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Accounts connected :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23   1 currency now - Full Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=450 Quantumplation - Sr. Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2933 just a man - Full Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2259 joeydangerous - Sr. Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15744 Visin - Sr. Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=21610 Jalum - Hero Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101432 stripykitteh - Legendary
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=114800 FiiNALiZE - Hero Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=136967 easynote - Hero Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=142423 jayc89 - Hero Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202910 Msile - Sr. Member - account was returned to owner
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=227359 AltcoinAuthority - Sr. Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=310121 strickland - Sr. Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=361824 HongKong - Hero Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=364469 Winner - Legendary
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372130 btcjoin14 - Hero Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=406762 HashieNewb - Sr. Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=664883 asdalani - Hero Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=666776 Gasotard - Full Member
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=783247 Usuadog - Member

Proofs:

https://etherscan.io/address/0xe956172a454c839f733d618b2c19f2c2ccc0c1d9#tokentxns
https://i.imgur.com/rHJNBfl.png
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https://etherscan.io/address/0xcf54a9d823d5e08992fcbddde1a2ffd4f8baf064#tokentxns
https://i.imgur.com/MjsN2mG.png

All wallets in Fixxo spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QFZopDg9Fzoh5CGcbP1aRs7VgdhSpoLsNX3wAj9Z_as/edit#gid=1210439592

https://i.imgur.com/WSHOrNV.png

I don't consider an external spreadsheet as valid proof. For example: anyone can enter my account with any address into one of those forms, but that doesn't make me an alt-account. You're probably right, but there is a chance someone is being framed. I've seen enough people join bounty campaigns with someone else's Bitcointalk account.

It's a signature campaign, and unless the bounty manager is in on this, they couldn't have received anything without actually wearing the signature (and/or avatar). Maybe they have also posted in the bounty thread; someone could take an extra look. However, this case seems pretty sound.

Yeah, someone unknown convinced all these accounts to wear a signature and registered with these wallets ...
Spreadsheet from this thread : [BOUNTY]Flixxo - Community-based video distribution - Sale 24 Oct (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2168764).

And some of they used same ETH in Fradindo signature campaign, there I was find this farm rig : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X6ay0cfiAeNUqz16bawVPnIIVUGRIWVad7jLa71DFnE/edit#gid=299234142

what can I say, multiaccounts are thriving on the forum and in bounty.  :( Honest users are deprived of payment. Although the project still pay one or 10 users. I hope the trust will be painted. Thank you for your work.
and now the signature campaign are the same, check it. At least 1 account everywhere take, but greed is stronger

I agree with you, this rudeness destroys the whole bounty theme, and in my opinion the forum's leadership is obliged to take this issue under control!

BeEvil, you are a good fellow untangled such a tangle!

This is a fucking ridiculous scheme here--I tagged all of these accounts, and I strongly suspect there's a person or group of people who bought a whole bunch of accounts just to do this.  Looking at when some of them registered, and seeing how they posted 5 years ago vs. today--there's no doubt in my mind that there were account sales going on. 

Nice work, OP.  I hate seeing abuse like this.  Drives me batty.

Hello, I'm one of the listed users. I'd like to say that my account was stolen back then and since then I've got it back. I never partcipated in that campaign myself. My account used to be a Hero member, look at the merit, but the account thief tried to delete all evidence by removing all my posts since somewhere in 2017, becoming a senior member again, I've been participating in a bounty campaign myself though and hope to be soon a hero member again, however now with the negative merit I feel like I've been duped double.

I'm not connected to that address.

Unfortunately the Pharmacist doesn't believe me, which isn't that hard to understand but I'm serious, he blocked my messages but can anyone message him this:


Okay I'll try to provide more proof, can you maybe think of something I could do. I'm really serious and I swear I'm not lying. Do you think I just typed that message asking my account back, I copied and pasted it rather quickly right.

I don't understand why you don't believe me if I copy pasted two things. How about this, this account once participated in the campaign that the multi accounts were partcipating in. Back then it was a senior member and in that period it made plenty of posts and became hero member (that's why I have 500 merit exactly). All those posts back then were deleted from my account. I know that's not proof that I didn't do it myself, but why would I delete my own posts from almost all of 2017 so that I'm not a hero member anymore?

What about the email, I recall there is a database that shows email changes.  Not much after I sent that message to this account, the email changed to the original, ************, before that it was something I wouldn't know.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=313016
You can ask owlcatz about me and the telegram discussion if you want slightlymore proof.


Please I beg of you, believe me or give me a chance to prove myself.

