be between 'minimum' and 'maximum'.
Parameter name: Value
   at System.Windows.Forms.ProgressBar.set_Value(Int32 value)
   at boinc.frmMining.timerBoincBlock_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.
[/quote]




Thanks Bob---- I see exactly where the problem is, its trying to make main progress bar -56, Ill fix it this afternoon, release may be held up 4-5 days due to the integrated miner.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 15, 2013, 03:05:56 PM
It was most likely an orphan which happens occasionally when solo-ming.  This is when someone solves the block on the network just before you do. Your wallet shows you mined the block but once it is check with the network it is invalidated and shows up as a "?" and usually disappears once you restart you wallet or reindex to the blockchain.  Have you tried the internal pool yet? (setting poolmining=true in your config)

No I have not. Is the payout proportional to the hashrate or something ? And any more settings besides poolmining=true to be set ?
I was under the impression its only solo mining.
Hi NobleBot,

Regarding the orphan block you found and "possible major flaw", don't worry -- you have to look at it from another perspective --  if you look at the larger pool statistics like burnsides pool for example (a scrypt mining pool) youll see quite a high stale rate, maybe 3% if I remember correctly.  It happens all the time, and makes you feel as though you have been cheated out of revenue but that's not the case, remember if you have 90 concurrent miners there is a high chance another miner can find the same solution.  The solution has to propogate the entire networks memory pool and the first client to write it to the chain wins-- you have to build in a 4% loss into your mining calculations-- also regarding integrity, the real analysis is what is actually contained in the official blocks on the net-- I get emails about people sending 50grc to each other  the grc always turns up somewhere; its either Not sent, or in a tx, and if you do a "getrawtransaction hexcode 1" you can see if the tx made it to the chain......  So the security is the same as litecoin-bitcoin.. but I do want to say, if we can ever integrate MySQL, we will then have the ability to query the transaction for you (along with every other Gridcoin user) and actually see confirms as they take place; etc; it would be excellent for auditing.  Right now, it is cumbersome to track all these things down.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 15, 2013, 03:37:19 PM
Hey Slashka, post your grc address so we can send you some donations for your help. :)

I'm ready to write an exchange site in a couple of days, but all I need is a linux version of a gricdoind (daemon version), because I can not find what source are responsible for compiling it.

BTW, is it necessary to install boinc to use wallet only? Because I have no connections to network a long time :(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 15, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
Guys, if you are running Boinc, make sure to join team Gridcoin @ World Community Grid, the more working members we have, the higher we go in the rankings. You can add it alongside the other projects you are running.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: slashka on December 15, 2013, 03:49:03 PM
Hey Slashka, post your grc address so we can send you some donations for your help. :)

I'm ready to write an exchange site in a couple of days, but all I need is a linux version of a gricdoind (daemon version), because I can not find what source are responsible for compiling it.

BTW, is it necessary to install boinc to use wallet only? Because I have no connections to network a long time :(

It's in my signature.
GAJVTf4JLxPwX8e3rq51jaJo2KMH6GrGDZ
Thank you anyway! My brain is waiting for programming queries  ;)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Tequilablob on December 15, 2013, 04:04:56 PM
Guys, if you are running Boinc, make sure to join team Gridcoin @ World Community Grid, the more working members we have, the higher we go in the rankings. You can add it alongside the other projects you are running.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Just joined your team.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 15, 2013, 04:52:30 PM
That's great Tequilablob!

I think if the whole Gridcoin community puts some power into the World Community Grid we can advance pretty quickly in the rankings.

Guys, if you are running Boinc, make sure to join team Gridcoin @ World Community Grid, the more working members we have, the higher we go in the rankings. You can add it alongside the other projects you are running.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Just joined your team.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: slashka on December 15, 2013, 05:06:55 PM
Hey guys! Well, I almost synced now :) but getting a dotnet error (which is better). Before I used a non install version (debug.log says that can not find peers). You should update package on site.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: slashka on December 15, 2013, 05:17:29 PM
Guys, if you are running Boinc, make sure to join team Gridcoin @ World Community Grid, the more working members we have, the higher we go in the rankings. You can add it alongside the other projects you are running.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Have joined too


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on December 15, 2013, 05:19:08 PM
Guys, if you are running Boinc, make sure to join team Gridcoin @ World Community Grid, the more working members we have, the higher we go in the rankings. You can add it alongside the other projects you are running.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Just joined.
I just wish the difficulty was lower, I'll never find a block with 200 KH/s :c


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 15, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
Current difficulty is @ 1.37 , it dropped off a bit, it was @ 2.5 before. So keep mining.

Guys, if you are running Boinc, make sure to join team Gridcoin @ World Community Grid, the more working members we have, the higher we go in the rankings. You can add it alongside the other projects you are running.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Just joined.
I just wish the difficulty was lower, I'll never find a block with 200 KH/s :c


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 15, 2013, 05:37:45 PM
Great!

What's your grc address, I will send you some GRC love :)

Guys, if you are running Boinc, make sure to join team Gridcoin @ World Community Grid, the more working members we have, the higher we go in the rankings. You can add it alongside the other projects you are running.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Just joined.
I just wish the difficulty was lower, I'll never find a block with 200 KH/s :c


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 15, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
Just sent you some GRC! :)

Great!

What's your grc address, I will send you some GRC love :)

Guys, if you are running Boinc, make sure to join team Gridcoin @ World Community Grid, the more working members we have, the higher we go in the rankings. You can add it alongside the other projects you are running.

Here is Team Gridcoin: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Just joined.
I just wish the difficulty was lower, I'll never find a block with 200 KH/s :c
FtWgehaapGH5cKSmMPEH91sVzxLUioNZ3s

Thanks!  :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 16, 2013, 12:24:32 AM
New beta version available on the web site (1.1.4.1 5.73-beta) if anyone wants to test it out - this is not the prod version, so please test cautiously and rollback if you have any problems.
 
Changes:
1) Integrated gridcoin miner.  The miner updates the hashrates for each GPU from left to right on the mining module screen.  Please stop guiminer and save the settings with autostart turned off before you run the gridcoin miner.
 
2) The restartwallet feature (restartwallet=minsbeforerestart in the config file) is re-enabled with a new purpose.  To solve the syncing issues for the time being with a cannonball approach, this feature will cause the wallet to close all open miners, close gridcoin, delete the blockchain, restart gridcoin, and reload the chain from the network.  I have tested it on my seed node and it seems to be working.  This will give us more time to figure out what is going on. 
 
3) Reindex blockchain button on the main page.  This does the same thing as #2, but manually.
 
4) When you exit gridcoin, it will gracefully close the database and stop any cgminers, reapers, gridcoinminers and exit.  You can now leave other windows open and exit with this single method.
 
5) The hashrates from gridcoins miner are summed and charted in the hash chart.
 
6) The main chart has been improved to not update in a jerky fashion.
 
7) The UI has some bugfixes and the updates to the boinc info more standardized.
 
You will have to delete the AppDir and reinstall this version manually as it contains new files.
 
To test the integrated miner:
 
Disable your guiminer auto-start(s) and save the settings so it doesn't try to start (we still support guiminer if it is in the directory for backwards compatibility).
 
To set up the integrated miner, go into the Mining Module and click Config.
 
There are only two preloaded configs so far, but it should allow you to type in the values manually for other cards.
 
You should see the dropdown full of your GPU device IDs.
 
Select one at a time, populate the values and click save.  (Also, check enabled).
 
You can verify the settings are saved with Refresh.
 
The values are stored by card in your config file.
 
Once you have them all populated, close that window and go to the mining module and click Restart Miner.
 
After the GRC Kernel compiles each individual GPU opencl file it will try to start mining. (This could take a while so please wait up to a minute).
 
Each individual card's mh/s will appear from the left to the right next to "GPUs" respecitively.
 
If one is out, there is a problem that wont allow that card to start.
 
One added Quirk to keep in mind:
 
Configuring cards with thread_concurrency values > 8192 may give you a problem temporarily.
You may have to store the config, try it, reboot the machine, and re-test (that usually permanently solves it).  On one of my machines, I only had to log off and log back on for the AMD drivers to pick up the gridcoin large buffers.
So, if you test first with lower thread concurrencies you can test to see if it works at all, then raise the TC > 8192, test, reboot, and test again, and if it works, it should continue to work.  Do not kill the gridcoinminer from the task manager, please use
the Close Miner or Exit wallet (doing that may hang the thread concurrency setting, until the next logoff logon as an FYI).
 
When full speed is checked, the cards will run at the agression set in the settings; when unchecked they run about 35% slower.
 
The GPU mining checkbox will toggle mining on-off.
 
If you do need to go back to guiminer, you can simply "disable" each configured GPU device in the config and the wallet will respect that on the next "Restart Miner".
 
Good luck,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 16, 2013, 07:42:17 AM
Great news, Gridcoin! It's nice to see that you is so active in development. Will check this beta soon.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 16, 2013, 03:17:07 PM
Gridcoin/Rob ... please look into the problem posted on the other forum ... looks serious to me.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 16, 2013, 03:21:37 PM
For the past few days everything has been running pretty good on my end. No synch prob or anything.

Gridcoin/Rob ... please look into the problem posted on the other forum ... looks serious to me.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 16, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
Gridcoin/Rob ... please look into the problem posted on the other forum ... looks serious to me.
Can you share link? Thank you.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 16, 2013, 03:35:51 PM
For the past few days everything has been running pretty good on my end. No synch prob or anything.

Gridcoin/Rob ... please look into the problem posted on the other forum ... looks serious to me.

Hi traderman, zulzedd,

Did you check out the pic I posted on the other forum ? Please check ... it still beats me how that happened.... still waiting for an explanation from somebody on that.

Here is the link https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1331-new-coin-launch-announcement-grc-gridcoin/page-34 (https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1331-new-coin-launch-announcement-grc-gridcoin/page-34)

Cheers.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 16, 2013, 03:49:57 PM
Try mining again and see if it happens again? If it happens a second time, then it may need more investigation.

For the past few days everything has been running pretty good on my end. No synch prob or anything.

Gridcoin/Rob ... please look into the problem posted on the other forum ... looks serious to me.

Hi traderman, zulzedd,

Did you check out the pic I posted on the other forum ? Please check ... it still beats me how that happened.... still waiting for an explanation from somebody on that.

Here is the link https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1331-new-coin-launch-announcement-grc-gridcoin/page-34 (https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1331-new-coin-launch-announcement-grc-gridcoin/page-34)

Cheers.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 16, 2013, 04:05:05 PM
Try mining again and see if it happens again? If it happens a second time, then it may need more investigation.

As I mentioned there - it (not recieving credit for mining) already happened twice (and yes both instances were not cases of orphan blocks which I can confirm).


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 16, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
what is the transaction ID for that block?

Try mining again and see if it happens again? If it happens a second time, then it may need more investigation.

As I mentioned there - it (not recieving credit for mining) already happened twice (and yes both instances were not cases of orphan blocks which I can confirm).


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on December 16, 2013, 05:01:25 PM
Did anyone make a faucet for Gridcoins? That would be awesome.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: thenoblebot on December 16, 2013, 05:30:26 PM
what is the transaction ID for that block?

I would be unable to tell you that because the details did not show up in my wallet , however maybe you can work it out backwards from the timestamp (im using IST).

Hope that helps cause I too want to know what caused it .


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 16, 2013, 06:30:44 PM
what is the transaction ID for that block?
I think you would need to keep mining and for every block found write down the transaction id. Then we can track it and see what happens.

what is the transaction ID for that block?
I think you would need to keep mining and for every block found write down the transaction id. Then we can track it and see what happens.


I would be unable to tell you that because the details did not show up in my wallet , however maybe you can work it out backwards from the timestamp (im using IST).

Hope that helps cause I too want to know what caused it .


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 17, 2013, 09:34:16 AM
Hi everyone!
I'm really interesting in this coin, because i started to use BOINC many years ago.

I have just one question: with 600kh/s is still better mining in solo?

Thx everyone!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 17, 2013, 09:42:35 AM
Hi everyone!
I'm really interesting in this coin, because i started to use BOINC many years ago.

I have just one question: with 600kh/s is still better mining in solo?

Thx everyone!
Hello and welcome! At current diff you will find block ~ every 3.75 hours, this mean you will get around 958.080825828 coins per day. But diff is jumping, so it's hard to predict.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 17, 2013, 09:44:58 AM
BTW! Block number 32768 = 215 was freshly mined.  ::)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 17, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
Hi everyone!
I'm really interesting in this coin, because i started to use BOINC many years ago.

I have just one question: with 600kh/s is still better mining in solo?

Thx everyone!
Hello and welcome! At current diff you will find block ~ every 3.75 hours, this mean you will get around 958.080825828 coins per day. But diff is jumping, so it's hard to predict.

thx for the reply :)

do you thing is better using a pool?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 17, 2013, 10:22:20 AM
Hi everyone!
I'm really interesting in this coin, because i started to use BOINC many years ago.

I have just one question: with 600kh/s is still better mining in solo?

Thx everyone!
Hello and welcome! At current diff you will find block ~ every 3.75 hours, this mean you will get around 958.080825828 coins per day. But diff is jumping, so it's hard to predict.

thx for the reply :)

do you thing is better using a pool?
I mining at little lower rate now and thinking about switch to pooled mining. But there is some issues with it, so i'll keep solo for a while.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 17, 2013, 11:45:22 AM
Ok, thx. Can you tell me the difficult of the network right now? or maybe there is a link with this and other information?



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: andrewp on December 17, 2013, 11:59:54 AM
Ok, thx. Can you tell me the difficult of the network right now? or maybe there is a link with this and other information?



Hi

Look at the explorer here:
http://explorer.gridcoin.us/ (http://explorer.gridcoin.us/)

Andrew.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 17, 2013, 01:20:59 PM
good job. I hope some exchange market will accept us.

I could not understand why GRC is not as popular as it should be.

Dogecoin: almost 10GHash
Billioncoin: just few hours after launch, up to 1GHash


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 17, 2013, 01:48:13 PM
Dude, forget these garbage coins, it is just a pump and dump.
Most of the exchanges are having massive problems right now, just go look at the services discussion section of this forum.

good job. I hope some exchange market will accept us.

I could not understand why GRC is not as popular as it should be.

Dogecoin: almost 10GHash
Billioncoin: just few hours after launch, up to 1GHash


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 17, 2013, 02:23:14 PM
Agree with traderman. That coins is just PnD trash coins. And also GRC it's not that simple to coinfigure for newbies, maybe this cause of low popularity among miners.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 17, 2013, 02:39:03 PM
Ok, thx. Can you tell me the difficult of the network right now? or maybe there is a link with this and other information?



Hi

Look at the explorer here:
http://explorer.gridcoin.us/ (http://explorer.gridcoin.us/)

Andrew.

thx!
One question: why does the difficult decrease? now is 0.942177, before was more than 1.x ?
should not difficult always increase?

P:S: sorry for my very bad english!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 17, 2013, 02:46:32 PM
Gridcoin may still be a small community compared to the other coins, but everyone who participates is 100% behind the idea. Not like the blind greed that is fueling all the other crap.
And just look how much we have grown just in the past 1 month. I would say we are right on course.

Agree with traderman. That coins is just PnD trash coins. And also GRC it's not that simple to coinfigure for newbies, maybe this cause of low popularity among miners.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 17, 2013, 04:39:09 PM
Gridcoin may still be a small community compared to the other coins, but everyone who participates is 100% behind the idea. Not like the blind greed that is fueling all the other crap.
And just look how much we have grown just in the past 1 month. I would say we are right on course.

Agree with traderman. That coins is just PnD trash coins. And also GRC it's not that simple to coinfigure for newbies, maybe this cause of low popularity among miners.

I agree with you that we have a small but loyalty community. I am afraid that the small community has mined a lot. Some others might think GRC has been premined by a small community in the future.

Besides, a lot of other coins with similar ideas are coming out. I know some coins just launched in China is cooperated with World Community Grid.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 17, 2013, 04:47:14 PM
All of us have mined, but we have also donated to Boinc and world community grid, so it is all good. I am sure others will understand.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

If you want help promote Gridcoin, you can spread my explainer video on other forums to raise awareness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tmNmZomeM


Gridcoin may still be a small community compared to the other coins, but everyone who participates is 100% behind the idea. Not like the blind greed that is fueling all the other crap.
And just look how much we have grown just in the past 1 month. I would say we are right on course.

Agree with traderman. That coins is just PnD trash coins. And also GRC it's not that simple to coinfigure for newbies, maybe this cause of low popularity among miners.

I agree with you that we have a small but loyalty community. I am afraid that the small community has mined a lot. Some others might think GRC has been premined by a small community in the future.

Besides, a lot of other coins with similar ideas are coming out. I know some coins just launched in China is cooperated with World Community Grid.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 17, 2013, 04:54:18 PM
All of us have mined, but we have also donated to Boinc and world community grid, so it is all good. I am sure others will understand.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Gridcoin may still be a small community compared to the other coins, but everyone who participates is 100% behind the idea. Not like the blind greed that is fueling all the other crap.
And just look how much we have grown just in the past 1 month. I would say we are right on course.

Agree with traderman. That coins is just PnD trash coins. And also GRC it's not that simple to coinfigure for newbies, maybe this cause of low popularity among miners.

I agree with you that we have a small but loyalty community. I am afraid that the small community has mined a lot. Some others might think GRC has been premined by a small community in the future.

Besides, a lot of other coins with similar ideas are coming out. I know some coins just launched in China is cooperated with World Community Grid.
Hi Imue,

Yes I think part of our low difficulty (1~1.5) is due to the fact you have to not only have boinc set up, you have to use the integrated pool mining, etc, its not farm-mine friendly, which is good for our mission, but its been slow and steady growth, and that's fine.

I can't see why anyone would think we are premining.  We have a small loyal community backing us and only about 50 miners with 31mh, two forums and I reached out to vircurex and cryptsy during the launch, and we have e-mailed all the exchanges to let them know we are here; I launched an advertisement campaign on Google in October; its a two way street, someone from an exchange can always email us at contact@gridcoin.us.  We are eager and willing to work with them to compile the wallet.    But as traderman said they may be having huge problems now; I will read more about that.

What is the URL for the coin that is working with world community grid? Id like to read about it.



Thanks,
Rob H.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on December 17, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
All of us have mined, but we have also donated to Boinc and world community grid, so it is all good. I am sure others will understand.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

Gridcoin may still be a small community compared to the other coins, but everyone who participates is 100% behind the idea. Not like the blind greed that is fueling all the other crap.
And just look how much we have grown just in the past 1 month. I would say we are right on course.

Agree with traderman. That coins is just PnD trash coins. And also GRC it's not that simple to coinfigure for newbies, maybe this cause of low popularity among miners.

I agree with you that we have a small but loyalty community. I am afraid that the small community has mined a lot. Some others might think GRC has been premined by a small community in the future.

Besides, a lot of other coins with similar ideas are coming out. I know some coins just launched in China is cooperated with World Community Grid.
Hi Imue,

Yes I think part of our low difficulty (1~1.5) is due to the fact you have to not only have boinc set up, you have to use the integrated pool mining, etc, its not farm-mine friendly, which is good for our mission, but its been slow and steady growth, and that's fine.

I can't see why anyone would think we are premining.  We have a small loyal community backing us and only about 50 miners with 31mh, two forums and I reached out to vircurex and cryptsy during the launch, and we have e-mailed all the exchanges to let them know we are here; I launched an advertisement campaign on Google in October; its a two way street, someone from an exchange can always email us at contact@gridcoin.us.  We are eager and willing to work with them to compile the wallet.    But as traderman said they may be having huge problems now; I will read more about that.

What is the URL for the coin that is working with world community grid? Id like to read about it.



Thanks,
Rob H.




Hi Rob,
just quick reply from my phone.

e.g. Bhcoin
www.baihuicoin.com

I have no idea how this coin works, but I am pretty sure it is a PnD coin. But they claimed that it is the only coin that benefits the real science and cooperates with WCG. But I doubt that, I think it is just a QRK clone.

BR




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 17, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
There's something magical going on.
Prior to this I'd only found two blocks. One that proc'd and the other vaporized.

Today I found 3 blocks in the last two hours! And that's with a 106 KH/s rate.

The gridcoin gods are smiling!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 17, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Actually make that four blocks, but one of those vaporized too.
If they orphan they stay in the transaction log right? Because this one vanished from the transactions as well.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on December 17, 2013, 08:24:04 PM
There's something magical going on.
Prior to this I'd only found two blocks. One that proc'd and the other vaporized.

Today I found 3 blocks in the last two hours! And that's with a 106 KH/s rate.

The gridcoin gods are smiling!
Well, you're lucky then, cause I haven't found any blocks lately with my 180 KH/s..
I've been mining for 6-7 hours and still no block. But you've found three, with 106 KH/s in two hours.
D:


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 17, 2013, 08:26:37 PM
could be a fork.

There's something magical going on.
Prior to this I'd only found two blocks. One that proc'd and the other vaporized.

Today I found 3 blocks in the last two hours! And that's with a 106 KH/s rate.

The gridcoin gods are smiling!
Well, you're lucky then, cause I haven't found any blocks lately with my 180 KH/s..
I've been mining for 6-7 hours and still no block. But you've found three, with 106 KH/s in two hours.
D:


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 17, 2013, 09:01:00 PM
Just found 2 more two minutes apart. I sure hope they don't end up ghosts.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 18, 2013, 07:33:54 AM
Why do most block rewards have the alias I set for them, but occasionally I get transactions that show an address in blueish text for the block reward?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 18, 2013, 07:43:38 AM
Question:

What is the benefit of poolmining=true

When I set poolmining=true cgminer reports the same difficulty and I don't seem to be finding shares any faster, so it seems to me that I am just mining at full difficulty as if I was solo mining but I have to share the rewards if I find a block...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 18, 2013, 07:54:00 AM
Also, the Gridcoin daemon for explorer.gridcoin.us has stalled


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 18, 2013, 10:17:27 AM
There's something magical going on.
Prior to this I'd only found two blocks. One that proc'd and the other vaporized.

