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Title: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jamesashmore1964 on May 08, 2018, 05:14:33 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: freesia_pnp888 on May 08, 2018, 06:11:27 PM
Down, my bet


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Xester on May 09, 2018, 08:49:20 AM

This is not a regrettable action if bitcoins price will stable due to the low value of bitcoin futures on CME this will have a positive impact on bitcoin. This would mean that people could buy more bitcoins at a lower value without fearing tremendous downfall of value. This could also mean that the whales will have no choice but to sell their coins and the masses will buy it. This could lead into a mass distribution of bitcoin and this could mean that no more dumps in the market since the whales will have only less bitcoin. With this trend the future of bitcoin will have no choice but just to go up in value.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: bitmover on May 09, 2018, 12:19:50 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

Bitcoin is not that fragile, and Futures have low volume compared to BTC.

If you Bitcoin can't survive being listed as a future, well, sell it then.

Bitcoin has survived many death attempts already.
Bitcoin will keep up growing wildly without a central planner.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Name: Claudio on May 09, 2018, 12:25:24 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

Bitcoin is not that fragile, and Futures have low volume compared to BTC.

If you Bitcoin can't survive being listed as a future, well, sell it then.

Bitcoin has survived many death attempts already.
Bitcoin will keep up growing wildly without a central planner.

I agree with you, Bitcoin alone will stand in case all other altcoin will be 'dead Zero' (but I'm not hopping it to happen), Bitcoin will be the last standing on all exchanges, I bet you that, Bitcoin will survive and be used in further more like Fiat.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Dluretic on May 09, 2018, 12:38:33 PM
Bitcoin is not going to die.
If bitcoin dies, then all altcoin will lose their value, which is also a nightmare for the whale.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Mr Bhuiyan on May 09, 2018, 06:31:08 PM
Bitcoin is not that fragile, and Futures have low volume compared to BTC.Bitcoin is not going to die.Bitcoin will be the last standing on all exchanges, I bet you that, Bitcoin will survive and be used in further more like Fiat.Bitcoin will keep up growing wildly without a central planner.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Venn Harris on May 10, 2018, 12:22:21 PM
A high-yielding currency, a lower transaction fee than Bitcoin will appear? This money will replace Bitcoin? In fact, Bitcoin will be defeated when the economic benefits are no longer good. For management purposes and economic benefits, the idea of issuing a UN-backed global currency is under review. But in the next five years, the author believes that this will remain an idea on paper. When your competitors compete with Bitcoin, the bitcoin will collapse.
 :D


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: SUDARMONO on May 10, 2018, 01:46:29 PM
I do not agree with you, bitcoin will always be more advanced and widely used to transact trading and price will increase higher and will really be the currency of the future.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: PG13 on May 10, 2018, 01:52:16 PM
Bitcoin is not going to die.
If bitcoin dies, then all altcoin will lose their value, which is also a nightmare for the whale.
you have a point mate, this is now a growing business considering how huge the money flowing in the cryptomarket. If this will end those businessman and investors will not want that to happen. Indeed, They will use all their leverage to keep this going.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Quicksilver143 on May 10, 2018, 01:54:54 PM
Id you're a real beliver of bitcoin you will keep your trust in it. Others will not buy because they cant sacrifice something, if you really wants to get the thing you want you must sacrifice something.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: maianh09 on May 10, 2018, 01:57:34 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down
In the future there will be a lot of money to increase strength, and maybe the opponent beat Bitcoin. But does this mean that Bitcoin will survive, not have anything to destroy Bitcoin? Bitcoin is profitable for investors. They will still care about it and promote its development.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: pxo.011 on May 10, 2018, 01:58:11 PM
well i have faith in bitcoin if you were trying to manipulate people by your theory maybe you can fool some but not all of the people. bitcoin is still last long until it has a blockchain.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: pxo.011 on May 10, 2018, 02:01:30 PM
well i have faith in bitcoin if you were trying to manipulate people by your theory maybe you can fool some but not all of the people. bitcoin is still last long until it has a blockchain.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Doni Ariyanto on May 10, 2018, 02:02:52 PM
It's a nightmare if it's going to happen. But I'm sure bitcoin will not die and I think bitcoin will continue to grow in the future.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: AVAMONEY on May 10, 2018, 02:03:57 PM
If the CME keeps the price at a low lines, do you think the Bitcoin market at other exchanges has no effect on the price?

This is not a regrettable action if bitcoins price will stable due to the low value of bitcoin futures on CME this will have a positive impact on bitcoin. This would mean that people could buy more bitcoins at a lower value without fearing tremendous downfall of value. This could also mean that the whales will have no choice but to sell their coins and the masses will buy it. This could lead into a mass distribution of bitcoin and this could mean that no more dumps in the market since the whales will have only less bitcoin. With this trend the future of bitcoin will have no choice but just to go up in value.
I would be agree with how this will makes those distribution going to all the people, not only dominating by few whales who controlling the price.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jseverson on May 10, 2018, 02:13:34 PM
How exactly does it destroy Bitcoin? I look at it as dipping one's toes into the market. It's also a fairly common sentiment that futures trading legitimizes Bitcoin in a sense. Some banks are even talking about opening up trading desks, which would be the natural next step.

