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please send me a PM and I will add you to the list of people I am going to payback.

Wow, something new here pretty much everyday. It's certainly not boring yet! 8^)

he says he is sorry for scamming people and asks for forgiveness and fresh start

This forum (and its moderators) are not keen on forgiveness, overlooking shortcomings, etc due to the high volume of air heads and con-artists flocking in daily (would you be surprised to know that at least 50 users here are just here to cause trouble for shits and giggles from another forum?). It is fundamental to the topic this forum was created to handle. If this was a sewing/knitting forum, you might have a friendly response.

This is a forum full of hard-nosed economists, engineers, and self-proclaimed elitists in various fields, effectively making it an 'old guy' forum and lacking in some much needed humor and light conversation. Given the lack of places Bitcoin can be discussed intelligently, it is no wonder the aggressive and elitist attitudes given towards average-joe users here. It makes sense if you really think about it. And with the level of intelligence in this forum, it operates reminiscent to a university in that you get by farther by learning how to be apologetic for your ignorance, talking less, and presenting educated and cited points of views rather than just opinions.

As for your recent transgressions, to quote a friend "the internet loves a comeback". I for one credit you for not deleting your account and running away. This proves only that you are fearful of consequences, and as such, have a conscience. Anyone who has a conscience should have a chance to redeem themselves. I would recommend however, that you not get emotional about anything said against you-- ever. It will only be taken as a sign of ignorance and more gorillas will come to lay into you, much for reasons no longer relative to the original transgression.

I actually plan to leave after I pay back everybody. This forum is lame tbh.

I'm rooting for Jake.  I think he'll do the right thing.

I'd too hate to see him OD on the smack he bought with coins he stole from an honest man....cuz karma is a bitch like that.

theymos, what will be the consequences if he doesn't pay back?

The accounts I listed are the only ones I have used. I'm sorry for what I did and people were saying skyliner was a scammer so when I got scared I tried to pretend it was him at first. I'm embarrassed that this is all coming out like this but I know I needed this to wake me up. I'm not going to give any excuses and I will take the punishment I deserve. I really don't want to go this way and I don't know why I did it in the first place.

I wouldn't call it disturbing so much as it is a rash and last ditch effort to avoid being caught. That's obviously old news now though considering the topic of this thread.

It's not old news for those who were scammed by skyliner and didn't get compensated.

Edit:  Is Jake also Zem?

Theymos, can you shed some light on whether or not Jake is skyliner?  

The IP evidence shows that Jake is probably not skyliner or Zem.

are you the same guy that scammed me over $800? can you please fukin pay me that amount back? and even if you're not him, can you pay me that amount back anyways for his actions? all scammers are the same to me. it left a really bitter taste in my mouth paying with non-reversible bitcoins to purchase items. that was my very first BTC transaction too  >:(

are you the same guy that scammed me over $800? can you please fukin pay me that amount back? and even if you're not him, can you pay me that amount back anyways for his actions? all scammers are the same to me. it left a really bitter taste in my mouth paying with non-reversible bitcoins to purchase items. that was my very first BTC transaction too  >:(

I just wanted to admit that yes, I would have kept going if Theymos didn't message me, or didn't rack up a ton of evidence.

Ordinarily, you'd be right on, however in this particular instance you're mistaken. The OP is not only a minor but has no previous history of fraud as far as I have found.

When you say "paid off", do you mean the money was returned to them? I'm curious how long ago this was.

He was interrupted on his previous path thanks to the watchful and vigil moderators. He is paying back the funds because it is the right thing to do.

I'm sure everyone here would agree the lack of  result that would get. We have verified his address, phone number, parents contact information and his age, and as a minor we are more interested in a corrective and supportive approach than simply joining an angry mob and kicking doors down.

I highly doubt this. As far as I can tell, there is only one individual who has yet to be paid and that individual will be paid back with interest per OP's agreement.

At this point I'd say that that is highly unlikely considering our involvement in his life now. In any other case, you might be right though. It's hard to be sure as human beings are all different.

