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Title: Internet privacy bill
Post by: lemonginger on August 02, 2011, 12:00:51 AM
Passes out of committee.

Think of the Children!

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/

http://techland.time.com/2011/08/01/house-approves-data-mongering-isp-snooping-bill-and-what-that-means-for-you/

Those "small-government conservatives", always looking out for your best interests.....(to be fair, I recognize that most conservatives in this forum don't see the Republican Party as being legitimately conservative. But some do.)

(Seriously, this is a scary fucked up bill.)


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: GideonGono on August 02, 2011, 05:42:16 PM
Aren't you glad there are VPN companies that accept BTC  :D


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: Babylon on August 04, 2011, 05:38:58 PM
According to one of these articles this has already passed the house, according to the other it has not yet.  Do you know which is the case?


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: lemonginger on August 04, 2011, 06:57:34 PM
It has not passed the house, it has passed out of committee though.

Still fairly far away from becoming a law, but could get fast tracked and attached to "must pass" legislation at any time, just like the UIGEA did

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1981


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: JBDive on August 05, 2011, 04:23:11 AM
At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: Fakeman on August 05, 2011, 01:31:28 PM
Unfortunately there is no reason to really expect much privacy on the internet (or talking on a phone) anyway. Meanwhile, the bad guys who are not idiots are likely just using other people's internet connections to do their dirty deeds.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: RodeoX on August 05, 2011, 01:39:21 PM
For those interested in securing your privacy on the Internet... The time to act was in the early 1990's.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: Babylon on August 05, 2011, 04:36:28 PM
At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...

When?  back during the Civil War?


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: Fakeman on August 05, 2011, 05:20:54 PM
For those interested in securing your privacy on the Internet... The time to act was in the early 1990's.
While you have the time machine warmed up you may as well go back to 2001 too and thwart the hijackers.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: Babylon on August 05, 2011, 05:23:17 PM
The issue, for me, is not privacy.  I understand that the government is filtering pretty much all internet traffic.  My issue is with storing info in fairly unsecure areas.  I don't want my credit card number being held by my ISP where Lulzsec can get at it much more easily.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: JBDive on August 06, 2011, 12:08:07 AM
The issue, for me, is not privacy.  I understand that the government is filtering pretty much all internet traffic.  My issue is with storing info in fairly unsecure areas.  I don't want my credit card number being held by my ISP where Lulzsec can get at it much more easily.

Screw Lulzsec getting it look directly at your ISP and their minimum wage employees. Story after story of employees accessing and using private data stored my ISPs, cell providers to banks. Second off I am willing to bet that although it's not in the bill there is some immunity somewhere that says if the ISP lost your data that was required to be stored by the FEDS you can't sue them.

Time for everyone to start moving back to cash, cash to prepaid debt, using various mail drops that you change yearly, closing and re-opening what bank accounts you do have yearly, etc, etc, all to avoid having live data stored by these folks.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: The Script on August 17, 2011, 08:01:40 AM
For those interested in securing your privacy on the Internet... The time to act was in the early 1990's.

When I was 10 years old? 


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: hugolp on August 17, 2011, 08:08:16 AM
Passes out of committee.

Think of the Children!

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/

http://techland.time.com/2011/08/01/house-approves-data-mongering-isp-snooping-bill-and-what-that-means-for-you/

Those "small-government conservatives", always looking out for your best interests.....(to be fair, I recognize that most conservatives in this forum don't see the Republican Party as being legitimately conservative. But some do.)

(Seriously, this is a scary fucked up bill.)

Its only "logical" since they already spy the phone calls...

Here in Europe they are trying to pass very similar laws. Its very sad.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: RodeoX on August 17, 2011, 04:45:25 PM
For those interested in securing your privacy on the Internet... The time to act was in the early 1990's.

When I was 10 years old? 
lol No, you get a pass.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: JBDive on August 17, 2011, 05:40:19 PM
At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...

That's what gets me the most. Look at Michelle Bachmann, Tea Party Head in Congress. How can you be for smaller Gov't, a limited Gov't and then support The Patriot Act? Of course this Bill with the whole protect the kids meme will get votes because nobody in D.C. will want to be seen as being against protecting the children. Thankfully some big business is against this so they will put their money were their mouth is and tone the bill down or get it sent back.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: hugolp on August 17, 2011, 05:58:36 PM
At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...