Today I found 3 blocks in the last two hours! And that's with a 106 KH/s rate.

The gridcoin gods are smiling!

what does it mean when a block vaporized?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 18, 2013, 01:41:27 PM
It just means the person that mined it, was not synched with the network and it was rejected.

There's something magical going on.
Prior to this I'd only found two blocks. One that proc'd and the other vaporized.

Today I found 3 blocks in the last two hours! And that's with a 106 KH/s rate.

The gridcoin gods are smiling!

what does it mean when a block vaporized?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 18, 2013, 02:05:24 PM
It just means the person that mined it, was not synched with the network and it was rejected.

There's something magical going on.
Prior to this I'd only found two blocks. One that proc'd and the other vaporized.

Today I found 3 blocks in the last two hours! And that's with a 106 KH/s rate.

The gridcoin gods are smiling!

what does it mean when a block vaporized?

ok, thx. If i have understood correctly, i can know that because the number next letter "R" on cgime increments by...is that right?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 18, 2013, 04:20:07 PM
Can anyone please explain the benefit of "poolmining=true"...?

I have tried setting "poolmining=true" a couple of times and cgminer just continues to mine at the real difficulty, if the share difficulty doesn't decrease for "poolmining=true", then why even have it at all...?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 18, 2013, 04:29:09 PM
All of us have mined, but we have also donated to Boinc and world community grid, so it is all good. I am sure others will understand.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

I agree with you that we have a small but loyalty community. I am afraid that the small community has mined a lot. Some others might think GRC has been premined by a small community in the future.

Besides, a lot of other coins with similar ideas are coming out. I know some coins just launched in China is cooperated with World Community Grid.
Hi Imue,


www.baihuicoin.com

I have no idea how this coin works, but I am pretty sure it is a PnD coin. But they claimed that it is the only coin that benefits the real science and cooperates with WCG. But I doubt that, I think it is just a QRK clone.

BR




I took a look at baihuicoins website and explanation translated to English and one of the problems I see is the wallet hasn't been rebranded from BTC to Baihuicoin, (IE the base58 addresses are still Bitcoin addresses) for one, two, they don't go into any detail how the PoW is checked by other users.  I find it hard to believe this group solved the PoW problem.  At this time I don't feel they are a threat to gridcoin, and don't see a way that it actually works.  Im open minded so feel free to correct me if any assumptions are wrong.

Thanks!
Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 18, 2013, 04:32:12 PM
Can anyone please explain the benefit of "poolmining=true"...?

I have tried setting "poolmining=true" a couple of times and cgminer just continues to mine at the real difficulty, if the share difficulty doesn't decrease for "poolmining=true", then why even have it at all...?

Thanks!
Why have it at all:
Because people with cards slower than 500kh/s can be in the pool and receive regular payments over time.
If the difficulty rose to 10 lets say, the 100kh/s card would still be in the pool forever, because the difficulty changes the lookback period.
And if the 100kh/s user finds any block during the lookback period they stay in the pool.
So it simulates the equivalent of how a real pool functions.

If a user wants to take the risk of finding a block by solo mining they can, but they may not receive payments for long periods of time when difficulty is high.

Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 18, 2013, 04:47:51 PM
Can anyone please explain the benefit of "poolmining=true"...?

I have tried setting "poolmining=true" a couple of times and cgminer just continues to mine at the real difficulty, if the share difficulty doesn't decrease for "poolmining=true", then why even have it at all...?

Thanks!
Why have it at all:
Because people with cards slower than 500kh/s can be in the pool and receive regular payments over time.
If the difficulty rose to 10 lets say, the 100kh/s card would still be in the pool forever, because the difficulty changes the lookback period.
And if the 100kh/s user finds any block during the lookback period they stay in the pool.
So it simulates the equivalent of how a real pool functions.

If a user wants to take the risk of finding a block by solo mining they can, but they may not receive payments for long periods of time when difficulty is high.

Rob H.



That really does not answer my question.

I have a card that does ~400 KH/s, when I joined the pool there was literally ZERO difference in the difficulty that I was mining at. I was mining at the full target difficulty.

If there is literally ZERO difference between solo mining difficulty and the pool's share difficulty then what is the point of having "poolmining=true"...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: derm on December 18, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
What Rob explained was, you experience less variance in payouts.
You are right, this does not affect the difficulty, it lowers risk.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 18, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Can anyone please explain the benefit of "poolmining=true"...?

I have tried setting "poolmining=true" a couple of times and cgminer just continues to mine at the real difficulty, if the share difficulty doesn't decrease for "poolmining=true", then why even have it at all...?

Thanks!
Why have it at all:
Because people with cards slower than 500kh/s can be in the pool and receive regular payments over time.
If the difficulty rose to 10 lets say, the 100kh/s card would still be in the pool forever, because the difficulty changes the lookback period.
And if the 100kh/s user finds any block during the lookback period they stay in the pool.
So it simulates the equivalent of how a real pool functions.

If a user wants to take the risk of finding a block by solo mining they can, but they may not receive payments for long periods of time when difficulty is high.

Rob H.



That really does not answer my question.

I have a card that does ~400 KH/s, when I joined the pool there was literally ZERO difference in the difficulty that I was mining at. I was mining at the full target difficulty.

If there is literally ZERO difference between solo mining difficulty and the pool's share difficulty then what is the point of having "poolmining=true"...?

No there is no difference in difficulty; if there was everyone would want to pool mine to get something for nothing. LOL.  

I may not understand your question; if you are asking what is the benefit for you personally; none at this time since you can find a few blocks a day, it doesn't make much difference to you at this time.

But if we were solo mining feather, with a 100 difficulty, you would not get anything for 15-30 days; at that point the pool would come in handy, because the lookback would be 60 days (its dynamic), and members of the pool would be paid every time any other member of the pool finds a block, making regular payments would satisfy some miners as they go - if we had a high difficulty like that.

Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 18, 2013, 05:22:24 PM
No there is no difference in difficulty; if there was everyone would want to pool mine to get something for nothing. LOL.  

I may not understand your question; if you are asking what is the benefit for you personally; none at this time since you can find a few blocks a day, it doesn't make much difference to you at this time.

But if we were solo mining feather, with a 100 difficulty, you would not get anything for 15-30 days; at that point the pool would come in handy, because the lookback would be 60 days (its dynamic), and members of the pool would be paid every time any other member of the pool finds a block, making regular payments would satisfy some miners as they go - if we had a high difficulty like that.

Rob H.

Ok, let me try to explain my question better:

When I normally join a pool, let's say I am joining for a coin which has a difficulty of 500. When I mine at that pool I submit shares that are a target difficulty of 16 (NOT a difficulty of 500).

Every round when a block of difficulty 500 is found they compare how many difficulty 16 shares I have submitted and pay me based on a ratio of my difficulty 16 shares as compared to the total of difficulty 16 shares.



Now, let's say Gridcoin's real difficulty is 500. When I join Gridcoin's pool, I am still mining at difficulty 500 which means I am NOT submitting shares, I am only solving blocks.

HOW am I EVER going to get paid from the pool when there are no shares being submitted...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 18, 2013, 06:00:11 PM
No there is no difference in difficulty; if there was everyone would want to pool mine to get something for nothing. LOL.  

I may not understand your question; if you are asking what is the benefit for you personally; none at this time since you can find a few blocks a day, it doesn't make much difference to you at this time.

But if we were solo mining feather, with a 100 difficulty, you would not get anything for 15-30 days; at that point the pool would come in handy, because the lookback would be 60 days (its dynamic), and members of the pool would be paid every time any other member of the pool finds a block, making regular payments would satisfy some miners as they go - if we had a high difficulty like that.

Rob H.

Ok, let me try to explain my question better:

When I normally join a pool, let's say I am joining for a coin which has a difficulty of 500. When I mine at that pool I submit shares that are a target difficulty of 16 (NOT a difficulty of 500).

Every round when a block of difficulty 500 is found they compare how many difficulty 16 shares I have submitted and pay me based on a ratio of my difficulty 16 shares as compared to the total of difficulty 16 shares.



Now, let's say Gridcoin's real difficulty is 500. When I join Gridcoin's pool, I am still mining at difficulty 500 which means I am NOT submitting shares, I am only solving blocks.

HOW am I EVER going to get paid from the pool when there are no shares being submitted...?

Have you found a block yet since you started pool mining?  I believe it doesn't kick in until you find a block, but then you get a portion of all blocks that are found from the pool (anyone with poolmining=true).  That is the advantage, not the change in difficulty.  You will not have pseudo-share difficulty like traditional pools. 



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 18, 2013, 06:05:53 PM
If difficulty is 500 and everyone in the pool is cpu mining, then pretty much no one will find any blocks? Am I understanding this correctly?  ???

No there is no difference in difficulty; if there was everyone would want to pool mine to get something for nothing. LOL.  

I may not understand your question; if you are asking what is the benefit for you personally; none at this time since you can find a few blocks a day, it doesn't make much difference to you at this time.

But if we were solo mining feather, with a 100 difficulty, you would not get anything for 15-30 days; at that point the pool would come in handy, because the lookback would be 60 days (its dynamic), and members of the pool would be paid every time any other member of the pool finds a block, making regular payments would satisfy some miners as they go - if we had a high difficulty like that.

Rob H.

Ok, let me try to explain my question better:

When I normally join a pool, let's say I am joining for a coin which has a difficulty of 500. When I mine at that pool I submit shares that are a target difficulty of 16 (NOT a difficulty of 500).

Every round when a block of difficulty 500 is found they compare how many difficulty 16 shares I have submitted and pay me based on a ratio of my difficulty 16 shares as compared to the total of difficulty 16 shares.



Now, let's say Gridcoin's real difficulty is 500. When I join Gridcoin's pool, I am still mining at difficulty 500 which means I am NOT submitting shares, I am only solving blocks.

HOW am I EVER going to get paid from the pool when there are no shares being submitted...?

Have you found a block yet since you started pool mining?  I believe it doesn't kick in until you find a block, but then you get a portion of all blocks that are found from the pool (anyone with poolmining=true).  That is the advantage, not the change in difficulty.  You will not have pseudo-share difficulty like traditional pools.  




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 18, 2013, 06:38:45 PM
Have you found a block yet since you started pool mining?  I believe it doesn't kick in until you find a block, but then you get a portion of all blocks that are found from the pool (anyone with poolmining=true).  That is the advantage, not the change in difficulty.  You will not have pseudo-share difficulty like traditional pools. 

Ah, I see... So everyone in the pool gets an equal share of the blocks found by the pool, but first you must find a block and you must  also find a block often enough to be kept in the lookback period... Now I understand, thank you!

If difficulty is 500 and everyone in the pool is cpu mining, then pretty much no one will find any blocks? Am I understanding this correctly?  ???

It's to my understanding that the pool is for gpu mining. Cpu mining is done differently: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1922-cpu-mining-tutorialtopic/



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 18, 2013, 08:23:32 PM
Have you found a block yet since you started pool mining?  I believe it doesn't kick in until you find a block, but then you get a portion of all blocks that are found from the pool (anyone with poolmining=true).  That is the advantage, not the change in difficulty.  You will not have pseudo-share difficulty like traditional pools. 

Ah, I see... So everyone in the pool gets an equal share of the blocks found by the pool, but first you must find a block and you must  also find a block often enough to be kept in the lookback period... Now I understand, thank you!

If difficulty is 500 and everyone in the pool is cpu mining, then pretty much no one will find any blocks? Am I understanding this correctly?  ???

It's to my understanding that the pool is for gpu mining. Cpu mining is done differently: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1922-cpu-mining-tutorialtopic/


Yes you got it, the integrated pool is for gpu mining, and yes you have to find a block first before getting payments, and you keep getting paid even after you stop pool mining until the period is over; and you do get paid by other miners who find blocks, that's why you get about 30 payments a day at this current difficulty.

The RBPPS in other pools is about the same except pools commonly keep about 3% for overhead while we are free and your main risk is submitting stale shares.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 18, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Did something change with the system yesterday? I used to get .3 to 1.2 gridcoins every 30 minutes or so.
In the last 24 hours I mined 7500, at my 106 KHash rate.

I can't complain about my sudden good fortune but this is nuts! :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 18, 2013, 11:06:18 PM
sounds like a fork to me. you need to restart your gridcoin client.

Did something change with the system yesterday? I used to get .3 to 1.2 gridcoins every 30 minutes or so.
In the last 24 hours I mined 7500, at my 106 KHash rate.

I can't complain about my sudden good fortune but this is nuts! :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 18, 2013, 11:11:58 PM
I've done that several times. I usually restart the client every hour or two to make sure it's in sync, since it was always stalling before.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 19, 2013, 12:13:15 AM
If you fork what you need to do is delete the blocks and chainstate folders in your \AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin folder. And relaunch the client.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: statdude on December 19, 2013, 12:41:36 AM
How many grid coins exist so far?



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 19, 2013, 12:45:54 AM
Less than 5051250.

There are 33675 blocks when I wrote this, but the thing is the reward goes from 5 - 150 GRC. 5 GRC if the person who finds the block isn't running BOINC, and 6 - 150 depending if BOINC utilization is at 100% when block is found. Usually that amount is 150 though. But yea, there have been a lot of blocks found with less than a 150 reward though, and the 5051250 amount is granted that each reward was 150 GRC


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 19, 2013, 01:13:07 AM
Damn. It *was* too good to be true. All 7500 coins gone :(


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 19, 2013, 01:20:33 AM
If a fork creates useless coins how exactly do they get confirmations? I could see the confirmations counting down on the coins, and then the maturity countdown. It's essentially showing them as valid even though they were garbage once a new sync was performed.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 19, 2013, 01:45:08 AM
If a fork creates useless coins how exactly do they get confirmations? I could see the confirmations counting down on the coins, and then the maturity countdown. It's essentially showing them as valid even though they were garbage once a new sync was performed.

It's happened to me a few times as well lol, so I know how you feel seeing them all disappear. And they show up as getting confirmed because when you get forked, the forked chain becomes the "real" chain, so each time you find a new block, it confirms the previous ones. It's totally unaware that it's on the wrong chain so it goes on as normal.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 19, 2013, 03:56:52 AM
Interesting. I wish I had some beer so I could cry in it. :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: prins on December 19, 2013, 04:10:18 AM
any word/news on pool mining w/o having to find a block first?
i mean the concept of the coin is still good but this keeps ppl away and when difficulty rises it will become impossible for new miners to solo mine and join the pool.
There needs to come a solution for this..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: johnatx on December 19, 2013, 04:37:35 AM
Traderman and others,

I think some of us may have signed up with BOINC projects listed on the "User ID Management" tab in the mining console.
I did that (Malaria Control and Rosetta) just to be sure and followed cpu mining instruction.

Maybe we can have a consistent "Gridcoin" team for all of these projects and sum up them up in total.
In the end, we can publish all the BOINC credits on a weekly basis the "Gridcoin" team contributed, not limited to the World Community Grid.
Overall, it will be a very good Ad campaign for Gridcoin and its applications.

John


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 19, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
Yes that is not a bad idea.

Traderman and others,

I think some of us may have signed up with BOINC projects listed on the "User ID Management" tab in the mining console.
I did that (Malaria Control and Rosetta) just to be sure and followed cpu mining instruction.

Maybe we can have a consistent "Gridcoin" team for all of these projects and sum up them up in total.
In the end, we can publish all the BOINC credits on a weekly basis the "Gridcoin" team contributed, not limited to the World Community Grid.
Overall, it will be a very good Ad campaign for Gridcoin and its applications.

John


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 20, 2013, 12:12:03 AM
any word/news on pool mining w/o having to find a block first?
i mean the concept of the coin is still good but this keeps ppl away and when difficulty rises it will become impossible for new miners to solo mine and join the pool.
There needs to come a solution for this..
Hi Prins,

I think we are good for a whole year; finding a block with a slow card isn't a problem until our difficulty reaches 20 and that's a long ways away.  

Remember as difficulty rises you stay in the pool longer to keep receiving payments.


Thanks,
Grid
 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Viperbass on December 20, 2013, 03:19:01 PM
Hey Guys,

Hopefully someone can help out, I keep getting the following error with 18 hrs still to sync when using gridcoin-qt for the 1st time.

Gridcoin-Qt(OSS GUI Client for Gridcoin) has stopped working...

Anyone had this before?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 20, 2013, 03:21:28 PM
need to specify boinc install folder and boinc data folder in gridcoin.conf .
Hey Guys,

Hopefully someone can help out, I keep getting the following error with 18 hrs still to sync when using gridcoin-qt for the 1st time.

Gridcoin-Qt(OSS GUI Client for Gridcoin) has stopped working...

Anyone had this before?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Viperbass on December 20, 2013, 03:58:51 PM
need to specify boinc install folder and boinc data folder in gridcoin.conf .
Hey Guys,

Hopefully someone can help out, I keep getting the following error with 18 hrs still to sync when using gridcoin-qt for the 1st time.

Gridcoin-Qt(OSS GUI Client for Gridcoin) has stopped working...

Anyone had this before?

Hey Trader, sent you a PM.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 20, 2013, 04:57:35 PM
Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go the better!

Join Today!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Sp1k4h on December 20, 2013, 08:08:20 PM
Joined the team with my 3930k powah! :X


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 20, 2013, 08:19:43 PM
All,

Due to the syncing issues some people are still having and to the discovery that port 9778 (Gridcoins Node port) is used by apple updates and one virus, we are going to globally change Gridcoins port tomorrow at 1PM CST to port 32760 (the highest unused non-ephemeral port). This requires an update to the client so it will require either an "upgrade" (if you are running the latest beta) or a re-load from the MSI.

I just wanted to let everyone know in advance.

We have one developer working on finding the sync problem in parallel in case this does not fix it but we want to try to isolate the problem.

Thanks!

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 20, 2013, 08:29:11 PM
Bravo ! :)

Joined the team with my 3930k powah! :X


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 20, 2013, 08:30:36 PM
All,

Due to the syncing issues some people are still having and to the discovery that port 9778 (Gridcoins Node port) is used by apple updates and one virus, we are going to globally change Gridcoins port tomorrow at 1PM CST to port 32760 (the highest unused non-ephemeral port). This requires an update to the client so it will require either an "upgrade" (if you are running the latest beta) or a re-load from the MSI.

I just wanted to let everyone know in advance.

We have one developer working on finding the sync problem in parallel in case this does not fix it but we want to try to isolate the problem.

Thanks!

Grid


Sounds good!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on December 21, 2013, 07:29:04 AM
Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go the better!

Join Today!

Bye bye RippleLabs...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 21, 2013, 05:25:32 PM
90 minutes to global upgrade, right...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 21, 2013, 05:29:15 PM
90 minutes to global upgrade, right...?
Hi Bob,

45 more minutes and I'll put out a new version.

Thanks,
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 21, 2013, 05:30:04 PM
90 minutes to global upgrade, right...?
Hi Bob,

45 more minutes and I'll put out a new version.

Thanks,
Grid


Awesome, thanks for the heads-up!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Conqueror on December 21, 2013, 05:57:23 PM
I just wanted to let everyone know in advance.

In wallet messages, please, Jesus....


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 21, 2013, 06:32:46 PM
Soooo, should we be upgrading yet...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 21, 2013, 06:40:44 PM
The new version is available using the new port number:

Gridcoin 1.1.4.2 - 5.7.8 release notes:


1) Changed the global production node port for Gridcoin to 32760.
2) Changed the Testnet port to 32759.
3) To find a solution to support an integrated miner from an IT standpoint
and new user standpoint that will allow us to implement scrypt-sleep,
enable/disable gpus, change intensity, support multiple card platforms,
configure cards with thread concurrencies > 8192, we added support for CGMiner and the CGMiner API.

The CGMiner-api allows us to do all this and provides comm for GUI status updates.

Step by step instructions to configure CGMiner integrated with GridCoin:

(Note if you were running the beta version with gridcoinminer, bring up each instance and change the settings to
cgminers settings and re-save the records).
a. Launch gridcoin.  Click on the mining console.  Click on "Configuration".
b. You should see a list of available cards.  Select one of your GPU cards.
c. Check the Load Defaults dropdown to see if your card is available.  If it is, select
the item and the defaults will populate.  If not type in the values from guiminer.
Check Enabled if you would like that card to be enabled.
Click Save.
For each new card, we will create a cgminer directory in ~AppData\CgminerX\ (where X is the instance ID from 0-5).
Click 'Create CG Miner instance' and the program will copy the necessary cgminer files to the proper place and will
create a cgminer config file.
Yes, you may modify this "cgmX" file with additional settings such as
GPU overdriving, overclocking mem, fan settings etc.
One thing to note is gridcoin automatically enables the
API port in the configuration file starting with port 4000 (for device 0) for the local machine only (for security reasons).

If you are a power user and you overwrite the cgminer subdirectory with your own cgminer folder, you will
need to add these two settings back into your cgmX configuration file, otherwise Gridcoin will not communicate with cgminer.
Continue steps b-c until all cards are configured.
Close the Miner Settings window.
Click Restart Miner and allow time for cgminer to compile all of the kernels.
After this, you should be able to mine with the integrated cgminer-api inside gridcoin.

d. If gridcoin detects a guiminer folder, it will still attempt to use it and send focus to the guiminer tab.
e. If gridcoin detects "enabled" cgminer instances, focus will be sent there.
f. To disable guiminer, rename the folder to "guiminer_old" (or anything other than guiminer), and gridcoin will ignore it.
g. Gridcoin now has a command line interface in the mining module to send commands to cgminers api (for advanced users).
  Once mining, and your hashrates are above zero, you can type:
  summary 0 (where 0 is the cgminer instance id) and receive results; etc.
h. The Full Speed checkbox will allow you to toggle the CGMiner speed from 60% to 100%.
i. The Mining Enabled Checkbox will disable cgminer and re-enable cgminer.
j. Note: The Kh/S rates are cgminers "Mh/S Avg", and at this time we are not yet accessing the "Mh/S Current"
  so you may see a slow decline in hash rates when you make changes.  
  If you restart the miners, the changes will be isntant.



k. You may still use any scrypt compatible miner with Gridcoin as usual, and sleep is not implemented.