Another slighty evidence that my account was stolen.

My password was literally 6 characters, tien12, it's in the bitcointalk account database, how could it not have been stolen with such an easy password.

Funny how user "Winner" just sent me 20 merits out of the blue for one of my earliest posts from 2015.  He's in this farming ring.  Don't know what to make of it.

Does anyone know if other DT members can remove negative trust given by someone else? I think The Pharmacist blocked me without giving me a chance.

I do think it's good though that he negative trusts these people, they ruin bounty campaigns for everyone, but I swear I wasn't part of it.

If you look in my post history you see literally no posts in 2017,  it goes from 2016 to 2018, meanwhile this campaign was in 2017. The account thief removed around 200 comments from that period, causing me not to be a hero member anymore.

Can someone help me get justice? Can someone do a comment analysis to show that my comments are completely different from theirs or help me think of a way to prove myself?

When did you lose access, and when/how did you get it back?

Are you Dutch?

No, they can't. And trust isn't moderated.

You can imagine many tagged scammers start messaging him with sob stories.

I lost access somewhere in 2016 and gained it back last month, how I got it back is a strange story that no one would believe.

And yes I am Dutch.

Do tell!

Did you already delete all posts you didn't make?

Okay I'm going to tell it.

So I was aware that my account was stolen for a while, I didn't bother trying to get it back at first until I realized how profitable these bounty campaigns are. I found out that I had to have a privatekey of a bitcoin wallet posted on the account before. I couldn't find any bitcoin wallets on my account however I found some shitcoins, Kittehcoin for example. However the privatekey of that is on my old computer that I haven't used since 2015/2016 and it broke and I kept procrastinating to repair it.  

So I thought of an easier way, I'm just gonna ask my account back. I made a new account and messaged Msile (this account) literally this:



Want my account back
« Sent to: Msile on: March 08, 2018, 03:41:58 PM »
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Dear hacker/buyer of account

I'm the creator of this account(Msile) and still have the private keys to get this account back, however you're lucky that I've been too lazy to repair my computer.  I'm going to assume that you are a buyer of this account and not the hacker itself.  My account had a shitty password that was easily cracked after the 2015 database hack. I'd like to have my account back. I talked to a DT member/Moderator and they told me I could get it negative trust by making a post about it and I could get my account back as long as I have the privatekeys connected to my account, which I have on my old HDD.

Now since you're probably a buyer, I have no intention to fuck you over. I see you're doing a signature campaign and if you're willing to give my account back, you can still get the rewards for that one. If this gets ignored/rejected, I will be motivated to create a post to get Msile negative trust, most likely causing you to not get the reward. After that, I'd have to connect my HDD to get my wallets to get ownership back, which would revert the negative trust.

I hope you do not take this personal, I'd just gladly have my account back.

In case you want a proof if I am really the creator of the account then here is my email which I used to create the account: 4ryan42@gmail.com (which is still in the database). You can send the user info there.

Kind regards,
Creator and former owner of the account Msile



And surprisingly he actually gave it back, changed the email back and gave me a new weird password. If he didn't I'd have  probably gotten the motivation to get my HDD working though. The thief was just done with a bounty campaign and probably cared more about receiving the reward than about keeping the account with the chance of it getting negative trust. Before he gave it back though, he deleted all the posts HE had made, resulting in me not being a hero member anymore, then again, when I was hacked I was a senior member too.

Yeah I can understand, must be annoying. Just hope there is a way.

Very strange story but keeps up the facts. The Pharmacist is a serious and honest member. I think he will take your case into consideration if you provide hard proofs and that are the keys from the broken computer. Just repair and let him see that you are the real owner of this account. This will be even worth to pay only to extract the keys if there is no way to repair.

Wish you luck.

I don't think the problem is that he doesn't believe me to be the original owner. I can send emails from the original email to prove that now, (which was leaked in the database, 4ryan42@gmail.com) 

I think he wants prove that it wasn't me that participated with the other accuonts in that bounty campaign and I really think can't think of a way to prove that, but thanks for your help!

I should repair my broken computer regardless, it still has some other coins on it IIRC.

I assume you only used the new account to send that PM. Can you give me access to that temporary account, to verify the PM was really sent on March 8?

I'm not trying to steal your Newbie account, I'm trying to help you here. As much as I love catching cheaters, if you're really innocent you shouldn't be tagged red. If you take this offer, don't use a password on that account that you use anywhere else.

Note that it will still be up to The Pharmacist to remove your red trust (or not).

