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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: demonmaestro on November 05, 2013, 05:50:36 AM



Title: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: demonmaestro on November 05, 2013, 05:50:36 AM
Coinbase has passed Mt.Gox.

Mtgox. 233.35
Coinbase 237.70

 :o :o :o :o

How high is this going to go.
Also coinbase has passed its april 9th high befor the drop.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 05, 2013, 08:57:55 AM
If they don't have enough BTC (as was mentioned yesterday) and they can't buy them fast enough, they really have no other choice temporarily to get some.  On a fast spike, Coinbase is not the place to buy.  Then again, if the same thing happens when they get too many BTC, it would conversely be the best place to buy.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: MelodyRowell on November 05, 2013, 09:19:47 AM
Coinbase has passed Mt.Gox.

Mtgox. 233.35
Coinbase 237.70

 :o :o :o :o

How high is this going to go.
Also coinbase has passed its april 9th high befor the drop.

Maybe coinbase have withdrawal problem. :P


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: ekiro on November 05, 2013, 12:48:19 PM
Coinbase has passed Mt.Gox.

Mtgox. 233.35
Coinbase 237.70

 :o :o :o :o

How high is this going to go.
Also coinbase has passed its april 9th high befor the drop.

Maybe coinbase have withdrawal problem. :P

No problems. I sold a bunch of coins not too long ago and receive $10K in my bank account 5 days later. No problem yet.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: deadweasel on November 05, 2013, 12:52:13 PM
Coinbase has passed Mt.Gox.

Mtgox. 233.35
Coinbase 237.70

 :o :o :o :o

How high is this going to go.
Also coinbase has passed its april 9th high befor the drop.

Maybe coinbase have withdrawal problem. :P

No problems. I sold a bunch of coins not too long ago and receive $10K in my bank account 5 days later. No problem yet.

Coinbase is an excellent way to dump your coins.  Trouble is sometimes their service becomes paralyzed -- and you never know when it will be.  They also had a ton of issues because they don't run individual wallets -- they have a hot wallet, cold wallet, and a ledger.  You never have coins in your wallet -- because you don't have one. 

That means when they screw something up with the wallet, everything freezes.

This isn't to say they aren't the best way to buy and sell btc with ease, just that some days might be tougher than others..


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: fxkevin on November 05, 2013, 12:52:44 PM
I sold 10 BTC last Tuesday on Coinbase and the system gave me a completion date of Nov 1st...

As of today, still no money in my account.

Cheers,


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: ekiro on November 05, 2013, 01:08:27 PM
I sold 10 BTC last Tuesday on Coinbase and the system gave me a completion date of Nov 1st...

As of today, still no money in my account.

Cheers,
To be fair that was a Friday. Super close to the weekend. They don't do anything on the weekend. I'm sure you will receive it today or tomorrow.



Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: deadweasel on November 05, 2013, 01:09:30 PM
I sold 10 BTC last Tuesday on Coinbase and the system gave me a completion date of Nov 1st...

As of today, still no money in my account.

Cheers,

Have you sent a support email?


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: fxkevin on November 05, 2013, 01:10:15 PM
Yes I did on Monday morning.

No response yet...



Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: ekiro on November 05, 2013, 01:13:48 PM
Yes I did on Monday morning.

No response yet...


They better not have any fucking problems. Let alone be hacked. I'll be the first one pounding on their office doors.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: Kimowa on November 05, 2013, 01:44:25 PM
Thats because everyone knew Mt Gox withdrawal issue :)


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: challen on November 05, 2013, 03:11:16 PM
localbitcoins price is substantially higher than mtgox as well.

Currently:
mtgox = 249.7
coinbase = 252.59
localbitcoins = 260.20


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: justusranvier on November 05, 2013, 03:14:46 PM
localbitcoins price is substantially higher than mtgox as well.
Anyone who is using formulas similar to the ones I published in the Spring has their prices set up to anticipate future increases:

Here's one of my pricing formulas:

Code:
max(max(max(mtgoxUSD,bitstampUSD), USD_24h),USD_24h+(1.5*(max(bitstampUSD,mtgoxUSD)-USD_24h)))*1.06

Derivation:

http://localbitcoins.blogspot.com/2013/06/this-is-first-in-series-of-posts.html


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 05, 2013, 03:46:41 PM
I can sell on Coinbase for $251+.