4.  Homogenized Reward Calculation :

The calculation was modified to put 50% weight on the "Boinc Avg Daily Credits" (as shown in the GUI) to
put more weight on the Berkeley PoW earned by projects.

50% of the weight goes to the processor/memory utilization under the old formula.
50% of the weight goes to the daily avg_credits accumulated over a 30 day period.

If your current avg_credits are above 3000, they are capped @ 3000 per day.
The credits are divided by 10 to arrive at a number between 0-300.  This number is then averaged into the utilization above to arrive at the 5-150 grc reward.
A few examples of the new calculation:

100% processor/memory used by boinc + 1000 avg daily credits = Boinc Utilization (100 +  100 (/2) = 100) = 150 grc  
100% proc/mem utilization by boinc + 500 avg daily credits = Boinc Utilization (100 + 50     (/2) = 75)  = 112.5 grc
50% proc/memory utilization by boinc + 1000 Avg Daily Credits = Boinc Utilization (50+100(/2)=75) = 112.5 grc
50% proc/memory utilization by boinc + 500 avg daily credits = Boinc Utilization (50+50)/2 = 50 = 75 grc.

5. HouseCleaning error is fixed.
6. Rebuild Block Chain button (from the beta version) still available.
7. Moved the Mh/S chart into the cgminer area.
8. Seed node updates: www.gridcoin.us has been updated to use port 32760.
a. If you are a seed node, please update your router passthrough port from 9778 to 32760.


9. For this update, please install from the gridcoin.msi from:
http://www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi
(new files exist, therefore 'upgrade' will not work).
 As usual, unblock the download, save it, run as admin.
 If you discover the mining module is missing, relaunch the MSI and click repair (not likely).


All the best, and good luck!

Grid



PS - The bitcoin "in wallet message" is enabled; has not been tested; A supermajority must upgrade to this version before we can tell if it worked :)......

A user asked about uninstalling the old version first:
Please delete c:\program files (x86)\gridcoin\*.*
You may leave AppData files in place, no need to delete the blocks or database unless you have syncing issues in the future.

No need to change the port in the gridcoin.conf, this node port is compiled into the program.
 




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: 360998186 on December 21, 2013, 06:41:21 PM
maybe a good idea


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 21, 2013, 07:23:49 PM
I followed all the steps for the integrated cgminer but am getting this error:
Code:
Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
  Application Name: cgminer.exe
  Application Version: 0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp: 517d4469
  Fault Module Name: cgminer.exe
  Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
  Fault Module Timestamp: 517d4469
  Exception Code: c0000005
  Exception Offset: 000266be
  OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
  Locale ID: 1033
  Additional Information 1: 0a9e
  Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
  Additional Information 3: 0a9e
  Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789


Here is my cgminer0.conf:
Code:
{
  "pools" : [
      {
          "url" : "http://127.0.0.1:2703/",
          "user" : "c4n10",
          "pass" : "1ritchchinobi"
  }
],
"api-listen" : true,
"api-port" : "4000",
"api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1",
"intensity" : "18",
"vectors" : "1",
"worksize" : "256",
"kernel" : "scrypt",
"scrypt" : true,
"lookup-gap" : "2",
"thread-concurrency" : "8000",
"gpu-engine" : "875",
"gpu-memclock" : "1250",
"temp-cutoff" : "80",
"temp-overheat" : "70",
"temp-target" : "60",
"gpu-fan" : "100",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"device" : "0"
}

Usually I launch cgminer with:
Code:
cgminer --scrypt -o http://127.0.0.1:2703 -u MyUser -p MyPass --thread-concurrency 8000 -I 18 -g 1 -w 256 --gpu-engine 875 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-fan 100

Any help is greatly appreciated!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 21, 2013, 07:34:37 PM
I followed all the steps for the integrated cgminer but am getting this error:
Code:
Problem signature:
  Problem Event  "pools" : ["gpu-platform" : "0",
"device" : "0"
}

Usually I launch cgminer with:
Code:
cgminer --scrypt -o http://127.0.0.1:2703 -u MyUser -p MyPass --thread-concurrency 8000 -I 18 -g 1 -w 256 --gpu-engine 875 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-fan 100

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Bob,
Try going to the command line and cd into the cgminer0 folder, and launch the cgminer.exe the way you normally do to isolate it, to see if its the cgminer settings or the cgminer.exe.
If that doesn't work, re-execute cgminer 10 times from the command line (there is a known bug that cgminer sometimes will not run the first time while compiling new video kernels).
Use the command:
cgminer -c cgm0
to re-execute 10 times (that launches it with the gridcoin cgm0 config file).
If that doesn't work, try to copy your cgminer.exe that does work into the cgminer0 folder, and try again, since that obviously works, once it is working, it should then work from Gridcoin.

Good luck,
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 21, 2013, 07:58:39 PM
Bob,
Try going to the command line and cd into the cgminer0 folder, and launch the cgminer.exe the way you normally do to isolate it, to see if its the cgminer settings or the cgminer.exe.
If that doesn't work, re-execute cgminer 10 times from the command line (there is a known bug that cgminer sometimes will not run the first time while compiling new video kernels).
Use the command:
cgminer -c cgm0
to re-execute 10 times (that launches it with the gridcoin cgm0 config file).
If that doesn't work, try to copy your cgminer.exe that does work into the cgminer0 folder, and try again, since that obviously works, once it is working, it should then work from Gridcoin.

Good luck,
Grid

Ok, I tried launching many times from command line, no dice.

I tried copying my cgminer.exe (which is from a different version) and got "missing libcurl-4.dll" error, copied libcurl-4.dll into the folder, re-launched and now get "--scrypt : unrecognized option".

I tried downloading the same version of cgminer used in Gridcoin (version 3.1.0) and tried copying over the exe from that version and get the exact same error as when I use the exe packaged with Gridcoin...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 21, 2013, 08:05:57 PM
Bob,
Try going to the command line and cd into the cgminer0 folder, and launch the cgminer.exe the way you normally do to isolate it, to see if its the cgminer settings or the cgminer.exe.
If that doesn't work, re-execute cgminer 10 times from the command line (there is a known bug that cgminer sometimes will not run the first time while compiling new video kernels).
Use the command:
cgminer -c cgm0
to re-execute 10 times (that launches it with the gridcoin cgm0 config file).
If that doesn't work, try to copy your cgminer.exe that does work into the cgminer0 folder, and try again, since that obviously works, once it is working, it should then work from Gridcoin.

Good luck,
Grid

Ok, I tried launching many times from command line, no dice.

I tried copying my cgminer.exe (which is from a different version) and got "missing libcurl-4.dll" error, copied libcurl-4.dll into the folder, re-launched and now get "--scrypt : unrecognized option".

I tried downloading the same version of cgminer used in Gridcoin (version 3.1.0) and tried copying over the exe from that version and get the exact same error as when I use the exe packaged with Gridcoin...
For now as a stopgap, find your working cgminer folder, and copy the .dll's and the .exe from there into cgminer0, but keep the cgm0 config file, and then it should start using the curl version that other exe likes :)

Good luck,
Rob H.

This might be a 64-bit or 32-bit issue;


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 21, 2013, 08:22:40 PM
For now as a stopgap, find your working cgminer folder, and copy the .dll's and the .exe from there into cgminer0, but keep the cgm0 config file, and then it should start using the curl version that other exe likes :)

Good luck,
Rob H.

This might be a 64-bit or 32-bit issue;

It seems that when I use the dll's/exe from my older version (2.10.4) it works just fine but if I copy the files from your version (3.1.0) or the latest version (3.8.5) it does not work... Strange...

But for now, I have it working with my older version of cgminer.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 21, 2013, 08:55:29 PM
Hmmm, I can't seem to get the settings quite right, when I run cgminer from inside gridcoin I get a LOT more lag than what I am used to.

I will have to see if I can find a sample config file for the HD 5870 that I can use instead of trying to convert my command line options into a viable config file...

I will mess with that later, for now I am just going to use my cgminer externally...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 21, 2013, 10:38:30 PM

It seems that when I use the dll's/exe from my older version (2.10.4) it works just fine but if I copy the files from your version (3.1.0) or the latest version (3.8.5) it does not work... Strange...

But for now, I have it working with my older version of cgminer.

Support for scrypt mining stopped after cgminer version 3.7.2. Latest versions such as 3.8.5 are for BTC mining only.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 21, 2013, 11:42:32 PM
The new version is available



I'm trying Gridcoin for the first time - stumbled onto this thread and was keen to try it out since I'm a regular user of both BOINC and crypto. I casually ran qt from the msi download and it instantly terminated the two command line instances of cgminer I was running at the time (one of 3.7.2 for LTC and one of 3.8.5 for BTC). Oops - not a good time to be casual.

I started over more carefully, but some 30 minutes into what I thought would be a routine run to update the blockchain I'm still seeing "No block source available" and "nine weeks behind" and "0 active connections to Gridcoin network". Is this delay normal? Am I  just spoiled by the relatively quick connections with LTC and BTC? Have I overlooked something obvious?

I'm using Win7 64, and I stopped all instances of cgminer (and BOINC) before the present run.

Thanks for any advice.
 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 22, 2013, 12:42:53 AM
The new version is available



I'm trying Gridcoin for the first time - stumbled onto this thread and was keen to try it out since I'm a regular user of both BOINC and crypto. I casually ran qt from the msi download and it instantly terminated the two command line instances of cgminer I was running at the time (one of 3.7.2 for LTC and one of 3.8.5 for BTC). Oops - not a good time to be casual.

I started over more carefully, but some 30 minutes into what I thought would be a routine run to update the blockchain I'm still seeing "No block source available" and "nine weeks behind" and "0 active connections to Gridcoin network". Is this delay normal? Am I  just spoiled by the relatively quick connections with LTC and BTC? Have I overlooked something obvious?

I'm using Win7 64, and I stopped all instances of cgminer (and BOINC) before the present run.

Thanks for any advice.

Try this in your gridcoin.conf (specifically the addnodes):
Code:
rpcuser=YourUsername
rpcpassword=YourPassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
server=1
poolmining=false
addnode=98.114.181.178
addnode=76.187.184.27
addnode=66.187.94.194
addnode=76.74.177.224
addnode=84.125.196.167
addnode=71.233.139.62
addnode=72.92.48.105


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 22, 2013, 12:51:40 AM
The new version is available



I'm trying Gridcoin for the first time - stumbled onto this thread and was keen to try it out since I'm a regular user of both BOINC and crypto. I casually ran qt from the msi download and it instantly terminated the two command line instances of cgminer I was running at the time (one of 3.7.2 for LTC and one of 3.8.5 for BTC). Oops - not a good time to be casual.

I started over more carefully, but some 30 minutes into what I thought would be a routine run to update the blockchain I'm still seeing "No block source available" and "nine weeks behind" and "0 active connections to Gridcoin network". Is this delay normal? Am I  just spoiled by the relatively quick connections with LTC and BTC? Have I overlooked something obvious?

I'm using Win7 64, and I stopped all instances of cgminer (and BOINC) before the present run.

Thanks for any advice.

Try this in your gridcoin.conf (specifically the addnodes):
Code:
rpcuser=YourUsername
rpcpassword=YourPassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
server=1
poolmining=false
addnode=98.114.181.178
addnode=76.187.184.27
addnode=66.187.94.194
addnode=76.74.177.224
addnode=84.125.196.167
addnode=71.233.139.62
addnode=72.92.48.105

Thanks - I'll check it out (suppressing twitches at direct addys). Gotta really pay attention now.        :)

Edit: your advice worked - thanks again. I found a few other issues afterwards but things generally seem to be working now. I'll try optimizing my 7970 next - it's pretty slow with the basic settings, and with the "Full Speed" button clicked it brings my Core i7 to its knees for the first time in its sheltered life - multi-second delays just to move the cursor across the screen. Fun to work on, actually.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 22, 2013, 01:04:17 AM
The new version is available



I'm trying Gridcoin for the first time - stumbled onto this thread and was keen to try it out since I'm a regular user of both BOINC and crypto. I casually ran qt from the msi download and it instantly terminated the two command line instances of cgminer I was running at the time (one of 3.7.2 for LTC and one of 3.8.5 for BTC). Oops - not a good time to be casual.

I started over more carefully, but some 30 minutes into what I thought would be a routine run to update the blockchain I'm still seeing "No block source available" and "nine weeks behind" and "0 active connections to Gridcoin network". Is this delay normal? Am I  just spoiled by the relatively quick connections with LTC and BTC? Have I overlooked something obvious?

I'm using Win7 64, and I stopped all instances of cgminer (and BOINC) before the present run.

Thanks for any advice.

Try this in your gridcoin.conf (specifically the addnodes):
Code:
rpcuser=YourUsername
rpcpassword=YourPassword
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
server=1
poolmining=false
addnode=98.114.181.178
addnode=76.187.184.27
addnode=66.187.94.194
addnode=76.74.177.224
addnode=84.125.196.167
addnode=71.233.139.62
addnode=72.92.48.105

Thanks - I'll check it out (suppressing twitches at direct addys). Gotta really pay attention now.        :)

LOL, alternatively you could try just forwarding the listen port on your router (port 32760) which should also work.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: heretolearn on December 22, 2013, 02:23:47 PM
LOL, alternatively you could try just forwarding the listen port on your router (port 32760) which should also work.

What is the benefit of adding these nodes ?

And will the benefit work if i just portforward 32760 and do nothing else ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 22, 2013, 03:00:42 PM
LOL, alternatively you could try just forwarding the listen port on your router (port 32760) which should also work.

What is the benefit of adding these nodes ?

And will the benefit work if i just portforward 32760 and do nothing else ?
We do have a few seed volunteer nodes built in (seed.gridcoin.us) and that has been tested; so you should be able to sync without them, but it may help you if for some reason your client is not finding the network.

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: heretolearn on December 22, 2013, 03:07:06 PM
Oh thanks Rob H.,

So is there any advantage other than syncing ?

Btw I am having syncing issues .. block explorer is showing 35590 whereas my client is showing 35606 (more than block explorer !!). What should I do ?

Thanks


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 22, 2013, 03:34:45 PM
Oh thanks Rob H.,

So is there any advantage other than syncing ?

Btw I am having syncing issues .. block explorer is showing 35590 whereas my client is showing 35606 (more than block explorer !!). What should I do ?

Thanks

The block explorer has stalled, pay no attention to it for the moment...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: heretolearn on December 22, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
Oh thanks Rob H.,

So is there any advantage other than syncing ?

Btw I am having syncing issues .. block explorer is showing 35590 whereas my client is showing 35606 (more than block explorer !!). What should I do ?

Thanks

The block explorer has stalled, pay no attention to it for the moment...

Oh ok did not know about that. Thanks. I tried rebuilding the whole chain again and then the application just kept crashing ... this gets really annoying  :(

I hope these issues get sorted faster .. this is almost becoming a full time thing due to syncing issues !!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 22, 2013, 07:45:36 PM
I found the reason the explorer keeps stalling-- there is a limit of 4 connections hardcoded in the client, and each standalone cgminer (or guiminer) takes up 1.  If the threads aren't recycled quick enough, it receives a connection refused.  For one, I'm going to expand that to 16.  I also found some potential problems in the client (now that we know the port number has nothing to do with the problem).
I'm going to debug this for the rest of the night and will release a new version later tonight.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: joeykrug on December 22, 2013, 08:41:02 PM
Dear Rob,

I had been waiting and waiting for curecoin, came across gridcoin the other day and I love the idea and you guys seem like a competent dev team (while curecoin has been delayed months). So I started mining gridcoin and while you're bug fixing tonight, I noticed a bug. On my computer even though boinc CPU usage is over 90%. Gridcoin only says I'm using 50%. My mom wanted to mine gridcoin so I set it up on her computer too and she has the same bug. Have you heard of this happening before?  Otherwise, props, this idea of mining blocks while getting bonuses is a very interesting way of integrating boinc and dist. computing into the POW. Thank you!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 22, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
Dear Rob,

I had been waiting and waiting for curecoin, came across gridcoin the other day and I love the idea and you guys seem like a competent dev team (while curecoin has been delayed months). So I started mining gridcoin and while you're bug fixing tonight, I noticed a bug. On my computer even though boinc CPU usage is over 90%. Gridcoin only says I'm using 50%. My mom wanted to mine gridcoin so I set it up on her computer too and she has the same bug. Have you heard of this happening before?  Otherwise, props, this idea of mining blocks while getting bonuses is a very interesting way of integrating boinc and dist. computing into the POW. Thank you!

This probably has to do with the most recent update in which 50% of the weighting goes to the daily avg_credits accumulated over a 30 day period.  I believe it should go up as you continue on BOINC for a few days.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 12:04:40 AM
The latest client is available (1.1.4.3 - 5.7.9) http://www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi

Please download the MSI and do not use upgrade; this change required a change to the actual updater itself.
 
Changes:
1) The gridcoin-qt client : Not guaranteed to solve the sync issue, but we are hoping this is the problem.  The code had a hardcoded max inbound connection limit that was too low; has been doubled.  Also, the megahash protector had a bug in it that might have causes the net thread to stop; fixed.  We also modified the code that talks to foreign peers, thinking that the way it was, it was too easy for the client to talk to peers on foreign ports; this has been decreased.  I did confirm we were receiving closed connections when we exceeded a certain limit and confirmed this one issue is fixed.
2) Added a second explorer.gridcoin.us node for better stability.  It is now live and they both update the same database.
3) Added a snapshot feature to gridcoin in case #1 fails.  The client will make a snapshot of the chainstate/blocks folder in it's snapshot directory only if it can confirm the best block is equal to the network best block and both are > 100.  If so, a backup is made.
4) If the client finds it is out of sync with the network after 20 minutes, and it has a good snapshot, it will automatically replace the blocks/chainstate and restart and resync (this avoids an entire rebuild of the blockchain).  Tested.
5) There is a second debuglog debug2.log written to help find if #4 ever gets used or if #1 is fixed.
 
Good luck,
Rob Halford
 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 12:07:37 AM
Dear Rob,

I had been waiting and waiting for curecoin, came across gridcoin the other day and I love the idea and you guys seem like a competent dev team (while curecoin has been delayed months). So I started mining gridcoin and while you're bug fixing tonight, I noticed a bug. On my computer even though boinc CPU usage is over 90%. Gridcoin only says I'm using 50%. My mom wanted to mine gridcoin so I set it up on her computer too and she has the same bug. Have you heard of this happening before?  Otherwise, props, this idea of mining blocks while getting bonuses is a very interesting way of integrating boinc and dist. computing into the POW. Thank you!

This probably has to do with the most recent update in which 50% of the weighting goes to the daily avg_credits accumulated over a 30 day period.  I believe it should go up as you continue on BOINC for a few days.
Hi  Joe,
Yes, it's the new 50-50 weighting; you have to try to increase your boinc_avg_daily_credits.  I'm currently running world community grid, Docking@home, rosetta and malaria (known to be working well) but feel free to try other projects.

Good luck,
Rob H.


 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 23, 2013, 02:45:49 AM
I uninstalled then did the fresh install, went into my roaming folder and cleared out the old files except for my conf and wallet.
Now when it tries to sync it gets about 10 days away and then it says something about a block chain snapshot and starts syncing from 9 weeks all over again. It loops this repeatedly.

Any way to stop it?

edit: Is this because my slow internet takes 20 minutes or more to sync and the client thinks it has failed?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 23, 2013, 02:52:27 AM
I uninstalled then did the fresh install, went into my roaming folder and cleared out the old files except for my conf and wallet.
Now when it tries to sync it gets about 10 days away and then it says something about a block chain snapshot and starts syncing from 9 weeks all over again. It loops this repeatedly.

Any way to stop it?

edit: Is this because my slow internet takes 20 minutes or more to sync and the client thinks it has failed?

You can try this. Go back to the previous version you were using, let that sync, and then do a fresh install but don't delete the roaming folder files. When I upgraded I kept the old block and chainstate folders and it seems to be doing fine.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: COINPRADER on December 23, 2013, 03:13:31 AM
Team joined!

Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go the better!

Join Today!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 23, 2013, 03:17:38 AM
I would but I haven't been able to sync with the old versions at all for days. I'll just tough it out until another version comes along.

I uninstalled then did the fresh install, went into my roaming folder and cleared out the old files except for my conf and wallet.
Now when it tries to sync it gets about 10 days away and then it says something about a block chain snapshot and starts syncing from 9 weeks all over again. It loops this repeatedly.

Any way to stop it?

edit: Is this because my slow internet takes 20 minutes or more to sync and the client thinks it has failed?

You can try this. Go back to the previous version you were using, let that sync, and then do a fresh install but don't delete the roaming folder files. When I upgraded I kept the old block and chainstate folders and it seems to be doing fine.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 23, 2013, 03:22:19 AM
Great to have you on our team Coinprader. :)

Team joined!

Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go the better!

Join Today!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 23, 2013, 04:53:40 AM
Yay! After repeated tries and a reboot I finally got sync'd.

I installed the new cudaminer a few minutes ago and it's a huge performance boost. Up to 150 kh/s from 106 kh/s.
Definitely worth grabbing if you haven't already.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: heretolearn on December 23, 2013, 07:00:08 AM
Hi,

I need help urgently please .... my guiminer just closes after a few minutes !!
This did not happen before.

What should I do ? Please help I have been trying to troubleshoot it for the past 12 hours !!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: joeykrug on December 23, 2013, 07:44:48 AM
Hi,

I need help urgently please .... my guiminer just closes after a few minutes !!
This did not happen before.

What should I do ? Please help I have been trying to troubleshoot it for the past 12 hours !!

I've been having this issue as well.  Thought i got it fixed by having miner restart after every 20 min. but nope still does it.  Not sure why, only after latest update has it done it. 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: heretolearn on December 23, 2013, 08:10:12 AM
Hi,

I need help urgently please .... my guiminer just closes after a few minutes !!
This did not happen before.

What should I do ? Please help I have been trying to troubleshoot it for the past 12 hours !!

