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Title: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: JollyGood on April 09, 2018, 11:10:49 AM
For tokens related to incentives or ICOs which platform would you say is more suitable?

With ETH it is tokens, simple. With WAVES it is tokens along with multi-crypto payments, visa/mastercard payments and exchange trading platform.

Which in your view is better for both investors and businesses, specifically regarding trade and purchases?


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: Arvydas77 on April 09, 2018, 11:18:54 AM
I think both are good but if you take into account current prices, Waves IMO has more potential to grow to, let's say behind 10 dollars mark. Waves works as bridge between crypto and fiat world, it has DEX and many other user and business friendly features. However, Ethereum is much more robust platform for dapps.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: ManaMan on April 09, 2018, 11:59:27 AM
It really depends on for what purpose do you need your tokens. Because with ethereum you have many people that have built the infrastructure with many smart contracts and dapps and it might be better in a sense that you can find a lot more information, ask many more people for help etc.Although ETH has it's own decentralized exchanges which other people have built such as EtherDelta.

On waves it is much easier to deploy your tokens as you can do it with simple GUI and thus it makes it faster to deploy tokens. On the other side Waves might be cheaper. Waves might be better in a sense of volume, because there is only one DEX where most of the people trade, where as within ethereum you have different exchanges with different volumes.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: JollyGood on April 09, 2018, 12:49:49 PM
It really depends on for what purpose do you need your tokens. Because with ethereum you have many people that have built the infrastructure with many smart contracts and dapps and it might be better in a sense that you can find a lot more information, ask many more people for help etc.Although ETH has it's own decentralized exchanges which other people have built such as EtherDelta.

On waves it is much easier to deploy your tokens as you can do it with simple GUI and thus it makes it faster to deploy tokens. On the other side Waves might be cheaper. Waves might be better in a sense of volume, because there is only one DEX where most of the people trade, where as within ethereum you have different exchanges with different volumes.

You can create and launch tokens using WAVES and release them if soft/hard caps have been reached and buy those tokens using BTC, visa/mastercard, ETH, WAVES, LTC and maybe more. The exchange to trade is fairly straight forward too. No real technical know-how necessary, fairly easy to use and basic to create tokens. All you need to do it is have 1 WAV in your WAVES wallet (currently just $3.47)

It seems 99% of ICOs are using ETH contracts where ETH purchases ETH tokens but WAVES can do the same things by providing greater token purchase flexibilty with multi-crypto and visa/mastercard purchase.

I am trying to understand why ETH contracts are so popular and WAVES are not


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: chennan on April 09, 2018, 01:58:35 PM
It really depends on for what purpose do you need your tokens. Because with ethereum you have many people that have built the infrastructure with many smart contracts and dapps and it might be better in a sense that you can find a lot more information, ask many more people for help etc.Although ETH has it's own decentralized exchanges which other people have built such as EtherDelta.

On waves it is much easier to deploy your tokens as you can do it with simple GUI and thus it makes it faster to deploy tokens. On the other side Waves might be cheaper. Waves might be better in a sense of volume, because there is only one DEX where most of the people trade, where as within ethereum you have different exchanges with different volumes.

I completely agree, it's funny how people get so tied up on the price of something thinking that only the price and market movements of a coin justify its usefulness.  Have you ever tried to develop or use a dApp?  If not I would research how too first before I would put any money into it so you could see the use case yourself. ... If you yourself can't justify using it, what makes you think it would have any value to anyone else you personally know?
Edit: I think this is more suitable for altcoin discussion sections


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: JollyGood on April 09, 2018, 02:55:32 PM
It really depends on for what purpose do you need your tokens. Because with ethereum you have many people that have built the infrastructure with many smart contracts and dapps and it might be better in a sense that you can find a lot more information, ask many more people for help etc.Although ETH has it's own decentralized exchanges which other people have built such as EtherDelta.