It feels like there is a good potential to arb between Coinbase and Bitstamp. Do you know if Coinbase's sells take 7 days to confirm like their buys?


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: btcforall777 on November 05, 2013, 06:26:26 PM
i would bet anything that coinbase, since they are a market maker, are buying for a cheaper source (BTC-E maybe) and selling at the GOX + price. They certainly have the capability and it makes perfect sense.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 05, 2013, 06:30:06 PM
i would bet anything that coinbase, since they are a market maker, are buying for a cheaper source (BTC-E maybe) and selling at the GOX + price. They certainly have the capability and it makes perfect sense.

But then they're buying at Gox + price. Presumably they float the price between various exchanges depending on buy/sell demand on their platform. Now the really weird bit is that they're actually the highest, which shows LOTS of the buy demand is on them, which sort of implies lots of new money is going into Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 05, 2013, 07:02:16 PM
i would bet anything that coinbase, since they are a market maker, are buying for a cheaper source (BTC-E maybe) and selling at the GOX + price. They certainly have the capability and it makes perfect sense.

Their blog post (can't find it now) says that they try to get coins from Bitstamp and BTC-e but if they can't get enough they will go to Mt. Gox.  Apparently they are doing that right now.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: True___Blue on November 06, 2013, 03:19:52 AM
I was having problems today trying to sell. It was like back in the old days. I got a message saying they researched their limit and I had to wait 24 hours to try and sell


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: deisik on November 06, 2013, 08:10:56 PM
Maybe coinbase have withdrawal problem. :P

Yeah, especially for those not living (having a bank account) in USA... Dunno about Mt.Gox


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 06, 2013, 09:06:30 PM
I was having problems today trying to sell. It was like back in the old days. I got a message saying they researched their limit and I had to wait 24 hours to try and sell

I'm surprised.  I would think they have plenty of money right now and no coins.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 06, 2013, 09:25:02 PM
I was having problems today trying to sell. It was like back in the old days. I got a message saying they researched their limit and I had to wait 24 hours to try and sell

I'm surprised.  I would think they have plenty of money right now and no coins.

Well they've been canceling my orders to buy Bitcoins...

Maybe they just have low liquidity in general.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 06, 2013, 11:13:50 PM
I can sell on Coinbase for $251+.

It feels like there is a good potential to arb between Coinbase and Bitstamp. Do you know if Coinbase's sells take 7 days to confirm like their buys?

Yeah, because US banks suck.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: BitchicksHusband on November 06, 2013, 11:15:31 PM
I was having problems today trying to sell. It was like back in the old days. I got a message saying they researched their limit and I had to wait 24 hours to try and sell

I'm surprised.  I would think they have plenty of money right now and no coins.

Well they've been canceling my orders to buy Bitcoins...

Maybe they just have low liquidity in general.

All of mine (around $200/BTC days) have gone through so far.  The last one hit my bank credit union today so I think it's still on target.


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: fxkevin on November 06, 2013, 11:20:12 PM
ACH transfers post the next business day, the delay is so Coinbase can hedge their client's orders or try to match them inside their order book.

Cheers...


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 07, 2013, 12:52:20 AM
I was having problems today trying to sell. It was like back in the old days. I got a message saying they researched their limit and I had to wait 24 hours to try and sell

I'm surprised.  I would think they have plenty of money right now and no coins.

Well they've been canceling my orders to buy Bitcoins...

Maybe they just have low liquidity in general.

All of mine (around $200/BTC days) have gone through so far.  The last one hit my bank credit union today so I think it's still on target.

Damn, in that case I just have bad luck. I got mine for sub-$200 though :D :D :D (although maybe I won't if they cancel it ~.~)


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: demonmaestro on November 07, 2013, 07:56:19 AM
coinbase:284.07
mt.gox: 284.00  :o


Title: Re: Coinbase Vs Mt.Gox
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 07, 2013, 04:46:50 PM
Coinbase: 303.58
Mt Gox: 316.00

Sanity has been restored.