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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Jabbatheslutt on November 29, 2013, 07:07:41 AM



Title: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on November 29, 2013, 07:07:41 AM
In last months cycle oct 17th-nov 17th I completed enough posts to earn me 0.1, however stunna only ever payed 0.03 and told me i was lucky to be getting that. He claimed the majority of my posts were "not constructive" whatever that means. I am almost certain stunne reneged on his promise due to the price hike and has been ignoring my pm's. I know there are others who have also been shorted by stunna and i would ask them to post here to see how much he owes.

Awaiting 0.07 from stunna


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: AuroraHF on November 29, 2013, 07:16:52 AM
In last months cycle oct 17th-nov 17th I completed enough posts to earn me 0.1, however stunna only ever payed 0.03 and told me i was lucky to be getting that. He claimed the majority of my posts were "not constructive" whatever that means. I am almost certain stunne reneged on his promise due to the price hike and has been ignoring my pm's. I know there are others who have also been shorted by stunna and i would ask them to post here to see how much he owes.

Awaiting 0.07 from stunna


I wasn't shorted by Stunna. I've looked through your posts and honestly it isn't quality in my opinion, most of them are just one sentence posts. Stunna paid me what he promised so I think you just have to work on your posts more.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Stunna on November 29, 2013, 07:34:30 AM
If you read my terms I state that I am paying per constructive post. I only had issues with a few people who seemed to ONLY be posting for the sake of the promotion. In an effort to minimize useless spam and posts on the forum I put in this rule. My goal isn't to short people out of money, I was more than happy to pay over 8BTC for ads during november. When I put up this promotion my hope was that people would continue to use the forum as they would normally rather than try and game the system.


0.03 indicates having 100 constructive posts, if you can go through your history and send me a PM convincing me you've made over 100 posts of some value I'll send the remaining 0.07


That being said, I just looked through your history again and I'd say it is generous that I even considered 100 of the posts constructive.


I even go so far in the thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.0) to say:

Quote
Any posts you make that are anything along the lines of:
- +1
- I agree with ____
-Single random image
-Trolling/flaming
-Any other sort of spam/nonconstructive posts

will be deducted from your total, do not try to pad your post count. Constant spamming will result in you losing your right to claim payment for that month.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on November 29, 2013, 08:19:10 AM
If you read my terms I state that I am paying per constructive post. I only had issues with a few people who seemed to ONLY be posting for the sake of the promotion. In an effort to minimize useless spam and posts on the forum I put in this rule. My goal isn't to short people out of money, I was more than happy to pay over 8BTC for ads during november. When I put up this promotion my hope was that people would continue to use the forum as they would normally rather than try and game the system.


0.03 indicates having 100 constructive posts, if you can go through your history and send me a PM convincing me you've made over 100 posts of some value I'll send the remaining 0.07


That being said, I just looked through your history again and I'd say it is generous that I even considered 100 of the posts constructive.


I even go so far in the thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.0) to say:

Quote
Any posts you make that are anything along the lines of:
- +1
- I agree with ____
-Single random image
-Trolling/flaming
-Any other sort of spam/nonconstructive posts

will be deducted from your total, do not try to pad your post count. Constant spamming will result in you losing your right to claim payment for that month.
Well then, it would appear you are quite selective with your marking. I am happy to compose a list of people currently on your payroll who post pure shit and still seem to receive payment.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Tulak on November 29, 2013, 08:20:43 AM
you done bitching jabbatheslut?

you get the btc for free, so stfu already


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on November 29, 2013, 08:22:58 AM
you done bitching jabbatheslut?

you get the btc for free, so stfu already
Thanks for your input.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Tulak on November 29, 2013, 08:23:55 AM
You are welcome. And another useless post. you just proved what stunna said :D :D


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on November 29, 2013, 08:25:47 AM
You are welcome. And another useless post. you just proved what stunna said :D :D
If you're done trolling now, can you please fuck off?


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: AuroraHF on November 29, 2013, 10:21:39 AM
You are welcome. And another useless post. you just proved what stunna said :D :D
If you're done trolling now, can you please fuck off?

Why are you so angry if you're the one who is at fault, feel free to close this thread because you're only proving to everyone what an idiot you are.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on November 29, 2013, 11:07:09 AM
You are welcome. And another useless post. you just proved what stunna said :D :D
If you're done trolling now, can you please fuck off?

Why are you so angry if you're the one who is at fault, feel free to close this thread because you're only proving to everyone what an idiot you are.
I'm not at fault. I simply want what is owed to me.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: AuroraHF on November 29, 2013, 11:09:25 AM
You are welcome. And another useless post. you just proved what stunna said :D :D
If you're done trolling now, can you please fuck off?

Why are you so angry if you're the one who is at fault, feel free to close this thread because you're only proving to everyone what an idiot you are.
I'm not at fault. I simply want what is owed to me.

Like Stunna said, you can him and show him that you have constructive posts. I personally looked through your posts and it's not constructive at all.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Ravocado on November 29, 2013, 11:11:36 AM
Stunna pays, Stunna sets the rules...you obviously didn't follow them. It's easy as that. Sooner you realize that, better for you. For your nerves and your health...stress isn't good for you.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on November 29, 2013, 12:50:31 PM
Can we perhaps have an objective point of view rather than people eager to please stunna.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: ajax3592 on November 29, 2013, 06:17:34 PM
Trust me bro. Last month, Stunna payed me the exact amount he owed me.