On waves it is much easier to deploy your tokens as you can do it with simple GUI and thus it makes it faster to deploy tokens. On the other side Waves might be cheaper. Waves might be better in a sense of volume, because there is only one DEX where most of the people trade, where as within ethereum you have different exchanges with different volumes.

I completely agree, it's funny how people get so tied up on the price of something thinking that only the price and market movements of a coin justify its usefulness.  Have you ever tried to develop or use a dApp?  If not I would research how too first before I would put any money into it so you could see the use case yourself. ... If you yourself can't justify using it, what makes you think it would have any value to anyone else you personally know?
Edit: I think this is more suitable for altcoin discussion sections

Thanks for the reply. The Mods can move this thread if I opened it in the wrong place but thank you for highlighting it.

I never used dApp and never heard of it and I have no plans to have my own ICO or tokens.

I just wanted to ask for opinons on what it was that made most people choose ETH over WAV for tokens and ICOs


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: hermanjones18 on April 11, 2018, 11:39:29 AM
It is tough to specifically tell which one is good. I think both are good but if you consider the current situtation then you will find that wave has more possibility to grow in future.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: Pokemon Go on April 11, 2018, 11:41:35 AM
ethereum is the right choice if you want for long term investment, while waves for short term investment, but I prefer Ethereum.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: Coingram on April 11, 2018, 11:45:17 AM
Of course Ethereum, because its the 2nd one for capitalisation in crypto and I believe in ETH more than in Waves, but the Waves is promising coin anyway


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: zaratustraa on April 11, 2018, 11:52:23 AM
For tokens related to incentives or ICOs which platform would you say is more suitable?

With ETH it is tokens, simple. With WAVES it is tokens along with multi-crypto payments, visa/mastercard payments and exchange trading platform.

Which in your view is better for both investors and businesses, specifically regarding trade and purchases?
I think most people like ETHEREUM...
But I think I choose - WAVES! My choice is due to several of its advantages:
- it's easy to create your own token;
- You can take investments in fiat money directly;
- high transaction speed;
- availability of its decentralized exchange, where you can trade tokens immediately after their release;
- the absence of an obligatory need to add an investor's personal cabinet to the project site.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: Maveth13 on April 11, 2018, 12:10:21 PM
It really depends on for what purpose do you need your tokens. Because with ethereum you have many people that have built the infrastructure with many smart contracts and dapps and it might be better in a sense that you can find a lot more information, ask many more people for help etc.Although ETH has it's own decentralized exchanges which other people have built such as EtherDelta.

On waves it is much easier to deploy your tokens as you can do it with simple GUI and thus it makes it faster to deploy tokens. On the other side Waves might be cheaper. Waves might be better in a sense of volume, because there is only one DEX where most of the people trade, where as within ethereum you have different exchanges with different volumes.

I completely agree, it's funny how people get so tied up on the price of something thinking that only the price and market movements of a coin justify its usefulness.  Have you ever tried to develop or use a dApp?  If not I would research how too first before I would put any money into it so you could see the use case yourself. ... If you yourself can't justify using it, what makes you think it would have any value to anyone else you personally know?
Edit: I think this is more suitable for altcoin discussion sections

Thanks for the reply. The Mods can move this thread if I opened it in the wrong place but thank you for highlighting it.

I never used dApp and never heard of it and I have no plans to have my own ICO or tokens.

I just wanted to ask for opinons on what it was that made most people choose ETH over WAV for tokens and ICOs

Status is a big factor. With hundreds of ICOs using ethereum as their platform, it's been a default choice for other companies to use ethereum as well. And since it's more popular, there are more experts/developers that companies could hire for their project.

I think people also lost trust in waves when they found out 10 people actually owned 45-50% of the coins, there's also a single account that has 12% of the coins. Unlike in ethereum, the largest amount that a single address have is about 1.5% of the total coins.

