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Title: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: Tomatocage on November 30, 2013, 05:22:50 PM
Surely this forum didn't exist before Bitcoin was announced. So I'm curious where Satoshi first released Bitcoin. Anybody know?


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: matte99 on November 30, 2013, 05:29:28 PM
I think it was in a mailing list about cryptography


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: ruletheworld on November 30, 2013, 05:33:38 PM
The cypherpunk mailing list. It (used to) has some of the best names in cryptography. And the requirement is, "you should write code!"
The cypherpunk movement has given us gems like PGP, Tor, and now Bitcoin. Their ideas about privacy and information snooping are eerily prescient two decades after they were formulated.


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on November 30, 2013, 05:36:09 PM
I believe (not 100% positive) this is the first announcement of Bitcoin using the word "Bitcoin".  Satoshi may have posted earlier possibly under another psuedonym and not using the word Bitcoin (speaking in general terms about p2p cash) but that would be pretty hard to track down.   Note the date, the whitepaper was published roughly a year two months before the first client and genesis block.  Interestingly Satoshi must have decided on the name by August 2008 because that is when bitcoin.org was registered.

Satoshi Nakamoto Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:16:33 -0700
Quote
I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully
peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party.

The paper is available at:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

The main properties:
 Double-spending is prevented with a peer-to-peer network.
 No mint or other trusted parties.
 Participants can be anonymous.
 New coins are made from Hashcash style proof-of-work.
 The proof-of-work for new coin generation also powers the
    network to prevent double-spending.

Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

Abstract.  A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would
allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another
without the burdens of going through a financial institution.
Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main
benefits are lost if a trusted party is still required to prevent
double-spending.  We propose a solution to the double-spending
problem using a peer-to-peer network.  The network timestamps
transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based
proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without
redoing the proof-of-work.  The longest chain not only serves as
proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came
from the largest pool of CPU power.  As long as honest nodes control
the most CPU power on the network, they can generate the longest
chain and outpace any attackers.  The network itself requires
minimal structure.  Messages are broadcasted on a best effort basis,
and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the
longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they
were gone.

Full paper at:
http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

Satoshi Nakamoto

http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09959.html



Some more dates from the early history
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/History

Fun fact the first recorded exchange rate was 1309 BTC per USD.  That would be worth ~$1.5 million today.  Lots of people talk about the million dollar pizza but this first trader only got a buck. :)


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: waxwing on November 30, 2013, 05:36:20 PM
Here:

https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09959.html

As you can see, it was 1 Nov 2008, not 5 Nov as some people think would be better :)


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on November 30, 2013, 05:40:38 PM
Here:

https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09959.html

As you can see, it was 1 Nov 2008, not 5 Nov as some people think would be better :)

Well 31 OCT if you count encryption usenet.

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.general/12588/


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: btcperth on December 01, 2013, 10:55:23 AM
Well 31 OCT if you count encryption usenet.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.general/12588/

just a thought... the timestamp in that msg is 2008-10-31 18:10:00 GMT

If it was sent from Japan for example, this would mean it was actually sent on 1-Nov Japan time => GMT+9 hrs = 3:10 AM


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: revans on December 01, 2013, 02:21:50 PM
Surely this forum didn't exist before Bitcoin was announced. So I'm curious where Satoshi first released Bitcoin. Anybody know?

Some time after having helped himself to a massive chunk of the Bitcoin monetary base.


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: ruletheworld on December 01, 2013, 02:31:56 PM
Surely this forum didn't exist before Bitcoin was announced. So I'm curious where Satoshi first released Bitcoin. Anybody know?

Some time after having helped himself to a massive chunk of the Bitcoin monetary base.
Huh??


Title: Re: Where did Satoshi first announce Bitcoin?
Post by: justusranvier on December 02, 2013, 02:43:41 AM
Surely this forum didn't exist before Bitcoin was announced. So I'm curious where Satoshi first released Bitcoin. Anybody know?

Some time after having helped himself to a massive chunk of the Bitcoin monetary base.
Huh??
Just Ignore the troll.

As mentioned above, Satoshi announce Bitcoin a couple months before mining started in early January 2009 (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block).