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Title: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Micio on November 27, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
Look at this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349348.0) for original italian thread.

A man lost a wallet with more than 10000 BTC. He have the wallet backup but he don't have wallet password.

500 BTC reward for man
that find that password


The moment when you realize that you have lost the password of 10.000.000$


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: HighCommander on November 27, 2013, 08:30:36 PM
There's a possibility it can be restored. Hopefully a person who gives access to wallet sources can make sure that a person who unlocks the wallet won't take everything as a reward.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: dominicwin on November 27, 2013, 08:30:51 PM
that would be depressing.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on November 27, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
There's a possibility it can be restored. Hopefully a person who gives access to wallet sources can make sure that a person who unlocks the wallet won't take everything as a reward.

There is a secure way to do this. He can provide just an empty private key (or better yet one with a low value).


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: freet0pian on November 27, 2013, 08:33:17 PM
that would be depressing.

Understatement of the millennium...


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Micio on November 27, 2013, 08:34:59 PM
"The moment that you realize that you can't be milionaire because you forgot the password"


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: cedivad on November 27, 2013, 08:37:02 PM
It's just a troller, too bad you can't read italian, but there is nothing you are missing.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Micio on November 27, 2013, 08:40:13 PM
Use google Translator.

Troll or no, I do not know whether to be happy or sad about that guy.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: dexX7 on November 27, 2013, 08:43:20 PM
Does one have any address linked to this wallet?


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: jackjack on November 27, 2013, 09:03:43 PM
Credibility = 0

Next please


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: tvbcof on November 27, 2013, 09:08:13 PM

I'll be interested in two things, and I'll make some of my own estimates for the fun of it:

1)  Ratio of BTC lost due to forgotten passphrase vs. those to stolen wallet.dat's:
1e) 10/1

2)  First post here from someone needing to know how to get their coins from an encrypted wallet due to forgetting their passphrase:
2e) 3 days

Don't get me wrong...I think this is good an necessary work and I thank the dev team for it and all the other work.  But I do anticipate the encryption contributing to the 'deflationary' nature of the currency


 edit:  Note the date.  This comment was made in association with the release of 0.4-ish.



Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Lauda on November 27, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
Wow I can't believe some people
Luckily I remember 99% passwords without the need of writing down anything.

Quite a number of bitcoins have been lost already, deflation^2.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: drakesajin on November 27, 2013, 09:14:03 PM
Hope he gets it back :/


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Martijnvdc on November 27, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
Woohoo! This makes my bitcoins more valuable!


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Kouye on November 27, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
He will most likely send a wallet.exe file to anyone who asks, saying it's an auto-extractible zip file. ;D


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: jojo69 on November 27, 2013, 10:02:26 PM
the guy at walletrecoveryservices.com has a pretty good track record

he takes all the info the user can remember about the passphrase and starts bruteforce from there, I believe his fee is 15%


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Lauda on November 27, 2013, 10:04:46 PM
the guy at walletrecoveryservices.com has a pretty good track record

he takes all the info the user can remember about the passphrase and starts bruteforce from there, I believe his fee is 15%
15% of 10M?  ::)


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: jojo69 on November 27, 2013, 10:06:58 PM
the guy at walletrecoveryservices.com has a pretty good track record

he takes all the info the user can remember about the passphrase and starts bruteforce from there, I believe his fee is 15%
15% of 10M?  ::)

for a service with a track record of not running off with people's money?  sure

8.5M > 0.00


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on November 27, 2013, 10:07:18 PM
What about the guy that threw his HDD with 7600 coins and is now digging through dirt to find it?


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Lauda on November 27, 2013, 10:16:49 PM
What about the guy that threw his HDD with 7600 coins and is now digging through dirt to find it?
I doubt that he will find it though. From what I've read he has no money to get people to find it for him either.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Albino Gunner on November 27, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
What about the guy that threw his HDD with 7600 coins and is now digging through dirt to find it?
I doubt that he will find it though. From what I've read he has no money to get people to find it for him either.

He could just offer a reward from the £4.2m in BTC on there. He doesn't need to pay upfront.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: 2_Thumbs_Up on November 27, 2013, 10:37:13 PM
Wallets didn't have password protection 4 years ago.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Lauda on November 27, 2013, 11:09:57 PM
He could just offer a reward from the £4.2m in BTC on there. He doesn't need to pay upfront.
You're right.
I'd make a generous offer of $100k or more if it's found and wallet works.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: tvbcof on November 27, 2013, 11:17:18 PM
Wallets didn't have password protection 4 years ago.

Pure win.

Not so fast.  Fairly ancient wallets seem to load fine into the modern codebase.  Seems possible that an older wallet could be encrypted in anything past 0.4.  I've not tried it though since I think that encrypting wallets using bitcoin-qt is stupid in a lot of cases.  In fact, I've never even run anything but straight bitcoind.

OTOH, it seems equally or more likely that the whole $10M loss is a sham story.



Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: jojo69 on November 27, 2013, 11:22:33 PM
any wallet could have been manually encrypted with PGP no?


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: revilo on November 27, 2013, 11:59:48 PM
idiot.


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: lnternet on November 28, 2013, 03:56:04 AM
I have the password. How do I get the reward?


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: allthingsluxury on November 28, 2013, 06:44:39 AM
that would be depressing.

LOL no kidding!   ;D


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: SwissMiner on November 28, 2013, 06:48:59 AM
fake


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: gegewu on November 28, 2013, 08:50:56 AM
The answer will be found in the future


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: Trade101 on November 28, 2013, 01:02:29 PM
fake

without blockchain.info link of the address it really looks like a fake


Title: Re: Man lost 10.000.000$ password
Post by: stillfire on November 28, 2013, 01:21:48 PM
I also operate a password recovery service. Indeed you don't need to risk any money - to discover and validate a password only requires empty Bitcoin addresses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343611.0) from the wallet.

If this is not a scam the person should be able to go back to the exchange where they bought their coins and get a screenshot of the transaction history. Of course you can fake that but it'd help provide some substance to the claim.