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Title: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on April 26, 2018, 01:07:46 PM
What is the prospect of the project? It is planned to develop a project on telemedicine on the blockchain. Remote consultations of doctors and patients.


Title: Re: Блoкчeйн в мeдицинe
Post by: KingScorpio on April 26, 2018, 01:52:00 PM
Кaкaя пepcпeктивa пpoeктa? Плaниpyeтcя paзpaбoткa пpoeктa пo тeлeмeдицинe нa блoкчeйн. Удaлeнныe кoнcyльтaции вpaчeй и пaциeнтoв.

this belongs into the russian subforum....


Title: Re:Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on April 26, 2018, 02:05:25 PM
What is the prospect of the project? It is planned to develop a project on telemedicine on the blockchain. Remote consultations of doctors and patients.

this belongs into the russian subforum....

Sorry, the project itself will be aimed at European countries


Title: Re: Блoкчeйн в мeдицинe
Post by: KingScorpio on April 26, 2018, 02:07:28 PM
Кaкaя пepcпeктивa пpoeктa? Плaниpyeтcя paзpaбoткa пpoeктa пo тeлeмeдицинe нa блoкчeйн. Удaлeнныe кoнcyльтaции вpaчeй и пaциeнтoв.

this belongs into the russian subforum....

Sorry, the project itself will be aimed at European countries

then write with a translation or only post into the russian forum... or where you just trieing to adress russians outside of russia? even in that case you could have added a translation.


Title: Re: Блoкчeйн в мeдицинe
Post by: roman_kadikov on April 26, 2018, 02:20:28 PM
Кaкaя пepcпeктивa пpoeктa? Плaниpyeтcя paзpaбoткa пpoeктa пo тeлeмeдицинe нa блoкчeйн. Удaлeнныe кoнcyльтaции вpaчeй и пaциeнтoв.

this belongs into the russian subforum....

Sorry, the project itself will be aimed at European countries

then write with a translation or only post into the russian forum... or where you just trieing to adress russians outside of russia? even in that case you could have added a translation.
Correct their mistakes. Could you help me on my question?


Title: Re: Блoкчeйн в мeдицинe
Post by: KingScorpio on April 26, 2018, 02:34:38 PM
Кaкaя пepcпeктивa пpoeктa? Плaниpyeтcя paзpaбoткa пpoeктa пo тeлeмeдицинe нa блoкчeйн. Удaлeнныe кoнcyльтaции вpaчeй и пaциeнтoв.

this belongs into the russian subforum....

Sorry, the project itself will be aimed at European countries

then write with a translation or only post into the russian forum... or where you just trieing to adress russians outside of russia? even in that case you could have added a translation.
Correct their mistakes. Could you help me on my question?

no i am not a medicine expert but now at least nonrussian speakers can read your question.

the way you asked this question is horrible however you should improve it


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: Bitcoin2018 on April 26, 2018, 08:10:46 PM
I think that such ICO was created already. I don't remember the name of the project, but it was related to telemedicine. My view that sush projects will not  popular^ because telemedecine is not popular.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: aoluain on April 26, 2018, 08:45:13 PM
Im not sure if this has been done already but I think blockchain technology
would be suited to the issuing, tracking and administering prescriptions.

Also in recording an individual's medication and medical records.

Would the technology help in correct filing and reduce/eliminate
incorrect filing and/or lost files?


Title: Re:Blockchain in medicine
Post by: mi2018 on April 26, 2018, 11:09:10 PM
What is the prospect of the project? It is planned to develop a project on telemedicine on the blockchain. Remote consultations of doctors and patients.

this belongs into the russian subforum....

Sorry, the project itself will be aimed at European countries
I think its hard to monetize from medicine in European countries


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: SimpeleSimpele on April 26, 2018, 11:33:17 PM
ico project use medicine project in 2017 much project and majority big succes
but in 2018 can't prediction medicine project still can big succes or not


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: hurry_hore on April 27, 2018, 06:01:23 AM
What is the prospect of the project? It is planned to develop a project on telemedicine on the blockchain. Remote consultations of doctors and patients.

I think as long as the medicine project has a unique offer or if there are competitors but still has the killing features still has a good prospect. Currently there are 3 projects as I know take part in medicine: Lympo, Medichain and Docademic. If more specific in remote consultations of doctors and patient, it is Docademic. They has finish the ICO successfully but not too big success at least still worthied. Hope your telemedicine project will be successful.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: CryptoHelvetia on April 27, 2018, 08:13:35 AM
ico project use medicine project in 2017 much project and majority big succes
but in 2018 can't prediction medicine project still can big succes or not
I started following this London based ICO https://medicalchain.com/en/ some weeks ago, what do you think about this project?


