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Title: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: InwardContour on November 04, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Heads up for newbies:

we have not heard from TF yet, but there may be some sort of security compromise on inputs.io. people are reporting that their wallets are being cleaned out and bitcoins sent to this address: https://blockchain.info/address/15Ctwosw7VCNHp5Rp1ZoviLaV41nZ59spx

it now has over 28 btcs.

see reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pw46j/someone_just_transferred_0095_from_my_inputsio/

as a precaution, i suggest immediately moving any funds on deposit to a bitcoin wallet that you have full control over.

TF, speak up, please.

Update, 11/7/13: inputs.io "hacked" almost 2 weeks ago. meanwhile TradeFortress has been allowing people to continue to deposit into Inputs and Coinlenders the whole time. now he's issuing "partial refunds".

you look shady as hell, TradeFortress.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: niktitan132 on November 04, 2013, 09:05:08 PM
I get hacked too.From my wallet was sent arround 0.2445 BTC and only left 1 dollar in BTC in the Inputs.io wallet.
The BTC go to this address https://blockchain.info/address/15Ctwosw7VCNHp5Rp1ZoviLaV41nZ59spx   too!!!

http://i.tinyuploads.com/glnEd2.png


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: Sword Smith on November 04, 2013, 09:06:28 PM
Please enlighten us how Inputs.io works. I thought it worked like Blockchains' Mywallet?


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: InwardContour on November 04, 2013, 09:10:23 PM
Please enlighten us how Inputs.io works. I thought it worked like Blockchains' Mywallet?
it is not like blockchain, which is an actual wallet you can download/back up. inputs is a shared / hosted wallet, meaning your wallet is not really YOUR wallet. it just has a database that shows an amount of BTC based on the addressess linked to you.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: DiamondCardz on November 04, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
Please enlighten us how Inputs.io works. I thought it worked like Blockchains' Mywallet?

It's a gigantic mixer.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2013, 09:16:03 PM
It's offchain. No distributed confirmations, no fees.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 04, 2013, 09:16:33 PM
Why am I not surprised?  How many times did I tell people that inputs.io is a bank account and not a wallet.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: InwardContour on November 04, 2013, 09:18:08 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248803.msg3482410#msg3482410
^^ TF has responded and says anyone affected will be reimbursed.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: InwardContour on November 04, 2013, 09:18:40 PM
Why am I not surprised?  How many times did I tell people that inputs.io is a bank account and not a wallet.
Isn't it like one of the best amongst the online ones?
except we put all our trust in TF that the security features are ACTUALLY secure -- they may not be.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 04, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
OK, withdrawn all funds from there until further notice; hopefully TF will keep us informed because this is a critical issue!


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: Injust on November 04, 2013, 09:37:53 PM
TradeFortress has given an update on this issue at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248803.msg3482410#msg3482410.

The attacker was able to empty the balance on accounts with the API key enabled. The issue is being actively looked upon. API access has been disabled.

Everyone who has lost money will be fully reimbursed.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: BarkinTree on November 04, 2013, 09:45:04 PM
i am glad people will be reimbursed but this is very worrisome! how will we feel safe with our $ there?!


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: gweedo on November 04, 2013, 09:46:36 PM
Why am I not surprised?  How many times did I tell people that inputs.io is a bank account and not a wallet.

People are stupid, that is why.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: BarkinTree on November 04, 2013, 09:47:54 PM
Why am I not surprised?  How many times did I tell people that inputs.io is a bank account and not a wallet.
Isn't it like one of the best amongst the online ones?
except we put all our trust in TF that the security features are ACTUALLY secure -- they may not be.

TF will fix this and refund everyone. Nothing to worry about :)
i am not worried about that. it is only 28 btc. he has much more to spare i am sure. i am worried when 5000 btc gets stolen.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 04, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
Storing that much btc on an online wallet isn't smart :p

How about 5 BTC from 1,000 people?


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: Sword Smith on November 04, 2013, 09:53:03 PM
There has been a lot of hype about inputs.io lately. I have not gotten to know it, though. Why all the hype? What are its positive features?


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on November 04, 2013, 09:54:18 PM
I really like the interface of inputs.io and have used it quite a bit recently, but only for a few mBTC, not much more than that.

Offline storage for serious money, never forget.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: Birdy on November 04, 2013, 10:04:10 PM
There has been a lot of hoope about inputs.io lately. I have not gotten to know it, though. Why all the hype? What are its positive features?