What's for sure is that interest in Bitcoin is only growing, and I think that at the very least, Bitcoin futures help growth on that end.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: MasterCATZ on May 10, 2018, 02:14:13 PM
bitcoin is still a very complex system for investment. I think that it will be much easier with time and such questions will cease to arise


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: 10c on May 10, 2018, 02:20:53 PM
I think it's as unlikely as possible. I think that over time, this market will become much easier and more profitable than at the moment


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: CarylnBoy on May 10, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
I think that's unlikely to happen, since the demand for bitcoin is increasing, and it's becoming increasingly popular, so I'm sure bitcoin will not die and I think bitcoin will continue to grow in the future hybrid.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: GDragon on May 10, 2018, 02:31:58 PM
Give me some explanation nonsense poser. Actually I am not fond of a poser without any bases or proof or more likely getting speculation and assumptions.  So get lost or else somebody make your realize that you are not belong to this world.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: m.mendoza on May 10, 2018, 02:33:06 PM
I do not agree that the future will be destroy by bitcoin because nowadays there are investors who still invest because the value of bitcoin gets higher and sometimes lower. There are predictions that bitcoin will be banned in the future and unfortunately its a wrong prediction. have faith in bitcoin if you were trying to manipulate people by your theory maybe you can fool some but not all of the people. bitcoin is still last long until it has a blockchain.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Faithgg on May 11, 2018, 12:05:55 PM
An attack is an attack on an application created on the Bitcoin protocol.
When attacked in 2014, Mt. Gox holds 70% of Bitcoin.
Four years after this historic attack, we witnessed hundreds of other active exchanges.
If one of these transaction platforms is attacked and a large amount of Bitcoin is stolen, Bitcoin prices will be shaken.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Schirer on May 11, 2018, 12:25:10 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

You could say that this is partly true. Till now , it could have been negative impact to BTC.
But in hte long run it could stabilase the price and there could be other significant news in the future as new markets opening and then the futures impact will be less.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: LoyceV on May 11, 2018, 12:31:41 PM
If futures could destroy Bitcoin, it would have destroyed the traditional stock market a long time ago. It didn't.

I look at it as dipping one's toes into the market. It's also a fairly common sentiment that futures trading legitimizes Bitcoin in a sense. Some banks are even talking about opening up trading desks, which would be the natural next step.
I consider futures trading just a stepping stone for many more trading options in a much larger market. And that's why I don't necessarily think regulation is a bad thing, conventional trading markets can't trade unregulated assets.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Ken Kamaruddin on May 11, 2018, 12:37:56 PM
futures essentially not trade but more to gambling. do you think of trading transactions but you are likely to lose and win from two sides of the different price movements? you like a broker, the price up or down you still have a chance to win. and it's not a trade.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: nickmax on May 11, 2018, 12:46:06 PM

I do not think futures are a threat to bitcoin. Last year, one of the main thrusts to growth were just futures. The recession that was today is just the beginning, there may still be a drop, but in the long run everything will be fine.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jennygamilo on May 11, 2018, 12:52:32 PM
I think this may happen because our world is under the power of technology, and it may be as our world progresses in the field of technology, and that means there may be something more beautiful than bitcoin and yoon as it says the bitcoin can worsen the future


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jamesashmore1964 on May 11, 2018, 12:54:18 PM
I think this may happen because our world is under the power of technology, and it may be as our world progresses in the field of technology, and that means there may be something more beautiful than bitcoin and yoon as it says the bitcoin can worsen the future

These are the words of someone who bought BTC early!
Tell your story to those that are in the RED!


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: wqwbhmjc on May 11, 2018, 12:54:40 PM
A few years ago, there were futures. I think futures will have a long-term effect on bitcoin, but it is hard to destroy bitcoins in a short time.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: wall101 on May 11, 2018, 12:55:01 PM
I think that bitcoin will not be destroyed in the future because it is so much today that it helps and certainly more people will be able to help it in the future.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jamesashmore1964 on May 11, 2018, 12:55:22 PM
futures essentially not trade but more to gambling. do you think of trading transactions but you are likely to lose and win from two sides of the different price movements? you like a broker, the price up or down you still have a chance to win. and it's not a trade.

Both work in tandem: Bitch


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: darkangel11 on May 11, 2018, 01:02:57 PM
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!

And what was the price before the launch of futures? 5k USD? Let's face it, the futures were one of the factors that contributed to the last pump and the price is still significantly higher than before. So thanks to all the development (and that includes wall street) we were able to see BTC worth 20k USD and are set at the price between 6 and 10 K USD, which at worst scenario is still pretty good. I'd be fine with BTC setting at 10k USD for years, I don't need to be a millionaire ;)


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: traged on May 11, 2018, 01:05:36 PM
Futures have not destroyed stock market, they wont destroy Bitcoin either. I seriously think that what we see today is the last huge dip of this year...


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Reid on May 11, 2018, 01:10:34 PM
You must be new and didnt know the history of bitcoin.
You better look at it first before making that kind of forecast which could just lead to supporters here bombarding you with bashes.

Bitcoin will always be bitcoin and it should be the only one. Anything that uses its name should be considered as fake or people attempting to separate investors for their own greedy reasons.
They should go to prison actually.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: digaran2 on May 11, 2018, 01:13:12 PM
I think it will not happen because  it's becoming increasingly popular and the demand for bitcoin is increasing. if btc die, all other altcoins will die also!


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jamesashmore1964 on May 11, 2018, 01:32:09 PM
I think that's unlikely to happen, since the demand for bitcoin is increasing, and it's becoming increasingly popular, so I'm sure bitcoin will not die and I think bitcoin will continue to grow in the future hybrid.


The demand is somewhat lacking today!


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jamesashmore1964 on May 11, 2018, 01:35:13 PM
Give me some explanation nonsense poser. Actually I am not fond of a poser without any bases or proof or more likely getting speculation and assumptions.  So get lost or else somebody make your realize that you are not belong to this world.

The dragon has spoken in Pidgeon English!
Good luck son!


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: andrew1carlssin on May 11, 2018, 01:35:37 PM
technicality speaking..  futures does not have volume ... only interest rate  


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: RodeoX on May 11, 2018, 01:37:22 PM
If something could destroy bitcoin then it should destroy bitcoin. But I see no path for futures doing anything except maybe reducing volatility.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Free1bitco.in on May 11, 2018, 01:57:46 PM
I do not agree with you, bitcoin will always be more advanced and widely used to transact trading and price will increase higher and will really be the currency of the future.
yes ... I agree with you, bitcoin will always exist and will never die, people will always use bitcoin popularity of bitcoin is increasing


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Juggy777 on May 11, 2018, 01:57:54 PM
I don't think so this happened because of futures alone, I don't think there is any major impact by them that brought the prices down. The major reason is the sentiments are down, google searches are down, overall the community seems to have cold feet over bitcoins which is sad. I'm sure things will improve in the long run but currently we can't do much but wait and watch.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: tokexchain on May 11, 2018, 02:01:59 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

The BTC futures markets have been around for quite some time, if you are brave enough to take part and have a go, you can do very well over a short or long time term, of course it can go the other way too. In that, I do not think the futures markets affect the BTC price much really, of course there are peaks and troughs, it is all about being on the right side of them...


