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Connection with Edgy...iodev...CropCoin...Vizzotop, Prufus, Nibex, Bravo, Relarium....

BYTEPAY SCAM from the scam creator of CropCoin SCAM

Asking 0.5 BTC for Masternode
BAN People on Discord for asking questions
Altering Discord and Bitcointalk forum
4 fake developers
5 fake years expiriance
Account at Bitcointalk opened one month ago
Topic on Bitcointalk is selfmoderated and altered - he just erase all that he does not like
Premine 4%


Changing prices by minute. Escrow forbiden. He works only on trust.
http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180408/e7q9q3zh.jpg
http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180408/83y3jtk6.jpg


Official Bytescam topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3277964.0

Read more detailes for connection and same author for CropCoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3283379.msg34289325#msg34289325


EVERYONE WHO GOT BAN FROM ByteSCAM fakedev,
please write here and continue with this topic.
It is not censured and altered

Will be added to easypool.win for mining

Lol...

So easypool.win does add scam coins? Interesting  :P

You just registered to post this thread? Newbie acc with one post

Disaster of bots...

This maybe bot, which adds the same message in any thread.

I thought that it's scam.

No serious project will call "HODLBank" in their system. :P

This post was write by newble))

It may be a second acc, who knows)

I had to open new topic because Moderator fakedev is erasing everything on official topic.
It will be super great purple happy topic  :P

Explore, Ask and investing for yourself. DO NOT trust me or anyone else.




maybe not  ;)

Its great when newbie comes to talks on another newbie :)

NooOObZZZ

This is topic for newbies and juniors.


Senior or serious people will never send BTC to this kind of people and coins.

Bruh come on... I guess it's time to improve your bot lmao

If the way he does things are fishy, then don't invest in the project. From your post, all I can read are speculations. A developer can decide to ban anybody that FUDs on the project's social media channel. How did you come about the fact that he has fake 5years experience and 4 fake developers? If his topic is self moderated, then that raises concern of possible alteration of some information and cover ups but that doesn't categorically make the project a scam until you prove it otherwise with concrete evidences

MN = SCAM / MLM / SHIT

things used to be much better some 3 months ago so I buy me some Gobyte then I sell it then I buy me even moar Gobyte then I sell it and so on. And when I get me some 165 coins I start asking if I am a dumb ass not to invest those in some MN share. So I did. The rest of the coins were sold to trade LTC/BTC at Coinsmarkets and they have scammed all the people who were present at Jan, 03 and I lost me 13.49 LTC ;D

SCAM CONFIRMED

This project has exactly the same pattern as CROP:
- the same technical issues
- the same missing source files to build GUI wallets
- the same SOURCE CODE almost identical to CROP code (including tiered masternodes)
- the same Discord owner name pattern (compare cropcoindev and bytepaydev)
- as reported above, the same practices of banning people on Discord for questions.
- more issues of previous project are here (http://crop.mn.osnwt.site/issues.html).

And finally the "dev" way of saying thanks to people who wasted a month helping users in his previous project almost 24/7:

http://crop.mn.osnwt.site/images/cropfk.png

You should say thanks to him for heading up. See my post above, is my account a bit better?

 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

This guys was demanding some bytepay from me and told me he would Create Fud if i didnot pay him and then he deleted his messages.He created account for this purpose see all newbies here.
i couldnot give him ransom so he created this.Now you can decide who is telling the truth.You all will see when we are on exchanges

.You cant remove any of my comment in your post Lier.Keep fudding i wont pay you any FREE COINS that you demand.
These 3 guys notblox and two other brand news  have been Demanding ransom for no fud and then they removed comments and blocked me.please dont believe them.Thank you all for your love

Guys,

as a former long-term supporter of his previous project, CropCoin, let me tell you what exactly you would expect from this new project considering how that past project was run, and all those issues you could find in its source code. I try to be as honest as possible regardless of his last message to me ("f..k off").

PROs:

• he will sell you masternodes
• he will support the project for some time (maybe month, maybe year)
• he will make some changes in the project to keep high ROI (in coins) while possible
• coin will be on exchanges, yes, the same as crop - CB and CE
• those who are early birds, may and, highly likely, WILL make some money

CONs:

• this project is a next clone of previous one
• it uses old codebase with a lot of issues
• to keep ROI high usual practice was to make blockchain forks every week or two. If you are not checking discord every day or two, you may probably miss update point and start loosing your masternode awards or mining rewards (they will be in another blockchain fork)
• when lot of people enter the project, the premine of 4 million coins will go dumping in parts - the same way as crop's 2 million were dumped
• the price will go down, crop's price went from 39000 sat/coin (as I bought it) to 3000-5000 sat/coins (when I sold out), and many people left it at high loss
• this project has no innovations or clear whitepaper. CROPs innovations were tiered masternodes which are the way to keep interest to the project and coin price from falling. But actually they have no meaning at all, and due to variable number of different nodes, the daily supply will jump up and down, and create unpredictable inflation.
• support on discord is irregular and sparse. The team consisted from a single "dev" which obviously does not code, since no single tech question was answered
• "dev" lied to coin holders about plans. Say, he promised that "community will vote for reward structure", but when time's come, he just set fixed values, and to all questions he just wrote "we set the best for community". All this ignoring a lot of calculations and spreadsheets few user published being concerned
• he ignores or rejects all offers to help with coding, web site or running services, but at the same time says "it's community project"
• no team means no updates. Check crop web site, it is obsolete. Here will be the same. People were mining that coin a moths later after it went PoS only with no mining. And they lost money paying bills and not able to sell coins. The answer was "check discord and update". Let me add: check every day/week
• not being a real developer, the code work is being made by other people. Including building of GUI wallets. GitHub does not cointain all files necessary to build Windows, Linux and Mac wallets, they are distributed as binary only files. Now is the same - Windows GUI is published, MacOS GUI in past project was published on GoogleDrive few days after releases/updates, Linux GUI wallet was never published at all. That's because of old code base taken instead of new one. On all offers to build all 3 platforms at once after adding missing files he answered nothing
• As a result, someone else builds GUI released. You can't do that easily. I made those, but using some parts from other coins, since dev either ignored my requests for missing files, or said "all is published" - well, where is the /share directory needed to build GUI, and where is macdeploy script needed to build a MacOS app bundle? They are built from no one knows which code and by no one knows whom
• with past project, this "dev" even was not able to setup own blockchain explorer and used gos.cx pool's one. Now is the same, use 3rd party offer. You still think it is a good project?
• When you ask too many "bad" questions, they will be deleted first, and your account banned next
• I can show proof to any of these statements, more are listed here (http://crop.mn.osnwt.site/issues.html). For instance, ask him how to build Linux GUI wallet from the source published. Or Windows. Or MacOS. I bet the answer will be like "we provide all you need ready to use, no need to build" since he is NOT a CODER/DEV, and, perhaps, he has never built any GUI himself

So the conclusion:

• You may invest in it and even make a lot of money. But as well you may lose a lot in BTC if you miss dump point in time
• Yes, ROI in coins is great. But ROI in BTC may be negative. Be aware.

What should be improved, at least, to make such "project" a bit more attractive:

• up to date web site
• own real, not fake, coders in the team, not subcontractors
• own, not 3rd party, blockchain explorer
• own tiered masternode stats page (if we tell about this like an innovation)
• full source code published, so everyone can build 1) command line node for VPS, 2) Windows GUI wallet, 3) MacOS GUI wallet, 4) Linux GUI wallet
• better if all this will use new code base with qmake/cmake/configure system instead of hard-coded fixed libs

Then you may safely invest. But don't ask too many questions apart from "how to install masternode". Otherwise you may receive the same answer as me after a month of supporting his users on Discord: "f..k off, a.. hole", proof is here (in the end) (http://crop.mn.osnwt.site/issues.html).

for that he say thank you, I opened the topic with garbage. The idea is really bad.

