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Title: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Tigggger on November 21, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
Just happened to glance at my trust page, and noticed someone I've never heard of has left me negative trust saying I cost them $6600

https://i.imgur.com/WcpvXJj.jpg

Looking at their page and their ratings it appears they meant to leave it to a user called desto

https://i.imgur.com/ANGB9Lh.jpg

desto was running the scam in this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318582.0

I posted in the thread twice, both times warning people, and I end up being neg'd which is bloody annoying.

Most is overpriced but then all asic hardware is.

I'd be tempted buy the UK jupiter, but not sending 22 BTC to a new website when there is so little information.

I understand the desire to keep all the listings the same size, but when you click on one, it should provide more info, ie real photos of the unit, pictures of it hashing, location, would the buyer allow payment on collection etc etc


Multiple people have bought and paid for the same miners

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=326833.0

Be very careful



Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Welsh on November 21, 2013, 01:30:10 PM
I don't think you can get it removed. Unless, you contact the person who left it. Ask them to take a look at this thread and they may seethe mistake they did and remove it. If you don't get any answer you could try contacting a staff member. But, I doubt they would be able to do anything.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: tysat on November 21, 2013, 01:30:40 PM
Talk to the person who left them and ask them to remove the rating, that is the only way it will get removed.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Tigggger on November 21, 2013, 01:54:33 PM
Talk to the person who left them and ask them to remove the rating, that is the only way it will get removed.

I tried that, looks like they left the feedback and haven't been back since.

So my reputation is permanently tarnished because some idiot clicked on the wrong person, what a great system :(


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: bitcoinbible on November 21, 2013, 08:37:13 PM
Talk to the person who left them and ask them to remove the rating, that is the only way it will get removed.

this is not true, mods can also remove!  ::)


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: DrahogErusiel on November 21, 2013, 09:01:18 PM
Talk to the person who left them and ask them to remove the rating, that is the only way it will get removed.

this is not true, mods can also remove!  ::)

it will work out buddy. keep this thread alive and a mod will see it. ive had bogus feedback removed by a mod


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: bitcoinbible on November 21, 2013, 09:03:33 PM
Talk to the person who left them and ask them to remove the rating, that is the only way it will get removed.

this is not true, mods can also remove!  ::)

it will work out buddy. keep this thread alive and a mod will see it. ive had bogus feedback removed by a mod

yes and ive had REAL feedback removed by a mod


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: DrahogErusiel on November 21, 2013, 09:18:44 PM
Talk to the person who left them and ask them to remove the rating, that is the only way it will get removed.

this is not true, mods can also remove!  ::)

it will work out buddy. keep this thread alive and a mod will see it. ive had bogus feedback removed by a mod

yes and ive had REAL feedback removed by a mod


leaving you currently with no feedback and like 4 post? probably due to your post count being so low. hard to trust someone who waves at you from a passing car


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: gweedo on November 21, 2013, 09:21:00 PM
PM theymos, he will not remove it, but it will show him another case in which the Trust rating is being abuse, and hopefully he can remove the whole system.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: bitcoinbible on November 21, 2013, 09:23:32 PM
PM theymos, he will not remove it, but it will show him another case in which the Trust rating is being abuse, and hopefully he can remove the whole system.

/\now we are talking!  ;)


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Tigggger on November 21, 2013, 09:32:08 PM
it will work out buddy. keep this thread alive and a mod will see it. ive had bogus feedback removed by a mod

Thanks I hope so too.

I can understand the mods not wanting to get involved when there are two sides to the story, but I hope they see this as a clear cut case of incorrect feedback and remove it.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: jackjack on November 21, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
So my reputation is permanently tarnished because some idiot clicked on the wrong person, what a great system :(
You warned about his scam
I'm pretty sure you were exactly the person he wanted to neg-rate


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Kouye on November 21, 2013, 09:55:30 PM
So my reputation is permanently tarnished because some idiot clicked on the wrong person, what a great system :(
Not quite. If people investigate about you, they'll just discard this useless rating.
And even if they do not investigate, nobody has Weegil66 in their trust list, no worries.

Remember trust ratings fade with time, too.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Tigggger on November 21, 2013, 10:00:40 PM
So my reputation is permanently tarnished because some idiot clicked on the wrong person, what a great system :(
You warned about his scam
I'm pretty sure you were exactly the person he wanted to neg-rate

But it wasn't the scammer that left the feedback, it looks like a user that fell for it.

Looks like another user who I've had no dealings with has taken the opportunity to further abuse the trust system and wind me up, fucking ridiculous

https://i.imgur.com/uAXQmkw.jpg

Not quite. If people investigate about you, they'll just discard this useless rating.