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: richan on May 11, 2018, 02:03:53 PM
I don't see why you think Bitcoin Futures listing on CME will make the price low. It will strengthen the prices rather. People that bets on financial instruments like stocks and other assets are betters and not trader. Traders can utilize the Bitcoin future prices to hedge their holdings.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Marcsymon on May 11, 2018, 02:07:41 PM
Bitcoin is not going to die.
If bitcoin dies, then all altcoin will lose their value, which is also a nightmare for the whale.

I think bitcoin will never dies. But maybe in the future bitcoin will spreading its popularity throughout the world, and will not destroyed but rather keep on increasing because of the huge demands that bring big whale eagerness adaption on it.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Kocret02 on May 11, 2018, 02:10:39 PM
Bitcoin is not going to die.
If bitcoin dies, then all altcoin will lose their value, which is also a nightmare for the whale.

I think bitcoin will never dies. But maybe in the future bitcoin will spreading its popularity throughout the world, and will not destroyed but rather keep on increasing because of the huge demands that bring people in the community eagerness adaption on it.
bitcoin will increase in value it will happen, because with a limited supply and nowadays bitcoin experiencing high demand will be very difficult if the future will destroy bitcoin. it will not happen and just speculation.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: codpku on May 11, 2018, 02:11:04 PM
Futures destroyed bitcoin? I don't agree with you, bitcoin is the future
Future that has come to fast
I believe in near future bitcoin and all the system around it such a wallet, exchange and mining web will improve and get better in security


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: lamcouz on May 11, 2018, 02:13:02 PM
I think that in future out of all the variety of crypto currency will remain only a dozen coins. It will be: Ripple, NEM, bitcoin, ETH and some others. The remaining coins will disappear, since they are not needed. Currently, many coins simply copy each other. This is wrong and should not be for so long.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: zolfa on May 11, 2018, 03:02:25 PM
bitcoin will always persist, when many bitcoin users, then make bitcoin become strong and will survive in a long time, bitcoin value will continue high in the future.

I think only the primitive people who do not know the growth of bitcoin. they will only get regret after bitcoin $ 1000000


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: bitmover on May 11, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
There are many institutions like pension funds, hedge funds, multimarket funds, etc which want but cannot buy bitcoin directly.

But they could buy a future. Or an ETF.


T His is why futures and ETFs are important right now. They are the first step to institutional money.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: ThePunisher49X on May 11, 2018, 03:35:54 PM
Why were futures allowed on such a volatile like bitcoin in the first place? :-\

The Winklevoss twins are banking on an ETF for bitcoin since they started their own exchange years ago.
So you know this will eventually happen if it has not already and just not publicized yet. ::)


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: qwirtiii on May 12, 2018, 08:51:00 AM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

That is possible that Bitcoin can have LOW price in the future . But still, thats possible NOT sure so why we are scared to happen that future.

For me ,I just enjoying working on this and get more knowledge to know this more.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Enoch Lewis on May 13, 2018, 03:51:50 AM
In the future, the government can not control Bitcoin because its working currency is decentralized. However, with their powers, governments can control and restrict the use of Bitcoin. For example, the government may force banks to stop providing services to cryptocurrency-related companies, or banning commercial activities in this area. But if the ban only appears in a single country, the effect on the entire cryptocurrency market is minimal. Because businesses can move their operations to countries with cryptocurrency-friendly policies such as Japan, Australia ...


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Boov on May 13, 2018, 08:01:41 AM
No one can ever predict weather bitcoin'c price will go up and down, all you can do is bet , nothing more or nothing less,, but if we will going to base it to its previous performance  plus its popularity or attention it's getting right now, I can say that bitcoin's value will go up , it will not maintain its current price or be backed at less that 1000 dollars.  In a far future no one will know weather bitcoin will be boom or not .


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Sum24 on May 13, 2018, 09:10:16 AM
A few years ago, there were futures. I think futures will have a long-term effect on bitcoin, but it is hard to destroy bitcoins in a short time.
Not only in short time but after long time as well it is very hard infect it is impossible to destroy bitcoin, we should share our good story with other people and we should encourage people for using bitcoin and investing in bitcoin so they will not be afraid of future according to the bitcoin, right now they are investing and spreading knowledge about bitcoin so destruction of bitcoin in near future is quite impossible.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: LoyceV on May 13, 2018, 10:10:54 AM
If something could destroy bitcoin then it should destroy bitcoin. But I see no path for futures doing anything except maybe reducing volatility.
How would futures lead to stability? As far as I understand futures, it's mainly short-term price speculation. That leads to either going long or short, which means either buying or selling now, and doing the opposite when you close the position.
Add some stop losses to the equation, and there's a huge positive feedback loop that increases volatility.
Unless I miss something here, in that case please correct me.

I'd be fine with BTC setting at 10k USD for years, I don't need to be a millionaire ;)
I wound't mind being a millionaire though ;)


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Crypdon on May 13, 2018, 10:21:13 AM
It has already been reported in various articles that futures has destroyed bitcoin prices. This is one of the things that needs to be improved before mainstream adoption i.e. the volatility so we don't have those major swings any more.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: troglobait on May 13, 2018, 10:23:08 AM
In my opinion, now the reputation of bitcoin is a bit spoiled. After the fall, bitcoin does not recover, and many bought it for 20,000 and lost a lot of money. Personally, I believe in the biton. But I really want to see good growth.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Spanopohlo on May 13, 2018, 10:31:48 AM
Well the future BItcoin will hold its price at its low level which is a good thing, for users to buy them on the market. But, To have no value at all is very disagreeable, even if bitcoin loses its value as the top coin in the market, it still have its own value not that high but still making its way through the market. HAving the top seat as the major coin and as reference to others makes it really questionable whether BTC will be dead in the future


