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Title: How to use PGP
Post by: charleshoskinson on December 03, 2013, 09:23:52 AM
Because it seems to be necessary these days:

http://youtu.be/xKDk3l6nRc4

enjoy and let me know if you have any questions


Title: Re: How to use PGP
Post by: justusranvier on December 03, 2013, 09:27:10 AM
Mailvelope has problems, like not handling messages that are encrypted to multiple recipients.

A more feature-complete solution is to use Thunderbird: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bakOKJFtB-k


Title: Re: How to use PGP
Post by: charleshoskinson on December 03, 2013, 09:29:37 AM
I've gone through the source and there is nothing wrong with openpgp.js or mailvelope. The extension works just fine for the use case of sending an encrypted email to someone. I like the simplicity and the efficiency of PGP. Asking people to install an entire desktop mail client for something they are probably only going to do once in a blue moon is a bit much in my opinion.

I agree mailvelope isn't complete and needs signing functionality. I will implement it myself if they don't by the end of the month.


Title: Re: How to use PGP
Post by: justusranvier on December 03, 2013, 09:32:53 AM
Asking people to install an entire desktop mail client for something they are probably only going to do once in a blue moon is a bit much in my opinion.
That's exactly the problem. If you use something like Mailvelope you'll only use encryption once in a blue moon because it's not feature-complete.

If you transition your email workflow to full featured-clients you'll use encryption more often, and discover the gaps in Mailvelope's feature set when you send an encrypted email out to three people and everybody can read it except the Mailvelope user.


Title: Re: How to use PGP
Post by: charleshoskinson on December 03, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
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That's exactly the problem. If you use something like Mailvelope you'll only use encryption once in a blue moon because it's not feature-complete.

If you transition your email workflow to full featured-clients you'll use encryption more often, and discover the gaps in Mailvelope's feature set when you send an encrypted email out to three people and everybody can read it except the Mailvelope user.

Mailvelope will be able to replicate the entire feature set of any desktop client within a year and I am going to implement an optional deterministic keygen for better keypair portability. We've had wonderful, full featured clients for over ten years for PGP and less than 0.1 percent of all email traffic is encrypted. I want a mainstream product that many people will use.

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If you use something like Mailvelope you'll only use encryption once in a blue moon because it's not feature-complete.

This just isn't true. Sometimes you need to do something like email a password or private information to a friend. I don't want to spend half an hour telling them how to configure an email client to use PGP. Everybody want the batteries included. I can have an encrypted convo with my friends using mailvelope without an issues at all. Yes I can't do multiparty nor can I sign. These will be corrected soon enough.