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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: joburgtaxi on December 11, 2013, 12:21:40 PM



Title: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: joburgtaxi on December 11, 2013, 12:21:40 PM
Anyone know what is causing the sell off again ?


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: El Dude on December 11, 2013, 12:27:12 PM
Anyone know what is causing the sell off again ?

just whales  bringing down the price so they could buy more coins .


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: Liquid on December 11, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
Anyone know what is causing the sell off again ?

Dont need a reason for every drop in price, its a free market its up to the market on what the price does.

weak hands more of a bearish market atm.

I wont worry too much, just look at it as cheap coins  ;)


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: LatestBTC on December 11, 2013, 12:28:11 PM
Due to the recent JPMorgan news there has been a lot of panic selling

http://latestbtc.com/bitcoin-price-dropping/


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: MAbtc on December 11, 2013, 12:29:31 PM
Anyone know what is causing the sell off again ?

just whales  bringing down the price so they could buy more coins .
Just like they pushed the price up to buy more dollars. :)


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: TookDk on December 11, 2013, 12:33:44 PM
I really hope that JP is not successful in their stunt.
Normal practices is that "designs" that is already implemented cannot be pattent - but you never know with such a big player as JP, they have a army of lawyers and political influence.
Bitcoin will without doubt survive no matter the outcome, the question is if it can go mainstream with a pattent like that pending.

Edit: I do not know any details about JP patent, however I have just heard that the pattent might have been formulated before the time of BTC. Anyway, it could be good news for the cryptocurrency if JP wants a piece of the cake, time will tell.


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: seafarer124 on December 11, 2013, 12:33:50 PM
Possibly something to do with the link below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366926.20  

See also the link in Post#7.


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: joburgtaxi on December 11, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
Due to the recent JPMorgan news there has been a lot of panic selling

http://latestbtc.com/bitcoin-price-dropping/

I was thinking this too


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: lethe on December 11, 2013, 12:45:04 PM
JPMorgan renews a patent filed in 1999 and you think that is the reason for the price drop?

Stop reading shittybitcoinpumpdumpnews.com



Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: Painful Truth on December 11, 2013, 12:49:14 PM
JPMorgan renews a patent filed in 1999 and you think that is the reason for the price drop?

Stop reading shittybitcoinpumpdumpnews.com



+1

>> http://www.businessinsider.com/debunking-jp-morgan-bitcoin-2013-12


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: N12 on December 11, 2013, 01:08:47 PM
Because we are probably in a bear market.


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: Miz4r on December 11, 2013, 01:09:13 PM
Anyone know what is causing the sell off again ?

Don't you expect people to take some profits after an impressive 3-day uptrend from a low of 570 to 1000+? China signaled the start by a pretty large sell off and that triggers other speculators to think that it's time to take their profits as well. It's not rocket science. ;)


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: chrsjrcj on December 11, 2013, 01:12:35 PM
http://www.therealityjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/whale-wars.jpg


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: EvilPanda on December 11, 2013, 01:39:02 PM
Exactly like it was with the "china news" - people are so dumb. Just look at any black friday video


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: kireinaha on December 11, 2013, 02:03:06 PM
Exactly like it was with the "china news" - people are so dumb. Just look at any black friday video

lol... are you really comparing black friday shopping maniacs (which really is a small minority of the population) with bitcoin market dynamics? This is a silly comparison. There doesn't need to be a solid catalyst for every market dip. All that's happening is we experienced a sizable rally for the past couple days and smart investors are now taking their profits. The market has lost momentum when compared to last month, and most likely we don't have the buy support at the moment to reach another ATH.



Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: Tzupy on December 11, 2013, 02:16:41 PM
Because we are probably in a bear market.

Probably because the drop from 1242$ to 576$ was corrective wave A, the rise to 1069$ was wave B,
and now the market entered corrective wave C. But right now the price is still at 920$, so to confirm this
the price has to further drop today or tomorrow to 700$ - 750$, and much lower within a week.


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: Hfertig on December 11, 2013, 02:17:56 PM
Due to the low orderbook depth the dead cat bounce was surprisingly higher than expected. I my view it was pretty obvious that we quickly go down at some point. China did not break the double top neckline, which was the trigger for the sell off.


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: EvilPanda on December 11, 2013, 03:04:50 PM
Exactly like it was with the "china news" - people are so dumb. Just look at any black friday video

lol... are you really comparing black friday shopping maniacs (which really is a small minority of the population) with bitcoin market dynamics? This is a silly comparison. There doesn't need to be a solid catalyst for every market dip. All that's happening is we experienced a sizable rally for the past couple days and smart investors are now taking their profits. The market has lost momentum when compared to last month, and most likely we don't have the buy support at the moment to reach another ATH.



I'm not talking about dynamics but stupid people reacting to news without thinking. That's why the "silk road crash" and "china crash appeared".


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: ElectricMucus on December 11, 2013, 03:08:37 PM
Stop reading shittybitcoinpumpdumpnews.com
yes


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: ElectricMucus on December 11, 2013, 03:13:22 PM
JPMorgan renews a patent filed in 1999 and you think that is the reason for the price drop?

Stop reading shittybitcoinpumpdumpnews.com



+1

>> http://www.businessinsider.com/debunking-jp-morgan-bitcoin-2013-12

That's more like confirming than debunking, if the patent is a decade old, even worse, and if you look at the flowchart there are thing like payment conformation and certification. Right, this probably is a troll patent, but that doesn't make it any less threatening. Just remember the world we live in and what an army of highly payed lawyers, bribes and corruption can do it it.


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: juve4v on December 11, 2013, 03:17:05 PM
Strong hands shaking the tree...


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: JoeChmoe on December 11, 2013, 03:43:36 PM
Because of the people who wonder why there is a sell off..........then begin selling


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: zimmah on December 11, 2013, 05:20:39 PM
Due to the recent JPMorgan news there has been a lot of panic selling

http://latestbtc.com/bitcoin-price-dropping/

don't tell me JPonziCoin has any influence on the price of XBC


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: Carra23 on December 11, 2013, 05:25:35 PM
Starting to think it may have been a bulltrap.

Will wait till tomorrow and decide.


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: mearylll on December 11, 2013, 05:36:55 PM
I really hope that JP is not successful in their stunt.
Normal practices is that "designs" that is already implemented cannot be pattent - but you never know with such a big player as JP, they have a army of lawyers and political influence.
Bitcoin will without doubt survive no matter the outcome, the question is if it can go mainstream with a pattent like that pending.

Edit: I do not know any details about JP patent, however I have just heard that the pattent might have been formulated before the time of BTC. Anyway, it could be good news for the cryptocurrency if JP wants a piece of the cake, time will tell.

Oh these shitty pattents again, JP could buy some Bitcoins instead.


Title: Re: Why is there a sell off again ?
Post by: Mirsad on December 11, 2013, 05:43:47 PM
Starting to think it may have been a bulltrap.

Will wait till tomorrow and decide.

There were enough postings about that. After the first dead cat bounce without reaching a new ath, it was clear that it will govdown further and bounce back hard. Bitcoin never goes just down.
There is allways a way to take huge profits on the way down.

Just buy when all panic and you are ahead of them and then start to sell when they get euphoric and thousends of to the moon postings are created. Best indicator for an incoming downtrend.