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on April 27, 2018, 08:44:33 AM
I think that such ICO was created already. I don't remember the name of the project, but it was related to telemedicine. My view that sush projects will not  popular^ because telemedecine is not popular.
I can not agree, all over the world there is no single project that worked in two countries. The largest project on telemedicine TELADOC is,but it may not work in different countries, because there are objective difficulties of compliance with the law on tele-health in different countries.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on April 27, 2018, 08:57:24 AM
Im not sure if this has been done already but I think blockchain technology
would be suited to the issuing, tracking and administering prescriptions.

Also in recording an individual's medication and medical records.

Would the technology help in correct filing and reduce/eliminate
incorrect filing and/or lost files?
I fully agree that the blockchain in telemedicine will allow you to get high-speed access to the necessary information from any corner of the country, fast data processing will be carried out, hassle-free exchange of experience in the treatment of a disease, the confidentiality of the history of the disease, because access only those who know the cunning encrypted password (doctor and patient).


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: intellicorepress on April 27, 2018, 09:21:28 AM
There are lots of startups and established companies working on this. We have compiled a pretty extensive and current list of international blockchain in healthcare projects here: https://www.blockchain-gesundheitswesen.de/blockchain-im-gesundheitswesen-startups-patientendaten/ (https://www.blockchain-gesundheitswesen.de/blockchain-im-gesundheitswesen-startups-patientendaten/) (Sorry about the introductory sentences in German.)

Also check:
A Quick Guide to Blockchain in Healthcare (https://www.amazon.com/Quick-Blockchain-Healthcare-Intellicore-Dossiers-ebook/dp/B072JH2YDF/)


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on April 27, 2018, 11:47:34 AM
ico project use medicine project in 2017 much project and majority big succes
but in 2018 can't prediction medicine project still can big succes or not
I think that because of the adopted law on telemedicine, market players are very disappointed. Because not happened main: remote diagnosis is still not possible, only permissible online consultation.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: entrepmind23 on April 27, 2018, 12:04:09 PM
What is the prospect of the project? It is planned to develop a project on telemedicine on the blockchain. Remote consultations of doctors and patients.

Blockchain in telemedicine is good but my question would be where area are you planning to apply the telemedicine or what is the target market? Is it in rural areas or the city? Telemedicine is a big help for the people to not travel especially if they live in a far place which maybe hours away from hospital but then there are times when a doctor is needed on the spot because he needs to check the patients condition physically so that he can pinpoint what is wrong with the patient and can provide the right medicine.

Besides that, those old people have some problems when it comes to technology so if they do not have companion then it would be hard for them to operate the system to contact the doctor. The help of the government is needed as well when it comes to this because there would be times when there is emergency patient and you need to transport them immediately.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on April 27, 2018, 12:36:04 PM
ico project use medicine project in 2017 much project and majority big succes
but in 2018 can't prediction medicine project still can big succes or not
I started following this London based ICO https://medicalchain.com/en/ some weeks ago, what do you think about this project?
The MEDICAL CHAIN platform stated that the network members will be able to receive online consultations from various professionals located in different parts of the world. Patients will have permanent access to their medical data from anywhere and from any device. But the legislation of many countries prohibits the transfer of data. For example take 152 FZ of the Russian. I can't transfer my data. All data should be stored in Russia. In some cases, it can be done no one will forbid, but if the project is aimed at a mass audience it will be prohibited.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on April 27, 2018, 12:48:40 PM
What is the prospect of the project? It is planned to develop a project on telemedicine on the blockchain. Remote consultations of doctors and patients.

Blockchain in telemedicine is good but my question would be where area are you planning to apply the telemedicine or what is the target market? Is it in rural areas or the city? Telemedicine is a big help for the people to not travel especially if they live in a far place which maybe hours away from hospital but then there are times when a doctor is needed on the spot because he needs to check the patients condition physically so that he can pinpoint what is wrong with the patient and can provide the right medicine.

Besides that, those old people have some problems when it comes to technology so if they do not have companion then it would be hard for them to operate the system to contact the doctor. The help of the government is needed as well when it comes to this because there would be times when there is emergency patient and you need to transport them immediately.
Like most telemedicine projects, the target audience is diverse, but not the knowledge of modern technology provides no convenience. The service can be used from different parts of the country, where there are communications. But the law allows you to use the service only when you re-admission and operates in the territory of one country.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: Charloz24 on April 28, 2018, 08:07:36 PM
I know good project with apps for medicine pacients: it's Hearthy company on the blockchain. But ICO postponed to a later date. I advise you to read about Hearthy.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: intellicorepress on April 29, 2018, 11:25:55 AM
I think that because of the adopted law on telemedicine, market players are very disappointed. Because not happened main: remote diagnosis is still not possible, only permissible online consultation.
That VERY MUCH depends on the country (and even the federal state) you're operating in.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: chadtn on April 29, 2018, 02:06:41 PM
Analyze the market, look at your competitors. Try to determine their advantages and disadvantages, and also think about whether you have the uniqueness of your project, which is nowhere to be found. Good luck


