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Title: Blackarrow Software Legit or Scam?
Post by: bluemystic on November 19, 2013, 12:33:22 PM
Can anyone shed some light on this company? are they legit or what


Title: Re: Blackarrow Software Legit or Scam?
Post by: Gator-hex on November 19, 2013, 01:00:21 PM
Already asked if you use the search box an enter "Black Arrow" you'll find..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313049.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316214.0

They have a history of reselling other peoples boards/chips but not of creating their own.
Lots of delays can crop up when making your own chip, BFL took nearly a year!
And it might not perform to the spec you promised. Theoretical speed != real world speed.


Title: Re: Blackarrow Software Legit or Scam?
Post by: thomas_s on November 19, 2013, 02:47:39 PM
Already asked if you use the search box an enter "Black Arrow" you'll find..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313049.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316214.0

They have a history of reselling other peoples boards/chips but not of creating their own.
Can you explain using their boards in these?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328996.0


Title: Re: Blackarrow Software Legit or Scam?
Post by: Gator-hex on November 19, 2013, 10:02:33 PM
Already asked if you use the search box an enter "Black Arrow" you'll find..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313049.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316214.0

They have a history of reselling other peoples boards/chips but not of creating their own.
Can you explain using their boards in these?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328996.0

Quote
"I guess BitFury boards really are hard to keep running reliably."

Not sure what you want explaining but they are 3rd party 55nm BitFury chip boards, not their own 28nm Minion ASIC.



Title: Re: Blackarrow Software Legit or Scam?
Post by: DyslexicZombei on November 19, 2013, 11:46:05 PM
Already asked if you use the search box an enter "Black Arrow" you'll find..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313049.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316214.0

They have a history of reselling other peoples boards/chips but not of creating their own.
Can you explain using their boards in these?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=328996.0

Quote
"I guess BitFury boards really are hard to keep running reliably."

Not sure what you want explaining but they are 3rd party 55nm BitFury chip boards, not their own 28nm Minion ASIC.



Hi Gator-hex,

I assisted in the launch of the BA Bullet Run and our co-op holds the rights to the exclusive Group Buy for x-3 Prospero GBs in February. They're not 3rd party boards - its a nearly complete test of the new BA Prospero design being launched in late February.

This allowed them to do a limited size test of their entire design and assembly process sans the Minion chip, while working with bobsag3 to troubleshoot problems and iron out issues (it also allowed our co-op members access to Bullet Run Prosperos 3-4 months ahead of the full launch).

The main difference is that this Bullet Run that's currently hashing uses 55nm Bitfury chips, while the February Prosperos will be using their own 28nm Minion ASIC. Everything I've seen/heard so far is that they still appear to be on track for a late February launch of their Minion Prosperos (in fact, absolutely no promises and don't hold this as holy gospel, but I understand that this is a conservative target date; as there's been too much over promising and underdelivery in this industry, as a whole).