I've been having this issue as well.  Thought i got it fixed by having miner restart after every 20 min. but nope still does it.  Not sure why, only after latest update has it done it. 

Yes this required an urgent fix. Makes no sense keeping the computer on for such long periods and eventually ending up doing nothing - which is totally opposite to the idea of Gridcoin itself !!

@joeykrug how do you set it restart automatically ?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: heretolearn on December 23, 2013, 08:19:52 AM
Ok so I tried using cgminer from the command line instead of integrated one , now that too got stuck !! even when I type "getmininginfo" in the console it does not accept "Enter" key after that !! same as cgminer running in command prompt !! both are unresponsive ... so this in all probability must be the new version which is causing this !!

Honestly I am just getting fed up of this whole stuff .... I have invested about close to a $1000 in getting new equipment ... and as far as I see it : as of now it is going to waste !!

I soo want this project to succeed but we eventually keep running into mundane issues which are causing major problems in the community !!

Please Rob H., do something about this (maybe hire more people ?) ... I ask you in all earnesty.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: phazon307 on December 23, 2013, 08:24:16 AM
DO people not realize that all of these coins are just used to get the makers more btc? Pretty soon there is going to be so many that it's going to crash the internet with millions of blockchains. This is how it goes I make new coin get about 500 million of them get some people to start mining get it up on an exchange sell all my coins for btc and make a nice profit in a few months when I have traded all my coins I will abandon my purpose for making the coin as the purpose will be fulfilled. I understand the reasoning behind new coins because the difficulty has gotten so hi on the ones that are worth anything people are desperately hoping a new coin will give them the chance at what they missed out on that's why I went to Betacoin 11gh doesn't get you much with btc so I thought I would give another one a chance.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 23, 2013, 11:58:25 AM
is there any chance that cryptsy or something like that will add gridcoin on his market?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: NUFCrichard on December 23, 2013, 12:12:47 PM
DO people not realize that all of these coins are just used to get the makers more btc? Pretty soon there is going to be so many that it's going to crash the internet with millions of blockchains. This is how it goes I make new coin get about 500 million of them get some people to start mining get it up on an exchange sell all my coins for btc and make a nice profit in a few months when I have traded all my coins I will abandon my purpose for making the coin as the purpose will be fulfilled. I understand the reasoning behind new coins because the difficulty has gotten so hi on the ones that are worth anything people are desperately hoping a new coin will give them the chance at what they missed out on that's why I went to Betacoin 11gh doesn't get you much with btc so I thought I would give another one a chance.

We're all guilty, but it is getting crazy.  You even say tht beta coin is worth a go. The post after yours is just after a trade out opportunity too. I guess it's a very capitalist society in the alts forum, it's certainly a long way from the origins of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 23, 2013, 01:36:53 PM
Wow, Rob comes up with THE single most innovative alt-coin (perhaps even more innovative than Bitcoin itself IMHO) which is using a lot of BRAND NEW code (this is NOT a simple cut+paste clone) and all people can do is complain that there are a few bugs here and there or claim that he is simply trying to make himself some coin by just putting out another clone.

Understand this:

Rome was not built in a day. This coin has been out for just about a month and a half, it's bound to have some issues. At least we have a VERY active and VERY capable dev who is working on the situation.

Until YOU have sat at a command line painstakingly debugging code line by line for weeks at a time, you REALLY shouldn't complain.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Bram on December 23, 2013, 01:44:52 PM
Hello,

I installed the Gridcoin QT (5.79) and started, but it is not syncing with the network.
Any idea's?



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 23, 2013, 01:55:19 PM
Hello,

I installed the Gridcoin QT (5.79) and started, but it is not syncing with the network.
Any idea's?

Have you tried the other things already mentioned in this thread (i.e. forwarding the listening port, using the addnodes in your .conf)...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 23, 2013, 01:58:07 PM
For the newest version:

1) Delete "c:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin"
2) Rename "%AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin" to "Gridcoin Orig"
3) Download the latest version
4) Install the latest version
5) Copy wallet.dat and gridcoin.conf from "Gridcoin Orig"
6) Run the program, if everything works, you may delete "Gridcoin Orig"

This is EXACTLY what I did to update and it is working just fine for me.

Kudos Rob!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 23, 2013, 02:18:14 PM
I installed the new version about 12 hours ago and it seems to be working normally. It shows only one active connection to the network now, which seems a bit, um, sparse. It reports 36141 blocks of history and updates regularly.

I am trying to understand the BOINC projects panel in the client display. It seems to come preloaded with the names of five projects, a couple of which I sometimes use but have not been accepting tasks from in recent months. The WCG is not among them, and it happens to be the project I spend all my BOINC time on recently. Anyway, is this list customizable, and if so are there instructions for it somewhere that I have overlooked?

Also - the display shows BOINC utilization 50, thread count 6 (sometimes 7) and average daily credits zero, which I think I understand from reading previous posts here. It also shows BOINC MD5 as MD5Error and BOINC Khps as zero, which I don't understand. After about one day of running, the wallet balances are zero - from other posts I got the impression it might have found a block or three at this early stage. I'm not sure whether to look for errors or just wait a while.

Thanks for any suggestions!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 23, 2013, 02:28:09 PM
I installed the new version about 12 hours ago and it seems to be working normally. It shows only one active connection to the network now, which seems a bit, um, sparse. It reports 36141 blocks of history and updates regularly.

I am trying to understand the BOINC projects panel in the client display. It seems to come preloaded with the names of five projects, a couple of which I sometimes use but have not been accepting tasks from in recent months. The WCG is not among them, and it happens to be the project I spend all my BOINC time on recently. Anyway, is this list customizable, and if so are there instructions for it somewhere that I have overlooked?

Also - the display shows BOINC utilization 50, thread count 6 (sometimes 7) and average daily credits zero, which I think I understand from reading previous posts here. It also shows BOINC MD5 as MD5Error and BOINC Khps as zero, which I don't understand. After about one day of running, the wallet balances are zero - from other posts I got the impression it might have found a block or three at this early stage. I'm not sure whether to look for errors or just wait a while.

Thanks for any suggestions!

Do you have BOINC installed in the default location...? It sounds like your Gridcoin client is not communicating with the BOINC client.

If you have BOINC installed somewhere other than the default location you need to add the BOINC folder and BOINC data folder locations to your gridcoin.conf file.

I think someone mentioned the flags for that somewhere in the thread...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 23, 2013, 02:33:10 PM
People having issues with guiminer... do you have guiminer running inside the client or separately? I have it running inside the client's Mining Console and it hasn't given me a problem yet.

So if you're running it outside, do this to run it in the Mining Console. Just make a copy of your guiminer folder, and put it into your AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin folder and make sure its named guiminer.

If you're running it inside the client and it's giving you problems, have you tried executing it separately? I know when Gridcoin starts up, it closes any instances of guiminer already running but I think if you open guiminer while Gridcoin is already running it should be fine.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 23, 2013, 02:47:01 PM
People having issues with guiminer... do you have guiminer running inside the client or separately? I have it running inside the client's Mining Console and it hasn't given me a problem yet.

So if you're running it outside, do this to run it in the Mining Console. Just make a copy of your guiminer folder, and put it into your AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin folder and make sure its named guiminer.

If you're running it inside the client and it's giving you problems, have you tried executing it separately? I know when Gridcoin starts up, it closes any instances of guiminer already running but I think if you open guiminer while Gridcoin is already running it should be fine.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the external miners because my external instance of cgminer is crashing every 10 - 15 minutes, I'm sure Rob will have it figured out in no time once he sees the thread.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 23, 2013, 02:57:34 PM

Do you have BOINC installed in the default location...? It sounds like your Gridcoin client is not communicating with the BOINC client.


Good eye! That will be it. Thanks.

Edit: Page 14 seems to be the one - settings needed for boincappfolder and boincdatafolder in the gridcoin.conf file https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324118.msg3770250#msg3770250


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 23, 2013, 03:16:01 PM
I know when Gridcoin starts up, it closes any instances of guiminer already running but I think if you open guiminer while Gridcoin is already running it should be fine.

That seems to be the same for cgminer also. Gridcoin will close other instances of cgminer both when it starts up and when you shut it down. It's annoying at first, but easily worked around by starting Gridcoin first, then the other instances of cgminer and by remembering to restart the other instances if you want them but have to shut down Gridcoin for some reason.

Low priority fix request?       :)



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 05:03:36 PM
Anyone having trouble using guiminer or cgminer within gridcoin: for cgminer: disable the restartwallet with "restartwallet=0" in the config file, after gridcoin starts and cgminer starts click on Show CgMiner for each one and let it run.   I did reproduce the issue where gridcoin is closing cgminer; we will fix this asap.

If you are having problems with the integrated miner, review "scrypt mining litecoin" and then configure and run the miner outside of gridcoin; it is a good learning experience to understand how to scrypt mine.

Rob H.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: COINPRADER on December 23, 2013, 05:23:43 PM
I'm sure you checked, but is the sync issue related to pool mining?  This morning, my wallet stopped syncing after 6 hours, I restarted and no sync, I used the rebuild block chain and it did sync,  I mined for about an hour and started getting found blocks that were credited to me (I have been pool mining and I checked the getpoolmining mode and it was true).  First time the miner has given me the coins after a sync issue.  Of course they disappeared after yet another resync.  But it got me to thinking that no one else has implemented an in client pool miner (that I know of) so maybe...
Anyway - great work on the coin.  Love the concept!  It even got me to get BOINC going after a year hiatus.  I even joined the gridcoin team at world community grid!

FYI
I have the latest version (v1.1.4.3-g71-prod)
I use GUIminer inside the client - I have never been able to get CG miner to work with my system (repeated tries with different coins)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 23, 2013, 06:07:15 PM
I am trying to understand the BOINC projects panel in the client display. It seems to come preloaded with the names of five projects, a couple of which I sometimes use but have not been accepting tasks from in recent months. The WCG is not among them, and it happens to be the project I spend all my BOINC time on recently. Anyway, is this list customizable, and if so are there instructions for it somewhere that I have overlooked?

Please forgive my bumping this part of my earlier post. I'm still trying to make sense of the BOINC projects panel. I've found old tutorials, but they only show how to set up new BOINC project accounts (assuming that users are new to BOINC) and they refer only to project names hard-coded in the panel.

My situation differs somewhat. I've been using BOINC through BAM since 2009 and my projects were in place before I set up Gridcoin. I've found advice to add projects to the project panel but I've not found a way to do it. Also, the information I've seen advises replacing project IDs at each individual BOINC project home page with a Gridcoin payout addy. This seems onerous and would negate the advantage of dealing with BOINC projects through BAM. Does it really have to be like that or am I finding outdated advice?

In summary:

Is it necessary to use the project panel at all to mine Gridcoin and get credit for BOINC activity?

If so, is there an up-to-date tutorial link, especially one that shows how to enter pre-existing BOINC project data?

Is it really a requirement to enter a Gridcoin payout ID on each relevant BOINC project's home page? If so, explanation might make it a more palatable requirement.

Thanks - I'm getting there - I'm in the top 1% of BOINC users so I'd really like to help the Gridcoin effort.            :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 23, 2013, 06:19:14 PM
I am trying to understand the BOINC projects panel in the client display. It seems to come preloaded with the names of five projects, a couple of which I sometimes use but have not been accepting tasks from in recent months. The WCG is not among them, and it happens to be the project I spend all my BOINC time on recently. Anyway, is this list customizable, and if so are there instructions for it somewhere that I have overlooked?

In summary:

Is it necessary to use the project panel at all to mine Gridcoin and get credit for BOINC activity?

If so, is there an up-to-date tutorial link, especially one that shows how to enter pre-existing BOINC project data?

Is it really a requirement to enter a Gridcoin payout ID on each relevant BOINC project's home page? If so, explanation might make it a more palatable requirement.

Thanks - I'm getting there - I'm in the top 1% of BOINC users so I'd really like to help the Gridcoin effort.            :)

If it helps, I have never used the project panel in the wallet and things have worked correctly.  Have you mined a block yet? If so, are you getting a payout above 5 GRC?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 06:25:44 PM
Hey Everyone,
I'm not able to respond yet to the other posts, but I did reproduce the guiminer issue and the cgminer issue; we haven't changed it to not close cgminer during an exit yet; but a major bug was discovered
where we were closing guiminer and cgminer during certain periods when the window handle lost focus; completely causing problems; I just put out an emergency fix for that issue; just type

UPGRADE

from the RPC console; it appears to be fixed....

Good luck,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 23, 2013, 07:14:32 PM
is there any chance that cryptsy or something like that will add gridcoin on his market?


autoquote :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 07:41:04 PM
is there any chance that cryptsy or something like that will add gridcoin on his market?



Have not heard from cryptsy yet (we were hoping to solve the syncing problems first; on that note, we haven't tested the newest version for a full day yet so let's hope this latest version solved it)
BUT, I did receive an e-mail this morning from https://www.coins-e.com/ saying they are considering us for their exchange!

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 07:42:25 PM
Hey Everyone,
I'm not able to respond yet to the other posts, but I did reproduce the guiminer issue and the cgminer issue; we haven't changed it to not close cgminer during an exit yet; but a major bug was discovered
where we were closing guiminer and cgminer during certain periods when the window handle lost focus; completely causing problems; I just put out an emergency fix for that issue; just type

UPGRADE

from the RPC console; it appears to be fixed....

Good luck,
Rob H.

One other piece of info: I've been testing this new version for the last hour and mining seems to be working properly again; and also, TribalBob I think this fixes the sluggishness problem you experienced; that was related to the same issue (API talking to dead sockets causing a sluggishness in the UI).

Another known bug we'll be fixing ASAP:  If you make changes to the CgMiner configuration using gridcoin and press save, you have to re-export the settings with "Create New Instance" over again; we'll have to fix that; and you have to do it twice (the first time it closes cgminer - returns an error; second time works; redicules; will fix asap).  Just push it twice if you do that for now.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 07:52:02 PM
Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go the better!

Join Today!
I just joined your team!

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 08:03:03 PM
DO people not realize that all of these coins are just used to get the makers more btc? Pretty soon there is going to be so many that it's going to crash the internet with millions of blockchains. This is how it goes I make new coin get about 500 million of them get some people to start mining get it up on an exchange sell all my coins for btc and make a nice profit in a few months when I have traded all my coins I will abandon my purpose for making the coin as the purpose will be fulfilled. I understand the reasoning behind new coins because the difficulty has gotten so hi on the ones that are worth anything people are desperately hoping a new coin will give them the chance at what they missed out on that's why I went to Betacoin 11gh doesn't get you much with btc so I thought I would give another one a chance.
1) The coin wont support itself in the long term if it is not useful.  The exchange rate will eventually drop to zero and they will be removed; look at all the dead coins in the graveyard right now.  
So no one will keep paying for internet resources for something that is dead.
2) I don't think you can create a coin and fool people into buying it on an exchange if its not useful.  DOGEcoin is hugely popular because its novel for pet owners, but look at the exchange rate?  1 billion dogecoins for a bitcoin?  I don't think the Portland programmer is getting rich.  Besides if it gets pumped and dumped there will be no market to sell the coins for any bitcoins; this is baloney.
3) Gridcoin is in a different class than copy & paste altcoins.  The point is all these heat generating devices already exist; if we can put them to use for humanitarian causes and at the same time fight inflation, replace western union money transfer, and provide payment services for web sites then Gridcoin will be more useful than the average coin.  

Eventually the exchanges are going to dump useless coins and keep the top coins, and were going for one of the top 5.

One more thing, cryptographically speaking, we're going to add new features to store relational data in a new format that contains embedded PoW in the actual records so we can store anything in gridcoin.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 23, 2013, 08:09:30 PM
I am trying to understand the BOINC projects panel in the client display. It seems to come preloaded with the names of five projects, a couple of which I sometimes use but have not been accepting tasks from in recent months. The WCG is not among them, and it happens to be the project I spend all my BOINC time on recently. Anyway, is this list customizable, and if so are there instructions for it somewhere that I have overlooked?

In summary:

Is it necessary to use the project panel at all to mine Gridcoin and get credit for BOINC activity?

If so, is there an up-to-date tutorial link, especially one that shows how to enter pre-existing BOINC project data?

Is it really a requirement to enter a Gridcoin payout ID on each relevant BOINC project's home page? If so, explanation might make it a more palatable requirement.

Thanks - I'm getting there - I'm in the top 1% of BOINC users so I'd really like to help the Gridcoin effort.            :)

If it helps, I have never used the project panel in the wallet and things have worked correctly.  Have you mined a block yet? If so, are you getting a payout above 5 GRC?

Thanks, that's encouraging to see. No, I haven't mined a block yet so I'll keep watching. I got the Gridcoin/BOINC clients talking to each other on TribalBob's advice but that was just a couple of hours ago and then we got an hour-long power outage - big ice storm going on here - so I'll watch and wait for another day or so. My client display now says BOINC utilization 100, which seems promising.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
I installed the new version about 12 hours ago and it seems to be working normally. It shows only one active connection to the network now, which seems a bit, um, sparse. It reports 36141 blocks of history and updates regularly.

I am trying to understand the BOINC projects panel in the client display. It seems to come preloaded with the names of five projects, a couple of which I sometimes use but have not been accepting tasks from in recent months. The WCG is not among them, and it happens to be the project I spend all my BOINC time on recently. Anyway, is this list customizable, and if so are there instructions for it somewhere that I have overlooked?

Also - the display shows BOINC utilization 50, thread count 6 (sometimes 7) and average daily credits zero, which I think I understand from reading previous posts here. It also shows BOINC MD5 as MD5Error and BOINC Khps as zero, which I don't understand. After about one day of running, the wallet balances are zero - from other posts I got the impression it might have found a block or three at this early stage. I'm not sure whether to look for errors or just wait a while.

Thanks for any suggestions!
Hi AiGeezer,
The projects page is temporarily shelved until we know the syncing is over with and the small bugs are fixed.  You can add projects to boinc and receive avg_daily credits for any project; the idea behind the projects page is to bring cpu-only miners in and participate in gridcoin without a gpu; it opens up a lot of issues one being that GPU miners have to provide PoW info in the chain on a regular basis; and its a little too much to support at this stage; but still a viable idea.  One user will supposedly receive 150grc per day doing the cpu mining...  The feature is written but not ready to be turned on due to changes in the block payout structure ( a risk).

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 23, 2013, 08:13:03 PM
I installed the new version about 12 hours ago and it seems to be working normally. It shows only one active connection to the network now, which seems a bit, um, sparse. It reports 36141 blocks of history and updates regularly.

I am trying to understand the BOINC projects panel in the client display. It seems to come preloaded with the names of five projects, a couple of which I sometimes use but have not been accepting tasks from in recent months. The WCG is not among them, and it happens to be the project I spend all my BOINC time on recently. Anyway, is this list customizable, and if so are there instructions for it somewhere that I have overlooked?

Also - the display shows BOINC utilization 50, thread count 6 (sometimes 7) and average daily credits zero, which I think I understand from reading previous posts here. It also shows BOINC MD5 as MD5Error and BOINC Khps as zero, which I don't understand. After about one day of running, the wallet balances are zero - from other posts I got the impression it might have found a block or three at this early stage. I'm not sure whether to look for errors or just wait a while.

Thanks for any suggestions!
Hi AiGeezer,
The projects page is temporarily shelved until we know the syncing is over with and the small bugs are fixed.  You can add projects to boinc and receive avg_daily credits for any project; the idea behind the projects page is to bring cpu-only miners in and participate in gridcoin without a gpu; it opens up a lot of issues one being that GPU miners have to provide PoW info in the chain on a regular basis; and its a little too much to support at this stage; but still a viable idea.  One user will supposedly receive 150grc per day doing the cpu mining...  The feature is written but not ready to be turned on due to changes in the block payout structure ( a risk).

Rob H.


Ah so - that explains why I could only find tutorials about the projects page in the context of CPU mining. I thought I was overlooking something. Good luck with the feature in any case. Super concepts here.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 23, 2013, 08:17:10 PM
I'm sure you checked, but is the sync issue related to pool mining?  This morning, my wallet stopped syncing after 6 hours, I restarted and no sync, I used the rebuild block chain and it did sync,  I mined for about an hour and started getting found blocks that were credited to me (I have been pool mining and I checked the getpoolmining mode and it was true).  First time the miner has given me the coins after a sync issue.  Of course they disappeared after yet another resync.  But it got me to thinking that no one else has implemented an in client pool miner (that I know of) so maybe...
Anyway - great work on the coin.  Love the concept!  It even got me to get BOINC going after a year hiatus.  I even joined the gridcoin team at world community grid!

FYI
I have the latest version (v1.1.4.3-g71-prod)
I use GUIminer inside the client - I have never been able to get CG miner to work with my system (repeated tries with different coins)

CoinPrader,
Great glad you are getting close.  There are about 33 pool miners and I haven't heard this specific problem; I have a fear that if a pool miner creates a stale block, something strange might be happening.  Can you do me a favor--- keep testing with the newest version as some things have been fixed that happen after you mine a block that may change the behavior.  Tell me if you fail to sync now in pool mining mode after finding blocks; ensure restartwallet=0 so you can tell; if it happens, PM me the end of the debug log.

Also, why don't you give the new cgminer version a try, it would be interesting to know if the defaults work for you.  I set them up for 4 machines today and all are working with 3 types of cards.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 23, 2013, 08:24:26 PM
is there any chance that cryptsy or something like that will add gridcoin on his market?



Have not heard from cryptsy yet (we were hoping to solve the syncing problems first; on that note, we haven't tested the newest version for a full day yet so let's hope this latest version solved it)
BUT, I did receive an e-mail this morning from https://www.coins-e.com/ saying they are considering us for their exchange!

Rob H.


wonderfull!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 23, 2013, 08:38:32 PM
That is very good news.

is there any chance that cryptsy or something like that will add gridcoin on his market?



Have not heard from cryptsy yet (we were hoping to solve the syncing problems first; on that note, we haven't tested the newest version for a full day yet so let's hope this latest version solved it)
BUT, I did receive an e-mail this morning from https://www.coins-e.com/ saying they are considering us for their exchange!