If anybody wants to have some FUN, here is the code difference between his old project, CropCoin, and his new project, BytePay:

https://github.com/osnwt/ScamCoin/commit/cff1e467238da67784014e746f08068fbac867a5

As you may see, it is exactly the same source code. He just renamed coin everywhere and removed some parts of code which had to support legacy epoch of initial Crop history (before tiered masternodes). He was even lazy to change references to 1000 coins for masternode since new coin has masternodes starting from 5000 coins. And also there is no (at first glance) any sign of HODLBANK innovation, too.

So ask yourself: if there is a running project (CropCoin) with some market price, which is on exchanges, which has established user base, WHY TO CLONE IT again instead of running the existing one? The answer is simple: old crop premine has dumped. Now with new project to premine (has finished), masternode sales (in progress), dump (soon) - and to the next one :-)

Have fun!

Same as Sparks, Rapture, Phobos, Cerberus, Crowdcoin, Race, Dinero, Infinex, Force, Stipend, Endorphin, VIVO, Innova, Cropcoin, etc, etc, etc... Everything that comes off BSOD's pool and Stocks.Exchange conjointly... Pattern is exactly the same each time. (50% MN Reward, Airdrops, Bounty, Discord auctions, "Small premine" to run masternodes, and a pure flatline on the charts for those left at the end)

No-no-no!

Let's compare with Cerberus (since I run it's masternode, I know that code). It is MUCH better from tech (source code) point of view. Let me show some differences:

• Cerberus has own explorer http://exp.cerberuscoin.com. It is 15 minute task to install, but crop did not bother doing that at all.
• Cerberus has all 3 platform GUI wallets released https://github.com/cerberuscore/Cerberus/releases.
• Cerberus has full source code with configure/auto-tools build system to build for all 3 major platforms. I personally built the Mac distribution for my MacBook Pro and confirm that it is easily buildable.
• Compare sources for Cerberus https://github.com/cerberuscore/cerberus, CropCoin https://github.com/Cropdev/CropDev and BytePay https://github.com/bytepaydev/Bytepay. That is exactly what I meant saying that CROP/BEPAY uses very old and problematic codebase which doesn't allow you to build GUI unless you add something extra from other projects (actually just images and string resources, but WTF do not add them if you are dev and not "dev"?)
• Cerberus has no issues with masternode payments. Crop and similar coins had them a lot, but due to work by Sergio (the real contractor-coder used by crop "dev") they were fixed somehow. Still, try "masternode winners" command and you find that there is an empty list for both Crop and BePay, and populated list for Cerberus.

All this neither Crop nor BePay has.

From SCAM point of view I do not argue. But, at least, a new code could be taken for new coin, and since that "dev" can't "dev", he uses and reuses the same crappy code which no one of new coins use. Again, doing a new coin for the real use why base the development on a very old codebase and then lie on public that "90% of coins use the same code"? The answer was given above: premine, MN sale, dump with least efforts.

I have screenshot of our full conversation...as a proof,
but he destroyed himself enough already, with his own actions.

Anyway... I am safe keeping the screenshot as 'Ace in my sleeve'

I examined Crop coin also...
and I can confirm that is the same guy or small scam team.
Credits and thanks to osnwt

@osnwt I got ya, I got to admit that I haven't dive into the codes of these coins... Seeing so much of that same pattern on the OP turns me off from diving into each of these...

I really, really, really appreciate all those who are grounded and brave enough to raise their voices.

The only thing i really feel sad about: i do not have way enough merit points to honor all your true words.

I am not a coder, im am not a dev, but the pattern of graviex, that was pointed out some postings before came to my mind as well.

And again a thank you from the bottom of my heart (the one who is meant will know it)

GreenPanda,

playing with the crop code a lot to find out what can I do to help fixing it, I found around 4 kinds of code most of coins are based upon. It uses the oldest one, there are few others. Now just looking at the source, I can tell you which issues I might expect from that code. But it does not even include the overall project look and support level. I would never invest in a project which can't run own blockchain explorer. This was my 1st MN experience, and I've learnt a lot. Now is time to go ahead and don't look back.

Still, I just wanted to warn new users what they should expect from this new "project" since I know internals. They still can invest and make a lot of money. But they should be aware of no future for this coin after dump just because there is nothing behind it, JAM (Just Another Masternode).

Well, all you wrote is about 99% of MN coins. So the project is just like others :)

Looking at the goals, yes.

But since I am a tech guy, I look deeper and was surprised how bad it was established, and how easy was to buy its coins to be hooked. 99% of people do not look at this until they have issues. And then they start asking, and then...

So better be informed now, than regret later. At least, people know what they should look at to make an informed decision.

110%scam

 ??? Another SCAM project??? :/

SCAM ALERT REMINDER !!!

Avoid and report SCAM coins BytePay and CropCoin.
They are both creation of same twisted mind dev.

- Using same duplicate code and Masternode presale scam.
- Using same self-moderated altered fake forum topic and Discord nazzy regime
- Steal BTC from people in presale and exit

Read more from page 1:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3283379.0

Scam or not but the guy invites to Discord with invalid link and doesn't even care about it :D though I wouldn't mind getting some free 10 coins for a retweet. Never heard freebies hurt somebody especially if that's Qbic or Gobyte though retweets are not quite freebies but hard work that involves spamming ur followers... anyway no Discord unless I get invited by somebody ;D

This is the distinguishing feature of these projects - negligence to detail.

I know there is a scam accusation section on the boards but I think it is better to relocate the scam accusation to someplace easier to see or to just let them stay in the location where the scam is also located.

I hardly ever switch over to the scam accusation part of the board.  Maybe I should more often.  However, it would also be more effective if there were a scam awareness child board for each major topic/sub topic.

I was not going to post anything, all was already said. But I hate when someone lies to me.

Bytepaydev (aka kevinmark1) wrote me on Discord in PM that he has nothing common with cropcoindev (aka jhonson222) and demanded to remove FUD from my site. He also stated on forum that Bytepay just forked CropCoin.

Please compare two messages from two "unrelated" developers on forum and make own opinion. Pay attention to the:
- whole pattern (Hi, message, thanks)
- missing spaces around full stops in almost every message (Hi.Text.Thanks)

You may compare more messages in both threads (crop (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2863802), bepay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3277964)) not trusting me.

Do you still think they are different people?
Are you still ready to invest in something, whose author lies you?
Regardless, you may make money from it, but be aware of it.

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180421/tc53nkxv.png

https://i.imgur.com/Gf6eDaC.png

https://i.imgur.com/TlGNnER.png


Now this guy Osnwt will say NO I just want to make some money of it.He is buying high amounts of bytepay and wants his low satoshi order filled by Fud but it wont.
Ask him yourself why does he BUY when he thinks its scam?He created Fud to Buy LOW.I wont post here again ever.You can see his account yourself.

These guys were demanding ransom and free coins bag from me and they threat all new coins like this.The other guy notblox doesnot have single other post else bytepay.


Its your turn to decide yourself if he is speaking truth then why is he buying?Being high rank member doesnot mean they have enough Money  and for that NOTBLOX i am 100% sure he  doesnot have anything to invest anywhere so POOR guy   :'( :'( :'( he is so retarded
Dkbit  he is just a poor  :'( bounty seeker and paid fudder for good coins . These are just greedy people wasting time with fud.Bytepay success will speak for itself when poS starts and with our one click mn.

Bytepay is at 1k satoshi now just see after a week or two where the price will be and if you didnot buy because of this Fud then Osnwt,notblox and dkbit scammers and ransom seekers are responsible for you LOSS

Thanks to all and never reply to anyone here as you know the truth about these ransom seekers Now

The answer is simple, and I never hid it:


And also:


You should ask my order table to see, there is nothing to hide (actual price is around 1000 satoshi):
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180423/jlvj5k8l.png

Yes, I mined (not bought) 151 BEPAY coins (arcpool and a little 0.1 at another one), and even set buy orders of high amounts of BEPAY at few satoshi for the total of 0.00763884 BTC ($65 USD) which remaining after I sold some Cerberus coins from low cost CBS masternode. Not a big investment and I agreed: it probably will never happen. And if I wanted to hide this, I would use another login on CB.