- slick design/interface (I like it a lot)
- offchain transactions (with no fee)
- built in mixer
- several security features that can protect against malware on the user end stealing Btc

the big disadvantage is that you have to trust TF and his security.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: intron on November 04, 2013, 10:19:41 PM
Tried to clear out my account:

"Sending has failed. The hot pocket may be empty. We have being notified of this."

intron


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: BitChick on November 04, 2013, 10:27:54 PM
My account was breached too.  I had very little in there, thankfully!  BitChicksHusband was not happy because he told me to move them.  I guess hubby is smarter than me. ;)  There.  He has it writing now!  ;D


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: austin on November 04, 2013, 10:36:04 PM
Tried to clear out my account:

"Sending has failed. The hot pocket may be empty. We have being notified of this."

intron
TradeFortress only has so much in his "hot pocket" at once for immediate payments. You'll probably receive your money after he sorts out the issue.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: monbux on November 04, 2013, 10:46:21 PM
Why am I not surprised?  How many times did I tell people that inputs.io is a bank account and not a wallet.
Isn't it like one of the best amongst the online ones?

This wallet is dependable on trust.
If you trust TF, you trust the wallet.
I trust TF, but I'm not sure about this potential hacker, any confirmation on it?
Or just a really, really bad glitch?

Edit: Nevermind, it was a hacker, huh.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: monbux on November 04, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
Tried to clear out my account:

"Sending has failed. The hot pocket may be empty. We have being notified of this."

intron

I sent a bit of my coins right now to btc-e./  No problem o.O
Could you try sending again?


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: intron on November 04, 2013, 10:56:29 PM
Tried to clear out my account:

"Sending has failed. The hot pocket may be empty. We have being notified of this."

intron

I sent a bit of my coins right now to btc-e./  No problem o.O
Could you try sending again?

Was able to move 10 btc, not the 22 btc I wanted.

intron


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: BarkinTree on November 04, 2013, 11:29:35 PM
does it really say "hot pocket" or are you guys just messing with me?  :D


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: intron on November 04, 2013, 11:34:02 PM
does it really say "hot pocket" or are you guys just messing with me?  :D

https://i.imgur.com/CxZbPOf.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ust_Er_oX5A


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: exstasie on November 04, 2013, 11:59:05 PM
Does anyone know how the hacker got the information, what kind of breach it was?


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 05, 2013, 04:41:07 AM
My account was breached too.  I had very little in there, thankfully!  BitChicksHusband was not happy because he told me to move them.  I guess hubby is smarter than me. ;)  There.  He has it writing now!  ;D

You don't need it in writing when it is obvious to everyone... ;)


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: mindfulmojo on November 05, 2013, 05:28:49 AM
I don't trust the website, I don't know about the owner... He could be a great guy.

This site has it listed, but doesn't always mean it's a scam. Always do your research.

http://bitcoinscammers.com/inputs-io/


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: bitcoindigi on November 05, 2013, 09:42:41 AM
bitcoinscammers is a useless site tbh.

I guess everyone and his mother is trying to get their coins out, that's why the hot pocket is empty.

The security breach only affected API users (faucet owner, just dice and so on)


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: gweedo on November 05, 2013, 04:45:26 PM
The security breach only affected API users (faucet owner, just dice and so on)

Actually some people came forward and say that they didn't have api access on but there coins were stolen. So clearly this is a bigger hole than anyone thought.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: BarkinTree on November 05, 2013, 07:01:45 PM
The security breach only affected API users (faucet owner, just dice and so on)

Actually some people came forward and say that they didn't have api access on but there coins were stolen. So clearly this is a bigger hole than anyone thought.
links please? i have not heard this from anyone, and i have been looking all over the forums for all threads related to this issue.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: gweedo on November 05, 2013, 07:08:52 PM
The security breach only affected API users (faucet owner, just dice and so on)

Actually some people came forward and say that they didn't have api access on but there coins were stolen. So clearly this is a bigger hole than anyone thought.
links please? i have not heard this from anyone, and i have been looking all over the forums for all threads related to this issue.

Read the official inputs thread, I will look for the links later.


