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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: Vod on November 19, 2013, 11:21:11 PM



Title: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Vod on November 19, 2013, 11:21:11 PM
I need a trusted forum member who lives in the United States to become my partner in a new Bitcoin business relevant to this Lending forum.

Your duties would be as follows:

- Fully prove your identify
- Register a Post Office (PO) Box (for your safety)
- Receive physical items through the PO Box
- Update online records, answer online queries
- Mail physical items

You will be paid in bitcoin per send/receive transaction.

I will be asking for similar partners for other countries soon. 

I welcome any questions or comments.


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: jojo69 on November 19, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
Are you a Nigerian prince?


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Vod on November 19, 2013, 11:23:41 PM
Are you a Nigerian prince?

No.  I am a Canadian citizen and willing to prove my identity as well.


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Tomatocage on November 19, 2013, 11:29:08 PM
Vod approached me with this idea earlier, and I believe it does have merit, but it would require a bit of time on the participants part, which I do not have unfortunately. However, there could be money to be made here and you'd be doing the community a service :)


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: jojo69 on November 19, 2013, 11:34:49 PM
Are you a Nigerian prince?

No.  I am a Canadian citizen and willing to prove my identity as well.

pity, I only do this sort of deal with Nigerian princes


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: damiano on November 19, 2013, 11:41:16 PM
I need a trusted forum member who lives in the United States to become my partner in a new Bitcoin business relevant to this Lending forum.

Your duties would be as follows:

- Fully prove your identify
- Register a Post Office (PO) Box (for your safety)
- Receive physical items through the PO Box
- Update online records, answer online queries
- Mail physical items

You will be paid in bitcoin per send/receive transaction.

I will be asking for similar partners for other countries soon. 

I welcome any questions or comments.

I'm interested.

Sent PM


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: monbux on November 20, 2013, 01:53:44 AM
I might be interested in this, from your fellow in Canada :D


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: wmcleod on November 20, 2013, 04:59:40 AM
i am in new york... i am hesitant to give up all of my information though.

can you provide a bit more details on what this opportunity entails?  is it legal?


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Vod on November 20, 2013, 05:23:44 AM
i am in new york... i am hesitant to give up all of my information though.

can you provide a bit more details on what this opportunity entails?  is it legal?

You can't be anonymous with this venture, since I would be trusting you with the property of my clients.  You also have to be at least 18 years old.   ;)

I am willing to offer a percentage of the company profits to my US partner since the US will be a major market.

The goods and the work are all legal.  I will be running a bitcoin company.  You will deal with sending and receiving packages that I cannot receive in Canada.  You verify the item, update the website and store it until you ship it out.  You will get paid each time you touch a package and postage is pre-paid.






Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: jojo69 on November 20, 2013, 05:29:21 AM
soooo, we are avoiding import duty?

Where are these "packages" coming from?


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: SaltySpitoon on November 20, 2013, 05:30:36 AM
Gotta be careful here Vod, to me it sounds like you are essentially opening a Bitcoin Pawn shop, or large scale collateral loan brokerage. Both of those things are incredibly regulated in the U.S. For loans, depending on state you can't hold collateral, and you are limited to the amount of % interest you can charge. In Maryland, you aren't even allowed to do legal lending tree things, where its a bank that is funded by individuals that gives loans to individuals for profit. In a pawn shop senario, you would have to have all sorts of wierd licensing, and you aren't allowed to accept items shipped to you, have to report items to the local police departments to make sure things aren't stolen, and wait 60-90 days before being allowed to move the items.

Of course all depending on state. I've looked into things for my state, so the information might be different depending on where you are. A buddy and I had a similar idea a while back, but it wasn't feasible, due to the chances of us being arrested for BS charges.

(Pm me if you don't want this post here or if I'm not assuming right and its off topic, and I'll delete it)


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Vod on November 20, 2013, 05:34:35 AM
soooo, we are avoiding import duty?

Where are these "packages" coming from?

Not avoiding duty but practicing common sense.

Why would I pay to ship a package across an international border twice?  The cost would be passed on to my clients.  There is no need for a package to come to my office in Canada if it is received from and sent to a US address.

These packages will be coming from clients I will be doing bitcoin business with.  


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: jojo69 on November 20, 2013, 05:36:00 AM
OK, sorry to bust your balls.

You will, I hope, understand a bit of healthy skepticism.


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Vod on November 20, 2013, 05:38:35 AM
Gotta be careful here Vod, to me it sounds like you are essentially opening a Bitcoin Pawn shop, or large scale collateral loan brokerage. Both of those things are incredibly regulated in the U.S. For loans, depending on state you can't hold collateral, and you are limited to the amount of % interest you can charge. In Maryland, you aren't even allowed to do legal lending tree things, where its a bank that is funded by individuals that gives loans to individuals for profit. In a pawn shop senario, you would have to have all sorts of wierd licensing, and you aren't allowed to accept items shipped to you, have to report items to the local police departments to make sure things aren't stolen, and wait 60-90 days before being allowed to move the items.