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Kethek on May 13, 2018, 10:36:32 AM
it's unlikely that bitcoin will get stronger in the future as time goes by the number of investors continues to grow and many countries accept and legalize bitcoin


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: vonnyaries on May 13, 2018, 10:38:44 AM
if the popularity of the bitcoin will go down i think the price will go down too, and we can see from other factor like the rival of bitcoin, if the rival of bitcoin is created that has the more advantages than bitcoin i think the bitcoin demand will go down and people who using bitcoin will changes into another platform


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: bitadviser on May 13, 2018, 10:39:08 AM
It wont die, it is a necessarily technology of the modern digital world, and without it we would return to the stone age, so no point to use old bank system, the future is already here, and noffing will stop it


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: nebuch on May 13, 2018, 10:43:56 AM
How much did you invest to blame bitcoin and say that future destroyed bitcoin? I guess you won't too ready to embrace the reality that life is not always in one side life is full of color. Don't plan and think in just a single view most specially if you enter to invest. By acting to invest meaning you disabled your fear and some negativity but still you should bear in mind everything are not sure until it ends. At the end you can convince yourself that you won or you loose. Anyway there is no such perfect life in this world. Take your time to recover and try and try again maybe you will hit the core of big profit in the second time.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Suguha on May 13, 2018, 12:27:11 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down
For me if the upcoming users will noy be seriuos about posting in bitcoin I bet they are the one who will destroy and make bitcoin useless but if the upcoming users will give respect and support the bitcoin then they are the users that will give bitcoin more popular, trust and believes.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: 1Referee on May 13, 2018, 02:31:50 PM
if the popularity of the bitcoin will go down i think the price will go down too, and we can see from other factor like the rival of bitcoin, if the rival of bitcoin is created that has the more advantages than bitcoin i think the bitcoin demand will go down and people who using bitcoin will changes into another platform

Are you blind?

In the last few years plenty of altcoins popped up doing things Bitcoin didn't do, which people kept hyping about, but Bitcoin didn't give a fuck. It's not about how many more features you can have over Bitcoin as altcoin, but what features you can offer that actually enjoy real world usage. Thus far the only altcoins managed doing that are Ethereum with their ICO craze and Monero offering privacy features.

Bitcoin's main features are very basic and simple, which means that altcoins have to come up with other (in demand) features to differentiate themselves. Also, altcoins form a testbase for Bitcoin. If at some point an altcoin comes up with something innovative and in demand enough, it can be implemented in Bitcoin or run on top of it as second layer. LN is the perfect example. ;)


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Musia on May 13, 2018, 07:46:40 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down
I think all future bitcoin will hold up well, at least I would like to believe, because bitcoin after the sharp drop, the same can not be restored, or you can, but you can never know.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: pixie85 on May 13, 2018, 08:20:31 PM
It wont die, it is a necessarily technology of the modern digital world, and without it we would return to the stone age, so no point to use old bank system, the future is already here, and noffing will stop it

I'm also a believer and think we are going to keep going up. Bitcoin is still in the early phase and will need at least 2 years to show its potential. If by 2020 we won't reach 20000 dollars again you can start worrying. Some of you may think that you're not early adopters but you are. You're that 0.1% of the population that knew about it before it went mainstream.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Vertex_ICO on May 13, 2018, 08:24:50 PM
I don't believe Bitcoin will die.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Traderbtcc on May 13, 2018, 08:28:11 PM
I think that's unlikely to happen, since the demand for bitcoin is increasing, and it's becoming increasingly popular, so I'm sure bitcoin will not die and I think bitcoin will continue to grow in the future hybrid.


The fact still remains, Bitcoin won't just "die".. It'll be here for a long, long time. But this doesn't change the fact that the launch of Bitcoin futures was a really bad idea. I recently came across an article that talked about how the price of bitcoin is continously suppressed by futures.

bitcoin is still a very complex system for investment. I think that it will be much easier with time and such questions will cease to arise
Bitcoin is becoming more easier and accessible to use with each passing day. This is because It's actively developed and there are more solutions being built to make it more user friendly. But these things take time.





Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: boksoon on May 13, 2018, 08:41:01 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down


There's more possibility that many people are taking advantage to BUY Bitcoin when the price is LOW, that's  opposite of what you are thinking bro. Anyway let us just comparing what other people say about this, but I'm sure they also believe that low price is more chances of getting profit after several years of waiting to trade their stock.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Stargazer on May 13, 2018, 08:43:53 PM
The futures are not affecting it, i think that you are blind.
The manipulation of the price was not  coming from the futures, it was because of a group that wanted to manipulate it.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: FrueGreads on May 13, 2018, 09:03:12 PM
The futures are not affecting it, i think that you are blind.
The manipulation of the price was not  coming from the futures, it was because of a group that wanted to manipulate it.


I must say I agree with you. Of course that those who bought futures, could have bought BTC as well. Let's not forget that the price went up a lot, just when futures were launched, and then got really low when the first futures contract ended. No one knows if it's related or not, but it is a possibility.

I don't think futures is a bad thing though, because it will eventually open road for ETFs, and that will be a completely different story, since it's something that would rally increase bitcoin price if it's ever launched.

Of course that in the end, nothing of this should matter. We want to use bitcoin and not trade it, so what I really want to see, are solutions with the lightning network, so that we can use bitcoin as a payment method. If we get real adoption, manipulation will disappear because it won't be profitable anymore.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Twinscoin2017 on May 13, 2018, 09:08:49 PM
The futures are not affecting it, i think that you are blind.
The manipulation of the price was not  coming from the futures, it was because of a group that wanted to manipulate it.


I must say I agree with you. Of course that those who bought futures, could have bought BTC as well. Let's not forget that the price went up a lot, just when futures were launched, and then got really low when the first futures contract ended. No one knows if it's related or not, but it is a possibility.

I don't think futures is a bad thing though, because it will eventually open road for ETFs, and that will be a completely different story, since it's something that would rally increase bitcoin price if it's ever launched.