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: InwardContour on November 07, 2013, 09:45:44 AM
so apparently TF kept most of the coins in a hot wallet, had it compromised, and is now crying "hacker." thousands of bitcoins lost for anyone with funds on coinlenders and inputs.io.

there ought to be some discussion about the circumstances of this "hack".

anyone out funds? he's apparently doing "partial refunds" for people who held > 1 btc.

i should have seen this guy's long con a long time ago. FML


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: KeepIt300D on November 07, 2013, 10:07:50 AM
Someone's making bank. Is there nothing you can do even tho you have the address? Seems like a bit of a flaw in the bitcoin system, people can just steal with no questions asked.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: young3dvard on November 07, 2013, 10:34:43 AM
Someone's making bank. Is there nothing you can do even tho you have the address? Seems like a bit of a flaw in the bitcoin system, people can just steal with no questions asked.

No, theft is theft.
And if his server security was not good, he is still liable for any loses made.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: young3dvard on November 07, 2013, 10:43:07 AM
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I didn't lose that much, so I hope the people who had larger amounts in their wallet will get refunded.

4100+ BTC stolen, If 1 mil USD is nothing for TF, people can be refunded. I personally doubt it, it seems to me as TF scam, because of keeping so much in hot wallet  >:(


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: funnnd on November 07, 2013, 11:22:38 AM
is blockchain.info still safe now? ???


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: b!z on November 07, 2013, 11:23:48 AM
Hi everyone,
I started a thread on the refund process here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326937.0

Hopefully people will be able to get some of their BTC back.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Sindelar1938 on November 07, 2013, 01:24:31 PM
Extremely concerning

I imagine it will be a while before folks trust inputs.io again


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: timma05 on November 07, 2013, 01:38:01 PM
Looks like I lost my .35 btc that I had in there... This sucks


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Injust on November 07, 2013, 01:39:15 PM
Looks like I lost my .35 btc that I had in there... This sucks

Do none of you people know that you can get a (partial) refund? GO AND READ THE THREADS BEFORE YOU START POSTING ABOUT WHAT YOU LOST.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on November 07, 2013, 01:58:32 PM
Looks like I lost my .35 btc that I had in there... This sucks

What about my coins there? If you stored more than 1 BTC, send an email to support@inputs.io with a Bitcoin address (preferably, an offline, open source light/SPV wallet like Multibit or Electrum). Use the same email you're using on Inputs. Please don't store Bitcoins on an internet connected device, regardless of it is your own or a service's.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: deadlyninja on November 08, 2013, 12:32:39 AM
Wow that really sucks. Why do people trust others with their wallet? Why not just hold the coins yourself?


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Amitabh S on November 12, 2013, 06:57:34 AM
Looks like I lost my .35 btc that I had in there... This sucks

What about my coins there? If you stored more than 1 BTC, send an email to support@inputs.io with a Bitcoin address (preferably, an offline, open source light/SPV wallet like Multibit or Electrum). Use the same email you're using on Inputs. Please don't store Bitcoins on an internet connected device, regardless of it is your own or a service's.


What about people with less than 1 BTC?
I filed a claim for 0.0025 BTC and you are asking for a government issued photo id
This is insane! Especially for the amount claimed. Why do you need an ID? You have been hacked, not me.

Some questions for you (TF) to ponder about:

- Why would someone trust their ID to a site that was hacked?
- Why would someone trust their ID to a site whose operator's ID is not known / wants to be anonymous?
- I sent the email from the same email address I registered with. Why do you need an ID now? ID was not needed to sign up.
- TF, why don't you give me a government issued photo ID of yourself first??  Maybe then I will send mine.





Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: xchanga.com on November 12, 2013, 07:15:41 AM
i hope their service has insurance to pay people up.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: MAbtc on November 12, 2013, 10:05:12 AM
Looks like I lost my .35 btc that I had in there... This sucks

What about my coins there? If you stored more than 1 BTC, send an email to support@inputs.io with a Bitcoin address (preferably, an offline, open source light/SPV wallet like Multibit or Electrum). Use the same email you're using on Inputs. Please don't store Bitcoins on an internet connected device, regardless of it is your own or a service's.


What about people with less than 1 BTC?
I filed a claim for 0.0025 BTC and you are asking for a government issued photo id
This is insane! Especially for the amount claimed. Why do you need an ID? You have been hacked, not me.

Some questions for you (TF) to ponder about:

- Why would someone trust their ID to a site that was hacked?
- Why would someone trust their ID to a site whose operator's ID is not known / wants to be anonymous?
- I sent the email from the same email address I registered with. Why do you need an ID now? ID was not needed to sign up.
- TF, why don't you give me a government issued photo ID of yourself first??  Maybe then I will send mine.