Of course all depending on state. I've looked into things for my state, so the information might be different depending on where you are. A buddy and I had a similar idea a while back, but it wasn't feasible, due to the chances of us being arrested for BS charges.

Interesting.  That would all but kill my idea for the US.  But if I can still run it in Canada (once I check the laws) people on the US can use it but they'll have to pay the postage and duty both ways.   :-\

jojo69 - np, I bust newbies balls here on a daily basis - gotta expect it.  :)


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: SaltySpitoon on November 20, 2013, 05:47:22 AM
Interesting.  That would all but kill my idea for the US.  But if I can still run it in Canada (once I check the laws) people on the US can use it but they'll have to pay the postage and duty both ways.   :-\

jojo69 - np, I bust newbies balls here on a daily basis - gotta expect it.  :)

Yeah sorry to be a downer on that, but no harm in looking into it yourself. I would say your actual best bet, would be finding someone who lived in Puerto Rico. I would imagine they would be far less strict on enforcing victimless "financial crimes" and the shipping cost is the same anywhere in the U.S. It costs the same for someone to ship a package from boardering states, as it does to ship from Washington to Puerto Rico.


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Vod on November 21, 2013, 10:59:48 PM
Thank you everyone for your PMs.  At this point I am no longer looking for a partner in the US.

I am looking into the Puerto Rico idea though.


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: moni3z on November 22, 2013, 05:24:55 AM
Anything shipped out of PR is raped by customs automatically due to drugs shipments history. What are you doing.. moving gold? phones?


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Ltsknnr on November 24, 2013, 09:02:05 PM
It's legal  as long as you register a legal entity in the state in which your US counterpart operates. Ideally, you would form it as a C-corp since )S corp and LLC cannot have members that are not citizens or registered aliens (green card) of the US).

The corporation would then have it's own account, and everything would run through it, and you and your partner would receive a salary and dividends from the company profits.

Feel free to PM me with any questions. My background is in real estate investing and hard money lending so I'm pretty familiar with what you're trying to do.

Cheers



Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Bitlend on November 25, 2013, 08:21:33 AM
Thank you everyone for your PMs.  At this point I am no longer looking for a partner in the US.

I am looking into the Puerto Rico idea though.

Hi Vod

Have a lending background in Australia, may have an interest in your partnership.

Feel free to PM or elaborate further on your proposal/idea here.

Are looking to setup online pawn using digital currency, is that the gist of it?

cheers.


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: inkadnb on November 25, 2013, 08:58:53 AM
I'd be willing, and in a very central part of the states.


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: SaltySpitoon on November 25, 2013, 04:49:35 PM
Anything shipped out of PR is raped by customs automatically due to drugs shipments history. What are you doing.. moving gold? phones?


It doesn't go through customs if it is coming from the U.S.


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: BTCSTOCKZ on November 25, 2013, 04:58:43 PM
I need a trusted forum member who lives in the United States to become my partner in a new Bitcoin business relevant to this Lending forum.

Your duties would be as follows:

- Fully prove your identify
- Register a Post Office (PO) Box (for your safety)
- Receive physical items through the PO Box
- Update online records, answer online queries
- Mail physical items

You will be paid in bitcoin per send/receive transaction.

I will be asking for similar partners for other countries soon. 

I welcome any questions or comments.



a "trusted forum member" lmao!  what's that?  ;D


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: Damnsammit on November 25, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
I'm definitely interested in hearing more.

I like the idea of a part time job that pays in Bitcoins. :D


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: BTCSTOCKZ on November 25, 2013, 05:12:58 PM
I'm definitely interested in hearing more.

I like the idea of a part time job that pays in Bitcoins. :D


prolly bath salts and hand grenades lol  ;D


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: jojo69 on November 25, 2013, 06:15:42 PM


a "trusted forum member" lmao!  what's that?  ;D

Gavin


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: pontiacg5 on November 25, 2013, 06:23:46 PM
I'm centrally located in the US, and I have UPS and USPS shipping accounts as well as automated scales, thermal label printers, and all the packing materials you would ever need. All of this is located at my day job, so it won't be a big deal to make sure daily things get done. Already have daily UPS and USPS drivers stopping for pickups. Things can be held in my office, possibly even in locked file cabinets if necessary.

Anyway, PM me if you want more info. Shouldn't be a problem proving who I am and that I've got what I say I do.





Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: BTCSTOCKZ on November 25, 2013, 10:48:18 PM


a "trusted forum member" lmao!  what's that?  ;D

Gavin


yes ~ very true  ;)


Title: Re: Looking for a trusted partner in the United States
Post by: martinver on December 31, 2013, 04:32:26 AM
Warning:  This user has TWO simultaneous loans active at the same time, with unsustainable rates.

SO ONLY YOUR INVESTMENTS ARE GOOD, GUYS DONT INVEST WITH THIS GUY, HE IS NOT LETTING ANYONE RECEIVE INVESTMENTS, WHY SHALL WE LET HIM GET A LOAN OR INVESTMENTS!!

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