Rob H.


wonderfull!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 23, 2013, 09:39:27 PM
That is very good news.

is there any chance that cryptsy or something like that will add gridcoin on his market?



Have not heard from cryptsy yet (we were hoping to solve the syncing problems first; on that note, we haven't tested the newest version for a full day yet so let's hope this latest version solved it)
BUT, I did receive an e-mail this morning from https://www.coins-e.com/ saying they are considering us for their exchange!

Rob H.


wonderfull!
Excellent!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: COINPRADER on December 23, 2013, 11:07:55 PM
I'm sure you checked, but is the sync issue related to pool mining?  This morning, my wallet stopped syncing after 6 hours, I restarted and no sync, I used the rebuild block chain and it did sync,  I mined for about an hour and started getting found blocks that were credited to me (I have been pool mining and I checked the getpoolmining mode and it was true).  First time the miner has given me the coins after a sync issue.  Of course they disappeared after yet another resync.  But it got me to thinking that no one else has implemented an in client pool miner (that I know of) so maybe...
Anyway - great work on the coin.  Love the concept!  It even got me to get BOINC going after a year hiatus.  I even joined the gridcoin team at world community grid!

FYI
I have the latest version (v1.1.4.3-g71-prod)
I use GUIminer inside the client - I have never been able to get CG miner to work with my system (repeated tries with different coins)

CoinPrader,
Great glad you are getting close.  There are about 33 pool miners and I haven't heard this specific problem; I have a fear that if a pool miner creates a stale block, something strange might be happening.  Can you do me a favor--- keep testing with the newest version as some things have been fixed that happen after you mine a block that may change the behavior.  Tell me if you fail to sync now in pool mining mode after finding blocks; ensure restartwallet=0 so you can tell; if it happens, PM me the end of the debug log.

Also, why don't you give the new cgminer version a try, it would be interesting to know if the defaults work for you.  I set them up for 4 machines today and all are working with 3 types of cards.

Rob H.


I will keep testing this - just got a stale share and I lost sync within 3 units.  I had not added the restartwallet=0 so I will wait to send you the debug results.
I will try the cgminer again and let you know.
But for now, it's off to holiday with the family so no new mining for me - catch you all after the season!
Ed


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 23, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
Possible bug in Mining Module window (is it OK to report this kind of thing here?). I was checking the "close miner" and "restart miner" button functions. My miner had been running at half-speed (Full Speed box unchecked) because at full speed my cursor barely responds to mouse movements. Close and Restart worked fine, but after the miner restarted, the GPU miner was clearly running at full speed, even though the box remained unchecked. Clicking it twice - on then off - took it back to half speed. I imagine it should come back on restart to whatever speed it was set to when it closed.

The reason I was trying those buttons is that they appeared to parallel the old "Register Mining Module" button pair mentioned in this outdated tutorial: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1589-how-to-mine-gridcoin/

Since I have not yet found a block, I was idly checking to see whether I needed to register the miner somehow. I'm still wondering about that part.     :)

Oh - I was not able to get the UPGRADE to work yet, so this is still the pre-upgrade version. I have not used the RPC console before and my attempts to press Enter after keying the UPGRADE command were ignored - presumably there's something else needed or syntax details I don't know. Perhaps you fixed the problem already though.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aysyr on December 23, 2013, 11:53:11 PM
Deleted - got my facts wrong :P


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 24, 2013, 12:12:15 AM
Possible bug in Mining Module window (is it OK to report this kind of thing here?). I was checking the "close miner" and "restart miner" button functions. My miner had been running at half-speed (Full Speed box unchecked) because at full speed my cursor barely responds to mouse movements. Close and Restart worked fine, but after the miner restarted, the GPU miner was clearly running at full speed, even though the box remained unchecked. Clicking it twice - on then off - took it back to half speed. I imagine it should come back on restart to whatever speed it was set to when it closed.

The reason I was trying those buttons is that they appeared to parallel the old "Register Mining Module" button pair mentioned in this outdated tutorial: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1589-how-to-mine-gridcoin/

Since I have not yet found a block, I was idly checking to see whether I needed to register the miner somehow. I'm still wondering about that part.     :)

Oh - I was not able to get the UPGRADE to work yet, so this is still the pre-upgrade version. I have not used the RPC console before and my attempts to press Enter after keying the UPGRADE command were ignored - presumably there's something else needed or syntax details I don't know. Perhaps you fixed the problem already though.
For anyone who had trouble using Upgrade, I just released version 5.80 (Prod version):
-fixes the close of gui miner and cgminer inadvertently
-set this key if you don't want gridcoin to close cgminer/guiminer on exit:     closemineronexit=false
-fixes the bug where you receive an error when you press Create CgMiner Instance
-Full Speed and Half speed work, but still do not have a Memory of their last setting
-Sluggishness problem with cgminer fixed

Good luck,
Rob H.





Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 24, 2013, 12:32:48 AM
Cloud nine, me - I just mined my first block.

I was stress-testing my system at the time, a zillion apps in the background and I was using Rocksmith (a guitar instruction tool) on Steam as though nothing else existed. Suddenly Rocksmith vanished, the Steam window took over with a little notice in the lower right hand corner that Gridcoin had mined a block. Then Windows rebooted! Those are problems for another day though - I mined some Gridcoins (and got the BOINC bonus). All is well. No more stress-testing for a while.     :)

I'll join the BOINC Gridcoin team and grab 5.8.0 Real Soon Now, but meanwhile I've got to catch up on my guitar practice. Thanks for all the help in getting set up with Gridcoin.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 24, 2013, 12:48:29 AM
I'm sure you checked, but is the sync issue related to pool mining?  This morning, my wallet stopped syncing after 6 hours, I restarted and no sync, I used the rebuild block chain and it did sync,  I mined for about an hour and started getting found blocks that were credited to me (I have been pool mining and I checked the getpoolmining mode and it was true).  First time the miner has given me the coins after a sync issue.  Of course they disappeared after yet another resync.  But it got me to thinking that no one else has implemented an in client pool miner (that I know of) so maybe...
Anyway - great work on the coin.  Love the concept!  It even got me to get BOINC going after a year hiatus.  I even joined the gridcoin team at world community grid!

FYI
I have the latest version (v1.1.4.3-g71-prod)
I use GUIminer inside the client - I have never been able to get CG miner to work with my system (repeated tries with different coins)

CoinPrader,
Great glad you are getting close.  There are about 33 pool miners and I haven't heard this specific problem; I have a fear that if a pool miner creates a stale block, something strange might be happening.  Can you do me a favor--- keep testing with the newest version as some things have been fixed that happen after you mine a block that may change the behavior.  Tell me if you fail to sync now in pool mining mode after finding blocks; ensure restartwallet=0 so you can tell; if it happens, PM me the end of the debug log.

Also, why don't you give the new cgminer version a try, it would be interesting to know if the defaults work for you.  I set them up for 4 machines today and all are working with 3 types of cards.

Rob H.


I will keep testing this - just got a stale share and I lost sync within 3 units.  I had not added the restartwallet=0 so I will wait to send you the debug results.
I will try the cgminer again and let you know.
But for now, it's off to holiday with the family so no new mining for me - catch you all after the season!
Ed


Reproduced:  You found it!  We are storing a mined stale block that does not validate the boinchash as an orphan; its propogating and getting stuck at the end of the blocks table.  The only workaround is to re-sync.  I think this is the whole problem.  I'll fix this and test now; will release a fix as soon as it is tested!

Thanks for finding this!

Rob H.





Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 24, 2013, 02:59:59 AM
All,

Version 1.1.4.4 is now available for download from the prod MSI.

Alternatively, you can type upgrade from the rpc.

Starting at block 36775 the client will reject stale mined orphans instead of storing them, and we believe this was the root cause of the syncing issues.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 24, 2013, 03:26:03 AM
All,

Version 1.1.4.4 is now available for download from the prod MSI.

Alternatively, you can type upgrade from the rpc.

Starting at block 36775 the client will reject stale mined orphans instead of storing them, and we believe this was the root cause of the syncing issues.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford


Running it now: v1.1.4.4-g71-prod according to the Help About window (which still says About Litecoin in its header, btw).

I started an instance of cgminer pool-mining BTC first to see whether Gridcoin knocked it out at launch. It did. No big deal. Everything else looks fine, 36437 blocks and "Up to date".




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 24, 2013, 03:53:05 AM
I really hope this fixes the sync issue.

All,

Version 1.1.4.4 is now available for download from the prod MSI.

Alternatively, you can type upgrade from the rpc.

Starting at block 36775 the client will reject stale mined orphans instead of storing them, and we believe this was the root cause of the syncing issues.

Best Regards,
Rob Halford



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: GrahamBen on December 24, 2013, 04:47:27 AM
Great, today's best news.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 24, 2013, 09:27:03 AM
what is the difficult of the network right now?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 24, 2013, 01:52:08 PM
I am trying to understand the BOINC projects panel in the client display. It seems to come preloaded with the names of five projects, a couple of which I sometimes use but have not been accepting tasks from in recent months. The WCG is not among them, and it happens to be the project I spend all my BOINC time on recently. Anyway, is this list customizable, and if so are there instructions for it somewhere that I have overlooked?

Please forgive my bumping this part of my earlier post. I'm still trying to make sense of the BOINC projects panel. I've found old tutorials, but they only show how to set up new BOINC project accounts (assuming that users are new to BOINC) and they refer only to project names hard-coded in the panel.

My situation differs somewhat. I've been using BOINC through BAM since 2009 and my projects were in place before I set up Gridcoin. I've found advice to add projects to the project panel but I've not found a way to do it. Also, the information I've seen advises replacing project IDs at each individual BOINC project home page with a Gridcoin payout addy. This seems onerous and would negate the advantage of dealing with BOINC projects through BAM. Does it really have to be like that or am I finding outdated advice?

In summary:

Is it necessary to use the project panel at all to mine Gridcoin and get credit for BOINC activity?

If so, is there an up-to-date tutorial link, especially one that shows how to enter pre-existing BOINC project data?

Is it really a requirement to enter a Gridcoin payout ID on each relevant BOINC project's home page? If so, explanation might make it a more palatable requirement.

Thanks - I'm getting there - I'm in the top 1% of BOINC users so I'd really like to help the Gridcoin effort.            :)


I should have linked this for you yesterday, sorry about that:

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1922-cpu-mining-tutorialtopic/

That link will explain what to do with the projects listed.

For the moment I believe those projects are the only ones which are eligible for the cpu mining pool but I think there are plans to add more.

For the time being, you can join just those projects or you can join other projects as well, it will not hurt your ability to solve blocks and get rewarded, but I think it may detract from your cpu mining earnings...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 24, 2013, 02:00:46 PM
Reproduced:  You found it!  We are storing a mined stale block that does not validate the boinchash as an orphan; its propogating and getting stuck at the end of the blocks table.  The only workaround is to re-sync.  I think this is the whole problem.  I'll fix this and test now; will release a fix as soon as it is tested!

Thanks for finding this!

Rob H.

I am about 99% sure this will be the cause. Well done COINPRADER!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 24, 2013, 02:31:23 PM
Ok, I'm not sure why, but my cgminer instance still causes my desktop to become very sluggish when I launch cgminer from inside the client... I will be working on troubleshooting this today...

***Edit***

Can you push the latest version of the source, thanks!

***Edit***

Ok, if I set the intensity lower (13) on the internal miner the sluggishness mostly goes away, but then I only get ~10Kh/s. I normally run cgminer on intensity of 18 with no problems.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 24, 2013, 03:50:40 PM
Also, my external cgminer is still crashing every 10 - 15 minutes even with "restartwallet=0" set.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 24, 2013, 03:58:33 PM

Version 5.8.3 (1.1.4.4) is available for download:
You can type "upgrade" from the RPC for this version.
 
The following changes have been made:
1. We disabled the blockchain snapshot feature in hopes after block 36775 and a 51% majority upgrade the root sync issue will be fixed, and to alleviate the cgminer restart problem.
2. Fixed the communication with the cgminer API.
3. Added a CGMiner monitor checkbox, that will automatically restart the API if your mh/s drops to zero; it is checked once every 5 minutes.
4. Added a 25 second delay to initialize the miners so that the client can start quicker and smoother.
5. Fixed the close guiminer/close cgminer bug (IE we start the API once and only once, and monitor it once every 5 minutes).
 
Rob H.


PS - TribalBob-- The snapshot feature was the culprit for the Cgminer close problem; please try this version.  Also, the sluggishness bug "should" be fixed in this version; please update us.

We still have to wait for block 36775 to pass with 50% upgrading before we know for sure; lets cross our fingers.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 24, 2013, 04:05:25 PM
Also, my external cgminer is still crashing every 10 - 15 minutes even with "restartwallet=0" set.

Something similar has been happening to me. My separate instance of cgminer (mining BTC with USB ASICS) would shut down from time to time whenever I was also running the Gridcoin GPU miner. I recently noticed that when this happens, the Gridcoin mining module reports that the GPU MH/s rate has dropped to zero also. I'm now pretty sure that the Gridcoin miner stops first and takes the other instance of cgminer down with it. I can restart the Gridcoin miner with the Restart Miner button in the mining console. It always starts up at full speed but can be throttled back with repeated clicks of the Full Speed button.

Before using Gridcoin, I routinely ran two instances of cgminer, one for ASIC BTC mining and the other for scrypt LTC mining. They coexist without problems, so I'm pretty sure these problems originate with Gridcoin somehow.

Frequency of the crashes so far is from a couple of minutes to an hour apart. One lesson learned for me is to check the status of the Gridcoin miner whenever the other instance of cgminer crashes.

I see there is a new update to try, so I'll give it a shot.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 24, 2013, 04:18:01 PM

Version 5.8.3 (1.1.4.4) is available for download:
You can type "upgrade" from the RPC for this version.
 
The following changes have been made:
1. We disabled the blockchain snapshot feature in hopes after block 36775 and a 51% majority upgrade the root sync issue will be fixed, and to alleviate the cgminer restart problem.
2. Fixed the communication with the cgminer API.
3. Added a CGMiner monitor checkbox, that will automatically restart the API if your mh/s drops to zero; it is checked once every 5 minutes.
4. Added a 25 second delay to initialize the miners so that the client can start quicker and smoother.
5. Fixed the close guiminer/close cgminer bug (IE we start the API once and only once, and monitor it once every 5 minutes).
 
Rob H.


PS - TribalBob-- The snapshot feature was the culprit for the Cgminer close problem; please try this version.  Also, the sluggishness bug "should" be fixed in this version; please update us.

We still have to wait for block 36775 to pass with 50% upgrading before we know for sure; lets cross our fingers.


Wow, that was quick! Good work Rob! The communication problem with the API being fixed should theoretically repair the sluggishness as well, correct...?

***Edit***

Wow, just realized you specifically mentioned that already, lol... Not sure how I missed it, sorry...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 24, 2013, 04:52:44 PM
I can confirm that my external instance of cgminer is no longer crashing. I still get a bit of lag on intensity 13 with the internal miner so I'm scared to try my usual 18. For now I am using the external miner, I am gong to do some last minute Christmas shopping and when I return I will experiment with the higher intensity settings.

For now though, it does appear (at least to me) that the external miner crashes are over.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 24, 2013, 09:57:40 PM
Apparently we're not going to move past 36775, so I had to create a new version again:
  (This change worked in testnet; but obviously not going to work in prod).


 I changed the checkpoint to block 36810, and now we're going to try something better; discard the orphan if it fails the boinc hash.

Please download the 1.1.4.5 Prod MSI or Upgrade.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 24, 2013, 10:23:44 PM
Apparently we're not going to move past 36775, so I had to create a new version again:
  (This change worked in testnet; but obviously not going to work in prod).


 I changed the checkpoint to block 36810, and now we're going to try something better; discard the orphan if it fails the boinc hash.

Please download the 1.1.4.5 Prod MSI or Upgrade.

Thanks,
Rob H.

Running 1.1.4.5 now. "Up to date" at 36842.

Edit: It didn't last. Got windows message Gridcoin-Qt has stopped working. Display showed "Up to date" at 36786(!).


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 24, 2013, 11:04:40 PM
Apparently we're not going to move past 36775, so I had to create a new version again:
  (This change worked in testnet; but obviously not going to work in prod).


 I changed the checkpoint to block 36810, and now we're going to try something better; discard the orphan if it fails the boinc hash.

Please download the 1.1.4.5 Prod MSI or Upgrade.

Thanks,
Rob H.

Running 1.1.4.5 now. "Up to date" at 36842.

Edit: It didn't last. Got windows message Gridcoin-Qt has stopped working. Display showed "Up to date" at 36786(!).


Well after a couple more debug sessions in c++, I had to move it to 36850, and add a couple of preliminary checks to keep qt from crashing... I did make a couple of changes; if you have any problems with a crash; please upgrade to 5.87.

Finally, I see we moved past 36851; lets hope this is the last change.




Please grab the latest.

Rob H.

 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 24, 2013, 11:44:50 PM
Web site upgraded:
 
http://www.gridcoin.us (http://www.gridcoin.us)
 
Upgraded the block explorer to a new version of IIS.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 25, 2013, 01:04:26 AM
Grabbed the installer (it said 5.88). Ran OK, appears to be mining and "Up to date" showed 36908 on startup, now 36910. It terminated my other (ASIC) cgminer on startup. No problem, I'll restart it.

Edit: Update - after 13 hours it seems very stable and mining seems to be working. "Up to date" count is now 37208. No further interference with my BTC cgminer program that runs concurrently.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 25, 2013, 01:33:50 AM
The new site design is amazing. Looks really good.

Web site upgraded:
 
http://www.gridcoin.us (http://www.gridcoin.us)
 
Upgraded the block explorer to a new version of IIS.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Sp1k4h on December 25, 2013, 09:25:46 AM
I have a problem since yesterday's upgrades: Cgminer keep being shutted down, i had to activate "ensure cgminer stays running unless paused or stopped in cgwatcher" option on CGWatcher to keep mining, but like that i can't finish blocks and my chance to mine succesfully dropped drastically.
Why gridcoin shut my external cgminer?


oh, and btw, merry Christmas mates!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: GrahamBen on December 25, 2013, 10:00:38 AM
For me, The v1.1.4.5-g71-prod solves that problem.
Before that, my cgminer and guiminer kept being shut down.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 25, 2013, 10:14:09 AM
I've run into what appear to be some serious issues. The client appeared to have been restarting all night (the systray was still loaded with zombie icons)
I uninstalled, then installed the new version. Starting it, I received a critical error with the wallet regarding the db cursor.
Since the client would no longer start I removed all the files in the roaming directory again and got my backup wallet off my USB stick.

Now when I started the client it said 9 weeks out of date but then skipped synching. So the wallet no longer has an accessible balance.

First attempt indicated it might be forking, so I deleted the block chain and started again. The client appears to skip synching again.

Since I still have my wallet backup I'm not too worried about lost coins. Maybe just a little :P

Hopefully this is either an isolated or easily traced event.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 25, 2013, 10:35:55 AM
Merry Xmas all :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 25, 2013, 02:49:15 PM
Merry X-mas everyone!

Just wanted to let Rob know I woke up this morning to find my client stalled again with the latest version.

My cgminer shows that it had a rejected block, three new blocks passed after that and then that is where the client stalled at, so it seems to be the same situation that someone else was having earlier.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 25, 2013, 02:52:45 PM
All my wallet balances and transaction are way off with the new client. It is showing amounts on transactions that I have never done. Also the wallet is not showing anything mined after 12/5/2013. Very odd.

Merry X-mas everyone!

Just wanted to let Rob know I woke up this morning to find my client stalled again with the latest version.

My cgminer shows that it had a rejected block, three new blocks passed after that and then that is where the client stalled at, so it seems to be the same situation that someone else was having earlier.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 25, 2013, 03:00:57 PM
All my wallet balances and transaction are way off with the new client. It is showing amounts on transactions that I have never done. Also the wallet is not showing anything mined after 12/5/2013. Very odd.

That is pretty weird that it's not showing your mined tx's...

For the tx's you're seeing that you never created, are they perhaps the beacon tx's for cpu mining...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 25, 2013, 03:29:20 PM
I tried 2 different wallet files and on both it is showing weird transaction amounts and it is not showing anything that was mined in the last 2 weeks.

All my wallet balances and transaction are way off with the new client. It is showing amounts on transactions that I have never done. Also the wallet is not showing anything mined after 12/5/2013. Very odd.

That is pretty weird that it's not showing your mined tx's...

For the tx's you're seeing that you never created, are they perhaps the beacon tx's for cpu mining...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: tbc on December 25, 2013, 03:41:32 PM
When I try to compile the qt-wallet under ubuntu, qmake reports:
Code:
Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: qaxcontainer

make terminates with following error:
Code:
src/qt/bitcoingui.cpp:9:21: fatal error: QAxObject: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.

Please help me to solve this problem.


I have the same problem in 32 bit 12.04 lts ubuntu  ???


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Sp1k4h on December 25, 2013, 06:27:02 PM
i can't mine anymore... I sincerely don't know what happened. but i get my external cgminer closed after a while and when it goes, i only got 30kh/s instead of my usual kh/s.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 25, 2013, 06:44:06 PM
After last update everything looks fine from my side. Cgminer not disappearing anymore, blockchain updates correctly. Nice work Gridcoin!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 25, 2013, 06:53:43 PM
Mine doesn't show any previously mined coins and runs on a fork no matter how many times I tell it to rebuild the blockchain, or manually delete. It starts at block 0 and goes from there.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Sp1k4h on December 25, 2013, 08:57:54 PM
Sounds like a problem of mine... now it fixed, except my kh/s doesn't go normal but it's stucked at 30kh/s... someone that might help? :X


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 25, 2013, 09:45:41 PM
I wonder if we're inadvertently using different versions or if the updates have gotten out of sync, perhaps between Linux and Windows versions.

