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Title: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 12, 2011, 11:16:44 PM
I just ran across some interesting info that some of you may already know about.  A potential and what appears likely difficulty drop, so far it's predicted to drop from the current 1,890,362 to aprox. 1,854,133. ;D  That's about a 26k drop, I know relative to the current difficulty this is insignificant, but a drop like this has to be noticeable to some miners, or is it?  ???

  More information can be found here: http://bitcoinwatch.com/ (http://bitcoinwatch.com/)
    edit: Better monitoring site here: bitcoincharts.com (http://bitcoincharts.com) (live updates)  :D



Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: Stefanie Andrea on August 12, 2011, 11:21:28 PM
This information is also available at bitcoincharts.com


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 12, 2011, 11:23:06 PM
This information is also available at bitcoincharts.com

Nice to know.  
Thanks!         Thanks!          Thanks!          Thanks!


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: Stefanie Andrea on August 12, 2011, 11:27:35 PM
i use www.BitcoinCharts.com (http://www.BitcoinCharts.com) beacuse they have real-time updating on the markets.

1,860,433 is the drop according to them.


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 12, 2011, 11:32:47 PM
I just ran across some interesting info that some of you may already know about.  A potential and what appears likely difficulty drop, so far it's predicted to drop from the current 1,890,362 to aprox. 1,854,133. ;D  That's about a 26k drop, I know relative to the current difficulty this is insignificant, but a drop like this has to be noticeable to some miners, or is it?  ???

  More information can be found here: http://bitcoinwatch.com/ (http://bitcoinwatch.com/)



Doubt it if you were getting say 1btc a day that extra 2% will get you 1.02 not a whole hell of a lot extra to write home about..

True, but I can't complain.  I'll take what I can get, and think more long term lets say at that BTC a day that extra 2% (additional .60/month) would make a nice bit of pocket change, for lets say idk... maybe a couple lotto tickets or something. :)


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 12, 2011, 11:43:51 PM
Network hash rates have been dropping little by little for a while, and maybe, just maybe we'll see a nice difficulty drop.  It's almost like panning for gold, shake out the sand and dirt (the not so real miners) and you're left with the gold (as in the real miners).  :)


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: Bitman_Begins on August 12, 2011, 11:46:42 PM
That's not a significant difference  :D


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 12, 2011, 11:50:01 PM
That's not a significant difference  :D

@#$ realist, always have to drag me back to reality. :(
Anyway, bitcoins are bitcoins and I'll take another 2%-ish percent of em'.


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: molecular on August 13, 2011, 12:00:08 AM
hey newbies! No projection, but nice graphs are also here: http://bitcoin.sipa.be

gribble bot on irc projects:

Quote
<molecular> ;;bc,diff
<gribble> 1888786.7053531

Another projection (which I assume to be the most accurate) can be found here: http://dot-bit.org/tools/nextDifficulty.php

I myself project: For all practical purposes, the next difficulty will be the same as the current one.


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 13, 2011, 12:38:56 AM
hey newbies! No projection, but nice graphs are also here: http://bitcoin.sipa.be

gribble bot on irc projects:

Quote
<molecular> ;;bc,diff
<gribble> 1888786.7053531

Another projection (which I assume to be the most accurate) can be found here: http://dot-bit.org/tools/nextDifficulty.php

I myself project: For all practical purposes, the next difficulty will be the same as the current one.

Thanks for the info.  :D


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: payb.tc on August 13, 2011, 12:40:52 AM
That's not a significant difference  :D

not when compared to 100% but if you compare it to what has happened with difficulty increases in the past...

would you rather a +2% change or a -20% change :D


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 13, 2011, 12:44:52 AM
That's not a significant difference  :D

not when compared to 100% but if you compare it to what has happened with difficulty increases in the past...

would you rather a +2% change or a -20% change :D


Anything in the negatives, it could go down -.0000000000000000000000001% and I would be happy, as long as it doesn't go up...EVER!  ;D

Realism factor (1-10):HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


edit: I misread sry.  :-\ Oops!


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: payb.tc on August 13, 2011, 01:30:05 AM
That's not a significant difference  :D

not when compared to 100% but if you compare it to what has happened with difficulty increases in the past...

would you rather a +2% change or a -20% change :D


Anything in the negatives, it could go down -.0000000000000000000000001% and I would be happy, as long as it doesn't go up...EVER!  ;D

Realism factor (1-10):HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

really don't want it to go up? the % i was referring to was the change in the amount earned per day. eg 1 btc vs 1.02 btc = +2% which is unusual as normally miners are gradually earning less per day.