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180423/vtp8fn4w.png

At the same time I never wrote ANY SINGLE word to Bytepaydev except on this forum. Maybe other demanded something from him, I don't know.
Unlike him, who is proven to be the same as cropcoindev, but insists on opposite:
http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180423/8v9djy9m.png

So actually you, CropPayDev, added nothing new, and did not reveal anything I said wrong. Right?

But the final thought of all my messages always was:

• I said I have no single CROP now, and that is truth (last donated was sold 2 weeks ago).
• I never said I have no single BEPAY, and that is truth (I mined and have 151 coin).
• No one said you can't make money of it. You CAN make money on every coin. But should be aware of all details.
• Never invest in crypto more than you can afford to lose. My $65 is the price I value this coin. And not going to invest more.

So, junk price for the junk coin (and $65 are not invested yet, probably never happens). And unrealistic sell price for 151 coins is because I consider them lost (the rule above). But shit happens, and they can be sold one day, who knows...

The main idea of this thread was that:

• The premine for CROP was dumped, this dropped price from 39000 satoshi (I bought my CROP MN at) to 5000 now.
• The premine for BEPAY is 4% vs 2% for CROP.
• Both coins have the same founder (see the thread) who still says they are different people/teams (decide for yourself is it truth or not).
• His team still has no OWN blockchain explorers. Two known (for crop and bepay) are run by this service (link (https://blockxplorer.info)) where all explorers are on the same IP address (ping and check). I think that CropPayDev has no explorer source to run on own site (while no problem to give it own domain name).
• His HODLbank has no any code to lock coins like escrow. They are locked as long as he wants they are there. Be aware, though, that explorer service can add any label to any address. So if you see one day "HODLbank" at explorer site, it is nothing else but text label for an address.

Anyway, he learns lessons. At least, he now has explorers (made at the same time for both coins). He has masternode stats also made at the same time (so I can finally shutdown mine). He has a nice looking site for bepay (I like its moving network)... The last he needs is to stop lying people about different teams, and all will be good! Maybe it will be the next lesson learned by him?

You can also add that he is almost never online in the Crop Discord anymore. No more premine to dump.
He even gave Mr Happy admin rights to keep running the channel as he is probably running a few masternodes to keep selling off rewards while MR Happy keeps the community "Happy"

good projects are very exciting awaiting good news from the luck of this promising project

Great now the DEV is boosting the price himself to claim high price jump in Discord channel.
SCAMMER

Bytepaydev - Today at 1:00 PM
Much More to come new exchanges and a lot more
We just got listed on cryptobridge and we are up 300% volume will be there soon as new members come


fill order   justin1990 paid 0.006045 BTC.bridge, received 65 BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 13:12:15   26452582
fill order   justin1990 paid 0.01859999 BTC.bridge, received 199.9998924 BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 13:12:15   26452582
limit order create   justin1990 sell 0.006045 BTC.bridge at price 10752.6881720 BEPAY.bridge/BTC.bridge   2018/04/26 13:08:42   26452511
fill order   justin1990 paid 0.00000001 BTC.bridge, received 0.000125 BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 13:08:00   26452497
limit order create   justin1990 sell 0.0186 BTC.bridge at price 10752.6881720 BEPAY.bridge/BTC.bridge   2018/04/26 13:08:00   26452497
limit order create   justin1990 sell 731 BEPAY.bridge at price 0.00009899 BTC.bridge/BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 12:55:00   26452241
limit order create   justin1990 sell 2741 BEPAY.bridge at price 0.00010000 BTC.bridge/BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 12:50:36   26452153
limit order create   justin1990 sell 6231 BEPAY.bridge at price 0.00011494 BTC.bridge/BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 12:50:00   26452141
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fill order   justin1990 paid 0.00352396 BTC.bridge, received 53 BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 12:48:15   26452106
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fill order   justin1990 paid 0.00248372 BTC.bridge, received 46.0801582 BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 12:48:15   26452106
fill order   justin1990 paid 0.010668 BTC.bridge, received 254 BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 12:48:15   26452106
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fill order   justin1990 paid 0.00342634 BTC.bridge, received 153.3040222 BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 12:48:15   26452106
fill order   justin1990 paid 0.02302035 BTC.bridge, received 1030.4558652 BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/26 12:48:15   26452106
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limit order create   justin1990 sell 0.11278167 BTC.bridge at price 12500.0000000 BEPAY.bridge/BTC.bridge   2018/04/26 12:48:15   2645210

UPDATE SCAMDEV CROP + BYTEPAY
27-04-2018
Already made BTC.bridge 2.84056929
By dumping premine
http://explorer.bytepay.org/tx/b13a56b4c9df2d368644b5f005391fdba3882107434977b319473f1e39cd660a

Scammer dev Bytepay just made a new account to dump more
http://explorer.bytepay.org/tx/4527db5ce6750dcbffadc87d5dfd567055533fd61756a1f3d3eb3f294339bc65


limit order create   justdoit2 sell 1344 BEPAY.bridge at price 0.00007987 BTC.bridge/BEPAY.bridge   2018/04/27 21:18:33   26490990
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account create   cryptobridge register justdoit2, referrer: cryptobridge   2018/04/27 20:53:18   26490488

The thread creator status is a newbie. That means this guy specially created an ID for creating this thread and creating FUD. O Boy you were somewhat successful coz few ppl followed you and dumped Crops cheaply.
The guy just got sick of Crop success in a very short time.

But the dev is still available and ready to answer questions and there are ppl in the Crop community who are ready to help. I myself is holding around 70K coins in 4 MNs and there are many who has more than 50K coins and holding strong. So your FUD strategy will never work.

If you have the guts, post your discord id in this thread and come on Crop discord for a healthy discussion.

Note : I myself is a newbie on this forum but I dont sell false stories and create FUD


STOP your FUD

Did you disprove anything that the OP has shown, or anything else linked through the thread? Is it just FUD, or is it based on facts?

I do find it interesting how a "newbie to the forum" found his way here on his own, apparently. With intricate knowledge about "the dev being here." It's almost as if you were told to come here... Hmm

It's also interesting how the OP actually has a bag of the coins he's saying are scams. Why would he want the price on those coins to drop if he owns a bunch?

Yes go to CROP and have a healthy discussion with the dev so he can BAN YOU  ;D

The way cropdev and bytedev talk is exactly the same style. They were even online at the same time today and left at the same time.

And to those cropdev lovers, he has never cared about the community so you can stop the charade.  If you want to gamble go ahead and buy into crop or bytepay nobody is taking it away from you.

This is just an information thread and nobody forces anyone to do anything.

Ignorance is bliss in the Crop Discord channel.
Must be because 75-80% of the coin supply is locked into masternodes.
What does that leave you with, no other option then to believe the dev's BS.

Of course I'm not using the same account here as my main one because the main one is actively getting more info in the discord servers....
Fact osnwt never demanded payment, he clearly stated that his explorer is always updated and the official one the dev pointed to was not (this explorer wasn't even the dev's own one..) The dev needed a fall guy as he was getting exposed

You guys trust this dev blindly
New evidence to ponder for all you blind followers.
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180430/rmbv8kdn.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
Why would he ask for a community member to use proof of identify to get listed on CoinExchange? (looking for another fall guy if shit hits the fan)

More things to go ask the dev to prove he is not the scammer
Screenshot his wallet showing his premine balance total
Screenshot some of the development on the "Market place"
Why did his activity in Discord slowly kept on declining since the Bytepay coin went live?
Why is he promising a 1 click masternode, the same promise Bytepay is making?
Why did Crop a few days after the Bytepay Explorer get the same Explorer upgrade?
Why does Crop and Bytepay discord links always expire, other coins don't? (Hint he always wants to be in control, self moderated topics on the forum, delete ban in discord...)
Coincidence? So many can't be true

Still waiting on anyone to say why the same BTC address that sold 270k Crop coins by a new user on CB was used to pay the listing fee for Bytepay to get listed on CB.
 

Everyone knows that CrapPayDev offers airdrops for positive talks on BitcoinTalk and Discord. That is ok if not being moderated.

