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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Kyle91 on November 21, 2013, 10:17:20 PM



Title: scammer tag me!
Post by: Kyle91 on November 21, 2013, 10:17:20 PM
if i scammed someone why am i not tagged


Title: Re: scammer tag me!
Post by: redtwitz on November 23, 2013, 04:10:12 PM
Scammer tags have been deprecated in favor of the trust system. Your trust rating is negative, so it seems to work.


Title: Re: scammer tag me!
Post by: WEB slicer on November 23, 2013, 04:21:07 PM
actually, i dont think it works very well. back in the day you had to actually scam somebody and the buyer had to prove you scammed. nowadays any idiot can say your a scammer even if a scam never happened.

i like the old way better.


Title: Re: scammer tag me!
Post by: redtwitz on November 23, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
actually, i dont think it works very well. back in the day you had to actually scam somebody and the buyer had to prove you scammed. nowadays any idiot can say your a scammer even if a scam never happened.

i like the old way better.

The new system might generate a few false positives (I haven't formed a personal opinion about what happened between you and Goat), but the old system had too many false negatives. THeymos was the only person handing out scammer tags, so it was him against thousands of scammers...


Title: Re: scammer tag me!
Post by: WEB slicer on November 23, 2013, 04:26:20 PM
then he should have had moderators help him. that is what mods are for right? the current system is ripe for abuse. aside from idiots like goat leaving BS feedback whats stopping somebody from using multiple accounts to build up trust on one account to scam on it later? nothing. right now its the wild wild west for bitcointalk feedback. people can say whatever the fuck they want. the community can not be left to govern itself. the mods need to be overseeing this forum, including dishing out scammer tags when appropriate. the current system is not effective, its sloppy and lazy.


Title: Re: scammer tag me!
Post by: redtwitz on November 23, 2013, 04:43:29 PM
then he should have had moderators help him. that is what mods are for right?

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the community can not be left to govern itself. the mods need to be overseeing this forum, including dishing out scammer tags when appropriate. the current system is not effective, its sloppy and lazy.

More or less. Moderators moderate.

Besides, there's no big different between having a default trust list a trusting just moderators. With a trust depth of 1, both come down to letting theymos choose who can label scammers as such.

the current system is ripe for abuse. aside from idiots like goat leaving BS feedback whats stopping somebody from using multiple accounts to build up trust on one account to scam on it later? nothing.

Feedback from users who aren't on your trust list won't affect the trust rating you see. The untrusted feedback is even hidden by default, so it has little impact.

right now its the wild wild west for bitcointalk feedback. people can say whatever the fuck they want.

Isn't that what Bitcoin is all about?


Title: Re: scammer tag me!
Post by: WEB slicer on November 23, 2013, 04:45:56 PM
The untrusted feedback is even hidden by default, so it has little impact.

i respectfully disagree, anybody can click show ratings and see a long list of fake feedback that can be the deciding factor if a new guy decides to send a scammer his next free meal.