Is this for real? TF is asking for government documents? That wasn't the case for my claim. And I wouldn't feel comfortable giving them up, either.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Amitabh S on November 12, 2013, 10:12:27 AM
Looks like I lost my .35 btc that I had in there... This sucks

What about my coins there? If you stored more than 1 BTC, send an email to support@inputs.io with a Bitcoin address (preferably, an offline, open source light/SPV wallet like Multibit or Electrum). Use the same email you're using on Inputs. Please don't store Bitcoins on an internet connected device, regardless of it is your own or a service's.


What about people with less than 1 BTC?
I filed a claim for 0.0025 BTC and you are asking for a government issued photo id
This is insane! Especially for the amount claimed. Why do you need an ID? You have been hacked, not me.

Some questions for you (TF) to ponder about:

- Why would someone trust their ID to a site that was hacked?
- Why would someone trust their ID to a site whose operator's ID is not known / wants to be anonymous?
- I sent the email from the same email address I registered with. Why do you need an ID now? ID was not needed to sign up.
- TF, why don't you give me a government issued photo ID of yourself first??  Maybe then I will send mine.





Is this for real? TF is asking for government documents? That wasn't the case for my claim. And I wouldn't feel comfortable giving them up, either.

yes, this is for real. Here is the email I received:
-------
Hi,

We've identified this request as suspicious based on proprietary rules. In order to protect the amount against fraudulent claims, please attach a copy of a government issued photo ID matching your name. This is used for verification purposes only.
-------


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: MAbtc on November 12, 2013, 10:23:20 AM

yes, this is for real. Here is the email I received:
-------
Hi,

We've identified this request as suspicious based on proprietary rules. In order to protect the amount against fraudulent claims, please attach a copy of a government issued photo ID matching your name. This is used for verification purposes only.
-------


Seems kind of fishy. Verification? Users never had occasion to give their name to inputs.io in the first place. At best, he's trying to discourage people from making claims.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: BadBear on November 12, 2013, 11:03:14 AM

yes, this is for real. Here is the email I received:
-------
Hi,

We've identified this request as suspicious based on proprietary rules. In order to protect the amount against fraudulent claims, please attach a copy of a government issued photo ID matching your name. This is used for verification purposes only.
-------


Seems kind of fishy. Verification? Users never had occasion to give their name to inputs.io in the first place. At best, he's trying to discourage people from making claims.

He thinks people are going to trust him with their id's after this, lol.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: MakeBelieve on November 12, 2013, 11:32:54 AM

yes, this is for real. Here is the email I received:
-------
Hi,

We've identified this request as suspicious based on proprietary rules. In order to protect the amount against fraudulent claims, please attach a copy of a government issued photo ID matching your name. This is used for verification purposes only.
-------


Seems kind of fishy. Verification? Users never had occasion to give their name to inputs.io in the first place. At best, he's trying to discourage people from making claims.

He thinks people are going to trust him with their id's after this, lol.

He knew people wouldn't give ID to him. Therefore he gets to keep the money. He asked ID for me and I have now lost a rather large sum of my money.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: BadBear on November 12, 2013, 12:34:09 PM

yes, this is for real. Here is the email I received:
-------
Hi,

We've identified this request as suspicious based on proprietary rules. In order to protect the amount against fraudulent claims, please attach a copy of a government issued photo ID matching your name. This is used for verification purposes only.
-------


Seems kind of fishy. Verification? Users never had occasion to give their name to inputs.io in the first place. At best, he's trying to discourage people from making claims.

He thinks people are going to trust him with their id's after this, lol.

He knew people wouldn't give ID to him. Therefore he gets to keep the money. He asked ID for me and I have now lost a rather large sum of my money.

True enough.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: fildza on November 12, 2013, 02:24:18 PM
Looks like I lost my .35 btc that I had in there... This sucks

What about my coins there? If you stored more than 1 BTC, send an email to support@inputs.io with a Bitcoin address (preferably, an offline, open source light/SPV wallet like Multibit or Electrum). Use the same email you're using on Inputs. Please don't store Bitcoins on an internet connected device, regardless of it is your own or a service's.