The purpose of this thread is not to stop anybody from holding or trading crop or bypay. As it was said many times, everyone can make a lot of money on this. The purpose is to make investors well informed what stands behind, and why these coins are the high risk investment (even being a profitable one). The are good short-term, but in the long run there is nothing behind, apart from a mystic BEPAY HODLbank which I believe never happens, same as promised CROP marketplace... To do this should be a real TEAM.

It was funny to see how that "dev" asked for id from a community member (see the link above (http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180430/rmbv8kdn.jpg)). If there is anyone besides him in his "team", why not use his id then? Don't you think it looks very funny? Or maybe he has no team at all?

Every statement in this thread has proof links which everyone can check. Difficult to say the same about the original thread, see questions above.

More questions: it was said on crop discord that after tiered masternodes go live, crop will be listed on Binance ($100,000 worth for the listing) using premined coins. I have no crops but still wonder WHEN I see it there... Or maybe recent massive CROP dump was to get BTC for the listing?

And finally, the FUD word now is being used by everyone, and if you say something unpleasant to the thread/channel owner, it is easy to tell you spread the FUD. But look at what the FUD actually means (Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt)). It is Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. In this thread there is no any Uncertainty and Doubt. Instead, it provides you with a lot of information and facts which you can and should check if concerned. It is quite certain about these facts, and there is no any doubt that almost every fact here everyone can verify. As for the Fear, then maybe. But the purpose of the thread is to provide a lot of background information so everyone who invests, does it with full understanding and without fear. If you still have concerns, check, investigate and make a well informed decision. That's it.

Whatever it is, I hope that the BYTEPAY project to its depth can run smoothly in accordance with all expectations

Delusional much man?
did you even read?

CryptoExpose,

everyone has own expectations  :D

Just look at the guys trust rating, no wonder :D

https://imgur.com/1MhNHjG
bytepaydev shamelessly asking people to upgrade their nodes to 10k for a "better network and more stable ROI".  Same boosting style he has used on CROP coin, but this time he is blatantly asking people to upgrade and not because there is a higher tier coming. Would not be surprised if he's the one who wants to sell his coins.

This is not about whether you can make money, it's about whether you will be the last person to buy the coins before it plummets due to the facts that have been presented here.  No REAL investor will ever buy this coin long term, so keep handing it out to the next guy if you get lucky, but who says you are not the last guy?

What the Bytepay dev scam artist made so far
BYTEPAY DEV ACCOUNTS      BYTEPAY Deposited   BTC withdrawn
justdoit2                                      103749                   4.75727824
justin1990                                    63031.28028          4.67857824
nintendo2ds                                 106998.8688                     
         
         
                                                 273779.149              9.43585648

Can't agree with that: he is NOT an idiot. He does exactly what he wants: he makes money. And here he is very good.

Let me fix that scam artist

il'l reply here because our other debate was deleted for spamming the thread.

My advice to you and all investors is get in on masternode coins right at the start and than don't hold everything you make like you seem to have done on cropcoin. Dump until you have your money back and a small profit than you can hold with no risk associated.
I have done this exact thing with at least 30 masternode coins and i am yet to fail with this strategy.

Even coins being called scams by people like yourself such as race/tokugawa/sparks and banq i made a good profit from with my masternodes before the decrease in price. Bytepay has a good few months of high roi at the very least in it which is really what us investors care about and which i personally will take advantage of.

Even though your question is asked in sarcasm i will respond anyhow, i wouldn't be setting up a cropcoin masternode because it is too late to start new nodes now for that coin, i would be setting up a bytepay one instead.

If you want to make a quick earn off cropcoin you could just buy/sell it a few times because i think the price will fluctuate between 3k.-4.5ksats for the next few days. What i do find astounding though is that even after being in the crypto world for this long some people still don't seem to have worked out how it all works when it is the easiest place possible to make a hell of a lot of cash.

Now please stop wasting your time with witch hunts and make yourself some money from the crypto space because that is what it is all really about.

First, thank you for the answer. Just because not too easy to find people who can stand behind his words and argue with some facts.

Funny that you did not reply in the coin thread to legit questions "which exchanges have it for trading", "when promised Binance listing will occur" and "should I buy the coin now". Sure not because it is SPAM/FUD, but because you knew it will be removed instantly (and my questions were removed in 5 minutes). So you replied in non-moderated topic instead.

Here is the deleted message:


In your reply you made an assumption that I lost money with CROP. CROP was my 2nd masternode coin, so I was not experienced on entry. When I entered this, I looked mostly on the instant ROI as most of newcomers do. When I realised that this coin is a purely speculative one, I had some coins bought at high price (early on the start at 39000 satoshi). I was trying to do everything I could to keep it running at good price. When found that the coin has issues from old codebase to support (missing explorer, missing dev team, bad dev attitude), I offered some help like providing automated builds for all platforms ("just give me missing source images"), making a FAQ in my section, etc. It was completely ignored or censored (removed) since I asked too many questions and exposed weak issues.

Then I start trying to recover money from it. I spent a month helping people on discord, made an explorer when the only one was broken after hard fork and neither "dev" nor his contracted coder were online at critical time, I made a page with masternode stats, and I was trading at the same time. So finally I even made some money and exited at 6000 sat price and some profit. So I haven't lost a cent on it and also learned a lot.

No problem with CropPayDev that he runs SCAM coins by definition. The issue is that he lies people around. I don't like when people are not informed what they should expect. I exited well, but many others at high losses. So this thread was not started by me, but it has a purpose to warn newcomers (like I was a month ago) to be careful.

I don't care much that CropDev made at least 500,000 USD on CROP. What I care is he promises features which will never be delivered. CROP will never have marketplace (just no need when BTC fees are at $0.02 now), neither listed at Binance as promised. BytePay will never have HODLbank just because it is nonsense. The dev dumps all premine from coin and starts making another one. He doesn't need any hold/lock features for his coins. And people already have stakes which is a kind of bank interest. So all those tiered masternodes and hodlbanks are pure marketing bullshit. Quite successful one, I must admire.

So you are absolutely correct that this coin may be used to make profit (as many others). And actually CROP is one of successful projects, I never said the other. But for long-term hold it is not the coin to keep and expect a brilliant future. As much as this is truth, the same truth is that BytePayDev lies that he has no relation to CropCoinDev - too much coincidences can't occur. And the goal for this thread is to show people that he lies.

People still tell me that he uses my name on discord to put into mud. He tells I demanded some ransom from him. But that is pure lie, and it was never confirmed by a single screenshot. That is not the behaviour which a good dev team should expose. That IS the real issue between me and him: I hate liars.

It is perfectly fine when people make money on this knowing that it is a Ponzi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme) or Pyramid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme) schema coin. But please call it like yet another one masternode coin. I like the attitude which Nikonium (NUKO) developers use: "This is a coin with no value made for education, don't expect much from it". It still is being traded very well, and no one tells that he was fooled. That is what I accept.

So this is not the fight with a coin, it is the fight with the liar who removes everything undesired instead of giving explanation a bit better than "they are haters and blackmailers asking for ransom".

Don't you agree?

Look the idiot can't even do maths.

Quote from: kronos123 on Today at 09:01:15 AM

I only discovered this coin today and I wanted to get some re-entry from the Dev:

1) looks very similar to the cropcoin (maximum feed, block time, algorithm, masternode system). Because? Are you in touch with Dev from Cropcoin?

2) Can I run my Masternode in my portfolio with clik or do I have to do it with vps? Click on Masternode in the portfolio is already implemented? When will it be?

3) How will you stop the supply of 100 million coins? Only with the 140 masternodes of today, around 10 million new coins are generated each month, and this number is bound to grow.
Is there a reduction in the reward of the block?


Quote from: kevinmark1 on Today at 13:57:45 PM

3)Yes the block reward will be reduced after a year and community can vote any time to change it.

As much as I want to admit that I'm not tempted with what you are saying, people like you is what destroying crypto.  You are basically saying if you aware it's a scam then jump it anyways and then scam the next guy with it, as long as you are making money you are doing the right thing.