Technologically though, they each have their fair amount of pros and cons.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: tsaroz on April 11, 2018, 12:14:36 PM
Ethereum is the pioneer and king of that sector so it would have a lead for at least a couple of decades.
As of Wave, being one of the older platforms, it has lost it's shot and newer options are much more usable and reliable than waves.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: Mr Batman on April 11, 2018, 12:15:31 PM
i think ethereum is still the best for now compared to waves.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: Igorpap2 on April 11, 2018, 12:24:54 PM
i think ethereum is still the best for now compared to waves.
I choose ETHEREUM.  8)
I think that the scam on the platform of WAVES is much more.
Not so long ago, I participated in two ISOs from Russia (Gizadevice and Credits), they turned out to be SCAM, and I lost money...
 After this I do not want to have any business with the Russians.  >:( >:(


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: rippar on April 11, 2018, 12:26:17 PM
For tokens related to incentives or ICOs which platform would you say is more suitable?

With ETH it is tokens, simple. With WAVES it is tokens along with multi-crypto payments, visa/mastercard payments and exchange trading platform.

Which in your view is better for both investors and businesses, specifically regarding trade and purchases?
Advantages & cons of Waves:
+fast and scalable blockchain
+you can simply create your own token
+decentralized exchange
-not so popular as ether
-no smart-contracts (will appear soon)

Advantages & cons of Ether:
+more popular
+strong team
+smart-contracts
-problems with scalability



Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: HPQ.IO on April 11, 2018, 12:33:14 PM
Very interesting question.
If the token is just an incentive or security (e.g. with buy-back) without any integration/dev. use, it is more the matter of convenience to BUY for investors.
But anyway it seems that even such ICO with token on ETH will have more backers just because they got used to ERC-20 tokens, right?
Got used to ERC-20 wallet, keeping such tokens, sending and receiving...

I wonder, how many % here will prefer WAVES token to ETH?


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: rippar on April 11, 2018, 12:33:39 PM
i think ethereum is still the best for now compared to waves.
I choose ETHEREUM.  8)
I think that the scam on the platform of WAVES is much more.
Not so long ago, I participated in two ISOs from Russia (Gizadevice and Credits), they turned out to be SCAM, and I lost money...
 After this I do not want to have any business with the Russians.  >:( >:(
You are not right, my friend. There are MUCH MORE scam projects on Ether blockchain! Also the developers of blockchain dont be responsible for those who use their blockchain... So maybe you are simply a russo-hater?


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: keycellko on April 11, 2018, 12:41:16 PM
I have to choose ethereum. Eth is mostly used in icos. Waves is sometimes used because its much easier to launch an ico under the waves platform. But among all my bounty campaigns, most if not all are launched under the eth platform.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: Cryptokingind on April 11, 2018, 12:54:25 PM
Both the coin are good but I suggest you to go with Ethereum Because it have a solid platform and it have more potential to rise . At this time Ethereum price is very down and i think this is the best time to invest in Ethereum, It will gives you Good returns for long term holding.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: judaspriest on April 11, 2018, 01:03:58 PM


for now i prefer ethereum rather than waves. the problem is, ethereum is more famous and used a lot of ico as a temporary wallet.
well if waves have a smart contract like ethereum. the possibility of waves can quickly compete with ethereum.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: khufuking on April 11, 2018, 01:39:53 PM
In term of investment it is really hard to tell but I will go with Ethereum specially with POS is close and  right at the corner .

Now about the question why Ethereum have more than 90% of ICO ?

I used Waves and Ethereum and for some reason I found out that Ethereum is more UI friendly and more appealing maybe that is why most project use Ethereum because it is not about project and what they  think is better platform it is about which will bring more investor to them , And the answer is so clear Ethereum . I saw couple of projects build on waves and they just changed to Ethereum after couple of of weeks from there ICo running , For me when I see waves on the Ann thread title I just pass this project , And I dunno why I am just not feel comfortable  using waves platform it feels laggy .


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: JollyGood on April 11, 2018, 02:43:58 PM


for now i prefer ethereum rather than waves. the problem is, ethereum is more famous and used a lot of ico as a temporary wallet.
well if waves have a smart contract like ethereum. the possibility of waves can quickly compete with ethereum.