What about people with less than 1 BTC?
I filed a claim for 0.0025 BTC and you are asking for a government issued photo id
This is insane! Especially for the amount claimed. Why do you need an ID? You have been hacked, not me.

Some questions for you (TF) to ponder about:

- Why would someone trust their ID to a site that was hacked?
- Why would someone trust their ID to a site whose operator's ID is not known / wants to be anonymous?
- I sent the email from the same email address I registered with. Why do you need an ID now? ID was not needed to sign up.
- TF, why don't you give me a government issued photo ID of yourself first??  Maybe then I will send mine.




Yes absolutely insane. He just want you forgot the btc and dont claim the refund


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Birdy on November 12, 2013, 02:57:48 PM
Quote
What about people with less than 1 BTC?
I filed a claim for 0.0025 BTC and you are asking for a government issued photo id
This is insane! Especially for the amount claimed. Why do you need an ID? You have been hacked, not me.

Some questions for you (TF) to ponder about:

- Why would someone trust their ID to a site that was hacked?
- Why would someone trust their ID to a site whose operator's ID is not known / wants to be anonymous?
- I sent the email from the same email address I registered with. Why do you need an ID now? ID was not needed to sign up.
- TF, why don't you give me a government issued photo ID of yourself first??  Maybe then I will send mine.
Yes absolutely insane. He just want you forgot the btc and dont claim the refund
I agree, that is ridiculous.
Just asking about the amount on inputs/coinlenders and an email from the same mailaddress to confirm should be enough.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 03:11:36 PM
Looks like I lost my .35 btc that I had in there... This sucks

What about my coins there? If you stored more than 1 BTC, send an email to support@inputs.io with a Bitcoin address (preferably, an offline, open source light/SPV wallet like Multibit or Electrum). Use the same email you're using on Inputs. Please don't store Bitcoins on an internet connected device, regardless of it is your own or a service's.


What about people with less than 1 BTC?
I filed a claim for 0.0025 BTC and you are asking for a government issued photo id
This is insane! Especially for the amount claimed. Why do you need an ID? You have been hacked, not me.

Some questions for you (TF) to ponder about:

- Why would someone trust their ID to a site that was hacked?
- Why would someone trust their ID to a site whose operator's ID is not known / wants to be anonymous?
- I sent the email from the same email address I registered with. Why do you need an ID now? ID was not needed to sign up.
- TF, why don't you give me a government issued photo ID of yourself first??  Maybe then I will send mine.





+1


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 03:15:59 PM
i don't care anyone want me to "claim their coins" with my id ~ send me a PM ..throw me some dust coins out of the deal we are good!  ;D ~easyyyy


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Baitty on November 12, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
It's rather stupid. I have supplied him with this information:

-Balance
- Previous passwords & current password.
- Email


Yet, he still wants ID. He's determined to get ID from all of us for some odd reason. ID would not prove anything because ID was not linked to the account in the first place. I thought TF was actually hacked to begin with. But, now I have changed my mind.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: MakeBelieve on November 12, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
i don't care anyone want me to "claim their coins" with my id ~ send me a PM ..throw me some dust coins out of the deal we are good!  ;D ~easyyyy

I'm pretty sure that's illegal...


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 04:32:21 PM
i don't care anyone want me to "claim their coins" with my id ~ send me a PM ..throw me some dust coins out of the deal we are good!  ;D ~easyyyy

I'm pretty sure that's illegal...

i got a fake id!+ this whole freakin' movie is ludicrous imo!  ;D LOL


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Raya on November 12, 2013, 05:12:06 PM
This is pathetic. Even though I only had a small amount in there. No point in emailing.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
This is pathetic. Even though I only had a small amount in there. No point in emailing.

how many?  ::)


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: MAbtc on November 12, 2013, 05:59:13 PM
ID would not prove anything because ID was not linked to the account in the first place. I thought TF was actually hacked to begin with. But, now I have changed my mind.
Indeed, ID would prove nothing.

This is super shady, TradeFortress. Any comments? Why have you suddenly instituted a policy that does 0% to reduce fraudulent claims, and will only save you money?

Oh, that's right.....  ::)


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: WHEELERSCW20000 on November 12, 2013, 06:17:52 PM
Having come late to the BTC table. I have been doing some mining. CPU (a bit slow), got my first USB eruptor (Bit quicker). Bought 3 more (Bit quicker still). Hooked them up through my Raspi (bit cheaper!). Bought some coins (bitbargain.co.uk). Bought some shares (Bitfunder.com). BTC price was moving in the right direction. Bought some more coins. Put them into Coinlenders (Nice Interest). Life was looking Good!

