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Title: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: UnitClick on November 05, 2013, 12:47:48 AM
I just found an old wallet on a recovered crashed drive from 2012 with almost 20BTC worth of unconfirmed satoshidice transactions. I looked them up in blockchain and there's no record of them having occurred, with the client's blockchain fully updated. I remember having a similar issue a long time ago and It resulted in me recovering the funds but I can't remember if the specifics are the same or how it was done. What can I do about this issue? (EDIT: I believe it was done with pywallet but I have no idea if it's even still being maintained)

I'm still in disbelief. If this is real I'm going to be so fucking happy.  ;D


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: grue on November 05, 2013, 12:55:12 AM
I just found an old wallet on a recovered crashed drive from 2012 with almost 20BTC worth of unconfirmed satoshidice transactions. I looked them up in blockchain and there's no record of them having occurred, with the client's blockchain fully updated
hate the break it to you: the 20 BTC in your wallet is undependable. the transactions have not confirmed since 2012 and are not in any client's transaction list. unless they're in a block, you can't spend them.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: RoadTrain on November 05, 2013, 12:56:09 AM
You could try -rescan option.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: UnitClick on November 05, 2013, 01:09:05 AM
I just found an old wallet on a recovered crashed drive from 2012 with almost 20BTC worth of unconfirmed satoshidice transactions. I looked them up in blockchain and there's no record of them having occurred, with the client's blockchain fully updated
hate the break it to you: the 20 BTC in your wallet is undependable. the transactions have not confirmed since 2012 and are not in any client's transaction list. unless they're in a block, you can't spend them.

How would I determine if this is the case and what's the best way to attempt to recover them?


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: MysteryMiner on November 05, 2013, 01:19:10 AM
1. what is the address holding the 20BTC?
2. is it transaction of satoshidicke sending back a prize?
3. is the wallet damaged?

if it is a transaction sent but never confirmed i is possible to create raw transaction using same inputs. Think about it as double spend. Also the pywallet is still supported by JackJack.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: drpepperyummy on November 05, 2013, 01:27:48 AM
watching this to see if he hit lotto


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: UnitClick on November 05, 2013, 01:29:25 AM
1. what is the address holding the 20BTC?
2. is it transaction of satoshidicke sending back a prize?
3. is the wallet damaged?

if it is a transaction sent but never confirmed i is possible to create raw transaction using same inputs. Think about it as double spend. Also the pywallet is still supported by JackJack.

They are all transactions to satoshidice. They aren't all concurrant transactions, they're spaced out and of a small enough amount that I didn't take too much notice at the time, as I was playing with some huge amounts. (Note to self, the martingale NEVER works in the long term).

I made several backups, I'm going to try and delete the transactions using pywallet and rescan. Is this an appropriate course of action? I don't think the wallet is damaged.

Screenshot of one of the transactions.  http://imgur.com/3WUPNdD


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: Kouye on November 05, 2013, 08:38:47 AM
I made several backups, I'm going to try and delete the transactions using pywallet and rescan. Is this an appropriate course of action? I don't think the wallet is damaged.

Yes, it is. Although sometimes the balance shown by QT client does not adjust well, even after a rescan. Happened to me, I had to import the private key to another wallet and send the coins back to another address of the first wallet for it to show the right balance.
G'luck.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: Ecurb123 on November 05, 2013, 06:30:33 PM
you could offer a reward on here, I'll bet someone could get them usable for you.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: TheButterZone on November 06, 2013, 04:07:50 AM
Import your private keys into Electrum http://electrum.org/download.html


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: tspacepilot on November 07, 2013, 10:45:16 PM
Let us know what happened.  I"m so curious.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: waltermot321 on November 10, 2013, 10:44:57 AM
Don't trust anybody, its pretty easy to find some solution online.... but you can trust me :P


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: escrow.ms on November 10, 2013, 10:48:17 AM
Don't trust anybody > but you can trust me.

Why he should trust you.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: bit-joker on November 10, 2013, 11:00:01 AM
Yeah, send me your wallet to me. I'm a total stranger but you can trust me. /sarcasm


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: ampbuster on November 14, 2013, 09:38:36 AM
Wish you good luck :)


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: tspacepilot on November 14, 2013, 09:42:29 AM
Any luck so far?


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: Feneusens on November 14, 2013, 10:32:51 AM
Don't trust anybody > but you can trust me.

Why he should trust you.

Don't trust anyone including yourself, trust me instead :P


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on November 14, 2013, 10:37:44 AM
@OP update please.

If the transactions where valid at the time, just contact the gambling site, it may resent them :)


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: Eternity on November 14, 2013, 11:35:16 AM
Are you missing them now ?


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: UnitClick on December 03, 2013, 03:21:18 AM
OP UPDATING! Was away for a while and I'm just now getting back up to speed on the latest happenings with BTC.

My thinking is the coins never actually existed. I dumped the private keys and rescanned the wallet, the balance returned to 0, and the unconfirmed transactions vanished. The Tx IDs, when looked up on blockchain.info return nothing.

The wallet is too big to import into blockchain.info. Is there any other ways of attempting to getting the coins back or are they gone? I distinctly remember having a similar problem a year ago and I managed to recover coins.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: TheButterZone on December 03, 2013, 03:57:28 AM
Backup your wallet.dat to another location, download a light client like Electrum or Multibit, import the private keys into it, one by one if you can't import the wallet.dat file directly.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: deepceleron on December 03, 2013, 04:34:15 AM
OP UPDATING! Was away for a while and I'm just now getting back up to speed on the latest happenings with BTC.

My thinking is the coins never actually existed. I dumped the private keys and rescanned the wallet, the balance returned to 0, and the unconfirmed transactions vanished. The Tx IDs, when looked up on blockchain.info return nothing.

The wallet is too big to import into blockchain.info. Is there any other ways of attempting to getting the coins back or are they gone?
There are no coins. Said dice site created and accepted long chains of unconfirmed transactions.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: gmaxwell on December 03, 2013, 06:41:08 AM
There were a bunch of incidents where it looked like SD customers got screwed by doublespends... I never understood why people didn't complain.  This had upped my estimation that most of the SD activity was shareholders trying to pump their shares (an estimate that increased exponentially after it went non-public and the traffic basically dried up instantly)


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: tspacepilot on December 04, 2013, 09:58:39 PM
So the OP didn't strike it rich?  Oh well.  At least she/he still has his/her health.


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: wmcleod on December 04, 2013, 10:57:48 PM
So the OP didn't strike it rich?  Oh well.  At least she/he still has his/her health.

lol, why would you assume OP doesn't have their health?

What a random statement! :P


Title: Re: Did I just find 20BTC from 2012?
Post by: AWSOM on December 04, 2013, 11:33:47 PM
So the OP didn't strike it rich?  Oh well.  At least she/he still has his/her health.

 ;D