Yeah that sounds fine, it's actually a junior member (which was also required to message msile).

I really am innocent and I really thank you for the trouble even if it fails!!! I can also just forward it but let me change my password now.

@Op very nice catch , well done .

It seems there is more scams in this spreadsheet than it looks .

https://i.imgur.com/2hwVB7M.png

https://i.imgur.com/LaaajHA.png

In the above cases I think the first entry ( By date might be legit ) but the scammer uses the legit entry name and profile to claim extra entry with different ETH addresses .

We had this in my own campaign and I reported it to the manager we ended up caught 6 scammers might even all of them just one person . I dunno how many account got flagged but a lot . My user alone was register 4 times  :D every entry had between a week to 2 weeks gap something like that  .

How I think they do it .

They do it in long campaign only and they wait until the legit profile apply and got accepted then they reapply after 10 days 2 weeks or so to make sure manager would not catch it . They apply with same name and same profile but different ETH address . (Of curse the victim profile will be wearing signature because he is already in this campaign )

There is a lot of them in the above spreadsheet but I guess manager caught most of them just the one I screened not get caught I guess , since they are not flagged red .

Some time they even change a letter or 2 in the username , I think it is the new trending way to scam and farm campaign since Merit system limited there access to new accounts . I hope every and  all managers start to make the prove of post a must thing to apply and join a campaign .Because  This time scammers not even have to do work to get money they just make fake entry .

Sadly we can not even tag them red because they not even have there own account .

I'd be interested to see what the result of this is.

Thank you so much for being open to change your mind. Sorry if I spammed you, I was just very upset how the hacker fucked me over double and I can't stand it when I'm telling the truth and someone doesn't believe me.

Just stop the blabbering.  I'm not trying to give negs to people who don't deserve it, and frankly your English is much better than the average shitposter, so I wouldn't be chagrined if I had to remove my neg on you.  However, your story about how you reclaimed your account is fishy at best, the claim of "I got hacked" is hackneyed, your inability to sign a message is suspicious, and I'm still waiting for what LoyceV has to say and whether you sent that PM regarding your account.  

You got blocked from PMs because it was clear you'd keep spamming my inbox if I didn't.  And I'd much rather have people defend themselves out in the open than by PM.

I fully respect both your opinion and what you did here for Msile, so the feedback will be removed.  I apologize to Msile for the inconvenience.

I believe this to be true.

I can confirm this PM was sent to Msile on March 8, 2018. A reply 4 days later produced a password to account Msile.
This happened after the Token transactions in the OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3285504.msg34267668#msg34267668) that links the alt-accounts, and before The Pharmacist left red trust (on April 10, 2018).

It would be good if you can still sign a message from an old staked address. Not for the case of this red trust, but to prove you really are the original owner of account Msile. There could be a slim chance you've bluffed your way into an account hacker giving his account to you, but this is only speculation. I have no reason to think this is what happened.

The statement above seems consistent with the one below:
That makes November 9, 2016 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1439754.msg16820471#msg16820471) the last post before the hack, and March 13, 2018 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3116129.msg32213343#msg32213343) the first post after the hack. The 500 merit on a Sr. Member account without earned merit proves posts were deleted. "Msile" joined the Fixxo spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QFZopDg9Fzoh5CGcbP1aRs7VgdhSpoLsNX3wAj9Z_as/edit#gid=1210439592) on November 3, 2017.
The first days after regaining access to the account, Msile made a couple dozen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202910;sa=showPosts;start=100) low quality posts, partially in Spam Megathreads. It's obvious that was to gain activity and/or post count for a signature campaign, but that's not relevant to the case of your current red trust. It is something you could improve on though.

I haven't found any reason not to believe you.

No problem. It's something else than busting spammers for a change.

Please change the password again so I lose access to the account.

I don't often say this, but I think Msile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202910) shouldn't be red. I think I've confirmed enough of his statements to justify at least reasonable doubt. The rest is up to you.

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Msile case closed!

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@BeEvil: can you strike out Msile so he doesn't get more red later on? Like this:

Hmm actually that's exactly what Jamal did with MANY users. Off course the users who are getting into such campaigns have no idea that this can backfire in so many wrong ways. So I agree with LoyceV this isn't proof enough, but chances are you are right and these are idiots who would use the same wallet over & over again knowing full well that these are exposed publicly.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it!

I'm glad that you argued for your innocence. I fully agree with LoyceV conclusions and delete you from this cheater list.