Then the shares (BTCINVEST) got frozen. Bitfunders closing down. Dont worry, they'll get transferred out!

First CD about to mature on CL. This was easy. Lets move and spare bitcents into CL for the next one.

Maturity dates comes by and OH! CD returned early, best check the forums.

OMG

Option1:    Best register on the forum so I can register for my sliding scale refund [Done] - This this post
               Wait a while and then get my details logged

Option2:    Turn off the PC, Lie on the floor, wrap myself up in a blanket just in case something else goes wrong


Should have gone down the Pub followed by the Night Club and then the Strip Club.

The pain in my head would be better than the pain in my wallet (offline leather not hot, cold or paper!)

It will get better!!!!


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: MakeBelieve on November 12, 2013, 06:28:52 PM
He's making more enemies every hour. People started to doubt that he pulled off such a stunt when he was handing out partial refunds. Now, he can't explain why he wants ID. When ID will not prove anything. Now he's holding back and doesn't want to give out refunds. He wants to keep it to himself and that's why I believe that he's asking for ID. Although, I can't prove this. He's being very shady at the moment.



Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: AnAnarchist on November 12, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
It really goes to show the danger of holding your coins in smaller operators. Inputs wasn't even THAT small!!

Since the hack I've been more cautious with my coins. Gonna hold them in a few different places for safety purposes.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: PrintMule on November 12, 2013, 06:39:57 PM
This is pathetic. Even though I only had a small amount in there. No point in emailing.

And by that you are helping him in repaying, cause there's alot of account with tiny sums, which together could make up for 1000 BTC


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Antonio5 on November 12, 2013, 06:47:45 PM
Yes, friend of mine was hacked too.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: raskolnikovx on November 12, 2013, 07:02:12 PM
IMHO We all must start being more resposible when it comes to the election of web wallets or services involving funding.
Its not that hard to do a quick lookup of the site server providers, domain registrars and stuff like this.
If out btc are gone there is not much to do so this is a MUST when picking a service to trust in.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 12, 2013, 07:19:19 PM
Inputs wasn't even THAT small!!

???

How do you define small?

How many employees did they have?

How much office space did they own or rent?

How many servers were they running?

What was their annual revenue?

What was their annual operating expenses?


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 12, 2013, 07:26:36 PM
Inputs wasn't even THAT small!!

???

How do you define small?

How many employees did they have?

How much office space did they own or rent?

How many servers were they running?

What was their annual revenue?

What was their annual operating expenses?

I think he meant the amount of coins they had 4100 BTC. TF claimed to have employees but that is as much as I know.

Yeah, I wouldn't judge the "size" of a company on the amount of money others are voluntarily donating to them.  That's just a recipe for disaster.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: gweedo on November 12, 2013, 07:28:04 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Welsh on November 12, 2013, 07:31:13 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

I don't think there's been any news on that. They must of heard of what's going on. But, there hasn't been any statements as of yet.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Kouye on November 12, 2013, 07:32:47 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

They're going to demote it 4 days ago.
Or maybe they are too busy sharing the loot and it will be 2 days ago.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: deadweasel on November 12, 2013, 07:41:07 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

They're going to demote it 4 days ago.
Or maybe they are too busy sharing the loot and it will be 2 days ago.

the foundation?   you're joking right? 


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Kouye on November 12, 2013, 07:47:05 PM
the foundation?   you're joking right? 

Of course this is a joke. Hope so, at least.

Here's the joke (clickable) snip:

http://uppix.com/f-inputs52828557001489c3.png (https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current)

Excellent joke indeed.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: jeffhuys on November 12, 2013, 07:48:57 PM
I was ABOUT to put all my BTC into inputs.io. So happy I didn't do that.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 07:56:13 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

~i'm a volunteer with the foundation ...what do you want me to do about it ? LOL  ::)


Title: Re: Inputs.io possible security breach
Post by: deadweasel on November 12, 2013, 07:57:24 PM
There has been a lot of hype about inputs.io lately. I have not gotten to know it, though. Why all the hype? What are its positive features?

definitely not its account balance.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: jeffhuys on November 12, 2013, 07:57:36 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

~i'm a volunteer with the foundation ...what do you want me to do about it ? LOL  ::)

Prove it.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 08:01:35 PM
the foundation?   you're joking right? 