That's what gets me the most. Look at Michelle Bachmann, Tea Party Head in Congress. How can you be for smaller Gov't, a limited Gov't and then support The Patriot Act? Of course this Bill with the whole protect the kids meme will get votes because nobody in D.C. will want to be seen as being against protecting the children. Thankfully some big business is against this so they will put their money were their mouth is and tone the bill down or get it sent back.

Come on, saying that the republicans are for small government is like saying democrats care for the people. Since when a republican president has decreased the size of government? Ronald Reagan, "the last republican hero", raised taxes, created the department of education, increased the debt, etc... Republicans are a joke.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: JBDive on August 17, 2011, 09:47:40 PM
At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...

That's what gets me the most. Look at Michelle Bachmann, Tea Party Head in Congress. How can you be for smaller Gov't, a limited Gov't and then support The Patriot Act? Of course this Bill with the whole protect the kids meme will get votes because nobody in D.C. will want to be seen as being against protecting the children. Thankfully some big business is against this so they will put their money were their mouth is and tone the bill down or get it sent back.

Come on, saying that the republicans are for small government is like saying democrats care for the people. Since when a republican president has decreased the size of government? Ronald Reagan, "the last republican hero", raised taxes, created the department of education, increased the debt, etc... Republicans are a joke.

I did not say that republicans are for smaller Gov't. I said the Tea Party standard is smaller Gov't, limited Gov't and Bachmann who is a Republican that says she is head of the Tea Party Caucus also supports The Patriot Act. Are most Tea Party members Republican, yes, are all Republicans Tea Party members no. Bachmann however is, or says she is, so you have a Republican, Tea Party member who supports letting the FBI sneak into your home, bug your phone lines, copy your papers yet never file a single charge or get a "real" judge to ok the whole thing.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: profitgenerator212 on April 05, 2017, 07:53:45 AM
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Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: darkseid1199 on April 05, 2017, 11:58:48 AM
In this modern era, we have two choices, either you give up your privacy so that the government protects you from danger or you get your privacy and you may die from a terrorist attack. All this because of the war on terrorism.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: gabmen on April 05, 2017, 01:32:17 PM
In this modern era, we have two choices, either you give up your privacy so that the government protects you from danger or you get your privacy and you may die from a terrorist attack. All this because of the war on terrorism.

I don't really think you can hide anything from the government especially atbthis digital age. They pretty much have access to all data bases and through social media where we as users most of the time put up more information than what we're supposed to


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: JGoRed on April 05, 2017, 09:26:08 PM
Passes out of committee.

Think of the Children!

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/

http://techland.time.com/2011/08/01/house-approves-data-mongering-isp-snooping-bill-and-what-that-means-for-you/

Those "small-government conservatives", always looking out for your best interests.....(to be fair, I recognize that most conservatives in this forum don't see the Republican Party as being legitimately conservative. But some do.)

(Seriously, this is a scary fucked up bill.)
As scary as it my sound just about any other company could already sell your browsing habits, so why does it really matter if you add another one? Google and Facebook are 2 good examples, as they sell your every move already.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: Mometaskers on April 06, 2017, 02:57:07 AM
I know this is disturbing but this seem to be the natural progression of things. Even without the War on Terror as an excuse, I expect government would try snooping on its citizens. Government is all about control and information is vital for that. I wonder what we can do about it. I mean, even people who don't do anything illegal online would want to escape Big Brother just because they feel that their right to privacy is being violated

In this modern era, we have two choices, either you give up your privacy so that the government protects you from danger or you get your privacy and you may die from a terrorist attack. All this because of the war on terrorism.

I don't really think you can hide anything from the government especially atbthis digital age. They pretty much have access to all data bases and through social media where we as users most of the time put up more information than what we're supposed to

Ugh that's worse. Surveillance scare the shit out of people and yet they willingly give up personal information to social sites and apps like FB who then make money out of their stored information and preferences.


Title: Re: Internet privacy bill
Post by: RJX on April 07, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
We need Casper Bowden more than ever today.

Are there still titans out there able to turn the tide, continuing his work?

If not we are all doomed.

DOOMED!