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Title: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 11, 2018, 02:57:48 PM Hello everybody.
I know bitcointalk for a long time, however, i became it`s member not so long ago. I know about the previous rank system and the only thing i can say about it, that it was extremely easy to use. And i definetely support the new "merit system", that`s gonna exclude the easy ranking and multiaccounting in perspective. However, there are some moments, that i find not very fair, and some offers for improving this system. About unfair moments. As i understand, merit system is called up to decrease the multiaccounting and increase the quality of the posts. So people now should somehow confirm their originality and competence. But why do you think, that the old forum member are all able to do this? I know, that it was possible to buy even hero member. Full and senior are not a big deal at all. And i see a lot of such highrank members that write posts just to fulfill the requirements for the signature, all messages are empty and doesnt have any meaning. So, i think, that at least the old fullmembers should not got the merits according to their activity, so that they start from the begining and earn merits for their quality posts. But that`s in the past, and now it would be unfair in relation to them. About imrovement. I think, that sMerits should be distributed to member rank, and maybe jr members, but in a lower quantity, 20 and 10, or 16 and 8 in a month accordingly. I`ll explain why. I saw a bunch of topics that were very informative, especially for those who are new on the forum or in the cryptotrading. And what do we get? We get the following: old and experienced members dont find these topics informative or interesting, because they already know the most things that were told in them. But for newbies (not rank) these topics are the real treasure. Without this, i see the sad painting, where new forum members reaps their buts making the really good topics and dont get anything for it. And on the other side: high ranked members just live in their own world of the members with the same high rank and dont give a thing about any other people. Thats not a bad phenomenon, because these two groups just have different levels of interests and knowledge. But for the new members there it`s quite impossible to get what they really deserve at the moment. Thank you for attention. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: TMAN on April 11, 2018, 03:01:55 PM bla bla bla Here is the trick, if you want to give out merits then you need to improve your English, then in turn you will be recognized for your own quality posts and as part of being recognized you will have your own sMerits to hand out. Its pretty simple if you think about it, step up your game then you can encourage others by handing out merits.. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Slava79 on April 11, 2018, 03:13:21 PM If you agree and find it useful, you can share merit for me. Look, I found a merit beggar! Share merit with me instead. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Juggy777 on April 11, 2018, 03:13:42 PM Hello everybody. Thank you for attention. If you agree and find it useful, you can share merit for me. In the end beg for a merit? Why aren't you confident in your skills, or alternatively instead of writing a paragraph for a merit look for merit giveaways and post your links there. I know one you can post is Bill Gator but do not pm him lol. Guys long posts and asking for merits is cliche, believe in yourself and post for good, helpful or related not for merit! Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 11, 2018, 03:18:28 PM bla bla bla Here is the trick, if you want to give out merits then you need to improve your English, then in turn you will be recognized for your own quality posts and as part of being recognized you will have your own sMerits to hand out. Its pretty simple if you think about it, step up your game then you can encourage others by handing out merits.. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 11, 2018, 03:21:11 PM Hello everybody. Thank you for attention. If you agree and find it useful, you can share merit for me. In the end beg for a merit? Why aren't you confident in your skills, or alternatively instead of writing a paragraph for a merit look for merit giveaways and post your links there. I know one you can post is Bill Gator but do not pm him lol. Guys long posts and asking for merits is cliche, believe in yourself and post for good, helpful or related not for merit! Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Sivainvest on April 11, 2018, 03:23:11 PM Hello everybody. I know bitcointalk for a long time, however, i became it`s member not so long ago. I know about the previous rank system and the only thing i can say about it, that it was extremely easy to use. And i definetely support the new "merit system", that`s gonna exclude the easy ranking and multiaccounting in perspective. However, there are some moments, that i find not very fair, and some offers for improving this system. About unfair moments. As i understand, merit system is called up to decrease the multiaccounting and increase the quality of the posts. So people now should somehow confirm their originality and competence. But why do you think, that the old forum member are all able to do this? I know, that it was possible to buy even hero member. Full and senior are not a big deal at all. And i see a lot of such highrank members that write posts just to fulfill the requirements for the signature, all messages are empty and doesnt have any meaning. So, i think, that at least the old fullmembers should not got the merits according to their activity, so that they start from the begining and earn merits for their quality posts. But that`s in the past, and now it would be unfair in relation to them. About imrovement. I think, that sMerits should be distributed to member rank, and maybe jr members, but in a lower quantity, 20 and 10, or 16 and 8 in a month accordingly. I`ll explain why. I saw a bunch of topics that were very informative, especially for those who are new on the forum or in the cryptotrading. And what do we get? We get the following: old and experienced members dont find these topics informative or interesting, because they already know the most things that were told in them. But for newbies (not rank) these topics are the real treasure. Without this, i see the sad painting, where new forum members reaps their buts making the really good topics and dont get anything for it. And on the other side: high ranked members just live in their own world of the members with the same high rank and dont give a thing about any other people. Thats not a bad phenomenon, because these two groups just have different levels of interests and knowledge. But for the new members there it`s quite impossible to get what they really deserve at the moment. Thank you for attention. If you agree and find it useful, you can share merit for me. I would share Merit if I had but sorry, I entered forum 2 months later than it was needed. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Jet Cash on April 11, 2018, 03:23:42 PM If you agree and find it useful, you can share merit for me. Look, I found a merit beggar! Share merit with me instead. I put him on ignore for that. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Sivainvest on April 11, 2018, 03:24:57 PM If you agree and find it useful, you can share merit for me. Look, I found a merit beggar! Share merit with me instead. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Silent26 on April 11, 2018, 03:28:16 PM I saw a bunch of topics that were very informative, especially for those who are new on the forum or in the cryptotrading. And what do we get? We get the following: old and experienced members dont find these topics informative or interesting, because they already know the most things that were told in them. But for newbies (not rank) these topics are the real treasure. I believed this part is true. Yes, you are a right OP. I still believed that there are some posts out there made by newbies where it is very informative. But like what you said, high rank members don't find it interesting which is also true.Let me tell you something, actually yeah some high rank members are sometimes (or often) not interested in topics made by Newbies, it is maybe because they already know what the topics discussed all about or they're not really interested. But actually, it doesn't matter if high rank members are not interested in a particular topic you made. It doesn't matter if you're post didn't even receive a single Merit although its a perfect symmetry. The most important thing is, you create a informative thread/posts to helps and educate your fellow newbies/beginners. Don't count how many constructive and informative posts you have made, instead, count those Members that you can be able to help. Sharing knowledge is the most important thing, even when Merit System is not yet implemented. I'm sorry if I'm a little bit off topic but I hope you get what I'm trying to say. Quote Without that, i see the sad painting, where new forum members reaps their buts making the really good topics and dont get anything for it. And on the other side: high ranked members just live in their own world of the same rank members and dont give a thing about any other people. If you agree and find it useful, you can share merit for me. This made you a Merit beggar :(Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Slava79 on April 11, 2018, 03:34:30 PM I would share Merit if I had but sorry, I entered forum 2 months later than it was needed. But, your rank, when you reach it, will be sort of more deserved then these joined before. Because before that you could just just post anything (like "What a great idea", "I agree with you") for the whole day and thats it, you get you rank when you posted " :) " enough times. :) Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: TRIPLEVODKA on April 11, 2018, 03:36:51 PM Please stop to beg merits! For the first, show what you can do for this forum and the community here, if you are useful in this forum your post useful and have enough quality, another members will give you merits without ask for it. So don't waste your time to make thread like this or this will be endanger your account.
Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Silent26 on April 11, 2018, 03:40:15 PM I would share Merit if I had but sorry, I entered forum 2 months later than it was needed. But, your rank, when you reach it, will be sort of more deserved then these joined before. Because before that you could just just post anything (like "What a great idea", "I agree with you") for the whole day and thats it, you get you rank when you posted " :) " enough times. :) Posting such Quote "What a great idea", "I agree with you" just to rank up is WRONG. It has no difference from spamming the thread. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: OgNasty on April 11, 2018, 03:47:28 PM If you want merit, you should try and help people with their questions and problems. A long well thought out opinion piece is unlikely to earn you merit as opinions exist everywhere.
Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: athanz88 on April 11, 2018, 03:50:21 PM ~snip~ If you agree and find it useful, you can share merit for me. Found another one topic that has Jet Cash on it and he already ignored the OP for making this kind of topic about merit. We need some kind of magic if we want to stop this kind of topic made by people. They can use the merit thread by Theymos instead of making this new one. Lets talk about your suggestion. You said that up to member rank should get merit per month basis. So up till Full Member is about 4.5 month, so if you put 20 per month, you will get 80 merit and only needs 20 merit more to be full member? Come on man, that is almost the same like old system, an automatic point. That system will (still) make a lot of alt account farmers. So, no for your suggestion, and that last part make it worse. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 11, 2018, 03:52:42 PM just for statistic.
http://prntscr.com/j3vp1b this is the maximum the good topic can get. (P.s. some of them are merit roulets, and other are just giveaways and some for the satoshi and admins) LOL http://prntscr.com/j3vpf9 and this is how much can the user get for a long time (and again admins, roulets organizators and etc) even so, it`s barely enough for hero member, however, the different between theymos and other guy is enormous. and you dare to say smth about good topics that definetely will be nicely merited Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 11, 2018, 03:54:08 PM If you want merit, you should try and help people with their questions and problems. A long well thought out opinion piece is unlikely to earn you merit as opinions exist everywhere. why do you think i dont do this? are you Vanga and thats why you talk so confident?Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Slava79 on April 11, 2018, 04:01:29 PM I can't barely understand you because of your broken English grammars. But I think you are giving a wrong advice to Sivainvest ??? Posting such Quote "What a great idea", "I agree with you" just to rank up is WRONG. It has no difference from spamming the thread. Thank you for your opinion and correction, I appreciate it. In the case my english is too broken, I will state it clear (I'll try at least) - I meant the opposite - to not post such things. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 11, 2018, 04:03:17 PM If you want merit, you should try and help people with their questions and problems. A long well thought out opinion piece is unlikely to earn you merit as opinions exist everywhere. lets try this: i`ll write the usefull topic, that will help many people, and you will give me all your smerits. how do we know that the topic is useful? it will be useful because this topic will be about some important moments in trading that helped me to stop losing money and get stabe profit. these advices helped me, and as i`m just a human like many others, they will help them too.Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Sova_tmb on April 11, 2018, 04:26:12 PM If you want merit, you should try and help people with their questions and problems. A long well thought out opinion piece is unlikely to earn you merit as opinions exist everywhere. lets try this: i`ll write the usefull topic, that will help many people, and you will give me all your smerits. how do we know that the topic is useful? it will be useful because this topic will be about some important moments in trading that helped me to stop losing money and get stabe profit. these advices helped me, and as i`m just a human like many others, they will help them too.if you gave a good advise or decide a problem and member share to you merit its good , but to write a post for merit it dont good. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: OgNasty on April 11, 2018, 04:30:57 PM If you want merit, you should try and help people with their questions and problems. A long well thought out opinion piece is unlikely to earn you merit as opinions exist everywhere. lets try this: i`ll write the usefull topic, that will help many people, and you will give me all your smerits. how do we know that the topic is useful? it will be useful because this topic will be about some important moments in trading that helped me to stop losing money and get stabe profit. these advices helped me, and as i`m just a human like many others, they will help them too.How about instead of another thread aimed at earning you merit for your opinion, you actually find someone with a thread that needs help and provide them assistance like I am doing for you now? Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: humantraffic on April 11, 2018, 04:43:51 PM I understand you. The only one thing that I would change in the system is a decrease in activity (-14) per 4 weeks (14*2) provided that the account did not send at least 1 merit. Provided that this account has 10+ merits. I saw the accounts of high ranks that during the time of the work of the new system many times they did not give their merit to anyone. It would force the dead merit to move.
Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: atomous on April 11, 2018, 05:34:55 PM In my observations this forum is not all by myself anymore. Because of merit everyone is connected and no man is an island here. While merit is alive we are all partners. However, the disunity take place because of so called misunderstanding. The division between the members like and dislike merit is due to misbehavior of others or self criticism that leads to judgemental.
If you really believe of merit improvement then you must be careful of your ideas to write it down to avoid unnecessary words. Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: 1993jochico on April 11, 2018, 06:41:19 PM I read all of the reply and no one notice that this guy is a possible merit abuser and he's just one of those who really just want complain about merit system.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1684585 That kind of merits are obviously fake maybe from friends or alts but anyway Im tired now so I will skip to add him on my reports list. For the OP, I have a suggestion to you, how about making a thread about "Forum Users Improvement" because I think there is really nothing wrong about the system but there are more wrongs about some members like you. I really dont want to be rude but you are creating a topic that dont fit to your account because you are one of those merit abuser. By the way for sure if a DT member will see this/my reply there is a possibility for you to get tagged or get a warning. I hope you will not regret that you posted this topic Goodluck! Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: mrsbee on April 12, 2018, 01:14:26 AM in the first place I thougt you are concern with the new members but in the end you begging for merit? If you want merit earn it with your own by answering peolple with their question and problem,I'am a jr member and merit but trying my best to earn merit
Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 12, 2018, 02:59:25 AM If you want merit, you should try and help people with their questions and problems. A long well thought out opinion piece is unlikely to earn you merit as opinions exist everywhere. lets try this: i`ll write the usefull topic, that will help many people, and you will give me all your smerits. how do we know that the topic is useful? it will be useful because this topic will be about some important moments in trading that helped me to stop losing money and get stabe profit. these advices helped me, and as i`m just a human like many others, they will help them too.How about instead of another thread aimed at earning you merit for your opinion, you actually find someone with a thread that needs help and provide them assistance like I am doing for you now? Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 12, 2018, 03:06:51 AM I read all of the reply and no one notice that this guy is a possible merit abuser and he's just one of those who really just want complain about merit system. i got my low number of merits for a few good topics and replies. and you`d better watch yourself, because your merits dont look good at all. and all your topics are about merit system, but you insist that you dodnt complain LOL. shi**y hypocrithttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1684585 That kind of merits are obviously fake maybe from friends or alts but anyway Im tired now so I will skip to add him on my reports list. For the OP, I have a suggestion to you, how about making a thread about "Forum Users Improvement" because I think there is really nothing wrong about the system but there are more wrongs about some members like you. I really dont want to be rude but you are creating a topic that dont fit to your account because you are one of those merit abuser. By the way for sure if a DT member will see this/my reply there is a possibility for you to get tagged or get a warning. I hope you will not regret that you posted this topic Goodluck! Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: Dima95 on April 12, 2018, 03:09:51 AM deleted the last part cause you turned up awfully agressive
Title: Re: Merit system improvement Post by: 1993jochico on April 12, 2018, 06:44:05 AM Look at what Ive found, smell something fishy here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1684585 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1203429 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=245653 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1603996 It seems like you have your own merit circulation, be careful on what you post, you dont even get a merit from english threads. I can see that you are just making a BLOCK of threads and then merit yourself, those profile above has merit circle I know that you know what I mean dont act innocent. i got my low number of merits for a few good topics and replies. and you`d better watch yourself, because your merits dont look good at all. and all your topics are about merit system, but you insist that you dodnt complain LOL. shi**y hypocrit "At least my merit came from legit users" and I dont mind them by the way. |