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: Kakmakr on April 30, 2018, 06:41:38 AM
Telemedicine - the remote diagnosis and treatment of patients by means of telecommunications technology. Now how would Blockchain technology improve remote diagnosis of patients? The only thing that I can think of is for doctors to do the remote diagnosis and then to send the prescriptions via the Blockchain. <The information on these prescriptions cannot be changed or manipulated and it is public record, which is a infringement of the patient & doctor relationship>

In my view, the solution for one problem, bring more challenges in other areas. ^hmmmmm^


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: trupero_uno on May 01, 2018, 03:56:13 AM
I guess medicine sectors are needed by people to get good health, there will be lot of demand for the service. As long as I know, prescription from doctors could be different from each country based on regulation and rule. So how can you solve that problem with your project?


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: Kemarit on May 01, 2018, 04:11:38 AM
What is the prospect of the project? It is planned to develop a project on telemedicine on the blockchain. Remote consultations of doctors and patients.

Someone has already done this project before and the ICO has just concluded if I'm not mistaken. Its called DOCACADEMIC.

Quote
About Docademic
The DOCADEMIC PLATFORM is a single globally-sourced healthcare service platform for the public that begins with free Human Doctor-AI assisted Video Telemedicine service (DOCADEMIC APP) already in use in 20 countries by thousands of users and an associated suite of AI assisted tools and social network for the medical community (Docademic for Doctors). Combined, these produce the highest level of free basic quality healthcare allowing any individual to access the benefits and knowledge of healthcare that technology now permits.

The DOCADEMIC PLATFORM´s DOCADEMIC APP is built on top of DOCADEMIC´s existing, patient data routing and AI assisted technologies soon to be blockchain enabled. With its simplicity of use It becomes the ultimate resource for anyone who needs orientation in a health-related issue—a one touch system that connects any patient with a Doctor through Video Telemedicine for free, from any country a user is located in. All patient information will be secured on a blockchain and represents a perfect On-Ramp to healthcare services on a blockchain. In comparison, other healthcare related blockchain projects don’t have an effective On-Ramp to healthcare services. With our free Telemedicine service we can get the masses to benefit from blockchain technology in Healthcare.

https://icobench.com/ico/docademic

The only thing I don't like though is that they used John McAffee's name to promote this project. LOL.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: onrise on May 01, 2018, 06:05:46 AM
Analyze the market, look at your competitors. Try to determine their advantages and disadvantages, and also think about whether you have the uniqueness of your project, which is nowhere to be found. Good luck

It is correct that before even starting to do research and implementation it is necessary to first understand the country law and confirm with the regulatory board that they can allow it in your country else what will happen is that you all efforts will go in vain if they decide not to allow it.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: blockchainwriters on May 01, 2018, 11:31:13 AM
Telemedicine is a vast growing industry and has been adapted by many top medical institutions in the world. However, due to the law, it is not possible for medical data transfer across the countries, but I think if the projects are developed in a sense, where the remoteness stick in to within a country, but still it helps a lot for the patients who live in more rural areas.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: jahn_quid on May 01, 2018, 12:23:17 PM
I'm not sure I'm following; is this a general question about blockchain applications for medicine? Or is there a particular application/ICO that is being scrutinized here?

If general, I've heard some pretty decent arguments regarding blockchain usage in the patents and R&D fields. In a nutshell: 1) That being patents can be clearly delineated by researchers and not by big pharma companies so that drugs can be developed, produced, and sold significantly cheaper than what is currently being done; and 2) creating a incentive and rewards system for researchers to remain independent of big pharmaceutical companies.

To be frank, I don't think this solves the whole motivation of research issues that are present in this industry. But at the same time, it is an important issue that we should be looking at - creating affordable medicine for all.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on May 02, 2018, 08:16:30 AM
I know good project with apps for medicine pacients: it's Hearthy company on the blockchain. But ICO postponed to a later date. I advise you to read about Hearthy.
Something went wrong with the team


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on May 02, 2018, 08:22:56 AM
I think that because of the adopted law on telemedicine, market players are very disappointed. Because not happened main: remote diagnosis is still not possible, only permissible online consultation.
That VERY MUCH depends on the country (and even the federal state) you're operating in.
The legislation of many countries does not provide an opportunity for online consultations,and in Russia and online consultations are prohibited,only the second opinion after a full inspection


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on May 02, 2018, 10:28:00 AM
I'm not sure I'm following; is this a general question about blockchain applications for medicine? Or is there a particular application/ICO that is being scrutinized here?