If people are aware a coin is a scam and not buy into it then that scam will die very fast, instead you fueling the scam even more and ultimately you scam the person who is going to lose all his money in the end, if that makes you feel like a good human being then I feel sorry for our planet.

We should not be telling people to buy scam because it's a good way of making money, we should tell people not to buy the scam because this is not what crypto is all about.

Ultimately the person who is making the most money is the "developer" himself, in this case it's cropcoindev and his new current name Bytepaydev.

cropcoindev/Bytepaydev is probably laughing right now at every person who is helping his scams thrive, and whenever he mentions some gimmick you guys are all over it.

His latest gimmick is the oneclick masternode, he most likely is catering to the newbies of crypto so it's easier to scam them due to the ease of set up, this is not about helping people, it's about creating easier ways of taking advantage of them.

In Bitcoin, every feature serves to a particular purpose. In these coins every new "feature" serves the only one: attract newcomers to the coin. Let's have a look:

1) Masternode one click setup.

In DASH masternodes serve to the network providing a lot of functions. Some of them are: InstantSend, PrivateSend, Governance. These services are necessary to work 24/7/365, and masternodes are paid for these services.

In CropPay (and most of other clones) masternodes are only way to earn money. They still can do PrivateSend and InstantSend. but Governance is not used (and even does not exist in that old code). Many people know what the Dash Governance is? Masternode operators VOTE for independent developers offers and if most voted for a feature, the originator of request is paid by a network without any airdrops or gifts. This means that masternode operators should vote. How many people who use "one click setup" will do that? How does it help to network?

2) Tiered masternodes.

They have no service to the network at all. They only provide undefined emission since no one knows how many of each kind will exist. Do you think that random emission is good for a coin? They only serve to make entrance cheaper. But this is only to make money, not to provide network services including governance.

3) HODLbank.

There are other coins which introduce it. One example is PegasCoin with its DOB (Deposits On Blockchain), where you can freeze some amount for some fixed time, and get interest on that. But PGC has a lot of code to provide that. There is no any real use to the network from that feature. It is almost the same as staked coins, where you can stop it at any time.

It was said that CROP has a kind of escrow address where most dev premined coins were held. As you see, there is no any support for escrow in the code, and there is nothing which prevented full dump of that address.

4) Undefined emission.

The only one way to change it is to change the code and make a fork. This way was tested on CROP when after 20 coins it was raised to 100, then changed again. It was said that "community will vote for best rewards". But when was time to release, and many (including me) asked "when will we vote for it", the answer from cropdev was: "We set the best rewards", and no any vote was conducted.

So the only way to change it is the arbitrary decision of one person, the "dev". Do you think it will help to make a coin popular when at any time you may find it was forked a week ago and all your latest coins are not spendable? That exactly what happened with many CROP holders. Do you think Bitcoin was so popular if it changed blockchain parameters once a week or month?

ALL THESE tricks are to attract people who wants to make money. In that case the CropPay is the best of most shitcoins around. But if you think these coins may be used for long term investment, you are blind.

No that is not true at all. I am recommending to newbies especially how they can make money with masternodes and how to recover there funds so they don't end up at a loss and in a situation where they can't continue to trade. The problem i see with a lot of newbies is that they become loyalists/fanatics of coins and end up just holding and holding and saying statements like "i will never dump any of these coins for a year or so at least" or "don't dump under X amount of sats because you will regret it" which is entirely the wrong way to do things. And as for the scam jump on in anyways section i actually think all masternode coins are total rubbish aside from dash and if using your criteria nearly every single one of them is a scam because they all have large premines and are all clones and are all just another payment coin that will never be used. Do you think ANY of these coins will still be around in 10 years time? Does that make them ALL scams? People are into crypto to make money not to become fanatics of certain coins, i don't set up masternodes to join some cult i do it to make money. This is my full time job and if i do not make money i cannot pay my bills and feed my family and that is my priority. This is what happens in an unregulated marketplace and if people don't like it than they shouldn't trade in crypto and should stick to the stock markets with low return "legit" investments" instead but as you know the potential rewards are much much less. If you take risk away from crypto investments the returns will not be what they are now which is why this is not what is wrong with crypto but what is exactly how it should be.

You do realize that the only way for people to come out of loss is to scam the next guy, if people ever done their homework about any coin they invest in, then their odds of not being scammed would be higher.

Also saying that every crypto project is a scam is false. Yes crypto is very high risk because like any company it has a 90% chance of failing. That is life though and it was not meant to be a scam.

There are plenty of coins out there that are not ROI ONLY based, and they actually want to create something in the crypto space, whether it will successful or not is another story, but they are not SCAM.

Your only high return is off of fools that have no clue about crypto and buy into scam coins, and you are proud of it too.

As I stated before, people like you is what makes crypto look bad.  I don't give a damn about your family sentiments, because you are scamming people off THEIR MONEY, you are potentially taking away money from another guy who needs it.

As I stated before, if people would not invest in scam coins then this space would've been a better place, maybe not HIGH ROI, which only few people most likely get out of this whole ordeal, only the last guys are the losers.

I just don't know why people like you bother giving this whole speech about how scamming people is OK, I'd just keep quiet somewhere and keep it to myself.

sigh. You really don't understand how crypto works or comprehend anything of what i said i see. It really is a shame that there are so many ignorant people around in the younger generation.
I can see why you waste all your time chasing after worthless causes because you are simply unable to grasp the concept or the inner workings behind the entire scene right now.
One day you will grow up and see that it's a dog eat dog world and that NO-1 should invest money into anything without re-searching it properly. You clearly talk of what you do not know, apart from dash EVERY masternode coin is a scam and every single one of the projects will fail.
They are a make money now thing and none will be around in the future and the devs of all of these projects fully realize that and are taking advantage of the current crypto economic climate. For example "polis" is well respected among newbie masternode holders but do you really see everyone using polispay in the future? Of course not because it simply will not be able to get mass adoption and tbh why the hell would anyone want to use it. All these projects are total rubbish.

At least osnwt's debate makes some good solid points and for the most part i don't disagree with him. He seems to understand the true reality of crypto as he has stated his problem is not with the coin but the dev himself.
But you just have a problem with the whole system and you don't even realize it. Do you think that people in the crypto space are not here to make money but to follow some sort of ethical guide? Well that's not how things work i'm afraid.

I'm not giving a speech about scamming is ok, i'm giving a speech about how to make money and not get caught up in the fanatic role or the policing the crypto scene role while the whales reap all the rewards. You need to get your piece of the pie to survive in this world it is crypto and full of drug dealers/money launderers/corrupt government officials and tax evaders not some ethics committee of girl scouts and church pastors.

You are right, I am being too idealistic about crypto and the world. 

I hope people will read what you said and make a more informed decision.

I would like to believe that not every coin is the definition of scam, some people have an actual vision and not there to just make quick profits. if I was going to invest in a coin, I would do it with a real vision and not the typical copy paste website, or unrealistic goals.

I see many people who join this space with the notion of making money long term, not just quick cash. I have not been around MN coins enough to know whether they will thrive or not, I only join projects with a development team and realistic goals.

90% of the coins will most likely fail as any business.

As much as I can see where you are coming from, I have to believe that there are good people out there and even if they lose their money at least it would be
on a real practical vision and not some scam coin and if they get lucky then even better. ;D

In the end stock market or crypto is mostly speculation. 


My only wish is that people stop fueling scammers like cropcoindev aka bytepaydev.

It is good to see that we have in fact found some common ground on some points. I was starting to think before that we will have to agree to disagree because our viewpoints were starting to seem like polar opposites.
But i do agree with you that it is unfortunate that there are so many unscrupulous players around but it is the world we live in and we have to do the best to make what we can from the situation.

I would like to see some new outstanding masternode coin emerge where everyone is a winner but the way masternodes are designed is almost like ponzi schemes unless they are made with a much lower roi to begin with than there are always going to be vast differences with early and later adopters and clear winners and losers on all of them.

