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Title: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: Philj on August 03, 2011, 12:43:02 PM
Got an email from Dwolla saying that they now require a photo ID in order to continue bank transfers. Looks like they are trying to beef up security a bit but changing the rules mid stream sucks. This makes Paxum seem like a better option since they at least tell you up front rather than after you have a few hundred dollars sitting in account in limbo until you send in an ID.


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: BitcoinPorn on August 03, 2011, 01:33:22 PM
Paxum was always better.

Glad to see Dwolla stepping it up.

In related news, just this morning, Paypal opened up an account I had left years ago. In fact, created a new one which caused them to find the old one.  Now I have two good Paypal accounts :)

Anyone want to buy Bitcoin using Paypal? lulz


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: dub0matic on August 03, 2011, 01:36:40 PM
interesting now dwolla's website is down


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 03, 2011, 01:56:59 PM
interesting now dwolla's website is down

Reported as a routing issue with their host:
 - http://www.dwolla.org/blog/dwolla-com-access/


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: deepceleron on August 03, 2011, 06:01:38 PM
Paxum was always better.

Glad to see Dwolla stepping it up.

In related news, just this morning, Paypal opened up an account I had left years ago. In fact, created a new one which caused them to find the old one.  Now I have two good Paypal accounts :)

Anyone want to buy Bitcoin using Paypal? lulz

I say more like:

How dare Dwolla randomly lock accounts and funds, and then demand more information that they never suggested was required. This is ripping a page from the PayPal playbook. Next they will start randomly locking accounts and then demanding proof that you shipped an item or demand invoices and business licenses and SSN cards to see how much money they can keep? Maybe they can pull money back out of your account with no notification, while revising their web page and rewriting history where they stated that wouldn't happen. Oh, they already do that. Changing the terms I agreed to, terms that had no provision for change in them? Already did that.

The sign-up page and terms and conditions still have no indication that they will require more information from you, conveniently when you have steal-able funds in the account. There is also no indication of federal pressure brought to bear on them to comply with anti-money-laundering laws and to randomly lock Islamic sounding account names, or that they even looked into their responsibility to comply with money exchange laws before opening and won't end up in Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison with the e-gold guy with all our assets seized.

How about I take my security seriously. Dwolla has not stated what they plan on doing with my photo ID, keeping it on their servers forever for rogue employees to copy to USB drives, for hackers to steal and sell to Ukrainian identity thieves, or sending it to the IRS or the Secret Service?


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: terroh8er on August 03, 2011, 07:55:12 PM
I haven't gotten this e-mail, but if true, I think this is why Bitcoin is tanking.


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: jackjack on August 03, 2011, 07:56:58 PM
Anyway, what is dwolla???


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: DrKennethNoisewater on August 03, 2011, 08:31:00 PM
Paxum was always better.

Glad to see Dwolla stepping it up.

In related news, just this morning, Paypal opened up an account I had left years ago. In fact, created a new one which caused them to find the old one.  Now I have two good Paypal accounts :)

Anyone want to buy Bitcoin using Paypal? lulz

I say more like:

How dare Dwolla randomly lock accounts and funds, and then demand more information that they never suggested was required. This is ripping a page from the PayPal playbook. Next they will start randomly locking accounts and then demanding proof that you shipped an item or demand invoices and business licenses and SSN cards to see how much money they can keep? Maybe they can pull money back out of your account with no notification, while revising their web page and rewriting history where they stated that wouldn't happen. Oh, they already do that. Changing the terms I agreed to, terms that had no provision for change in them? Already did that.

The sign-up page and terms and conditions still have no indication that they will require more information from you, conveniently when you have steal-able funds in the account. There is also no indication of federal pressure brought to bear on them to comply with anti-money-laundering laws and to randomly lock Islamic sounding account names, or that they even looked into their responsibility to comply with money exchange laws before opening and won't end up in Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison with the e-gold guy with all our assets seized.

How about I take my security seriously. Dwolla has not stated what they plan on doing with my photo ID, keeping it on their servers forever for rogue employees to copy to USB drives, for hackers to steal and sell to Ukrainian identity thieves, or sending it to the IRS or the Secret Service?


Agreed.

I have transferred cash from Dwolla to my bank many times.

Now, all of a sudden, show your ID or you don't get your soup. Bullshit.

BTC is such a great concept; It's just to bad that all of the companies centered around it, including the major exchanges, are run by dimwits and dumbards.



DKN


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: KaptainBlaZzed on August 03, 2011, 08:46:32 PM
They tried this on me yesterday and i sent them a nice email explaining my issues with their new requirements.

Today i received a call from Dwolla thanking me for my reply and wanting to verify my account over the phone, which i did.
They wanted to verify the information they have on file is accurate.

After verbally verifying my account, i received an email from Dwolla saying my photo ID had been accepted and my account was available for use.


Moral of the story:
IF you actually work with a company/vendor/person instead of crying foul and ranting about it on a forum you might get what you want.


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: IIOII on August 03, 2011, 09:04:37 PM
Moral of the story:
IF you actually work with a company/vendor/person instead of crying foul and ranting about it on a forum you might get what you want.


Nonetheless: The growing data collection hysteria sucks.


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: JeffK on August 03, 2011, 09:10:01 PM
Moral of the story:
IF you actually work with a company/vendor/person instead of crying foul and ranting about it on a forum you might get what you want.


Nonetheless: The growing data collection hysteria sucks.

You know what? If every service that touches Bitcoin didn't become a target of fraud, causing huge monetary losses for lots of people, none of this would be required.

Yet here we are


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: k9quaint on August 03, 2011, 09:17:51 PM
Moral of the story:
IF you actually work with a company/vendor/person instead of crying foul and ranting about it on a forum you might get what you want.


Nonetheless: The growing data collection hysteria sucks.

You know what? If every service that touches Bitcoin didn't become a target of fraud, causing huge monetary losses for lots of people, none of this would be required.

Yet here we are

You are touching Bitcoin.


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: Bitonetta on August 03, 2011, 09:28:32 PM
When they start asking for ID?  I've gotten a call from then like a week or so ago.  Figured it was because I added and started to use another bank account.  Since my normal account funds was getting added more rapidly then I've liked.  Wasn't any problems with it tho.  I've moved many thousands through them since bitcoin started without issues.  Guess we'll see next time I cash out.


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: error on August 03, 2011, 09:30:02 PM
This is a duplicate thread. The original is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33805.0


Title: Re: DWOLLA requiring photo ID now
Post by: bracek on August 03, 2011, 10:09:06 PM


How about I take my security seriously. Dwolla has not stated what they plan on doing with my photo ID, keeping it on their servers forever for rogue employees to copy to USB drives, for hackers to steal and sell to Ukrainian identity thieves, or sending it to the IRS or the Secret Service?

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exactly that...