The Ethereum being famous part is not going to affect the ICO structure. There has to be a reason why more people choose ETH or WAVES


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: hermanjones18 on April 12, 2018, 11:19:40 AM
It is tough to specifically tell which one is good. I think both are good but if you consider the current situtation then you will find that wave has more possibility to grow in future.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: JollyGood on April 12, 2018, 12:18:34 PM
It is tough to specifically tell which one is good. I think both are good but if you consider the current situtation then you will find that wave has more possibility to grow in future.

Thank you. Please explain why you think WAVES has more potential to grow in future.

If that same opinion was shared by many others then token creation (with or without ICOs) using WAVES would be significantly higher


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: JollyGood on April 12, 2018, 04:21:02 PM
In term of investment it is really hard to tell but I will go with Ethereum specially with POS is close and  right at the corner .

Now about the question why Ethereum have more than 90% of ICO ?

I used Waves and Ethereum and for some reason I found out that Ethereum is more UI friendly and more appealing maybe that is why most project use Ethereum because it is not about project and what they  think is better platform it is about which will bring more investor to them , And the answer is so clear Ethereum . I saw couple of projects build on waves and they just changed to Ethereum after couple of of weeks from there ICo running , For me when I see waves on the Ann thread title I just pass this project , And I dunno why I am just not feel comfortable  using waves platform it feels laggy .

Thank you for your input. The difference in UI certainly is something mentioned by several people. I have to say WAVES did not seem to lag at all when I used it and the UI is fairly modern, user friendly and seems better to use than say myetherwallet. If the functionality or aim of a user is to create a token then ETH wins by sheer numbers but I still have not been to understand why so few people use WAVES.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: ModaFuka1994 on April 12, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Both of these cryptocurrencies are good and both of these platform are suitable as well. I don't know how other member think but I think I prefer use ETH platform to WAVES platfrom. I feel ETH platform is much easier to use than WAVES and the number of token base on ETH blockchain is much bigger than WAVES so I think I like ETH than WAVES.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: 9tails on April 12, 2018, 04:31:33 PM
I prefer ethereum, Ethereum Blockchain nowadays has many investors and  ICO's Projects who support ethereum.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: Kolona on April 12, 2018, 04:34:52 PM
I would prefer the Etherium, because in the meantime - this is the best platform for working and implementing transactions. The speed is good, it works stably.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: nytstalker on April 12, 2018, 04:37:20 PM
I prefer with ethereum because of the growing community and ethereum has a potential compitetor of bitcoin.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: MOProgress on April 12, 2018, 04:38:29 PM
For tokens related to incentives or ICOs which platform would you say is more suitable?

With ETH it is tokens, simple. With WAVES it is tokens along with multi-crypto payments, visa/mastercard payments and exchange trading platform.

Which in your view is better for both investors and businesses, specifically regarding trade and purchases?

I think Ethereum platform is more suitable compare to wave. It is also easier to get on exchange especially decentralised exchanges.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: ichsan ardi on April 12, 2018, 04:38:47 PM
For tokens related to incentives or ICOs which platform would you say is more suitable?

With ETH it is tokens, simple. With WAVES it is tokens along with multi-crypto payments, visa/mastercard payments and exchange trading platform.

Which in your view is better for both investors and businesses, specifically regarding trade and purchases?

this two altcoin have a good development so far, but for regarding trade and purchase i choose ETH.


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: arthurbonora on April 12, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
i think that waves is a more dinamic plataform, but ethereum is more confiable and  have investor preference


Title: Re: WAVES vs ETHEREUM
Post by: JollyGood on April 12, 2018, 04:42:24 PM
I would prefer the Etherium, because in the meantime - this is the best platform for working and implementing transactions. The speed is good, it works stably.

Thank you for mentioning speed and stability as reasons to choose ETH over WAVES. I hope others can wade in to this and give their opinons too.