The thing is your a day trader, different rules apply to you.
In fact if I could short all these crapcoins I would have been even more successful as a day trader myself.
Most new blood in crypto want to buy and hold long term, masternodes provide both that and a passive income daily. (or it looks like it at first)

This topic is to expose Bytepay and Crop being run by the same scammer. It's full of evidence (BTC address being shared) and as long as new comers to the crypto game can be warned about the scam I can feel like a did my part to stop them from loosing money and rather skip joining the crypto revolution

Dev just dumped 40k coins in the last hour on CB and when a user complained on Discord after the price dropped to 0.00002803   BTC. Instantly moderated and replied to with this.
Bytepaydev - Today at 8:37 PM
They just dont know what we are going to reveal so soon

What a joker

That's all he ever does, gives people ambiguous news, then you go figure what it means or if it will ever be delivered.

That project is just a copy from Minexcoin  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847292.0

There are a bunch of coins that let you lock for certain percentage, this is not a new concept. Having ROI of +1000% and hodlbank is a joke, just a gimmick for newbies.

These coins (as well as many other MNs coins) are examples of Ponzi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme) or Pyramid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme) schemes which are illegal in most countries. If it happened to you to be on the top of pyramid does not mean everyone will be so happy in the end.

Bitcoin provided the 1st cryptocurrency and introduced the blockchain. Ethereum provides the fuel for smart contracts. Dash invented the community governance model and widely supported. So they add a real value. But coins like Crop or BePay provide nothing revolutionary new except well-known fraudulent schemes. And those who will be last, will pay for your success.

This topic is not about coins, BTW, if you ever read it.

Only because you  made money from a coin, it does not mean it's legit, it has no real value outside of scamming the next guy.
so coming here and bragging about making money does not make the coin a legit project.

It seems that cropcoin and bytepay have the same MOD, MKS#1836. Although it may not seem odd, I find it way too convenient when a lead MOD on crop is also a mod on bytepay with the same dictatorial tendencies, if he does not like what you say then you get banned.

I've been in many legit discord coins and no matter how bad you are, you would never get banned, because they believe in long term growth. Unlike crop and bytepay scam which only rely on hype because they have nothing to show other than that.

Don't be mislead with sweet talk and help on discord, they are only helping themselves. I suspect that even Mr Happy#9949 is aware of the scam and just playing it out because he's too heavily invested.

You see it time and time again, people hype a coin only because they are heavily invested. I've seen it on END coin.  The devs bailed and the members still kept their hopes high 2 months later, telling everyone that the devs are simply working hard and have no time to communicate. That's just wishful thinking, not logic.

Don't be mislead from the high volumes demand on bepay crypto-bridge. Those are fake orders at the very bottom, unrealistic prices with very high volume orders.

If anyone ever wonders why a coin has such a high volume then it's either true demand or someone put up a very high order on the bottom of the bid list to make it look like there is high demand for the coin. don't be fooled.

100% on the dot man.

This is the fake buy order.
Sell 0.83025 BTC.bridge for 1350000.0000003 BEPAY.bridge   162601.6260163   BTC.bridge:BEPAY.bridge

This account already sold 87k bytepay for 4.6BTC

All wondering why the price stays low?
This user http://www.cryptofresh.com/u/walesman54
Dumped around 210k coins over the last 10 days, got another 40k ready to dump.
No coins ever bought so who do you think it is?
Your scammer Dev uses multiple accounts to dump his premine.
If he was a legit man only 1 account was needed to sell in the orderbook to fund his project

I've been wondering myself how there is such a high volume but the price is still the same. I feel bad for all those people who buying those coins from the dev.

CryptoExpose, do you know why the dev keeps sending his premine to different addresses so often? Is it darksend? I've been trying to follow his premine and he keeps moving it all the time.

Yeah it sucks that people are buying into this scam coin.

Think he knows people can track it and is trying to make it as difficult as he can for all of them.
I do know these wallets also sometimes sends your "change" to a new address when sending coins.
Also explains why he's been using over 5 accounts on CB alone to dump the coins.

More shady proof of scam dev

Masternode Online stats are incorrect for Tiered Masternodes.
The ROI is out by about 40-50%
They are using the wrong formula when calculating reward frequency.
Should be using Total amount of masternodes with all tiers included.
Amount of blocks per day / Total of masternodes (All tiers) <--- Correct Formula
They are using Amount of blocks per day / Specific tier Masternodes <--- Incorrect Formula

Yesterday in Discord the dev (scammer) was told about this. Yet he insists they are correct.
The only reason to do this is by having the ROI displayed incorrectly too high and attract new buyers with fake info.
All proof was given to the dev but only ignored by him.
Don't trust the scammer

Just got banned from Discord for nothing, I did not even say anything in the channel and got banned.
Don't trust a person like this that just bans for no reason at all

They are just insecure about their project. They ban any person that puts the slightest of doubt on people because all they have is their FOMO.
When will people realize that a real project would not ban people, even with "FUD" it would not matter because a real project bets on LONGEVITY not current prices.

It is also funny what Mr Happy said:

"@Gosha77761   Well - our Dev is too busy being sick and having a family life.   The show must still go on, and he needs to update the roadmap, get the 30K wallet released and put out a coin reduction schedule to reduce the coin burn.   @cropcoindev"

source: http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180511/j5qavgnr.jpg

While the dev is on bytepay discord active for days.  Maybe they are trying to put a charade to debunk the facts. I think it's too late for that now, facts are facts,
cropcoindev is bytepaydev.

I don't know if Mr Happy is officially apart of the scam, but it seems that he threw away his morality and now consistently lying to the crop community just to cover for the dev.

For sure MKS#1836 is the same in both channels

I have met several such dishonest people on this forum several times. one must be very careful with such people. They can not be trusted and we should behave cautiously with them.

I've got banned on their duscord for saying obvious things..
My point is always the same for ALL coins.

1. It is stupid to call anybody "dev" (which means - developer) if that person just forked a code in github and paid $20 for fancy website.
2. It is even more stupid to make them "sacred" :)

Really, that's so funny (and sometimes said) seeing adults acting like kindergarten children.

I agree, the so called "dev" has very basic programming skills, I'm not even sure how he can fork a coin, maybe someone showed him.
I also find it hilarious on how when he would say stuff like "this is the very first tier coin" , or "we're most decentralized", people get so excited like a bunch of
kids. I can't believe how easily people are manipulated on that discord from a few simple, sometimes greatly over exaggerated statements.

you guys all missed the most obvious sign regarding crop and bytecrap being same dev

Not so much the. Thanks

at the end of both dev's comments, even i say. Thanks

But BOTH bytepay and cropcoindev DO NOT add a space at end of each sentence after fullstop.Lol.Like i am doing now.There is no gap following fullstop.Go look

Most people. Add the space. After full stop. End of sentence

Next great plan by Bytepayscammer

Drop the 5k, 10k and 40k tier.
Keep 20k and introduce 50K, 75k and 100k tier.

Only thing this will help with is to artificially raise the price by forcing people to not sell rewards to save up to be able to run a masternode.
Seems familiar? Yes, it is as the same strategy was applied to Crop each time the price dropped forcing people to save up to run a masternode.

Scam dev does it again.

Bytepaydev - Today
Ok
i have mentioned everyone two times
and there isnt any who said no
so i think 20k is going to be the least tier
Doing it

Take not this above was said for 5 minutes and a decision has been made again.
Seems familiar? Yes because the exact same type of voting happened in Crop when it came to collateral needs for masternodes.

Some users were also trying to get some more details from how hodlbank will work.
User: Where will hodlbank get coins from to pay the interest?
Scammerdev: from 2 million premine
User: and if that runs out?
Scammerdev: Good question
we will decrease the hodlbank interest over time
And we are not staking now but we will stake with that amount once its live

So there you have it once again. Interest rate that will decrease the longer you "invest"
How long does he think the 2mil premine will last for this?
Ask yourself does this sound like a well thought out plan?

I wonder when will people stop playing this game of monopoly... Same stupid pattern all the time, price goes down, increase the collateral to give people an incentive to buy more coins to keep their masternode running. REALITY CHECK -> The same people that are holding will attempt to buy more coins to keep their masternodes running, those are NOT NEW INVESTORS.

People think money comes from thin air, money comes from other people, if there are no people then your coins are worthless!