Of course that in the end, nothing of this should matter. We want to use bitcoin and not trade it, so what I really want to see, are solutions with the lightning network, so that we can use bitcoin as a payment method. If we get real adoption, manipulation will disappear because it won't be profitable anymore.
Yes I agree on that, futures of bitcoin is depending on the people around that use and believe on it. If there are so many people that believe on it I believe that there are also many investors that invest on it because it is really amazing, the future will not destroy bitcoin in fact the future will make it more strong because it's economy grows day by day


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: supelle.born on May 13, 2018, 09:15:50 PM
There are several factors that impact the price of bitcoin, but if the BTC intends to be an investment fit for institutional investors, it will have to undergo several tests, such as futures


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Hazir on May 13, 2018, 09:21:09 PM
Don't hate on Futures - first of all, I doubt that bitcoin listing will have the power to significantly affect price, not now at least.
Bitcoin is volatile as it is, secondly if BTC cannot hold its ground vs. something so trivial - then it deserves to fall, really.
I think that every new way to spread Bitcoin popularity, broader base of potential investors is a good chance for community.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Nevkeke on May 13, 2018, 09:30:59 PM
Up, my bet. the use of crypto money is inevitable. bitcoin is the most valuable crypto money and a much loved investment tool. Loss of bitcoin means losing value of all cryptocurrency. and I do not think that this popularity will be lost


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: richardsNY on May 13, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
I think that every new way to spread Bitcoin popularity, broader base of potential investors is a good chance for community.

Definitely. In the end the only thing that matters is expanding Bitcoin's utility value, and futures, as insignificant or significant people think they are, do contribute towards that. On top of that, institutions aren't interested in Bitcoin itself, but just the exposure, and futures are perfect tools to obtain that exposure. Major added benefit is that institutions don't have to worry about liquidity when it comes to futures, which can't be said about exchanges with their poor order books. In all the years the order books haven't improved at all, which is actually a bad thing since large parties can't buy or unload a large number of coins without affecting the market....


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Xising on May 13, 2018, 09:47:23 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

Bitcoin is not that fragile, and Futures have low volume compared to BTC.

If you Bitcoin can't survive being listed as a future, well, sell it then.

Bitcoin has survived many death attempts already.
Bitcoin will keep up growing wildly without a central planner.

I agree. Although volatility and fragility is a common characteristic of the coins in this market. I would say that Bitcoin has grown in such a state where it can endure such negative market changes, and it can do that because of the support and the sheer value it gets from people. It's not that easy to actually take all those negative market changes while not taking a big hit in value significantly. I just believe in the fact that Bitcoin has survived so many of these negative market changes over the years and has risen to the top.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Kate_Ngubanga on May 13, 2018, 09:48:39 PM
on the contrary I think that the future is bitcoin and it is not something that would be near and long-term because it is a new era of the digital currency


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: israfil on May 14, 2018, 06:14:09 AM
I can not agree with you anytime because we are using Bitcoin that Bitcoin will always be used for more advanced and running trading, with this trend there will be no alternative to Bitcoin but only to go to standard.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: 15putriutami on May 15, 2018, 05:03:43 AM
If in the future bitcoin will fall, that possibility will disrupt the market and certainly the economy in this world will also be chaotic.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Hairpin on May 15, 2018, 08:20:33 AM
Bitcoin allows for true globalization, but how this innovative technology is implemented is ultimately, up to us.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: funtos on May 15, 2018, 09:33:32 AM
i am not sure of that,,because this is one of the technology,,so for bitcoins to be destroyed its not possible


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: bitfocus on May 15, 2018, 10:05:13 AM
I don't think so, I think immature people are trying to act like serious investors and that giving whales scope to manipulate the market.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: baho11 on May 16, 2018, 11:34:06 AM
I think It wont happen because bitcoin has a big rule nowadays and it helps a lot in our future lives . Bitcoin provides a opportunity , benifits and profits .


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: rolerVX on May 16, 2018, 11:40:45 AM
I can't see the destruction of bitcoin in the future. It wasn't shitcoin. Bitcoin is really a potential coin in the market. It was the beginning of crypto life. It will never be destroyed now and in the future.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: TheClownSong on May 16, 2018, 11:42:59 AM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

In my opinion, futures is acctually not buying or selling real bitcoin. They just buying or selling contract or paper. Its like a bet or gambling on market and they never touch real bitcoin. Its affecting on bitcoin price because when bet going bigger, its makes market panic and doing like what bet want


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: chikading2016 on May 16, 2018, 11:45:50 AM
I think It wont happen because bitcoin has a big rule nowadays and it helps a lot in our future lives . Bitcoin provides a opportunity , benifits and profits .
Yes I agree on that I believe that the future will not destroy bitcoin. future of bitcoin is maybe brighter than today, because it's economy is really rising. And everyday there are other new bitcoin believer that can maybe invest on bitcoin for good. The future of the bitcoin is really depend on us and if there are many people believe on its amazing features maybe future will not destroy bitcoin in fact it will make the bitcoin grow more stronger.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: warning_btc on May 17, 2018, 11:54:14 AM
Futures this is not future
This is trading termin, trading btc futures on commodity exchange


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: btcjocan on May 17, 2018, 11:56:51 AM
If we put basis on the fast growing economy of bitcoin, and the fast rising of its volume from the past year's till now, we can all see that the future will not really destroy bitcoin there is no advance explanation since then. The bitcoin future is unpredictable and we don't know what would happen on the bitcoin feild, there would be a great possibility that bitcoin may still growing strong in the future and it can't be destroyed.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Mofazzal840 on May 27, 2018, 01:12:20 PM
No,No,No. bitcoin is not going to die.If bitcoin dies,Allcurrency lose their value.Morever bitcoin's users are increassing day by day.So cryptocurrency's demand is step by step.So accourding to my opinion,I can stickly bitcoin would not die in future.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: gilangIDR on May 27, 2018, 01:17:30 PM
If we put basis on the fast growing economy of bitcoin, and the fast rising of its volume from the past year's till now, we can all see that the future will not really destroy bitcoin there is no advance explanation since then. The bitcoin future is unpredictable and we don't know what would happen on the bitcoin feild, there would be a great possibility that bitcoin may still growing strong in the future and it can't be destroyed.
Bitcoin does have an enthusiastic appetite and it is very influential on the growth of bitcoin. Now bitcoin is projected as a financial medium that can be used globally very easily. Bitcoin will continue to grow and become a huge financial system.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Chicryptomama on May 27, 2018, 01:37:03 PM
My bet would definitely be a down...futures will destroy Bitcoin. It's introduction into the market by CME also came with a high frequency of trading bots and algorithms..these makes short term trades to get easily eaten and opens way for so much volatility..this is evident in what we are seeing now and if these bots control about 75-80% of the market,then I feel it's time to start saying goodbye to BTC and look for the next available golden opportunity.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: mineko on May 30, 2018, 12:23:49 PM
I think bitcoin prices will rise again, and the chances of getting down is very difficult, because the bitcoin is the future for all of us, and maybe bitcoin will never die.