Of course this is a joke. Hope so, at least.

Here's the joke (clickable) snip:

http://uppix.com/f-inputs52828557001489c3.png (https://members.bitcoinfoundation.org/current)

Excellent joke indeed.

nice you wanna see something even crazier than that? LMFAO!!!(*read this first!)vvv
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2013/11/08/bitcoin-soars-while-liberty-reserve-draws-guilty-plea/


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

~i'm a volunteer with the foundation ...what do you want me to do about it ? LOL  ::)

Prove it.

you wanna BET? lol =) 1 BTC? haaaa


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: jeffhuys on November 12, 2013, 08:03:59 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

~i'm a volunteer with the foundation ...what do you want me to do about it ? LOL  ::)

Prove it.

you wanna BET? lol =) 1 BTC? haaaa

No. Also, type like a >12yo human being.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 08:05:30 PM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

~i'm a volunteer with the foundation ...what do you want me to do about it ? LOL  ::)

Prove it.

you wanna BET? lol =) 1 BTC? haaaa

No. Also, type like a >12yo human being.

~ 6yo thread here buddy!   8)


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: goodtimes73 on November 12, 2013, 11:00:42 PM
Hello, if someone could please send this to Dumbfruit, I would appreciate it (I am a newbie and his pm is hidden from me).  I currently have a 28.58 btc balance on Coinlenders (under the name goodtimes 73), which does not include about 1btc in owed interest.  I am an unverified member of CL.  I have emailed Tradefortress several days ago but have not heard back yet.  Obviously I think he should pay all CL customers back, principal and interest.  Other that that, here is what I make of the current situation. 

TF obviously messed up, but his behaviour is highly unusual for an outright scammer.  I have read through most of the threads related to him, and (I think), all of them related to CL and inputs.  I have yet to see a single person definitively ID Tradefortress.  That tells me that he is still basically anonymous.  Yet, many people have reported receiving at least partial or even full refunds.  What outright scammer who has managed to remain anonymous offers refunds?  He could have absconded with the $1M + and never been heard from again.  It just doesn't make sense.  So, I think he is trying to make the best of a very bad situation.  I have no idea how much we might be offered back, but I would be surprised if it is nothing.  However, the situtation is basically a bank-run if everyone asks for their money back at once.  That is why I said to TF: I am willing to leave my coins in CL (assuming it stays open) to allow you to try to collect loans and so forth to pay me back in full.  From what I can tell, many other CL customers feel this way.  If so, we should make it clear that we do.  It seems that is by far the best chance of us getting paid back in full.  Of course, we should continue to be paid interest on our deposits.  At what rate, I don't know; that is negotiable.  I know many people here will find this naive in the extreme, but again, if you don't think TF is a scammer, this seems to me to be the best chance of getting paid back in full.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Kouye on November 12, 2013, 11:54:40 PM
That is why I said to TF: I am willing to leave my coins in CL (assuming it stays open) to allow you to try to collect loans and so forth to pay me back in full.
Very nice of you.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 12, 2013, 11:58:17 PM
Hello, if someone could please send this to Dumbfruit, I would appreciate it (I am a newbie and his pm is hidden from me).  I currently have a 28.58 btc balance on Coinlenders (under the name goodtimes 73), which does not include about 1btc in owed interest.  I am an unverified member of CL.  I have emailed Tradefortress several days ago but have not heard back yet.  Obviously I think he should pay all CL customers back, principal and interest.  Other that that, here is what I make of the current situation.  

TF obviously messed up, but his behaviour is highly unusual for an outright scammer.  I have read through most of the threads related to him, and (I think), all of them related to CL and inputs.  I have yet to see a single person definitively ID Tradefortress.  That tells me that he is still basically anonymous.  Yet, many people have reported receiving at least partial or even full refunds.  What outright scammer who has managed to remain anonymous offers refunds?  He could have absconded with the $1M + and never been heard from again.  It just doesn't make sense.  So, I think he is trying to make the best of a very bad situation.  I have no idea how much we might be offered back, but I would be surprised if it is nothing.  However, the situtation is basically a bank-run if everyone asks for their money back at once.  That is why I said to TF: I am willing to leave my coins in CL (assuming it stays open) to allow you to try to collect loans and so forth to pay me back in full.  From what I can tell, many other CL customers feel this way.  If so, we should make it clear that we do.  It seems that is by far the best chance of us getting paid back in full.  Of course, we should continue to be paid interest on our deposits.  At what rate, I don't know; that is negotiable.  I know many people here will find this naive in the extreme, but again, if you don't think TF is a scammer, this seems to me to be the best chance of getting paid back in full.