Though I have to say I worked ~15 hours a day for 10 days, reading all the posts in a thread and then replying what adds to the ongoing conversation. I only took up topics/threads that were of interest to me or the subjects which were of knowledge to me. Also, I fell in the 250-500 slab and gave extra 30-40 posts above 250 to make sure in the worst-case scenario even if there are 1% posts in that Stunna doesn't likes I still get the money. I have a passion for Bitcoin and am in hunt for my first Bitcoin and PD sigs are genuine way to reach there, period.

Do try once again with him, with full dedication.
Good Luck
 :)

P.S - Consider yourself at his place, you own a website, would you randomly splatter big money to everyone irrespective of whether they contribute to your advertisement or not?


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: marcovaldo on November 29, 2013, 08:21:40 PM
Stunna should explains more clearly what he describes as "constructive" and what is not


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Jabbatheslutt on November 30, 2013, 12:31:00 AM
Trust me bro. Last month, Stunna payed me the exact amount he owed me.


Though I have to say I worked ~15 hours a day for 10 days, reading all the posts in a thread and then replying what adds to the ongoing conversation. I only took up topics/threads that were of interest to me or the subjects which were of knowledge to me. Also, I fell in the 250-500 slab and gave extra 30-40 posts above 250 to make sure in the worst-case scenario even if there are 1% posts in that Stunna doesn't likes I still get the money. I have a passion for Bitcoin and am in hunt for my first Bitcoin and PD sigs are genuine way to reach there, period.

Do try once again with him, with full dedication.
Good Luck
 :)

P.S - Consider yourself at his place, you own a website, would you randomly splatter big money to everyone irrespective of whether they contribute to your advertisement or not?
Thing is though, I did what i was supposed to do and got less than half of what i was meant to receive.

Stunna should explains more clearly what he describes as "constructive" and what is not
Exactly.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Shallow on November 30, 2013, 04:42:13 AM
I too only got half of what i was supposed to!
Stunna pay me the 0.1 please!


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: hilariousandco on November 30, 2013, 05:52:56 PM
Can we perhaps have an objective point of view rather than people eager to please stunna.

I can try give you one. Maybe it's wise that users enquire about what exactly constitutes a "constructive post" before they take the deal, or perhaps Stunna could provide a bit more info on what he classes as constructive as to avoid problems like this, but I think it's pretty self-explanatory.  I had a look over your posts and they are on the short side and at the very most consist entirely of one short sentence. The only time you have posted more than one sentence is in this thread. I can understand your frustration as I would be annoyed if I didn't get what I felt I'd put in, but I also wouldn't expect to get paid out in full if I was just making 4-5 word sentences and not saying anything of value etc. If we're going by the definition of Constructive being: "having or intended to have a useful or beneficial purpose" then I personally don't think you've made enough posts to qualify for full payment, as others have said. Instead of calling him out as a scammer here, you could've learned from your experience and participated again in this months lot and upped your game and collected your full earnings.

An easy way to make constructive posts is to help out beginners and answer their questions in the newb forum. There's always a constant supply of problems and issues people need a hand with so it's easy to do. Helping out people, as well of warning of potential scams/scammers, will only boost your rep on here which can't be a bad thing.





Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: thecoinjournal on December 01, 2013, 01:47:25 PM
Trust me bro. Last month, Stunna payed me the exact amount he owed me.


Though I have to say I worked ~15 hours a day for 10 days, reading all the posts in a thread and then replying what adds to the ongoing conversation. I only took up topics/threads that were of interest to me or the subjects which were of knowledge to me. Also, I fell in the 250-500 slab and gave extra 30-40 posts above 250 to make sure in the worst-case scenario even if there are 1% posts in that Stunna doesn't likes I still get the money. I have a passion for Bitcoin and am in hunt for my first Bitcoin and PD sigs are genuine way to reach there, period.

Do try once again with him, with full dedication.
Good Luck
 :)

P.S - Consider yourself at his place, you own a website, would you randomly splatter big money to everyone irrespective of whether they contribute to your advertisement or not?

From my personal experience, Stunna is provable fair.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: BadBear on December 02, 2013, 09:15:59 AM
Personally I'd like to thank Stunna for not paying these spammers.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: Ruzka on December 03, 2013, 05:50:01 PM
I think you were lucky to even get the .03, Stunna really doesn't owe you anything.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: galbros on December 04, 2013, 02:49:48 AM
Stunna paid me what he owed me for my posts, actually he's done so twice now.

I get your point about constructive being a subjective term, but he does make clear he is the judge of what will count and what wont.  If those terms are not acceptable to you, you should choose a different signature sponsor, which it looks like you've done.

Constructive is defined as serving a useful purpose.  So the suggestion to help newbies in the newbie section is a great one.


Title: Re: Stunna fails to uphold sig ad amount
Post by: U1TRA_L0RD on January 01, 2014, 06:03:57 AM
From what I heard Stunna never fails and the only one failing is the one trying to dupe him out of his money.