Title: Why bitcoin cant go up.
Post by: vitalife555 on May 30, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
It's the Chinese and all the other Asians that are to blame for that bitcoin does not want to grow. They are similar to what they eat, as disgusting as these insects.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: czhen on May 30, 2018, 12:53:56 PM
and that is a possibility and possibly not going to happen, and on the contrary Bitcoin will remain an idol of investors.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: worldsuccess01 on May 30, 2018, 01:56:17 PM
For me disagree futures cannot destroyed bitcoin because people are mostly bassless about bitcoin, as far as i know bitcoin is a big help to the poorest those interested to join.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: popoyuyun on May 30, 2018, 02:03:03 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

No one knows the bitcoin for the future. But I'm sure bitcoin will be increasingly used in the future because in the future many people want to make transactions quickly and safely. And I bet the price of bitcoin in the future will increase.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Bagaji on May 30, 2018, 02:09:06 PM
Bitcoin growth depends on its demand and supply and not the influence of futures. Bitcoin will continue to grow in market value since so many people continue to adopt bitcoin.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Crypto one on May 30, 2018, 02:09:40 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down



Price of bitcoins cannot keep falling, the downtrends will ends and new all time highs will come, you can be sure that not all investors thinks bitcoins price will keep falling forever, remember new future contracts are add to the market as the months goes by, and I doubt many today will bet on a cheaper bitcoins price in December.



Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: nguyennnhatttruongazzz on May 30, 2018, 02:13:27 PM
tôi nghĩ bitcoin là 1 đồng tiền của tương lai,việc chúng ta chưa thừa nhận đồng tiền này vì chúng ta chưa hiểu hết được chúng và có thể chúng còn nhiều bất cập. nhưng tương lai sẽ khác công nghệ sẽ phát triển hơn và người ta sẽ có những cách quản lí bitcoin. và nó sẽ được tất cả mọi người công nhận, tất nhiên là trên cả giấy tờ


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: 3philong on May 30, 2018, 02:17:53 PM
I think as long as people invest in bitcoin then the bitcoin is worth it. But do not know bitcoin will become worthless when, maybe next years, 10 years or never


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: PointHope on May 30, 2018, 02:19:06 PM
Bitcoin growth depends on its demand and supply and not the influence of futures. Bitcoin will continue to grow in market value since so many people continue to adopt bitcoin.

A good guide to Bitcoin value is to look at the network of miners and nodes. The hashing power is growing.
The bitcoin network is already the most powerful computer network in existence. A global decentralized computer network which no one government or entity can fuck with!
Serious value, imho..  8)


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: aris av on May 30, 2018, 02:31:00 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

I think bitcoin will be stronger and more used in the future, bitcoin is not a fragile coin and bitcoin in the future will be more popular.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Elderman87 on May 30, 2018, 02:36:14 PM
Bitcoin is not destroyed yet. In fact I don't see how it will ever be destroyed. There is so much going on in the crypto world today that is dependent on the survival of bitcoin. If the price of bitcoin stabilises it will become a dependable pair for other coins.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Gintama214 on May 30, 2018, 02:41:43 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

You can think about what you want but you can't change our minds and still invest with bitcoin. We believe that bitcoin is the future currency and it will increase in the future years and will be stable at a high price. This is why many people are still investing and getting into bitcoin and all of us are not regretting in investing if you back out that means that you are too afraid and don't deserve to be in here and earn with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: uray on May 30, 2018, 03:15:28 PM
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
I can understand this sentiment and it is the fact when it comes to futures, it is a pure speculative market and it does not do any good for the market when it comes to the valuations because there is no real purchase of coins rather than betting on the price at a particular time. The high volatility we used to see in the past has slowed down rapidly simply because of the future market and it is a good thing in my opinion.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jamesashmore1964 on May 30, 2018, 03:32:17 PM
Bitcoin growth depends on its demand and supply and not the influence of futures. Bitcoin will continue to grow in market value since so many people continue to adopt bitcoin.

A good guide to Bitcoin value is to look at the network of miners and nodes. The hashing power is growing.
The bitcoin network is already the most powerful computer network in existence. A global decentralized computer network which no one government or entity can fuck with!
Serious value, imho..  8)

That is why BTC is king!


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: yousuf123 on May 30, 2018, 03:33:38 PM
This is not a regrettable action if bitcoins price will stable due to the low value of bitcoin futures on CME this will have a positive impact on bitcoin. This would mean that people could buy more bitcoins at a lower value without fearing tremendous downfall of value. This could also mean that the whales will have no choice but to sell their coins and the masses will buy it.but does this mean thet bitcoin will survive. not habe anything to destroy bitcoin?  bitcoin is profitable for investors. they will still care about it and promote its development.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: ericmalik on May 30, 2018, 03:35:49 PM
I Believe bitcoin is survived.if bitcoin dies all coins will be worthless future of bitcoin is so bright.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: ClarenceDo on May 30, 2018, 06:36:30 PM
No, bitcoin will always be popular like today and it will never lose its position.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: TRON0824 on May 30, 2018, 07:27:36 PM
no one can predict the price of bitcoin . maybe yes or not . bitcoin will survive or bitcoin will die . yes they cannot manipulate bitcoin but who knows bitcoin will shutting down . because of Paper currency . but yes i believe in bitcoin hope this is our future .