In that case, any unethical activity your parents had scolded you for when you were 13, we can safely assume you are still active in to this day? Please. It's clear you were unaware this situation is being watched so closely and I will not fault you for that. It is not necessary to be so broad and judgmental. Not everything is always as it appears.

No one is forcing OP to pay back more than he owes. He has chosen to do so as a sign of good faith, especially considering the religious and occupational nature of the victim (IBB). He will be paying back 6.35 BTC for a due amount of 5.8 BTC. I am sure that this will be acceptable, given the nature of the circumstances. There is no need to be greedy or overly aggressive.

You are obviously unaware of his age at the time of writing this. If you were aware of it and still wrote it this way, then I have to say that in all honesty, people like you are the problem with this world. If you hadn't known he was a minor, then no harm no foul. Going to the extreme and trying to ruin his life for 5.8 BTC will not be necessary. If you'd like to ruin someone's life, please help the Bitcoin police track down any of the 20 members of constant scammers on this forum and IRC who share the same proxies and scam roughly 1500 BTC per month from the community. They are often associated with "Foodstamp", who in reality doesn't even use Bitcoin but due to his less associations has been put as the scape goat by the uninformed and overly judgmental community itself. Again, shouting "string 'em up!" at the sight of anything suspicious does not help anyone.

I'm pretty confident whether or not the community is familair with your reference to the social dilemma "tragedy of the commons", no one will be doing what you say given the extenuating circumstances. I'm curious to see how you will respond to this now because I'd truly like to see some common sense and not more spraying of judgments now that you know the facts.

Ah yes. Who hasn't been scammed before? In fact... who hasn't scammed once in their lifetimes themselves? Although I am sorry for previous, completely unrelated losses, I ask that you now look at the facts and restate your opinion on the matter.



I'm not sure where you come from, but even I often have a problem with displaying the appropriate tone in my writing. From what I can see, you're hardly suggesting.


In summary, you're probably more or less right on about scammers in general, however in this particular instance you're mistaken. The OP is not only a minor but has no previous history of fraud as far as I have found. He also possesses an interest in making money, but clearly took a teenage approach to it and is thankful for our watchful mods for correcting him where he was wrong. I admit to having made the exact same mistake with eBay and Paypal when I was 13 as well. Children with too much time on their hands, a passion for computers, and an interest in making money can fall into traps like this quite easily.

Without going into unnecessary detail, we are in direct contact with OP, have both his, his parents and his school's contact information, verified, and are working with him to show him how to use his talents for honest business. Before anyone scoffs at this, I'd like you to take a good hard look at yourselves when you were 13 and tell me what you would or wouldn't have done if no one was around and you thought you could have gotten away with it? Please, no arguments about how you were perfect as a child. I won't be able to hold my lunch.

Considering the small amount in question (5.8 BTC) and OP's intention on returning it with interest (6.35 BTC), there is no need for a witch hunt or further persecution as far as I am concerned. If however further evidence could be shown that he has done anything in addition to what he has already admitted, releasing his IP address will be the least of his concerns. He is being watched by white hat hackers with much free time on their hands.  ;)

I hope I have not offended you in any way and I hope that you and anyone else reading this will start seeing things for what they really are instead of trying so hard to fill in the blanks with fears and anxiety. Your comments are however much appreciated and you have in fact reminded me of why it was so hard to grow up when I was a teenager. Thank god that's all over.

he paid up... took a little while, but money is in my account.

he paid up... took a little while, but money is in my account.

where is your account Jake? I will send you a coin just because I can.

Sorry, are you wanting to give me a coin? Because if that's the case, thank you, but please donate it to a Bitcoin charity.

You being egcellent means you owe me 3.5 btc for that copy of AC3 you never delivered. If you are going to repay, then great. Otherwise I will file a police report and come after you.

Best reply in the whole thread... A pearl, indeed.

Best reply in the whole thread... A pearl, indeed.

Way to necro, faggot

Lovely weather we're having this time of year.

Also no, I don't think I will have a sudden trust. I don't care if people trust me ever again, just the fact that paying people back is better imho. So your saying if you scammed, you wouldn't return people's money? You seem like the big loser here.

Asshole. I'm trying to do something good here, go trash somebody else's thread.