I got mine from the MSI installer here http://www.gridcoin.us almost 24 hours ago, and it seems to have been running flawlessly ever since, 37381 blocks of transaction history at the moment. My Help window shows v1.1.4.5-g71-prod.

Are we all on the same page, as it were?





Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Sp1k4h on December 25, 2013, 10:34:19 PM
i've fixed my khs problem, i had to reinstall amd driver. dunno how it could happen :D
btw, cgminer still getting closed automatically. Is there any way to disable or fix this?
i'm using cgwatcher to run cgminer and to monitor everything. But getting cgminer closed once in a while(often tbh) it's troublesome...

here's some infos:

http://i.imgur.com/9aMwUqk.png


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 02:03:03 AM
Hello everyone,

The syncing problem was not 100% solved.  About 2 hours ago, one machine stopped syncing at a certain block and I grabbed the data files and saved them (so I can keep reproducing even if the files are overwritten) and I did find an additional problem.  The good news is with this new version, I did not rebuild my blockchain and the standard code recovered.  So, in light of that I think its fixed.

Please download v6.0 MSI, or use the upgrade feature.

Merry Christmas,
Rob Halford

PS If you had a wallet problem, it most likely had to do with constantly exiting gridcoin and restarting (leaving the wallet file in an unstable state).  Backup the wallet, use -salvagewallet and resync, and once we stop restarting the client we should be fine.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 02:17:52 AM
When I try to compile the qt-wallet under ubuntu, qmake reports:
Code:
Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: qaxcontainer

make terminates with following error:
Code:
src/qt/bitcoingui.cpp:9:21: fatal error: QAxObject: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.

Please help me to solve this problem.


I have the same problem in 32 bit 12.04 lts ubuntu  ???
Please read the cryptsy thread; there is a build in there for the exchange.
Just please be advised you cant mine with it.

Thanks,
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 02:18:29 AM
All my wallet balances and transaction are way off with the new client. It is showing amounts on transactions that I have never done. Also the wallet is not showing anything mined after 12/5/2013. Very odd.

Merry X-mas everyone!

Just wanted to let Rob know I woke up this morning to find my client stalled again with the latest version.

My cgminer shows that it had a rejected block, three new blocks passed after that and then that is where the client stalled at, so it seems to be the same situation that someone else was having earlier.
Try rebuild the block chain one final time from 0, and anything your private keys are for should come up correctly.

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 02:20:14 AM
i've fixed my khs problem, i had to reinstall amd driver. dunno how it could happen :D
btw, cgminer still getting closed automatically. Is there any way to disable or fix this?
i'm using cgwatcher to run cgminer and to monitor everything. But getting cgminer closed once in a while(often tbh) it's troublesome...

here's some infos:

http://i.imgur.com/9aMwUqk.png
You can disable the cgminer monitor by going into the gpu configuration page, and disable each card.

Thanks,
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 26, 2013, 04:28:40 AM
Gridcoin can now be traded on http://ecrypto.net/index.php?x=109


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 26, 2013, 04:38:13 AM
I tried re synching from the start with latest version and I am getting still wrong transaction amounts and no mined blocks showing after the 5th of December. This never happened with the previous versions.

I ma
All my wallet balances and transaction are way off with the new client. It is showing amounts on transactions that I have never done. Also the wallet is not showing anything mined after 12/5/2013. Very odd.

Merry X-mas everyone!

Just wanted to let Rob know I woke up this morning to find my client stalled again with the latest version.

My cgminer shows that it had a rejected block, three new blocks passed after that and then that is where the client stalled at, so it seems to be the same situation that someone else was having earlier.
Try rebuild the block chain one final time from 0, and anything your private keys are for should come up correctly.

Grid



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 26, 2013, 04:43:38 AM
Gridcoin can now be traded on http://ecrypto.net/index.php?x=109
It is scam


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 05:31:18 AM
I tried re synching from the start with latest version and I am getting still wrong transaction amounts and no mined blocks showing after the 5th of December. This never happened with the previous versions.

I ma
All my wallet  at, so it seems to be the same situation that someone else was having earlier.
Try rebuild the block chain one final time from 0, and anything your private keys are for should come up correctly.

Grid

[/quote]

Do you have a back up of your wallet from a week ago?

All transactions stored in the chain should bring back your balances if you can replace your wallet.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: GrahamBen on December 26, 2013, 05:38:22 AM
Quote
It is scam

No,it's not scam.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 26, 2013, 05:46:38 AM
Quote
It is scam

No,it's not scam.
Yes it is, tried to deposit a little for test - zero balance

UPD: its showing there, the site lags as hell


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 26, 2013, 06:12:03 AM
Quote
It is scam

No,it's not scam.
Yes it is, tried to deposit a little for test - zero balance

UPD: its showing there, the site lags as hell
Anyway i'll wait for more trusted exchange then this. It's emptiness on almost all crypto pairs there.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 26, 2013, 07:20:57 AM
Blam!
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15551189/Sheet/26_09_20_34.png


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 26, 2013, 07:25:45 AM
Withdrawed my GDC back, nice trading  ;D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: ok123 on December 26, 2013, 09:13:13 AM
I want to buy 30k GRC,
If interesting,please contact me with your bid.
PM me. ;D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 26, 2013, 09:33:38 AM
All synched up and appearing to work great again :)
Great work!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 26, 2013, 11:46:49 AM
I have some problem to upgrade to version 1.1.4.5

last version i can download from the site is 1.1.4.4, but i have some syncing problem. If i write update in console, i have an error message: "upgrade failed". Any help?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 26, 2013, 01:27:06 PM
For those having trouble with cgminer crashing constantly, please try adding this to your gridcoin.conf:

Code:
closemineronexit=false
restartwallet=0


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 26, 2013, 01:34:47 PM
Please push the latest version of the source and if possible please try to keep the source current at all times because your downloads are being flagged as malicious by Google Chrome.

***Edit***
They are most likely being flagged as malicious because you are packaging cgminer with the client, cgminer is technically a brute-force password cracker.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 26, 2013, 03:13:35 PM
I am using a backup from 2 months ago. Shouldn't matter right?

I tried re synching from the start with latest version and I am getting still wrong transaction amounts and no mined blocks showing after the 5th of December. This never happened with the previous versions.

I ma
All my wallet  at, so it seems to be the same situation that someone else was having earlier.
Try rebuild the block chain one final time from 0, and anything your private keys are for should come up correctly.

Grid


Do you have a back up of your wallet from a week ago?

All transactions stored in the chain should bring back your balances if you can replace your wallet.

Rob H.

[/quote]


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 26, 2013, 03:38:16 PM
i'm using this gridcoin.conf

rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=9332
server=1

and this string on cgmier 3.7.2

cgminer.exe --scrypt -o 127.0.0.1:9332 -u user -p pass

but i have this error-->pool 0 slow/down or URL or credential invalid

any help?

edit: i check, there is no type error


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 26, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Got "Out of sync" problem at 37796 block :\ I have 6 peers currently.

UPD. Rebuilded blockchain, everything is good.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: 360998186 on December 26, 2013, 04:23:38 PM
yawn,i believe that boycoin will be appear soon,and mencoin,wommencoin,Um,childcoin^^


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 26, 2013, 04:57:03 PM
yawn,i believe that boycoin will be appear soon,and mencoin,wommencoin,Um,childcoin^^
Just read a little about this currency. It have really fresh and USEFUL feature - pairing with scientific software. Join our little community. Cheers!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 05:55:07 PM
Please push the latest version of the source and if possible please try to keep the source current at all times because your downloads are being flagged as malicious by Google Chrome.

***Edit***
They are most likely being flagged as malicious because you are packaging cgminer with the client, cgminer is technically a brute-force password cracker.
Good point Bob---- thanks for noticing this;
I'll see if I can buy a Thawte code signing license for Gridcoin... theyre pretty expensive but may be worth it....

Rob H.




Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 05:57:08 PM
Syncing Update:
6.0 seems to be going relatively good, breaking the problem up into 2 pieces:
1) Not able to sync even after restarting Gridcoin <----------- I believe 6.0 fixed this one
2) Client stops talking to peers, 4500 internal gridcoin peers (debug log says Connection Failure)  - Looks to user like a sync issue, but a restart fixes this.

If we can confirm #2 is the only issue left regarding syncing, Ill focus on #2 next.

Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Sp1k4h on December 26, 2013, 06:03:11 PM
Do i have to backup my wallet before rebuild the block chain?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 26, 2013, 06:08:05 PM
Syncing Update:
6.0 seems to be going relatively good, breaking the problem up into 2 pieces:
1) Not able to sync even after restarting Gridcoin <----------- I believe 6.0 fixed this one
2) Client stops talking to peers, 4500 internal gridcoin peers (debug log says Connection Failure)  - Looks to user like a sync issue, but a restart fixes this.

If we can confirm #2 is the only issue left regarding syncing, Ill focus on #2 next.

Rob H.



where can i find release 6.0?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 26, 2013, 07:15:14 PM
Syncing Update:
6.0 seems to be going relatively good, breaking the problem up into 2 pieces:
1) Not able to sync even after restarting Gridcoin <----------- I believe 6.0 fixed this one
2) Client stops talking to peers, 4500 internal gridcoin peers (debug log says Connection Failure)  - Looks to user like a sync issue, but a restart fixes this.

If we can confirm #2 is the only issue left regarding syncing, Ill focus on #2 next.

Rob H.



My sync issues seem to be gone but I am having problems where my client stops communicating with my miner which I assume is due to problem #2.

It seems to be happening (at least for me) whenever I have found a block as my cgminer displays a found block and then immediately displays that "pool 0 is down" and caches the submission until it is stale, then it usually shows a few more new blocks and then "pool 0 is down" shows permanently until restart.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 26, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
Syncing Update:
6.0 seems to be going relatively good, breaking the problem up into 2 pieces:
1) Not able to sync even after restarting Gridcoin <----------- I believe 6.0 fixed this one
2) Client stops talking to peers, 4500 internal gridcoin peers (debug log says Connection Failure)  - Looks to user like a sync issue, but a restart fixes this.

If we can confirm #2 is the only issue left regarding syncing, Ill focus on #2 next.

Rob H.



where can i find release 6.0?

http://gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 26, 2013, 08:50:25 PM
Syncing Update:
6.0 seems to be going relatively good, breaking the problem up into 2 pieces:
1) Not able to sync even after restarting Gridcoin <----------- I believe 6.0 fixed this one
2) Client stops talking to peers, 4500 internal gridcoin peers (debug log says Connection Failure)  - Looks to user like a sync issue, but a restart fixes this.

If we can confirm #2 is the only issue left regarding syncing, Ill focus on #2 next.

Rob H.



where can i find release 6.0?

http://gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi

thx!

with 500kh/s i still can mine in solo?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 26, 2013, 09:39:59 PM
Syncing Update:
6.0 seems to be going relatively good, breaking the problem up into 2 pieces:
1) Not able to sync even after restarting Gridcoin <----------- I believe 6.0 fixed this one
2) Client stops talking to peers, 4500 internal gridcoin peers (debug log says Connection Failure)  - Looks to user like a sync issue, but a restart fixes this.

If we can confirm #2 is the only issue left regarding syncing, Ill focus on #2 next.

Rob H.



where can i find release 6.0?

http://gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi

thx!

with 500kh/s i still can mine in solo?

You should do fairly well on solo with 500 KH/s


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 10:16:42 PM
Do i have to backup my wallet before rebuild the block chain?
No, it only deletes the blocks and the chainstate; but it is a good idea to back your wallet up regularly.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 26, 2013, 10:19:52 PM
Syncing Update:
6.0 seems to be going relatively good, breaking the problem up into 2 pieces:
1) Not able to sync even after restarting Gridcoin <----------- I believe 6.0 fixed this one
2) Client stops talking to peers, 4500 internal gridcoin peers (debug log says Connection Failure)  - Looks to user like a sync issue, but a restart fixes this.

If we can confirm #2 is the only issue left regarding syncing, Ill focus on #2 next.

Rob H.



My sync issues seem to be gone but I am having problems where my client stops communicating with my miner which I assume is due to problem #2.

It seems to be happening (at least for me) whenever I have found a block as my cgminer displays a found block and then immediately displays that "pool 0 is down" and caches the submission until it is stale, then it usually shows a few more new blocks and then "pool 0 is down" shows permanently until restart.
Thanks-- I didn't think we would find the comm issue in the same place; but I'll be looking at that next... Maybe #1 & #2 are related to the same stale block bug; possibly marking the loopback node as DoS attacked etc... Ill check.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 12:08:36 AM
New Version Available (1.1.4.7/6.2/48): Upgrade from the RPC: Yes.

In this version we improve the resilience of the peer network in hopes to solve part II of the syncing issue so that
no reboot is required.


Best Regards,
Rob Halford



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: johnatx on December 27, 2013, 03:15:09 AM
Just joined the team on World Community Grid.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: johnatx on December 27, 2013, 03:40:28 AM
Joined "Gridcoin" team on
Rosetta@home and malariacontrol.net as well.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Shadey on December 27, 2013, 05:24:30 AM
I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 07:54:49 AM
I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Shadey on December 27, 2013, 08:28:35 AM
I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 09:11:01 AM
I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: KleinMatthias on December 27, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
After not being able to sync for the past while, I just downloaded the latest version. The sync worked now - but surprisingly fast. So I am a bit cautious here.

Could someone send me some GRC so I can test if my wallet actually works?

GCehNw1ywW9Qr7J9f9Mxc8xQh3MswwX98c

Thanks!
Matt


P.S. Here the gridcoin.conf that worked for me (i copied it to my AppData-folder):

Code:
rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=localhost
rpcport=9778
server=1
gen=0
addnode=98.114.181.178
addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:97788


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: derm on December 27, 2013, 11:38:30 AM
After not being able to sync for the past while, I just downloaded the latest version. The sync worked now - but surprisingly fast. So I am a bit cautious here.

Could someone send me some GRC so I can test if my wallet actually works?

GCehNw1ywW9Qr7J9f9Mxc8xQh3MswwX98c

Thanks!
Matt

donated some to your address,
welcome :)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: KleinMatthias on December 27, 2013, 11:40:27 AM
After not being able to sync for the past while, I just downloaded the latest version. The sync worked now - but surprisingly fast. So I am a bit cautious here.

Could someone send me some GRC so I can test if my wallet actually works?

GCehNw1ywW9Qr7J9f9Mxc8xQh3MswwX98c

Thanks!
Matt

donated some to your address,
welcome :)

Thank you very much! They just arrived - so I assume everything works fine now.

Strange enough, though, my wallet now claims to be out of sync. It says that it has processed 38186 blocks - and that number just doesn't change. Your very much appreciated donation, however, popped up.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 02:00:37 PM
After not being able to sync for the past while, I just downloaded the latest version. The sync worked now - but surprisingly fast. So I am a bit cautious here.

Could someone send me some GRC so I can test if my wallet actually works?

GCehNw1ywW9Qr7J9f9Mxc8xQh3MswwX98c

Thanks!
Matt

donated some to your address,
welcome :)

Thank you very much! They just arrived - so I assume everything works fine now.

Strange enough, though, my wallet now claims to be out of sync. It says that it has processed 38186 blocks - and that number just doesn't change. Your very much appreciated donation, however, popped up.

The last 100 blocks rely on extra security checks; for new users, close gridcoin, click on the MSI and click Repair gridcoin.  Run it again.  Verify your "Help | About" menu has a registered version > 40.  It should sync.

Best Regards,
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 27, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
Glad to have you on our team!

Joined "Gridcoin" team on
Rosetta@home and malariacontrol.net as well.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 04:39:54 PM
Ok, I have a new error today, my "Boinc Processing Power" never displays higher than 50% usage even though BOINC is using 100% of my cpu.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Shadey on December 27, 2013, 04:48:08 PM
I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"
There's nothing to the right of projects in my wallet, and i tried the conf idea above and nothing is working because these things you guys say are supposed to be there aren't.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 27, 2013, 05:12:02 PM
When it gets to 8 days, how long does it stay there?

I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"
There's nothing to the right of projects in my wallet, and i tried the conf idea above and nothing is working because these things you guys say are supposed to be there aren't.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Boing7898 on December 27, 2013, 05:25:50 PM
Woah, I was expecting the difficulty to be 2-3 but it's still under 1. I like that, I can mine more GRC for me :3
Oh and nice job on the website upgrade! Looks awesome!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 06:10:32 PM
Ok, I have a new error today, my "Boinc Processing Power" never displays higher than 50% usage even though BOINC is using 100% of my cpu.
Bob, do you have more than 1000 avg daily credits showing?
Does your Boinc thread count match the screen thread count?
Also, try a :
lodctr /r
and restart and see if that changes anything.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 06:11:23 PM
When it gets to 8 days, how long does it stay there?

I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"
There's nothing to the right of projects in my wallet, and i tried the conf idea above and nothing is working because these things you guys say are supposed to be there aren't.
You may have to download the latest 6.1 version; from gridcoin.us, download the MSI Prod version.
You should see a button "Rebuild Block Chain" on the main screen.

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 06:22:20 PM
Ok, I have a new error today, my "Boinc Processing Power" never displays higher than 50% usage even though BOINC is using 100% of my cpu.
Bob, do you have more than 1000 avg daily credits showing?
Does your Boinc thread count match the screen thread count?
Also, try a :
lodctr /r
and restart and see if that changes anything.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Hi Rob,

I show:
Code:
Boinc Processing Power: 50
Boinc Thread Count:     0
Boinc Avg Daily Credits:4063

Do you want me to do "lodctr /r" from Command Prompt or from the debug console...? Also, when you say "restart" should I restart the client or restart my pc?

Thanks!



***Edit***
I've also just noticed that my mining module is displaying "..." for "Boinc Block" even though Boinc is running and doing work...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 06:45:23 PM
Yeah, try the lodctr /r from an elevated prompt first, and restart gridcoin-qt.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 06:52:14 PM
Yeah, try the lodctr /r from an elevated prompt first, and restart gridcoin-qt.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Sorry, last question, should I close my current instance of Gridcoin before doing lodctr /r


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Shadey on December 27, 2013, 06:52:34 PM
When it gets to 8 days, how long does it stay there?

I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"
There's nothing to the right of projects in my wallet, and i tried the conf idea above and nothing is working because these things you guys say are supposed to be there aren't.
You may have to download the latest 6.1 version; from gridcoin.us, download the MSI Prod version.
You should see a button "Rebuild Block Chain" on the main screen.

Rob H.


I don't see a 6.1 version on the site, even the beta is 5.7?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 06:54:59 PM
When it gets to 8 days, how long does it stay there?

I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"
There's nothing to the right of projects in my wallet, and i tried the conf idea above and nothing is working because these things you guys say are supposed to be there aren't.
You may have to download the latest 6.1 version; from gridcoin.us, download the MSI Prod version.
You should see a button "Rebuild Block Chain" on the main screen.

Rob H.


I don't see a 6.1 version on the site, even the beta is 5.7?

http://www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi - I downloaded from here and it is the latest version.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Shadey on December 27, 2013, 06:56:45 PM
When it gets to 8 days, how long does it stay there?

I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"
There's nothing to the right of projects in my wallet, and i tried the conf idea above and nothing is working because these things you guys say are supposed to be there aren't.
You may have to download the latest 6.1 version; from gridcoin.us, download the MSI Prod version.
You should see a button "Rebuild Block Chain" on the main screen.

Rob H.


I don't see a 6.1 version on the site, even the beta is 5.7?

http://www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi - I downloaded from here and it is the latest version.

Ok, I'll try it again, but this is my fourth time DL this one lol

Edit: Holy crap, It actually shows the "Rebuild Blockchain" option this time, you the Man TribalBob :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 06:59:53 PM
When it gets to 8 days, how long does it stay there?

I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"
There's nothing to the right of projects in my wallet, and i tried the conf idea above and nothing is working because these things you guys say are supposed to be there aren't.
You may have to download the latest 6.1 version; from gridcoin.us, download the MSI Prod version.
You should see a button "Rebuild Block Chain" on the main screen.

Rob H.


I don't see a 6.1 version on the site, even the beta is 5.7?

http://www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi - I downloaded from here and it is the latest version.

Ok, I'll try it again, but this is my fourth time DL this one lol

Make sure you delete c:\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin before you install the new one


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 07:00:20 PM
Yeah, try the lodctr /r from an elevated prompt first, and restart gridcoin-qt.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Sorry, last question, should I close my current instance of Gridcoin before doing lodctr /r
Yes I would close it first, doubt it matters since it updates the registry; but still need to restart gridcoin.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 07:10:02 PM
Yeah, try the lodctr /r from an elevated prompt first, and restart gridcoin-qt.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Sorry, last question, should I close my current instance of Gridcoin before doing lodctr /r
Yes I would close it first, doubt it matters since it updates the registry; but still need to restart gridcoin.



Ok, the registry rebuild was successful, Gridcoin has restarted but still displaying the same for Boinc Processing Power, Boinc Thread Count and Boinc Block. Also Boinc KH/ps is stuck at "0".

Is it possible that this is happening because BOINC is working on projects that aren't in Gridcoin's projects list...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
You should be able to work on any project - that project list is just for the cpu miner feature that's on hold.

Try adding malaria, world community grid and milky way and see if any difference.
Try running as admin.
Let us know what fixes it; that's a very rare problem.

Thanks,
Rob H.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 07:21:15 PM
You should be able to work on any project - that project list is just for the cpu miner feature that's on hold.

Try adding malaria, world community grid and milky way and see if any difference.
Try running as admin.
Let us know what fixes it; that's a very rare problem.

Thanks,
Rob H.



I am already cpu mining on all of those projects and I am also running as admin as well with BOINC in default install directory...



***Edit***
LOL, I apparently was not running as admin, I had been entirely up to this point, not sure how the option got unchecked. All issues have been fixed


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 08:00:05 PM
Good deal.... I've been debugging the net thread error today and I made some headway; will be releasing a new version later and I think this will solve our second problem.

BTW, I called an authenticode (for a code signing license) company yesterday and they explained to me code signing the EXE as gridcoin won't remove the warning if the heuristics of cgminer make it show as a known virus LOL; they recommended I offer a second download for cgminer....