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: viyumztf on May 30, 2018, 07:38:54 PM
I agree with you, indeed, since the futures entered the bitcoin market, the frequency of the market has fallen dramatically, and perhaps the futures market has amplified the volatility of the bitcoin.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: endut15 on May 30, 2018, 07:51:44 PM
I do not agree with you, bitcoin will always be more advanced and widely used to transact trading and price will increase higher and will really be the currency of the future.
agrees, indeed bitcoin it must go forward, and develop. but if for the price until now we have not been able to find out, because the price can not be determined. sometimes up and down sometimes. so we still have to be positive in thinking about bitcoin.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: BlakeMye on May 31, 2018, 05:05:37 AM
Bitcoin is the king of the crypto world if it will die then nothig will exist.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: ClintonJ on May 31, 2018, 05:19:09 AM
It is impossible to destroy bitcoin because it is now become a huge tree.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: MMS2017 on May 31, 2018, 05:26:39 AM
If we look at the future then the point will come to us that with the passage of time prices changes rapidly and it has made many things easy and convenient for us users are happy with the crypto holding and usage and i an sure that the future will good with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: mung_nasib on May 31, 2018, 07:47:30 AM
If until bitcoin suffers severe destruction, certain altcoins can also follow in their footsteps so that will cause an investor to panic because nothing can be used as a place of income.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: cahbagus555 on May 31, 2018, 08:21:27 AM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

Indeed, I am agree with your statement. CME is not like we buying real bitcoin on our wallet, its just paper or contract. I think its like gambling and thats affecting on real price.
But recently, I am reading article that wallstreet allowing their customer to buying real bitcoin and not just a contract


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Linhkej on May 31, 2018, 08:33:38 AM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down
You have been thinking too bad about Bitcoin's future. Indeed it is a very great electronic coin and it has brought blockchain technology to the world. It is currently being underestimated and the market is being manipulated. anyway, the market will recover and the price of Bitcoin will be at $ 12k again. :D


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: kier010 on May 31, 2018, 09:19:44 AM
your future is dark then. bitcoin is the root of cryptocurrency and if bitcoin will be gone crypto will suffer also. positive and negative i bet you have the negative thinking.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Blackrain13 on May 31, 2018, 09:24:51 AM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

  You are wrong because if the bitcoin price is low there is a lot of people buying it and the tendency the demand increase that makes the value of bitcoin also increase. It will not end,it is just a cycle because bitcoin is a popular digital currency all over crypto world and it will become more valuable in the future.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: GilbertQuintanilla on May 31, 2018, 06:51:34 PM
I would like to go with up and i believe it will happen very soon.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: tanjimaarfin23 on May 31, 2018, 07:13:30 PM
In future bitcoin will not destroy. This money will replace Bitcoin? In fact, Bitcoin will be defeated when the economic benefits are no longer good. For management purposes and economic benefits, the idea of issuing a UN-backed global currency is under review. But in the next five years, the author believes that this will remain an idea on paper. When your competitors compete with Bitcoin, the bitcoin will collapse.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: rizkypurwati on May 31, 2018, 07:26:07 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down
a sense of pessimism is so complex, but directly proportional to the sense of optimism that in the future bitcoin is a very valuable treasure and many people who want to have it,
who knows because every possibility has the same ratio to happen


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: laryillary on May 31, 2018, 08:04:56 PM
Prior to the introduction of bitcoin futures, large hedge funds and institutional investors had limited access to the crypto-currency market. Most of the active players were betting on the growth of the digital asset on crypto-exchanges, inflating the bubble in bitcoin and increasing the risk of collapse.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: ordeath on May 31, 2018, 10:13:39 PM
Hehhe, we can actually never know for sure, what will happen. Because bitcoin is competely unpredictable. tested on own experience


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: ir.yance on June 01, 2018, 07:12:25 PM

This is not a regrettable action if bitcoins price will stable due to the low value of bitcoin futures on CME this will have a positive impact on bitcoin. This would mean that people could buy more bitcoins at a lower value without fearing tremendous downfall of value. This could also mean that the whales will have no choice but to sell their coins and the masses will buy it. This could lead into a mass distribution of bitcoin and this could mean that no more dumps in the market since the whales will have only less bitcoin. With this trend the future of bitcoin will have no choice but just to go up in value.

yes, I agree with you, if bitcoin price will be stable then many people are not afraid to buy bitcoin. if many people are not afraid to get a loss from buying bitcoin then they will buy more bitcoin so bitcoin price will be more expensive because more buyers than sell bitcoin.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: atamat on June 06, 2018, 06:03:35 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down
This is not a regrettable action if bitcoins price will stable due to the low value of bitcoin futures on CME this will have a positive impact on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: roni12345 on June 07, 2018, 03:21:01 PM
You may right that btc will destroy. But not in near future.... There is no possibilities to happen this.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: bubblebubble on June 07, 2018, 03:23:35 PM
I agree with this statement. I noted the same.
Indeed I read that is possibile earn money by futures controlling BTC market with a little amount than the earnings generated.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: orarider on June 07, 2018, 03:34:44 PM
Incorrect. I have faith in bitcoin. Bitcoin will last long. The bitcoin price will hit $ 100,000. Many countries have adopted bitcoin and encouraged people to use it. The future of bitcoin will be the common currency of the world.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: wave1002012 on June 07, 2018, 03:55:55 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

Actually most of the people are thinking negative about bitcoin due to its successive fluctuation but i think this cannot affect that may cause to destroyed the future of bitcoin because i still believe bitcoin will still able to recover in the right time.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Bitdressa on June 07, 2018, 03:59:39 PM
I think this will not be destroyed, this is the latest evolution in business in this modern era. which is likely to grow rapidly among the people, the majority of whom are workers.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Anamika143 on June 07, 2018, 08:10:51 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down
I do not believe that the quality of bitcoin will fall in the future. Because the use of Bitcoin is increasing every time. Bitcoin spreads around the world. Bitcoin prices will increase further due to its popularity. Bitcoin sales will not be reduced in the future, but its sales will increase further.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: shkwarka333 on June 07, 2018, 08:33:03 PM
Here I agree with the author , in my opinion they are twins themselves decided what to do. it's their business , maybe they see a benefit that others don't see.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Dico88 on June 15, 2018, 07:50:37 PM
I do not think there's a big impact that keeps the price down. Down sentiment or google search is down with the whole community it seems to have cold feet on a sad bitcoin. In the long run it will improve and we can not do much more than just wait and monitor all the bitcoin movements in the global market. 8)