Those who are reading this topic just see these newbies history.All are noobs with free time to Fud.All these are ransom seekers newbiews and some brand news.
Just ignore these Fudders.Not even a single valid post about any coin.
You know the reason?Because they dont have  any Crypto they are just jealous of seeing you all being rich they missed the opportunity because of wasting time and being speculative and ignorant so they are Crying and just ignore these childish trollers.
Cryptoexpose you and tissmbs wont get any Ransom keep posting the fud everywhere and waste time but i wont give you any ransom that you seek

Oh look the "big man" himself is finally giving us a piece of his wisdom.

Yes, you are "right", everybody in crypto is rich. Your scam must be paying off nicely if you feel that way. Your ransom is worth pennies to be honest, I would not even buy your coins at 0.00000000000000003btc.

I would rather invest in a real project with 50% ROI, at least I know I'll get my money back...  With your scam you need to double up every other day to even keep your money's worth.

Yes people See he admitted he wanted Ransom I have quoted so that he doesnot change it later.See he admitted that he seeks Ransom and its worth pennies.These guys are not even worth pennies.Cheers that everyone know now these guys are ransom seeker fudders.
And about investing lol if you had anything you would not be here trolling we both know it you have nothing.You will be worth same all life keep making new accounts to Fud.Ransom wont be given fudder
This is my last ever post here Good luck with time wasting fud

You are more stupid than I imagined... Or is it that you think everybody around you is stupid, is that why you act the way you do? Who would want your worthless coins? There are plenty of projects out there that I'm invested in, I would not spend a penny on you or would want to be apart of your scam, that also counts for holding any of your coins.

Show me proof that someone wanted ransom from you? Instead of coming here and making a fool out of yourself, why don't you go and care for your weeping community because your scam coin is going to the ground.  Who would want to be apart of someone so unsophisticated.

It seems like the same guy is trying to create a buy wall

i-hodl    0.00000335    50,000    0.1675    0.63
foxxy7    0.00000332    3,012    0.01    0.64
muagiatminh90    0.0000033    12,121    0.04    0.68
slowww1    0.00000317    8,571    0.02717    0.707
evilcrypto1    0.00000315    3,000    0.00945    0.716
justin1990    0.00000315    270,000    0.85    1.567
ruffalo2674    0.00000101    39,604    0.04    1.607
rm0713    0.000001    31,380    0.0314    1.638

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180516/alzkkyo3.gif

Looks like we have a desperate man trying to save his scam coin.
If any of the things we said were false you would have defended it in your own topic so that all the people can see and not delete it all the time.
I suppose it's very hard to defend something that you have no way to defend because it's a scam!!!!

True character revealed by this man trying to pretend people wanted ransom from him. Why would we ever want your shitcoin, it's worth nothing.
By the looks of things people are starting to see the truth if I look at the prices for both your coins.
Keep up your hard delete work looks like it is paying of to delete  :D

Yeah he even lowered his buy price sometime yesterday, this order has been running for a few weeks to provide a nice 0.8BTC fake buy order so it looks a little better when you look at the market dept
At this moment 866k Bytepay coins waiting on CB to dump. Only 370k in the order book.

Who wants to place some bets that as soon as the scammer comes online in discord justin1990 will cancel his buy order if he is not too late.
He already bought himself some 80k coins for 0.2BTC

Edit
Update from Bytepaydev on Discord
Bytepaydev - Today at 11:46 AM
@everyone
we will release new wallet soon
Changes will take place at block 60,000
You can run your masternodes now but ensure to update before block 60k as rewards received wont be reedemable after block 60k on new wallet
Thanks for filling some orders we got much bytepay back

justin1990 order filled up. so is that the dev confirming it's his account?

Scammer trying to convince people he is not dumping

Bytepaydev - Today at 12:49
i have all premine there how am i millionaire?

Shows premine address with 3.3mil coins
Remember premine was 4mil...


Bytepaydev - Today at 12:47
there are more 350k that we bought in cryptobridge today

Yet only account that's showing those numbers is the justin1990 account sitting with 282639.9776987
So who's the lying bastard yet again.

Just remember the justion1990 account was used to dump 87k coins at much higher prices and he withdrew 4.67857824 BTC from that.
The other 0.8BTC was left and he bought himself 270k coins today.
Scammer trying to look innocent.

Yes... It is more convincing now than ever that he is justin1990.  Nothing is great about making well over 4.5BTC and then spending only 0.8BTC to so called "stabilize" the price.
He is only  trying to save his own ass.  With no value, his millions of coins will be worthless. Who would join a project with a dev holding 3.3M+ coins... Suicide.

Someone I know got booted from their discord after seeing the below chat.

MKS - Today at 10:42 PM
not at that moment
Bytepaydev - Today at 10:42 PM
I consider price to be same and we will try to be way above that
i offered him 500 intstead of even 250 still he isnt thankful
And i am telling you we bought 300k and more today
who buys own coin
ever heard somewhere
not even for 1 satoshi but we still did
MKS - Today at 10:43 PM
i was surprised myself why would you do that
coz i said yesterday dev will not buy coins to manipulate the price
Bytepaydev - Today at 10:44 PM
yep but we have to make some walls and it was set as NEVER HAPPEN stage
but it did lol
i just saw it filled today
so you should all know even we go to 1 satoshi i will bring it up no matter what
MKS - Today at 10:45 PM
you have more orders on exchange?(edited)
Bytepaydev - Today at 10:45 PM
no
MKS - Today at 10:45 PM
better
Bytepaydev - Today at 10:45 PM
we will have after some days'
and we will facilitate price and make it stable

Price manipulation from the devs?
Not good..

Anon

Awesome that confirms what I said yesterday, he forgot his fake buy order on the exchange and it dumped right into it.
Now he claims he bought back to help the community

Funny how the same problems are always apparent with new wallet releases on both these coins. Crop and Bytepay

Users always have to wait a few days for the Mac wallet. Must be due to the fact that this scammer relies on someone else to compile it for him

New Info
Scammer running 50 x 40k Masternodes and dumping on exchange.

Account: walesman54
Coins needed for MN's: 2mil
Deposited: 530k Bytepay coins
BTC Withdrawn: 11.4706
Masternodes Rewards address: http://explorer.bytepay.org/address/BFJcKkzbNu7QcZzuBnw2BsZFPJ9v7K9tQv

I wonder what will he say this time? Another one of his "investors"?  He sold over 480k coins in only 2 weeks.

This is true for almost all coins on the mastercoin online list STOP SCARE PEOPLE OFF!!!

i think that ARGO / CROPCOIN / BYTEPAY dev, are in reality the same person or crap team. the bytepay dev launched the 1 click mn feature, the same one that the ARGO dev has postponned till now...

Please go read the whole thread. It's full of facts showing this coin is indeed run by a scammer.
The purpose of the thread is not to scare people but to expose the scammer and educate potential investors in the crypto world.

If it is true to most coins then most coins are a scam, bytepay and cropcoin are a part of that pool of scams, that is true.

I would not be surprised if benag is the dev impersonating someone else... Seems like the same mentality, all alt coins are shit coins hence his shit coin is legit. Such dumb logic.

I noticed Crop might be doing a code base change and that leads to a swap.
Will that give access to a new pool of premined coins?

The dev would do anything just to make it look like there is development activity... I'm surprised there is still demand for this coin, their roadmap is literally generic, so many better coins out there.  He claimed market  place investors 2 months ago and you have heard nothing about it since.  I'm pretty sure bytepay is headed in the same direction, he is barely active there anymore, Only ROI chasers buy that coin. Someone is really going to get burned there, same as CROP coin. Would not be surprised if he's already working on his next scam.