Rob H.

PS Regarding the block explorer:  A user reported that the numbers were randomly increasing-decreasing.  We have two block explorers; the first one was running on a defective machine and wasn't connected to the wallet.  I modified the code to go forward only and resynced the second node; this should permanently fix this problem.







Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 27, 2013, 08:17:27 PM
Good deal.... I've been debugging the net thread error today and I made some headway; will be releasing a new version later and I think this will solve our second problem.

BTW, I called an authenticode (for a code signing license) company yesterday and they explained to me code signing the EXE as gridcoin won't remove the warning if the heuristics of cgminer make it show as a known virus LOL; they recommended I offer a second download for cgminer....

Rob H.

LOL, either that or at least a spot somewhere near the download that explains why they are seeing the warning.

But if you can find a way to link to one of the older scrypt-compatible versions of cgminer (newer versions are not scrypt-capable), make it convenient for users to download, setup and run while still having Gridcoin communicate with it, I think that would be the most desirable course of action that way you can remove the malicious software warning entirely...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 08:29:38 PM
Yeah that's a good idea; because not only will it remove the warning but it will let the user choose their own version of cgminer (64 bit / 32 bit), one that doesn't crash for them, and maybe I can have gridcoin move the files automatically, etc...



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 08:30:12 PM
New Version Available (1.1.4.8/6.3/48): Upgrade from the RPC: Yes.

In this version we close all TCP sockets, stop the network thread, and restart the network thread once every 20 minutes
to help isolate the problem where the node stops communicating until it is restarted.  

Best Regards,
Rob Halford

PS If anyone receives failure to upgrade bad webhttprequest, Ill be fixing that by extending the download timeout eventually; for now- reexecute the Upgrade command and try again;


Title: Feature Request
Post by: KleinMatthias on December 27, 2013, 09:42:03 PM
Hi,

Since not all users of this coin are as active as you are, may I ask for a feature in a future wallet version?

Please implement one of the following features:
1) an autoupdate feature which automatically keeps the QT updated without the user doing anything (or with the user just clicking an "update" button which only appears when new updates are available - but where the entire update process is done automatically)
2) a notification feature where the user can enter his eMail address into the wallet and the wallet sends him an eMail when a new version is available? That requires - of course - that the wallet has a way to check for updates. But since Microsoft/Apple/Adobe/andalltheothers can do it, so can you :-)
3) (for those who don't even run their QT all the time) a notification feature where the user can enter his eMail address into the wallet and the wallet sends that eMail address plus its own version information to a central server of yours which then sends out an eMail when a new software version is available. And which sends a warning eMail when a mantatory update has to be performed.

Naturally, as of today, the Cryptocurrency-community has been very active but with the price explosion of the Bitcoin last month, more and more "normal users" will enter the market.
They will not keep their wallet running all the time.
They will not check the forum all the time.
But they might spend hard cash on buying this coin at an exchange and then send it over to their wallet. As a community, we even need that kind of passive user - and we need their money buying this coin.
And when they find ways to spend or donate the coin, they will. And for that purpose they will open their wallets - but not in between.

Having said this, I personally prefer feature (3) because it has a few advantage over the other 2:

  • It keeps even those "passive" users in the loop that do not run their wallet regularily.
  • That way, if a really important change has to be made (e.g. a new blockchain), even those users won't lose their money because they get a notification. Think of the bad publicity when "normal users" start losing their money because they simply ignored their wallets for months only to find them not working anymore because weeks before, a new blockchain or equally invasive measure was introduced without them knowing.
  • That feature can be extended for marketing purposes: add a checkmark "the makers of this coin are allowed to send me exciting news about this coin yaddayaddaya" - and voila you get yourself a free marketing database with tons of eMail addresses that you can use to keep engaging your users. Notify them of new shops where they can pay with this currency. Notify them of faucets. Notify them of exchanges that trade this coin. Notify them of the rise in value of that coin. And so on. Just keep engaging even the passive users - because to make a currency successful, you need every hand and every dollar you can get.

You guys and all the other professionals or those that have privacy concerns won't use that feature - and should never be required to do so. But the regular passive user will get that fuzzy feeling that he will be informed of important stuff without him spending much time checking bitcointalk or their wallets. And that will give him extra confidence when it comes to him spending the coin or buying the coin with his FIAT.

Just a few additional remarks:

  • Naturally, the best possible combination would be (3) with (1) where the users gets a "move your ass and update your wallet or else..." eMail (friendly version, of course) - and then he opens the wallet and clicks on the "update" button and that's it for him.
  • May be the required serverside portion (the thing that collects all version information and the eMail addresses and which also allows for sending out mass eMails to all users in that database) could be written in a generic way so that other virtual currencies can implement that feature, too?
  • May be, future wallets should have a default setting that causes them to run in the background as a service whenever the computer starts. That way, even many passive users will contribute to the P2P network without them even knowing. But that was just a sideline remark and describes a completely different feature request. But then again, while you are at it... :-)

Don't know. What do you guys think about that feature request?
Does anyone second that request?
Does anyone have a better idea how to solve the above mentioned challenges that this new species of regular, passive users will introduce in the weeks and months to come?

Thanks
Matt
GRC: GCehNw1ywW9Qr7J9f9Mxc8xQh3MswwX98c


P.S. Just a full disclosure: I have posted this same feature request to the thread of some other cryptocurrencies as well.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 27, 2013, 10:00:12 PM
Hi Matt,

Yeah in my opinion first off I don't really want to keep such a high level of releases as Im sure it is hard for everyone to upgrade, its a short term problem we are going through; however I do see the value in your three proposed ideas.

There are a lot of features on the list so I have to prioritize things that make it next; for example right now Im working on the SQL Query analyzer for gridcoin.

Back to the point; what we could probably do to keep the relationship anonymous with the user is have the wallet check the current version when it is booted and if the official version is greater it will just ask a question on the screen - Version 1.1.4.9 is available, would you like to upgrade?  If they press Yes, it does everything by itself; we can also have a key in the config file to disable that feature if you don't want it  such as:
autoupgrade=always
autoupgrade=never

What do you think?
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Sp1k4h on December 27, 2013, 11:34:24 PM
I think that might be wonderful, since the updates are (fortunately for us) being released daily to fix every bug you can :)
Thanks for you hard work!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 28, 2013, 01:05:56 PM
I really need help. It's 3 days that i try to mine gridcoin without any result.

Here, what i did.

1)I downloaded the lastest version 1.1.4.8.

2)I created the gridcoin.conf

rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=9332
server=1
gen=0
addnode=98.114.181.178
addnode=76.187.184.27:9778
addnode=66.187.94.194:9778
addnode=76.74.177.224:9778
addnode=84.125.196.167:9778
addnode=71.233.139.62:9778
addnode=72.92.48.105:97788

3)I started the wallet, and it succesfully sincronyed without any problem

4)I started my BOINC client, with WCG project running at 100% cpu

5)i started cgminer 3.7.2 with this string:

cgminer.exe --scrypt -o 127.0.0.1:9332 -u user -p pass --gpu-threads 2 --thread-concurrency 7168  -I 13 -g 1

but it says: POOL 0 slow/donw or Url or credential invalid

But user and pass are the same of .conf! I'm sure! any help?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 28, 2013, 01:26:00 PM

2)I created the gridcoin.conf


One starting point is to double-check the path to the conf file and make sure its file type is really conf (not gridcoin.conf.txt for instance).

The file path to the conf file should be something like C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\Gridcoin

Good luck - I'm sure you're very close to getting it working.



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 28, 2013, 03:15:59 PM
thanks! a little step forward.

Now, cgminer works fine, but i have boinc utilizzation 66% when it would be 100% and, also, i see no hashrate on cgminer API in Grindcoin mining module.

I red the posts before, and i've already tried to write lodctr /r from an elevated prompt, and restart gridcoin-qt, but nothing changed.

I'm missing something...but what?

edit: my boinc thread counter is 4, and that's correct, and my boinc avg daily credits is 339...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 28, 2013, 03:23:10 PM
When it gets to 8 days, how long does it stay there?

I've tried to DL the qt 3 times and then tried the .msi file and still won't sync up. Keeps getting stuck at 8-9 days behind even after I restart it. Someone please help, I can't figure out how to fix it.

Try using the "Rebuild Block Chain" option, it seems to fix just about everything for me.

 I can't find that option. My mining console won't start up and neither will the project console

It's in the wallet to the right of "Projects"
There's nothing to the right of projects in my wallet, and i tried the conf idea above and nothing is working because these things you guys say are supposed to be there aren't.
You may have to download the latest 6.1 version; from gridcoin.us, download the MSI Prod version.
You should see a button "Rebuild Block Chain" on the main screen.

Rob H.


I don't see a 6.1 version on the site, even the beta is 5.7?

http://www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi - I downloaded from here and it is the latest version.

Ok, I'll try it again, but this is my fourth time DL this one lol

Edit: Holy crap, It actually shows the "Rebuild Blockchain" option this time, you the Man TribalBob :D


LOL, no worries m8! Just remember me when you get rich on GRC!!!    :D :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 28, 2013, 03:27:30 PM
thanks! a little step forward.

Now, cgminer works fine, but i have boinc utilizzation 66% when it would be 100% and, also, i see no hashrate on cgminer API in Grindcoin mining module.

I red the posts before, and i've already tried to write lodctr /r from an elevated prompt, and restart gridcoin-qt, but nothing changed.

I'm missing something...but what?

edit: my boinc thread counter is 4, and that's correct, and my boinc avg daily credits is 339...

Are you running Gridcoin as admin?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 28, 2013, 03:38:53 PM
thanks! a little step forward.

Now, cgminer works fine, but i have boinc utilizzation 66% when it would be 100% and, also, i see no hashrate on cgminer API in Grindcoin mining module.

I red the posts before, and i've already tried to write lodctr /r from an elevated prompt, and restart gridcoin-qt, but nothing changed.

I'm missing something...but what?

edit: my boinc thread counter is 4, and that's correct, and my boinc avg daily credits is 339...

Are you running Gridcoin as admin?

do you mean gridcoin-qt.exe? no.., but now i try running it as admin but nothing change :(
same exactly values i had before :(

do i need to run as admin also cgminer?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 28, 2013, 03:44:20 PM
thanks! a little step forward.

Now, cgminer works fine, but i have boinc utilizzation 66% when it would be 100% and, also, i see no hashrate on cgminer API in Grindcoin mining module.

I red the posts before, and i've already tried to write lodctr /r from an elevated prompt, and restart gridcoin-qt, but nothing changed.

I'm missing something...but what?

edit: my boinc thread counter is 4, and that's correct, and my boinc avg daily credits is 339...

Are you running Gridcoin as admin?

do you mean gridcoin-qt.exe? no.., but now i try running it as admin but nothing change :(
same exactly values i had before :(

do i need to run as admin aslo cgminer?

You don't need to run cgminer as admin but you do need to run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin.

All your BOINC info is displaying correctly then, yes...?

You are just missing cgminer hashrate info...? Are you running cgminer from inside the gridcoin client or are you starting an external instance of cgminer...?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 28, 2013, 03:52:01 PM
thanks! a little step forward.

Now, cgminer works fine, but i have boinc utilizzation 66% when it would be 100% and, also, i see no hashrate on cgminer API in Grindcoin mining module.

I red the posts before, and i've already tried to write lodctr /r from an elevated prompt, and restart gridcoin-qt, but nothing changed.

I'm missing something...but what?

edit: my boinc thread counter is 4, and that's correct, and my boinc avg daily credits is 339...

Are you running Gridcoin as admin?

do you mean gridcoin-qt.exe? no.., but now i try running it as admin but nothing change :(
same exactly values i had before :(

do i need to run as admin aslo cgminer?

You don't need to run cgminer as admin but you do need to run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin.

All your BOINC info is displaying correctly then, yes...?

You are just missing cgminer hashrate info...? Are you running cgminer from inside the gridcoin client or are you starting an external instance of cgminer...?

ok, i understand. I run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin, but boinc utilizzation 66% instead of 100%, and i don't see cgminer hashrate info.

I use an external instance of cgminer..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 28, 2013, 04:00:50 PM
thanks! a little step forward.

Now, cgminer works fine, but i have boinc utilizzation 66% when it would be 100% and, also, i see no hashrate on cgminer API in Grindcoin mining module.

I red the posts before, and i've already tried to write lodctr /r from an elevated prompt, and restart gridcoin-qt, but nothing changed.

I'm missing something...but what?

edit: my boinc thread counter is 4, and that's correct, and my boinc avg daily credits is 339...

Are you running Gridcoin as admin?

do you mean gridcoin-qt.exe? no.., but now i try running it as admin but nothing change :(
same exactly values i had before :(

do i need to run as admin aslo cgminer?

You don't need to run cgminer as admin but you do need to run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin.

All your BOINC info is displaying correctly then, yes...?

You are just missing cgminer hashrate info...? Are you running cgminer from inside the gridcoin client or are you starting an external instance of cgminer...?

ok, i understand. I run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin, but boinc utilizzation 66% instead of 100%, and i don't see cgminer hashrate info.

I use an external instance of cgminer..

Ok, gridcoin won't display hashrate info for external instances of cgminer, only if it's started from inside gridcoin.

As far as the utilization being wrong I'm not sure what is wrong there as it seems like you have things setup correctly. Double check your BOINC settings to make sure they are set to allow 100% usage, then while still in BOINC go to View> Advanced View> Advanced> Read local prefs file

After that go to "Activity" (still in BOINC) and select "Run based on preferences".


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 28, 2013, 07:22:09 PM
We are discussing some security enhancements based on a post Sunny King made (it wasn't really a bash) it was more of an observation he made that if a client finds a way to lie about their utilization (in our case, the avg daily credits), they are potentially receiving a higher subsidy than deserved; and obviously we want a coin that is 100% solid without any possible loophole.

Here is my proposed solution to closing the security gap the rest of the way:
 
1) Let us assume that bitcoins proof of work actually proves that a node generated a lot of heat and secured the block chain.
2) Let us assume that our GPU PoW (scrypt) + boinc credits prove that a user completed boinc tasks and secured the block chain: more useful.
3) A GPU user will look back over the last 30 days of history in the blockchain and pick a random public wallet; and attempt to verify the credits through the official project API (for that project).  A    "-1"     means that nodes credits were lower than the purported credits.  A +1 means it did match (or the nodes credits were even Higher than purported).  Other numbers are failures and dont count.  All project APIs are compiled into the code.
4) Any gridcoin gpu node that solves a block will "vouch" for the verified node, and add that vouching result to the boinchash in the chain.
5) The scrypt sleep algo will look back 30 days, compiling a list of total "confirmations" or voucher points for each wallet, and multiply that vouching sum * the (factored) avg_daily_credits per project.  The results will be sorted descending, and each node on the list will have between a 100% chance of working the next block and 40% chance depending on their position.
6) Users who ever find a way to defraud the system will be much lower, since 3rd party verifications include negatives.
7) Users who have the most positive confirmations will have the most avg_credits in the total, therefore have a higher chance of working the next block.
8) All this will be automated and compiled into every client so there is no central authority.
9) Out of this, we gain 100% provable integrity, AND we will be the first efficient coin with SCRYPT_SLEEP implemented!
 
Thoughts?
 
Grid



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 28, 2013, 07:26:41 PM
With the new scheme I think it has to be showing around 50-60 under full load and the other half comes from the averages over time. That is my understanding of it.

thanks! a little step forward.

Now, cgminer works fine, but i have boinc utilizzation 66% when it would be 100% and, also, i see no hashrate on cgminer API in Grindcoin mining module.

I red the posts before, and i've already tried to write lodctr /r from an elevated prompt, and restart gridcoin-qt, but nothing changed.

I'm missing something...but what?

edit: my boinc thread counter is 4, and that's correct, and my boinc avg daily credits is 339...

Are you running Gridcoin as admin?

do you mean gridcoin-qt.exe? no.., but now i try running it as admin but nothing change :(
same exactly values i had before :(

do i need to run as admin aslo cgminer?

You don't need to run cgminer as admin but you do need to run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin.

All your BOINC info is displaying correctly then, yes...?

You are just missing cgminer hashrate info...? Are you running cgminer from inside the gridcoin client or are you starting an external instance of cgminer...?

ok, i understand. I run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin, but boinc utilizzation 66% instead of 100%, and i don't see cgminer hashrate info.

I use an external instance of cgminer..


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Ardolafat on December 28, 2013, 09:46:02 PM
It looks like we have a microdust flooding vulnerability, i can't see any fees hardcoded in gridcoin client.

Solution: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2577


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 29, 2013, 12:27:18 AM
New version available at http://www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi
Release notes (1.1.4.9/6.4/49):

1. This version will need to be installed from the MSI; you will need to delete your program files (x86)\gridcoin directory before installing
   otherwise the installation will succeed and fail later.
2. We will be expanding the installer; however this release includes cgminer3.4 in cgminer.zip,
   a new query analyzer, and a new SQL server database.
3. An optional feature has been added for users who do not want any command line interfaces closed by gridcoin:
   Add the following key to your gridcoin.conf file: closeconhost=false
3b. More optional features: Set key closeguiminer=false to prevent guiminer from being closed (or closecgminer=false or closreaper=false).
    Note: Only add keys in step 3 or step 3b if your system requires it. 
4. We have removed the cgminer files since they show as a virus, now we zip up cgminer 3.4 - the master version is installed in the AppDir.
4b. OPTIONAL: If you would like to replace Gridcoin's cgminer version with your own version
   (Please see Con Colivas's downloads at :
       http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/
   )
   download the appropriate version and test it thoroughly (verify it supports scrypt also),
   then zip your version of cgminer
   as "cgminer.zip" and place it in your DataDir, and gridcoin will prefer that version when creating new instances in Mining | Configuration | GPU Miner Settings.
   Note: You should only include the EXE, kernel files (.cl files) and DLLs as we do in example file "cgminer.zip" (located in your gridcoin appdir).

5.  We Added scantime=7 to the cgminer create instance function,
   for quicker detection of new blocks when using cgminer.
6.  When adding a cgminer instance, gridcoin will unzip the cgminer.zip into the "cgminerX"
   instance directory and create the cgmX file.
7.  For our upcoming features related to 3rd party API checks, transaction confirms, CPU-only mining for boinc users,
   and scrypt_sleep, We decided to use SqlLite instead of MySql,
   due to packaging size considerations (MySQL is a 300 meg download
   and it requires the MySQL connector for each OS; we didnt want to add 306megs to the
   core program, and replicate that size to our future userbase of 25,000 machines ;). 

   So far, SQL Lite has been solid; we tested the standard insert update delete and order by;
    devs- please test an inner join.
8.  Added the Gridcoin sql query analyzer (it's still in its infancy). 
   You may access it by clicking "SQL Query Analyzer" from the main page.
8a.  So far, we have only added a few test tables: System, Blocks, and Peers. To keep from using system resources
   we insert one gridcoin block into the database every 10 seconds.  The peers are loaded once every half an hour.
   To do a sample query from query analyzer:
   Select * from Blocks
   Etc.  Or other ansi-92 standard queries.
   Inserts/updates do work, but will not be stored in the database after you click close.
   Note: Gridcoin has a master lock on the database, so you only receive a snapshot of the
   database when inside query analyzer, (this is to protect from errors during inserts by gridcoin),
   you will have to close the query analyzer window and re-open it to see new blocks.
8b.  The Results pane contains a data grid of the data; eventually we will make it copy and paste into excel, etc.
8c.  Note: For speed, you can type a query and press F5 instead of execute :)
9.  TribalBob: Please let us know if 4.3 fixes the cgminer version problem that you experienced;
    and also let us know if this fixes the virus scanner test.

Good luck!

Rob Halford


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: k33k on December 29, 2013, 12:34:15 AM
Wow, quite a few improvements there! That's the sort of development I like to see for altcoins.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 29, 2013, 11:16:32 AM
New version available at http://www.gridcoin.us/download/gridcoin.msi
Release notes (1.1.4.9/6.4/49):

1. This version will need to be installed from the MSI; you will need to delete your program files (x86)\gridcoin directory before installing
   otherwise the installation will succeed and fail later.
2. We will be expanding the installer; however this release includes cgminer3.4 in cgminer.zip,
   a new query analyzer, and a new SQL server database.
3. An optional feature has been added for users who do not want any command line interfaces closed by gridcoin:
   Add the following key to your gridcoin.conf file: closeconhost=false
3b. More optional features: Set key closeguiminer=false to prevent guiminer from being closed (or closecgminer=false or closreaper=false).
    Note: Only add keys in step 3 or step 3b if your system requires it. 
4. We have removed the cgminer files since they show as a virus, now we zip up cgminer 3.4 - the master version is installed in the AppDir.
4b. OPTIONAL: If you would like to replace Gridcoin's cgminer version with your own version
   (Please see Con Colivas's downloads at :
       http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/
   )
   download the appropriate version and test it thoroughly (verify it supports scrypt also),
   then zip your version of cgminer
   as "cgminer.zip" and place it in your DataDir, and gridcoin will prefer that version when creating new instances in Mining | Configuration | GPU Miner Settings.
   Note: You should only include the EXE, kernel files (.cl files) and DLLs as we do in example file "cgminer.zip" (located in your gridcoin appdir).

5.  We Added scantime=7 to the cgminer create instance function,
   for quicker detection of new blocks when using cgminer.
6.  When adding a cgminer instance, gridcoin will unzip the cgminer.zip into the "cgminerX"
   instance directory and create the cgmX file.
7.  For our upcoming features related to 3rd party API checks, transaction confirms, CPU-only mining for boinc users,
   and scrypt_sleep, We decided to use SqlLite instead of MySql,
   due to packaging size considerations (MySQL is a 300 meg download
   and it requires the MySQL connector for each OS; we didnt want to add 306megs to the
   core program, and replicate that size to our future userbase of 25,000 machines ;). 