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Moonspel on June 15, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
When only bitcoin futures appeared all the news channels said how good it is. The reality turned out to be quite the opposite. I agree with you.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: nickwen on June 15, 2018, 08:16:07 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down
I still believe that the price of bitcoin will increase in the future. Most people call bitcoin the king of the crypto market. There are also lots of BTC trading pairs on the exchanges. So bitcoin will always be important to us


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: dinar99 on June 18, 2018, 10:50:36 AM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

Yes, I agree with you, Bitcoin alone will stand up if all other altcoin will die. Bitcoin will be the last one standing on all exchanges, I am sure it is, Bitcoin will survive and be used further like Fiat. That's in my opinion.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: crossabdd on June 18, 2018, 11:21:30 AM
yes, i think that's also a bet. but this is trading, if you think this is a bet, all trade in the world is a bet. you see only the fluctuating Bitcoin price and the fast crypto currency. while real goods have stable prices but keep up and down. I keep seeing this is a trade and bitcoin will remain in bought and sold in a long time.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: genuin on June 18, 2018, 11:32:31 AM
do not predict the price with just such an issue. the situation can be shaped through the issue and can change the price of bitcoin. I use bitcoin from 2012 so I can talk like this and know about the development of bitcoin in the present era


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Kimchu kuno on June 18, 2018, 12:46:31 PM
I think that's unlikely to happen, since the demand for bitcoin is increasing, and it's becoming increasingly popular, so I'm sure bitcoin will not die and I think bitcoin will continue to grow in the future hybrid.


Our future depends in our personal character itself on how we brought up to the world of new technology and how to roll over bitcoin currency,  by doing such good investment our property will increase and build strong enough foundation to face the future.  I am in favor that bitcoin will makes my life more meaningful in financial needs hoping it will continue to serve people in many more decades.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: alyssa85 on June 18, 2018, 12:49:44 PM
Futures will only have destroyed bitcoin if some of the players were manipulating the underlying market as well.

As in, make a big leveraged bet on the futures market, and then dump real coins in the underlying market, hoping the underlying market is more liquid and easier to manipulate.

But to make that work they would have had to have acquired a lot of coins at a below $6000 price so that they're in the money whatever they do.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Angela28 on June 18, 2018, 01:20:40 PM
I do not think so. Future bitcoins will be developed and there will be more positive changes as we think, if you like bitcoin then you can make them grow more as they are now.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: dragontigear on June 18, 2018, 01:34:22 PM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

I believe bitcoin did not destroyed the future and huge fluctuation is made up by many people want to destruct its image the market and also bitcoin already done a lot of help too many people world wide by providing a better source of income.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Gotumoot on June 18, 2018, 01:51:46 PM
do not predict the price with just such an issue. the situation can be shaped through the issue and can change the price of bitcoin. I use bitcoin from 2012 so I can talk like this and know about the development of bitcoin in the present era
Yes thats right. Wrong speculations can lead to wrong informations. They're just saying that because they're just new to bitcoin, unlike us that is long in bitcoin, we can say this because we know what bitcoin capable of, and we are  going through this for many years, and still bitcoin with us until now, and proved them wrong. They can sell their bitcoin now, but regret it later, because bitcoin will rise again, not now but later, maybe before the year ends.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: Peter Coresi on June 18, 2018, 02:01:34 PM
The futures are not affecting it, i think that you are blind.  :) The manipulation of the price was not  coming from the futures, it was because of a group that wanted to manipulate it.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: maikala on July 03, 2018, 03:04:50 AM
BTC is a pretty big coin, it is he vu of the market, bitcoin will have considerable influence on price, not now at least.
Bitcoin is volatile as it is, secondly if BTC can not hold its ground against something trivial.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: jchav010101 on July 03, 2018, 03:13:12 AM
Bitcoin futures markets have been around for quite some time.If we are brave enough to take part and have a go,we can do very well over a short or long time term.It can go the other way too.I do not think the futures markets affect the BTC price much really of course there are peaks and troughs.It is affecting on bitcoin price because when bet going bigger its makes market panic and doing like what they want.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: FlightyPouch on July 03, 2018, 03:20:45 AM
I do not think so. Future bitcoins will be developed and there will be more positive changes as we think, if you like bitcoin then you can make them grow more as they are now.

I don't get what you are saying. You are like saying that there will be a lot of Bitcoin in the future and it will be developed? Bitcoin will be the only Bitcoin we know and we will know. Also, Bitcoin will not grow since it has a limit supply of 21 million though not really exactly 21 million Bitcoins since there are a lot of lost Bitcoin in the past.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: mamesso on July 03, 2018, 03:27:18 AM
Everybody just wastes time and speaks without fact, I do not see any good analysis. I began to doubt and confused to make a decision.
HOLD or discard it as soon as possible.
give me my advice to keep me in the trade until the end of this year.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: hermae on July 03, 2018, 03:40:48 AM
I bet the twins regret getting Bitcoin listed on the CME.
Bitcoin Futures will keep the price LOW!
In futures no one buys bitcoin!
It just a bet: up or down

Yes, I agree with you, Bitcoin alone will stand up if all other altcoin will die. Bitcoin will be the last one standing on all exchanges, I am sure it is, Bitcoin will survive and be used further like Fiat. That's in my opinion.

I have no doubt about what you said because I too believe in bitcoin and I believe that it will last the longest among others. I think in the future bitcoin will be the main cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Futures destroyed Bitcoin
Post by: FXTradingPro on July 03, 2018, 11:47:58 AM
Bitcoin futures probably have little to no impact on the price of BTC. The volume on the futures is light and derivatives must fall in line with the underlying so as BTC prices increase futures prices must adjust.