Dev's account on CB dumping huge loads: walesman54

cryptobridge register walesman54, referrer: cryptobridge   2018/04/30 17:03:18   26572004
cryptobridge issue 3622 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/04/30 17:17:36   26572290
cryptobridge issue 6800 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/04/30 23:32:21   26579759
cryptobridge issue 8520 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/01 21:54:51   26606528
cryptobridge issue 2080 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/02 07:27:36   26617943
cryptobridge issue 9190 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/02 14:20:30   26626176
cryptobridge issue 8960 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/03 13:39:33   26654076
cryptobridge issue 17940 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/04 14:25:42   26683692
cryptobridge issue 12880 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/08 22:48:36   26808515
cryptobridge issue 9190 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/02 14:20:30   2662617
cryptobridge issue 8960 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/03 13:39:33   26654076
cryptobridge issue 17940 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/04 14:25:42   26683692
cryptobridge issue 12880 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/08 22:48:36   26808515
cryptobridge issue 7740 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 08:04:03   26819588
cryptobridge issue 14260 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 10:55:39   26823011
cryptobridge issue 14260 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 13:55:39   26826596
cryptobridge issue 14260 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 16:30:09   26829676
cryptobridge issue 13020 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 18:50:21   26832471
cryptobridge issue 9920 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 21:02:12   26835097
cryptobridge issue 10540 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/09 23:18:39   26837820
cryptobridge issue 45880.5 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/10 08:52:06   26849260
cryptobridge issue 9920 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/10 10:55:30   26851720
cryptobridge issue 97340 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/11 10:46:27   26880244
cryptobridge issue 16120 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/11 14:49:45   26885093
cryptobridge issue 39060 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/12 00:41:24   26896888
cryptobridge issue 31620 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/12 08:47:15   26906577
cryptobridge issue 23560 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/12 14:52:18   26913859
cryptobridge issue 35960 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/13 01:05:39   26926078
cryptobridge issue 28520 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/13 08:56:15   26935459
cryptobridge issue 2 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/19 23:13:33   27124139
cryptobridge issue 88444 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/20 20:38:57   27149749
cryptobridge issue 89912 BEPAY.bridge to cryptobridge   2018/05/21 19:59:09   27177658

Total of 709300.5 Bytepay on CB sold of for 12.6909BTC
Then the guys keep wondering why the price is so low

Funny thing is that the official bepay thread is self moderated , so the admin KEEPS deleting my posts warning users not to invest in this scammy and shady project.

Too sad , man. Too sad. People will lose money on this

People on there actually think that the price will come back, just wow... That coin literally has nothing innovative, the moment people people lay their hands on something, they just won't admit to themselves that they made a mistake.

People, there is a big chance that Pentanode is the latest scam of this dev... Same gimmicky bs, but even more greedy this time.  He keeps delaying cryptobridge so he can sell more of his premine to people...

Cropcoindev just checked in on discord (Again bytepaydev also checked in 5 minutes before him on the other discord)

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180525/zedqsn3q.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Not one user complained about not being able to use Cryptobridge.
So once again scammer noticed this because he was busy trying to dump some coins?

Just to add both scammers went offline in both discord channels at the same time again

It doesn't disprove my claim. It's not like they would tell you what language they speak especially after scamming people all the time.  He is learning from his mistakes, but he's still not good enough to hide his identity. 

fair enough, I'll remove my posts and start a new thread.

There is your truth and there is my truth, lets agree to disagree.

Scammer returning to his earlier scam project as bytepay is almost 100% and Mr Happy was able to keep this project going without the dev for a few weeks keeping the price just above life support for him to keep selling off MN rewards.

Don't trust and fall for this.
The scammer used 2BTC to pretend demand for the coin has risen. Account used: arnold2
He bought 373736 Crop coins, be ready for these to dump as soon as the buy orders start filling up

New Crop Wallet is out, same problem as always no Mac wallet released yet but the new chain is about to start.
Funny how Bytepay has the same wallet Mac issue....never on time and always on google drive

is OLMP same dev group?  No github activity, just compiled wallet

Could not really see anything linking them.
The only thing is they did fork the Crop code at some stage to introduce the tiers.

So he started selling these coins on higher price as I said would happen.
272401 of them left. Sold 101334 for 0.4166 BTC so far

Some users are reporting many orphaned block rewards being generated from Crop's latest wallet v1.1.0.4 which is usually a bad sign.  However, it seems odd that not all users seem to be getting those same results, so I'm not really sure what to think at this point.

Scammer at it again
Some more proof of CropDev being the same person as Bytpaydev

Same proposal to fix the coin. Swap to PIVX code

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180613/22nucacw.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180613/fdhyo7bf.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

Develop for the one to and apply the fix to both?
O yes use community members to develop.....

We all know Sergio was the man that made the tiers for crop so have a look at the below discussion a member sent me with Sergio

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180613/i3lee2sz.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
1 click Wallet..

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180613/aa9n4i7c.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
Proof of Sergio doing the development of the 1 click wallet that cropdev asked him first and then he did it for bytepay

And for the Cherry on the Cake
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180613/32knmyyt.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
Sergio never gave Bytepay his private email address...

Kindly back off CROP --   I'm running things -- many are hard at work making CROP successful.
CROP was the 1st with Tiered Master nodes.    CROP is on source code revision #4 -  CROP has a very active community and the only people being banned are those that continue to talk trash. 
So if you want to have a conversation, stop by.   If you want to cry scam,  stay out.


Mr Happy

Please explain how Bytepaydev and Cropcoindev used the same BTC address to pay for Bytepay CB listing.
Every time this is asked in your "fair" Discord you get banned or told anyone can fake that by the scammer dev.

While you at it explain the Sergio situation too.
O wait and why he was unable to provide his ID documents to get his coin listed on CE.

Only reason you are still trying stuff is because you are invested in this and the price is too low for you to break even....
Great if you want to do something good but do not involve the scammer in this and let him get some more money

Sad man, just hope no more people invest in it any more

Yes Mr Happy please explain why he got banned on both discords too?

Who find his New coin, write here please

So far, I can see for sure that supro is from the same outfit based on the MO:

Slick website ✅
Buzzword utility ✅
ONE SINGLE github commit of precompiled garbage ✅
Name of dev is COINdev/COIN ✅
Self Moderated Bitcointalk Thread full of Newbies pumping ✅

....bonus.....

being pumped in a discord thread of a dead coin ✅



yeah..... avoid supro like the plague

I think that LPC (LightPayCoin) is his new scam. he has improved on his previous versions and tried something different here but the developer talks just like him and the scammy behaviour and dumping from the developer seems very similar. If someone could investigate further would be great.

Cryptocurrencies communities are a BIG case of study for sociologists....

Its kindly like sects sometimes .... in social medias.

Funny how Cropcoindev and Bytepay dev both went missing for about a month and decided to come online again the same weekend in both Discords.
Then you get idiots like Mr Happy still saying they aren't the same person

Well started looking into this and so far it looks very fishy.
First off all both puredev and cropcoindev both came online in the different discord channels at almost the same time

In the Pure discord server this line popped up
http://fs5.directupload.net/images/180728/dz6uos93.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
Now as far as I know MR Happy does not have admin right in the pure server.
So only thing that can explain this is the scammer replied as puredev when he wanted to reply as cropcoindev

Then all of the sudden this happened in the cropcoin server.
MR Happy had his admin rights removed...
http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180728/quoma67m.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
MR Happy had his outburst and then a few minutes later all deleted from the crop chat and this lame excuse got used for it

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/180728/9yfxv72v.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)
This lame excuse was also removed later on

So far looks like this scammer is also heading up pure server

I was on both discords, When Cropcoindev came on I made the comment "Damn your good" He called me an asshole with too much time on my hands. Then told Mr. Happy to ban me. Back on Pure Discord Mr. Happy logged in and I said Welcome to the purex community. He asked me if I supported Purex, and I said Purex all the way! and he said he should not have banned me. Then Puredev jumped in with his comments. Soon after Mr. Happy was removed from his MOD role in Cropcoin discord.

Most of these conversations were erased :(


Only way Mr. Happy would have lost his position is if the dev is one in the same...

Cant mention anything about this on the discords they will ban you right away.

Now both you you are fudders.

lmao.

Purex, Bytepay, and Crop all have the same scam going. You gotta love crypto, lol.   

I do not understand is the project refers to what areas? I do not see the details of this project. Hope you'll make a new post with the most complete information about the project for investors to participate more. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D