   So far, SQL Lite has been solid; we tested the standard insert update delete and order by;
    devs- please test an inner join.
8.  Added the Gridcoin sql query analyzer (it's still in its infancy). 
   You may access it by clicking "SQL Query Analyzer" from the main page.
8a.  So far, we have only added a few test tables: System, Blocks, and Peers. To keep from using system resources
   we insert one gridcoin block into the database every 10 seconds.  The peers are loaded once every half an hour.
   To do a sample query from query analyzer:
   Select * from Blocks
   Etc.  Or other ansi-92 standard queries.
   Inserts/updates do work, but will not be stored in the database after you click close.
   Note: Gridcoin has a master lock on the database, so you only receive a snapshot of the
   database when inside query analyzer, (this is to protect from errors during inserts by gridcoin),
   you will have to close the query analyzer window and re-open it to see new blocks.
8b.  The Results pane contains a data grid of the data; eventually we will make it copy and paste into excel, etc.
8c.  Note: For speed, you can type a query and press F5 instead of execute :)
9.  TribalBob: Please let us know if 4.3 fixes the cgminer version problem that you experienced;
    and also let us know if this fixes the virus scanner test.

Good luck!

Rob Halford


Hi Rob,

Chrome still marks the download as malicious because of the packaged miners, any miners will likely cause the download to be flagged...

I will test with the packaged cgminer today when I get the chance and will let you know how it goes!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 29, 2013, 11:42:31 AM
@TribalBob: thx man for the suggestion, but nothing change :(


With the new scheme I think it has to be showing around 50-60 under full load and the other half comes from the averages over time. That is my understanding of it.

thanks! a little step forward.

Now, cgminer works fine, but i have boinc utilizzation 66% when it would be 100% and, also, i see no hashrate on cgminer API in Grindcoin mining module.

I red the posts before, and i've already tried to write lodctr /r from an elevated prompt, and restart gridcoin-qt, but nothing changed.

I'm missing something...but what?

edit: my boinc thread counter is 4, and that's correct, and my boinc avg daily credits is 339...

Are you running Gridcoin as admin?

do you mean gridcoin-qt.exe? no.., but now i try running it as admin but nothing change :(
same exactly values i had before :(

do i need to run as admin aslo cgminer?

You don't need to run cgminer as admin but you do need to run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin.

All your BOINC info is displaying correctly then, yes...?

You are just missing cgminer hashrate info...? Are you running cgminer from inside the gridcoin client or are you starting an external instance of cgminer...?

ok, i understand. I run gridcoin-qt.exe as admin, but boinc utilizzation 66% instead of 100%, and i don't see cgminer hashrate info.

I use an external instance of cgminer..

so do you have my problem too?? and if i find a block, i'll get 150 coins or not?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: ghuijnen on December 29, 2013, 01:36:18 PM

My taskmanager says I'm using 100% CPU, but Boinc says 53.
Is this correct?

Regards,
Guido


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 29, 2013, 02:34:04 PM

My taskmanager says I'm using 100% CPU, but Boinc says 53.
Is this correct?

Regards,
Guido

and gridcoin what does it say?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: ghuijnen on December 29, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
Sorry ment Boinc in the Gridcoin client.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 29, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
Sorry ment Boinc in the Gridcoin client.

uhm, so i'm not the only one with this problem. How many coins do you get for one block?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 29, 2013, 03:59:43 PM
Anyone having trouble with the boinc processing power number:


50% weight goes to the"Boinc Avg Daily Credits":  if you are lower than 1000,that is the culprit and is dragging down your total.  To get to 100, you need to increase those.

Other technical solutions:

-Ensure you are running gridcoin as admin
-for a very rare issue when performance counters are corrupted:
lodctr /r
from the command prompt
-Try adding projects such as milkyway, world community grid, rosetta

The system is working for 100 users, so rest assured the problem can be solved.

Thanks,
Grid



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 29, 2013, 04:00:31 PM
Sorry ment Boinc in the Gridcoin client.

uhm, so i'm not the only one with this problem. How many coins do you get for one block?
You receive 1.5 * the boinc processing power # on the mining console.

Thanks!

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Doublelucky on December 29, 2013, 04:04:29 PM
Hey guys.. not sure if it's been discussed yet here, but is GRC going to be hitting any exchanges soon? Or coinmarketcap?
Or is there still a bit of promo and debugging to be done first?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: ghuijnen on December 29, 2013, 04:17:10 PM
Hi Rob,

Thanks for your reply. But can I check the Boinc power? The Gridcoin wallet shows 53, but where is that coming from?

Guido


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 29, 2013, 04:18:31 PM
Regarding the exchange:
We were told http://www.ecrypto.net/ started trading gridcoin however I just went to the site and see a big cow on the front page; I hope for the sake of anyone who deposited BTC there they were not scammed.

We e-mailed all the exchanges who have more than 15 pairs.  We received a message from coins-e that they are considering gridcoin.

A cryptsy forum link @ the top of page 1.

Have not heard from Vircurex yet.

Thanks!

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 29, 2013, 04:20:04 PM
Hi Rob,

Thanks for your reply. But can I check the Boinc power? The Gridcoin wallet shows 53, but where is that coming from?

Guido
Look @ the release notes a few pages back for "homogenized boinc calculation"

Its 50% from 1/10th of your boinc avg daily credits that are on the screen, and 50% from your total boinc thread utilization.

Thanks!
Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: ghuijnen on December 29, 2013, 04:28:54 PM
Hi Rob,

Thanks for your reply. But can I check the Boinc power? The Gridcoin wallet shows 53, but where is that coming from?

Guido
Look @ the release notes a few pages back for "homogenized boinc calculation"

Its 50% from 1/10th of your boinc avg daily credits that are on the screen, and 50% from your total boinc thread utilization.

Thanks!
Grid


Hi Rob,

Can I use other PC's to increase the average?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 29, 2013, 04:36:42 PM
It looks like we have a microdust flooding vulnerability, i can't see any fees hardcoded in gridcoin client.

Solution: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2577

We already added the litecoin IsDust() function and you cant send any dust for less than .02 grc.  If you send .0001 for example, the fee is .02grc.

Best Regards,
Rob


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 29, 2013, 04:37:59 PM
Hi Rob,

Thanks for your reply. But can I check the Boinc power? The Gridcoin wallet shows 53, but where is that coming from?

Guido
Look @ the release notes a few pages back for "homogenized boinc calculation"

Its 50% from 1/10th of your boinc avg daily credits that are on the screen, and 50% from your total boinc thread utilization.

Thanks!
Grid


Hi Rob,

Can I use other PC's to increase the average?
No, sorry, it goes by the host daily_avg_credits (determined by the official project API);  so each host is separate.

Thanks!

Grid


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 29, 2013, 04:52:49 PM
Now that all the issues seem to have been worked out we should be ready for addition.

Hey guys.. not sure if it's been discussed yet here, but is GRC going to be hitting any exchanges soon? Or coinmarketcap?
Or is there still a bit of promo and debugging to be done first?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 29, 2013, 04:54:40 PM
Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go, the better!

Join Today!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on December 29, 2013, 06:42:15 PM
Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go, the better!

Join Today!

Suggestion for easy publicity (only the team captain can set this up) - join any/all relevant WCG team challenges as they come up. The team will inevitably win from time to time, and such wins (or near wins) can be publicized widely. They will also draw the attention of competing team members and some may be tempted to jump teams. Finally, our own team members might find it motivating to follow challenge progress - it provides one more reason to pay attention to the WCG site.

I was captain of a WCG team for a while and found this approach useful and fun. We (about six of us at the time) once beat a team someone had unwisely named "U.S. Army". We got a lot of bragging mileage out of that one.    :)

It takes about 10 minutes time once or twice a month for a captain to enter a team in all the challenges of the moment. Oh, BOINC challenges too, if you like, but in my experience they are more obscure, more geeky, and less valuable for PR purposes than the WCG challenges.

Challenges, ftw!

 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Jaerky on December 29, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Are any exchanges trading Gridcoin?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 29, 2013, 06:57:20 PM
From what I know, coins-e is considering adding Gridcoin.

Are any exchanges trading Gridcoin?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 29, 2013, 07:00:09 PM
Are any exchanges trading Gridcoin?
All we have for now is google docs Spreadsheet.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 29, 2013, 07:00:57 PM
From what I know, coins-e is considering adding Gridcoin.

Are any exchanges trading Gridcoin?
As wrote GridCoin, there is big picture of Cow now :\
Oh, sorry i became confused by domain names >_<


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: johnatx on December 29, 2013, 07:44:25 PM
Another suggestion,
I think we need to support CPU mining sooner than later.
This way we can attract more native BOINC users to join the Gridcoin team.
Not sure how we ensure they are in Gridcoin team before we can account the BOINC credits for POW work.

Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go, the better!

Join Today!

Suggestion for easy publicity (only the team captain can set this up) - join any/all relevant WCG team challenges as they come up. The team will inevitably win from time to time, and such wins (or near wins) can be publicized widely. They will also draw the attention of competing team members and some may be tempted to jump teams. Finally, our own team members might find it motivating to follow challenge progress - it provides one more reason to pay attention to the WCG site.

I was captain of a WCG team for a while and found this approach useful and fun. We (about six of us at the time) once beat a team someone had unwisely named "U.S. Army". We got a lot of bragging mileage out of that one.    :)

It takes about 10 minutes time once or twice a month for a captain to enter a team in all the challenges of the moment. Oh, BOINC challenges too, if you like, but in my experience they are more obscure, more geeky, and less valuable for PR purposes than the WCG challenges.

Challenges, ftw!

 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: asdlolciterquit on December 29, 2013, 08:43:49 PM
Anyone having trouble with the boinc processing power number:


50% weight goes to the"Boinc Avg Daily Credits":  if you are lower than 1000,that is the culprit and is dragging down your total.  To get to 100, you need to increase those.

Other technical solutions:

-Ensure you are running gridcoin as admin
-for a very rare issue when performance counters are corrupted:
lodctr /r
from the command prompt
-Try adding projects such as milkyway, world community grid, rosetta

The system is working for 100 users, so rest assured the problem can be solved.

Thanks,
Grid



i'm not sure i have undestand well: if i want 100 Boinc processing power, i need to increase my Boinc Avg Daily Credits. Now i have 300 Boinc Avg Daily Credits...if i get 1000, i will have 100 Boinc processing power? and to get 1000 i have to use boinc for more hours at day?

thanks!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: zulzedd on December 30, 2013, 07:04:50 AM
I'm not sure too... Yesterday i got 50 (straight) BOINC utilization while i had 1730 avg. daily credits, and got accepted 2 block with reward 75 GRC. After this i restarted wallet/miner/BOINC and got 100 utilization  ???


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 30, 2013, 03:28:11 PM
Just had this error this morning:
Code:
Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name: CLR20r3
  Problem Signature 01: gridcoin-qt.exe
  Problem Signature 02: 0.8.5.1
  Problem Signature 03: 52bf5f4c
  Problem Signature 04: SQLite.NET
  Problem Signature 05: 0.21.1869.3794
  Problem Signature 06: 420cc9f5
  Problem Signature 07: 161
  Problem Signature 08: 3b
  Problem Signature 09: System.AccessViolationException
  OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
  Locale ID: 1033
  Additional Information 1: 8189
  Additional Information 2: 81898da2f12cbbe34c2d9de731501f01
  Additional Information 3: b9f2
  Additional Information 4: b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: fxmulder on December 30, 2013, 03:36:07 PM
Is there a way to git clone this without having to download the 150MB of useless binaries?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 30, 2013, 03:43:14 PM
Yes cpu mining will be great for people who don't have powerful gpu or can not afford one. Now a lot of AMD gpu are sold out everywhere and prices have risen quite a bit.

Another suggestion,
I think we need to support CPU mining sooner than later.
This way we can attract more native BOINC users to join the Gridcoin team.
Not sure how we ensure they are in Gridcoin team before we can account the BOINC credits for POW work.

Make sure to join Team Gridcoin @ the world community grid. http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=BBNGDQS832

You can join directly from Boinc too.

We have already jumped a few thousand spots with all the recent influx of new people joining. The higher we go, the better!

Join Today!

Suggestion for easy publicity (only the team captain can set this up) - join any/all relevant WCG team challenges as they come up. The team will inevitably win from time to time, and such wins (or near wins) can be publicized widely. They will also draw the attention of competing team members and some may be tempted to jump teams. Finally, our own team members might find it motivating to follow challenge progress - it provides one more reason to pay attention to the WCG site.

I was captain of a WCG team for a while and found this approach useful and fun. We (about six of us at the time) once beat a team someone had unwisely named "U.S. Army". We got a lot of bragging mileage out of that one.    :)

It takes about 10 minutes time once or twice a month for a captain to enter a team in all the challenges of the moment. Oh, BOINC challenges too, if you like, but in my experience they are more obscure, more geeky, and less valuable for PR purposes than the WCG challenges.

Challenges, ftw!

 


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 31, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
Just had this error this morning:
Code:
Problem signature:
    Problem Signature 04: SQLite.NET
  Problem Signature 05: 0.21.1869.3794
  OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
  Additional Information 4: b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

Bob, has the sql query analyzer worked for you at all or does this happen everytime?
Try ensuring the program files \ gridcoin directory is r/w (possibly take ownership of it)?
We may have to move the database to datadir; I will add that to my list.

Try deleting the file "gridcoin" with no extension and "gridcoin_ro" with no extension (in the appdir), and test to see if SQL works at all.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: konfet on December 31, 2013, 04:00:08 PM
Not worked on windows 2012 server x64. Bad. Mining console doesn't appear


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 31, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
Just had this error this morning:
Code:
Problem signature:
    Problem Signature 04: SQLite.NET
  Problem Signature 05: 0.21.1869.3794
  OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
  Additional Information 4: b9f2bc089d5b611f83c3acf3a1385464

Bob, has the sql query analyzer worked for you at all or does this happen everytime?
Try ensuring the program files \ gridcoin directory is r/w (possibly take ownership of it)?
We may have to move the database to datadir; I will add that to my list.

Try deleting the file "gridcoin" with no extension and "gridcoin_ro" with no extension (in the appdir), and test to see if SQL works at all.

Thanks,
Rob H.


Ok, %\Program Files (x86)\Gridcoin was indeed read-only, I have corrected it and will see if this fixes the issue. It seems that it was happening once every 24 hours in the early a.m. hours.

Also, I have been testing with the packaged cgminer and it runs but I am still having issues with it bogging down my system launching it from within Gridcoin using my standard settings...

The odd part is that if I run it from command line in the same directory it works just fine, so it has to be the interface between Gridcoin and cgminer's API or a potential port conflict with the cgminer API port...

I will test with different API ports today when I get the chance but I recommend we change it anyway as port 4000 is a remote-anything port...



***EDIT***
Please push the latest version of the source to github...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Mattzees on December 31, 2013, 05:53:33 PM
Okay, I'm in.  Hope to be throwing some Mhash at this in the next couple of days.  Thanks for doing this project.  I like it a lot.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 31, 2013, 06:00:50 PM
It seems the network speed an difficulty seem to be rising lately.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: nexter on December 31, 2013, 06:05:23 PM
So far so good! My compliments to the dev team, for the number of functions and integration's with the client. It has been the simplest, most appealing and professional experience for a not so techie. Excellent work!


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 31, 2013, 06:09:23 PM
It seems the network speed an difficulty seem to be rising lately.

Yup, seems to fluctuate between ~100k and ~200k (cgminer difficulty), there's someone out there with a lot of hashing power who is making a lot of coin by running the difficulty up and down, hopping on and off the chain and jumping back in when the difficulty is low and riding the diff back up before he hops off again...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: traderman on December 31, 2013, 06:14:30 PM
As long as he is donating some power to Boinc, I suppose all is good.

It seems the network speed an difficulty seem to be rising lately.

Yup, seems to fluctuate between ~100k and ~200k (cgminer difficulty), there's someone out there with a lot of hashing power who is making a lot of coin by running the difficulty up and down, hopping on and off the chain and jumping back in when the difficulty is low and riding the diff back up before he hops off again...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 31, 2013, 06:16:59 PM
As long as he is donating some power to Boinc, I suppose all is good.

It seems the network speed an difficulty seem to be rising lately.

Yup, seems to fluctuate between ~100k and ~200k (cgminer difficulty), there's someone out there with a lot of hashing power who is making a lot of coin by running the difficulty up and down, hopping on and off the chain and jumping back in when the difficulty is low and riding the diff back up before he hops off again...

Yeah, I'm not complaining, just merely stating an observation...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: bitcoinrocks on December 31, 2013, 06:19:44 PM
Is this coin on any exchanges?


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 31, 2013, 06:20:20 PM
Is this coin on any exchanges?

Just this one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av3jjlvLSeOSdDdQSWtqS2dZbVdUWUZ1dWp5ZTJqSHc&usp=sharing#gid=39


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: monopodman on December 31, 2013, 06:20:48 PM
Gridcoin? More like Greedcoin


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: TribalBob on December 31, 2013, 06:50:46 PM
Gridcoin? More like Greedcoin

...? Greedcoin...?

This is a coin that rewards you for contributing computing power to scientific and technological advances...

Far less greedy than buying and selling bitcoins/alt-coins purely for profit... Other than being a decentralized currency (which Gridcoin ALSO is) what are Bitcoin and 99% of the other coins really contributing to the world...?  ::)


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 31, 2013, 09:18:05 PM
Is there a way to git clone this without having to download the 150MB of useless binaries?
Yeah, we need to mark those binaries as gitignore; I have about 9 items on my list for the holiday; Ill try to remove those later tonight -
Bob - I will upload the latest after I fix the gitignore flags-

Rob H


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 31, 2013, 09:20:10 PM
Not worked on windows 2012 server x64. Bad. Mining console doesn't appear
Konfet-

Try downloading, unblocking the download as safe, install as admin, close gridcoin, reinstall the MSI, click Repair Gridcoin, then finish and re-launch as admin.
I think it might work on 2012 x64. 

If it does not work, give us the reason and the logs, thanks
Rob H


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Gridcoin on December 31, 2013, 09:21:44 PM
Is this coin on any exchanges?
Ecrypto.net ; but there is still a big cow on their front page;  If you like the coin please sign the "please accept us on cryptsy" on page 1! Thanks!

Rob H.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: Inrideo on December 31, 2013, 09:33:29 PM
Useless troll with sig for a different coin comes here to whine.

Gridcoin? More like Greedcoin


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: A L I E N on December 31, 2013, 11:15:16 PM
Is this coin on any exchanges?
Ecrypto.net ; but there is still a big cow on their front page;


I don't think that was ever a legitimate operation...


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: konfet on January 01, 2014, 08:01:29 AM
Not worked on windows 2012 server x64. Bad. Mining console doesn't appear
Konfet-

Try downloading, unblocking the download as safe, install as admin, close gridcoin, reinstall the MSI, click Repair Gridcoin, then finish and re-launch as admin.
I think it might work on 2012 x64.  

If it does not work, give us the reason and the logs, thanks
Rob H

On windows 7 x64 even with boinc_7.2.34_windows_x86_64.exe started normally and show BOINC utilization.
So on windows server 2012 it's started, but the popup windows on "mining console", "email center" "project console", "sql query analyzer" not shown. Of course i installed, reinstalled both GRID and BOINC many times, started it with admin rights (local admin, domain admin). It's not showing windows. Used both RDP and local access.
Also i didn't find point 9 ( http://www.gridcoin.us/download/GridCoinMiningInstructions.pdf ) in program started on windows 7 x64.
And now, please say what files, logs should i give to you ?

ps: other coin wallets started and worked normally.
pps: if you cannot connect with your project manager or if you have such error: "Scheduler request failed: Error 417"; try add file cc_config.xml, containing
Code:
<cc_config>
<options>
<http_1_0>1</http_1_0>
</options>
</cc_config>
in your BOINC DATA directory.


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: lmue on January 01, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
Gridcoin is even not listed in the topic of "List of all cryptocoins" in this forum. I suggest that we reply GRC in that topic.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0


Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aigeezer on January 01, 2014, 03:34:23 PM
Gridcoin is even not listed in the topic of "List of all cryptocoins" in this forum. I suggest that we reply GRC in that topic.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0

Good idea. I see Gridcoin just posted there and I did one.

Not to nag, but would you add us to some team challenges at WCG and/or BOINC-BAM? Only the team captain can do it. I'm pretty sure we'll win a few, even at this early stage. Thanks!



Title: Re: Gridcoin (GRC) - first coin utilizing BOINC - Official Thread
Post by: aliens on January 01, 2014, 05:11:22 PM
Hey!

Been playing around with Gridcoin, my first attempt at mining cryptocurrency, and I found a bug with the cgminer instance config generation. I described it over here (http://"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=390943.msg4207979") and will try to summarize it:

Here's how the configuration panel looks in gridcoin-qt:

http://i.imgur.com/3IjiHHP.png

After creating the cgminer instance, cgminer wouldn't start. Here's some info:

Code:
cgminer.exe -c cgm0 -T
 [2013-12-29 23:33:00] Started cgminer 3.4.0
 [2013-12-29 23:33:00] Loaded configuration file cgm0
 [2013-12-29 23:33:00] clDevicesNum returned error, no GPUs usable

 [2013-12-29 23:33:00] Command line options set a device that doesn't exist

Code:
cgminer.exe -n
 [2013-12-29 23:33:22] CL Platform 0 vendor: Intel(R) Corporation

 [2013-12-29 23:33:22] CL Platform 0 name: Intel(R) OpenCL
 [2013-12-29 23:33:22] CL Platform 0 version: OpenCL 1.1
 [2013-12-29 23:33:22] Error -1: Getting Device IDs (num)
 [2013-12-29 23:33:22] CL Platform 1 vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

 [2013-12-29 23:33:22] CL Platform 1 name: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing

 [2013-12-29 23:33:22] CL Platform 1 version: OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1348.5)

 [2013-12-29 23:33:22] Platform 1 devices: 1
 [2013-12-29 23:33:22]  0       Pitcairn
 [2013-12-29 23:33:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1

 [2013-12-29 23:33:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1

 [2013-12-29 23:33:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1

 [2013-12-29 23:33:23] GPU 0 AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series hardware monitoring enab