If general, I've heard some pretty decent arguments regarding blockchain usage in the patents and R&D fields. In a nutshell: 1) That being patents can be clearly delineated by researchers and not by big pharma companies so that drugs can be developed, produced, and sold significantly cheaper than what is currently being done; and 2) creating a incentive and rewards system for researchers to remain independent of big pharmaceutical companies.

To be frank, I don't think this solves the whole motivation of research issues that are present in this industry. But at the same time, it is an important issue that we should be looking at - creating affordable medicine for all.
Still, the question remains, how do they write that the service works in 20 countries, if by law this can not be done?


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: intellicorepress on May 02, 2018, 05:22:51 PM
The legislation of many countries does not provide an opportunity for online consultations,and in Russia and online consultations are prohibited,only the second opinion after a full inspection
True, but this is currently changing, for example in several EU countries.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: Rtalk on May 02, 2018, 06:42:50 PM
Good prospect.Many people will be able to learn about health problems even before the doctor's appointment. It is also very convenient, especially for the elderly.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on May 03, 2018, 08:07:40 AM
Good prospect.Many people will be able to learn about health problems even before the doctor's appointment. It is also very convenient, especially for the elderly.
A big plus is that you can consult with a highly qualified specialist


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on May 03, 2018, 08:09:46 AM
The legislation of many countries does not provide an opportunity for online consultations,and in Russia and online consultations are prohibited,only the second opinion after a full inspection
True, but this is currently changing, for example in several EU countries.
In Russia, the state wants to impose on all hands, in principle, this is normal, but the development of the project can greatly suffer


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: intellicorepress on May 03, 2018, 12:29:55 PM
In Russia, the state wants to impose on all hands, in principle, this is normal, but the development of the project can greatly suffer
Yes, that's a problem for Russian digital health in general. We did a market analysis on that last year: A Quick Guide to E-Health in Russia (https://www.amazon.com/Quick-Health-Russia-Intellicore-Dossiers-ebook/dp/B072MTB7J3)

However, overly strict regulation is something with which the government of any country only disadvantages the startups in the country itself - the same ones that they should be supporting. There is more than enough competition outside of any country's borders - for example, an increasing number of UK-based telemedicine services are marketing themselves globally.

And this, in turn, is a disadvantage for patients who can't afford to pay out of pocket for these services, and who have to rely on healthcare provided by the state or statutory health insurance.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on May 03, 2018, 12:40:25 PM
In Russia, the state wants to impose on all hands, in principle, this is normal, but the development of the project can greatly suffer
Yes, that's a problem for Russian digital health in general. We did a market analysis on that last year: A Quick Guide to E-Health in Russia (https://www.amazon.com/Quick-Health-Russia-Intellicore-Dossiers-ebook/dp/B072MTB7J3)

However, overly strict regulation is something with which the government of any country only disadvantages the startups in the country itself - the same ones that they should be supporting. There is more than enough competition outside of any country's borders - for example, an increasing number of UK-based telemedicine services are marketing themselves globally.

And this, in turn, is a disadvantage for patients who can't afford to pay out of pocket for these services, and who have to rely on healthcare provided by the state or statutory health insurance.
I agree,it greatly hinders patients


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: shield132 on May 03, 2018, 04:52:46 PM
If whole medicine and aphotecas will turn on blockchain, that will be great. For example every sold medicine, supplements and etc will be on blockchain, it will lessen number of sold prescriptional drugs illegally from aphotecas. Also patients won't be able to give their supplements to others for fun because they will be limite d and everything will be on blockchain which can't be modified.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: roman_kadikov on May 04, 2018, 10:46:28 AM
In fact, a blockchain (or a distributed registry system) is a huge Ledger that records all data on the receipt and expenditure of funds. At the same time, each participant can at any time look into this book and find out who, when and in what amount the funds were transferred.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: margarita_free on May 04, 2018, 12:37:07 PM
hello, i would to talking more about that.
I saw, that some years ago many project gone crazy abot telemedicine, and i understand, why.
I had expirience in it too, and worked in good, on my opinion, project, with cool team,
many professional doctors, etc. it was awarded, and seems to all of us very perspective.
But, anyway, they closed, and it is because many reasons, like:

- you must pay for your doctor, but doctor couldn't take real receipt to your patience without internal inspection.
- if you pay for your doctors, you must pay great advertise campaign too
- if you have great advertising campaign, price on that service will be high, so, you anyway must go to doctor from eyes to eyes.

Of course, you can do big, amazing big project with telemed blockchain, but, in my opinion, this project will  fall down.


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: zpopdream on May 04, 2018, 06:45:53 PM
Probably blockchain may be very useful as regarding storing patients' records to prevent them from hacks.
It could work out that way to use blockchain


Title: Re: Blockchain in medicine
Post by: Cryptobosslady on May 04, 2018, 11:45:57 PM
There are projects on telemedicine, I can't remember the names but this project is definitely not new. But is a very gud projection like using blockchain to store patients data