And what if they don't investigate.  What if I decide I want to buy something and all they do is see that I allegedly scammed someone (now multiple people)


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: bitcoinbible on November 21, 2013, 10:04:55 PM
So my reputation is permanently tarnished because some idiot clicked on the wrong person, what a great system :(
You warned about his scam
I'm pretty sure you were exactly the person he wanted to neg-rate

this NEVER happens lol  :D


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Kouye on November 21, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
So my reputation is permanently tarnished because some idiot clicked on the wrong person, what a great system :(
You warned about his scam
I'm pretty sure you were exactly the person he wanted to neg-rate

But it wasn't the scammer that left the feedback, it looks like a user that fell for it.

Looks like another user who I've had no dealings with has taken the opportunity to further abuse the trust system and wind me up, fucking ridiculous

https://i.imgur.com/uAXQmkw.jpg

Not quite. If people investigate about you, they'll just discard this useless rating.

And what if they don't investigate.  What if I decide I want to buy something and all they do is see that I allegedly scammed someone (now multiple people)

I don't give a fuck about reports without ref thread, for example, and I hope most people do the same.
Magazine was on the edge in my books, couldn't figure him out.
Not sure what to think, now.

bitcoinbible, to give another example, is clean, but is taged as very, very dangerous in my book.  ;)


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: jackjack on November 21, 2013, 10:11:40 PM
So my reputation is permanently tarnished because some idiot clicked on the wrong person, what a great system :(
You warned about his scam
I'm pretty sure you were exactly the person he wanted to neg-rate

But it wasn't the scammer that left the feedback, it looks like a user that fell for it.

Looks like another user who I've had no dealings with has taken the opportunity to further abuse the trust system and wind me up, fucking ridiculous

Not quite. If people investigate about you, they'll just discard this useless rating.

And what if they don't investigate.  What if I decide I want to buy something and all they do is see that I allegedly scammed someone (now multiple people)
I'm 100% sure they are the same scammers behind these accounts

Also, if they don't investigate then they wouldn't see those ratings as they are from untrusted people (nobody has scammers in their trust list, well, except TF of course)


bitcoinbible, to give another example, is clean, but is taged as very, very dangerous in my book.  ;)
+1


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Tigggger on November 21, 2013, 10:20:38 PM
I'm 100% sure they are the same scammers behind these accounts

I can see that happening, but in this case they left the real scammer the same feedback. If it was the scammer using another account then he'd be unlikely to leave himself bad feedback.

Also, if they don't investigate then they wouldn't see those ratings as they are from untrusted people (nobody has scammers in their trust list, well, except TF of course)

What I mean is, they get as far as clicking on 'show untrusted feedback' but fail to investigate further and see that it's bogus.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Kouye on November 21, 2013, 10:22:27 PM
What I mean is, they get as far as clicking on 'show untrusted feedback' but fail to investigate further and see that it's bogus.
If so, you are probably safer not trading with them at all.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: bitcoinbible on November 21, 2013, 10:43:51 PM
So my reputation is permanently tarnished because some idiot clicked on the wrong person, what a great system :(
You warned about his scam
I'm pretty sure you were exactly the person he wanted to neg-rate

But it wasn't the scammer that left the feedback, it looks like a user that fell for it.

Looks like another user who I've had no dealings with has taken the opportunity to further abuse the trust system and wind me up, fucking ridiculous

https://i.imgur.com/uAXQmkw.jpg

Not quite. If people investigate about you, they'll just discard this useless rating.

And what if they don't investigate.  What if I decide I want to buy something and all they do is see that I allegedly scammed someone (now multiple people)

I don't give a fuck about reports without ref thread, for example, and I hope most people do the same.
Magazine was on the edge in my books, couldn't figure him out.
Not sure what to think, now.

bitcoinbible, to give another example, is clean, but is taged as very, very dangerous in my book.  ;)


ya satoshi libeled me both as: "hostile" and "i miss you bro" wtf?  ;D lol


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: freethink2013 on November 21, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
The trust system on here is fucked.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Kouye on November 21, 2013, 10:47:16 PM
ya satoshi libeled me as "hostile" and "i miss you bro" wtf?  ;D lol
I said dangerous. Not hostile, nor sexually attracting.
Just. Dangerous. I'm not even sure you're here to harvest. Which is why your rating is clean for now. ;)


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: Tigggger on November 23, 2013, 04:45:58 PM
The trust system on here is fucked.

I've posted in the past that someone can have 50 negative ratings but appear as trust 0 to most users. Now with this episode I agree with your assessment :)


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: nimda on November 23, 2013, 05:07:08 PM
The trust system on here is fucked.

I've posted in the past that someone can have 50 negative ratings but appear as trust 0 to most users. Now with this episode I agree with your assessment :)
It seems to work for me just fine. Maybe untrusted feedback needs to be a little more hidden, but you show up (rightfully) as 0 to me.


Title: Re: How to get my incorrect trust rating removed ?
Post by: btcton on November 24, 2013, 06:09:05 PM
I don't really care about ratings with no reference. What would be the whole point of trust ratings then? Purely subjective?