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 13, 2011, 01:44:49 AM
That's not a significant difference  :D

not when compared to 100% but if you compare it to what has happened with difficulty increases in the past...

would you rather a +2% change or a -20% change :D


Anything in the negatives, it could go down -.0000000000000000000000001% and I would be happy, as long as it doesn't go up...EVER!  ;D

Realism factor (1-10):HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

really don't want it to go up? the % i was referring to was the change in the amount earned per day. eg 1 btc vs 1.02 btc = +2% which is unusual as normally miners are gradually earning less per day.



Sry, I misread.  :-\ Oops!


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: ElectricMucus on August 15, 2011, 05:00:35 PM
How can you predict a difficulty drop?

I mean I suppose it is possible if the amount of FUD on youtube increases dramatically.... but you know youtube  :D


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: noob_jul11 on August 15, 2011, 08:37:01 PM
Most posts here mentioned the increase in mining - the number of potential bitcoins gain. Anyone would like to address the future of btc? Maybe bitcoin has lost its steam and drop in miners? Drop in miners due to drop in prices. Drop in prices due to lack of demands. Lack of demands due to no gains in businesses to adopt btc, etc.
OR was it because alot of miners are gone for the summer holidays and do not have their mine on?


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: mrbashfo on August 15, 2011, 08:48:50 PM
if bitcoin difficulty drops that would be awesome. Even at that I hope more people stop mining now and the price of the btc goes up!


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 15, 2011, 11:45:24 PM
if bitcoin difficulty drops that would be awesome. Even at that I hope more people stop mining now and the price of the btc goes up!
Not if, WHEN.  In a matter on minuets (one block) the difficulty will drop about 84k.  That's about 4.5%, it's not a record, but it's still awesome. ;D

Happy mining!  ;D
 


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: simonk83 on August 15, 2011, 11:50:08 PM
Current difficulty: 1805700.8361937, Estimated difficulty: 7222827.06887830, 300% increase in 2015 blocks, 1w 6day 23hr 50min 0se

Oh dear....  :D


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 15, 2011, 11:51:12 PM
How can you predict a difficulty drop?

I mean I suppose it is possible if the amount of FUD on youtube increases dramatically.... but you know youtube  :D

You can predict drops by watching hash rates, knowing a little investor/miner psychology, and comparing recient events to things that happened prior to past drops.  Mainly its just taking the hash rate and doing the math, and if it keeps going down so will difficulty.


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 16, 2011, 01:15:54 AM
Current difficulty: 1805700.8361937, Estimated difficulty: 7222827.06887830, 300% increase in 2015 blocks, 1w 6day 23hr 50min 0se

Oh dear....  :D


1802901 in 2009 blks  ::)
I'll give you a hint that's less than the decrease.  Did you put in too many 2s or something? ???


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: ElectricMucus on August 16, 2011, 04:17:16 AM
Well you can overlay the computing power graph with the google trends graph, just time-delayed...

oops I already said too much  :-X


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: Maged on August 16, 2011, 04:56:51 AM
Looks like someone reset the poll (was 8 yes, 0 no), so I've re-opened the poll for the next difficulty change.


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: molecular on August 16, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Current difficulty: 1805700.8361937, Estimated difficulty: 7222827.06887830, 300% increase in 2015 blocks, 1w 6day 23hr 50min 0se

Oh dear.... 

every .. fucking .. time       

^^


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: xylo on August 16, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
Looks like someone reset the poll (was 8 yes, 0 no), so I've re-opened the poll for the next difficulty change.

It wasn't reset, it was changed.  It was "do you think difficulty will drop" now it's "do you think difficulty will continue to drop".


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: Maged on August 16, 2011, 10:45:39 PM
Looks like someone reset the poll (was 8 yes, 0 no), so I've re-opened the poll for the next difficulty change.

It wasn't reset, it was changed.  It was "do you think difficulty will drop" now it's "do you think difficulty will continue to drop".
Ah, I see.


Title: Re: Projected BitCoin difficulty drop
Post by: ElectricMucus on August 21, 2011, 10:36:36 AM
Wouldn't difficulty stay about the same from now on?

I ask this because a dropping difficulty would take an active action on part of the miners. Wouldn't those who already set it up would most likely stick with it?
I mean it could be possible that the price of bitcoin plunges further demotivating some people but not a majority...

The other question is to what extent this forum and the community is just the tip of the iceberg... Most miners probably got to bitcoin via mouth to mouth propaganda and are not following the development to this extent, and such ignore most market movements.