want me to work in getting your coins back for you?
 ~regardless imo the clock is ticking however you are going to do it, I'd get on that right away!!    8)


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: goodtimes73 on November 13, 2013, 12:28:42 AM
That is why I said to TF: I am willing to leave my coins in CL (assuming it stays open) to allow you to try to collect loans and so forth to pay me back in full.
Very nice of you.

It has nothing to do with being nice.  TF should honor his debts, even if he can't discharge them fully right now.  If he can only offer partial refunds right now, every depositor should be given the option of leaving their coins in and being made whole at a later date.  That's the option I would choose.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: crazyhorse on November 13, 2013, 12:32:41 AM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

~i'm a volunteer with the foundation ...what do you want me to do about it ? LOL  ::)

Then take inputs.io off the website.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Kouye on November 13, 2013, 12:34:15 AM
It has nothing to do with being nice.  TF should honor his debts, even if he can't discharge them fully right now.  If he can only offer partial refunds right now, every depositor should be given the option of leaving their coins in and being made whole at a later date.  That's the option I would choose.

Very nice of you.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: goodtimes73 on November 13, 2013, 12:49:01 AM
It has nothing to do with being nice.  TF should honor his debts, even if he can't discharge them fully right now.  If he can only offer partial refunds right now, every depositor should be given the option of leaving their coins in and being made whole at a later date.  That's the option I would choose.

Very nice of you.
Very smug of you.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 13, 2013, 02:27:14 AM
Also anyone know what the foundation is going to do? They still have his site as a silver member.

~i'm a volunteer with the foundation ...what do you want me to do about it ? LOL  ::)

Then take inputs.io off the website.

*please reread my post as this was an open question~>

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=324981.msg3561997#msg3561997


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: boogi on November 13, 2013, 02:47:50 AM
its disappointing it got hacked, it was a good concept


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 13, 2013, 02:52:14 AM
its disappointing it got hacked, it was a good concept

obviously not ..?  ::)


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: fildza on November 13, 2013, 03:14:34 AM
its disappointing it got hacked, it was a good concept
What you mean by it was a good concept  ? Explain please


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: BadBear on November 13, 2013, 03:18:34 AM
its disappointing it got hacked, it was a good concept
What you mean by it was a good concept  ? Explain please

It was, for Tradefortress.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: JTrain_51 on November 13, 2013, 03:49:19 AM
Thanks for this post
Luckily I did not use this site or all my money would have been stollen lol



Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: Undefeatable on November 13, 2013, 04:51:34 AM
its disappointing it got hacked, it was a good concept
What you mean by it was a good concept  ? Explain please

It was, for Tradefortress.

How much did you lost that makes you hate TF so much?


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: CEG5952 on November 13, 2013, 05:12:25 AM
How much did you lost that makes you hate TF so much?

Only stupid people lost a lot. Badbear isn't that dumb, I hope not as a global mod. Also aren't you angry at TF for getting us as a community bad press. This went all the way to engadget and major news organizations.
indeed, bad for bitcoin. but the fact is, re price, in a bull market like this, bad news cant do much


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: fildza on November 13, 2013, 05:15:07 AM
its disappointing it got hacked, it was a good concept
What you mean by it was a good concept  ? Explain please

It was, for Tradefortress.

How much did you lost that makes you hate TF so much?
Not how much lost but TF promise input.io is secure before


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: BadBear on November 13, 2013, 07:40:18 AM
its disappointing it got hacked, it was a good concept
What you mean by it was a good concept  ? Explain please

It was, for Tradefortress.

How much did you lost that makes you hate TF so much?

0, I didn't have anything there.


Title: Re: Inputs.io HACKED, 4K+ BTC stolen
Post by: haightst on November 13, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
How much did you lost that makes you hate TF so much?

Only stupid people lost a lot. Badbear isn't that dumb, I hope not as a global mod. Also aren't you angry at TF for getting us as a community bad press. This went all the way to engadget and major news organizations.

~even top brass DD board mods asking ME what happened!!!?

 wow = ? just what happened here?  ::)