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Title: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Ubachef on December 12, 2013, 12:19:17 PM
https://www.hashblaster.com/
they promise for 2014 Q1 an impressive mining rig that is going to deliver 3.3TH/s

What do you think about?


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Ubachef on December 12, 2013, 12:23:37 PM
well, they appeared out of the blue 3 days ago

Domain Name: HASHBLASTER.COM
Creation Date: 2013-12-09 22:55:00Z

mmmh


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: qwk on December 12, 2013, 12:48:30 PM
The address on the website points to a nursing home. ::)


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Ubachef on December 12, 2013, 12:57:30 PM
The address on the website points to a nursing home. ::)

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d6.999797!3d51.457281!2m2!1f181.76!2f96.8!4f75!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sY-uXIg_9S0IAJpDcBxeVTQ!2e0!9m1!6sThea-Leymann-Stra%C3%9Fe!5m2!1sY-uXIg_9S0IAJpDcBxeVTQ!2e0&fid=5
it rather looks like a condominium...


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: ninjaboon on December 12, 2013, 12:59:06 PM
The most powerful ASIC bitcoin miner to date - pre-order now.limited to 800 units. Shipping Q1, 2014.
Pre-order drama again ?



Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: jelin1984 on December 12, 2013, 01:01:29 PM
TO GOOD TO BE TRUE


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: helmax on December 12, 2013, 01:02:55 PM
we need more info
someone from germany can trip to company


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: rograz on December 12, 2013, 01:05:49 PM
well if it's a scam site it's pretty well made, + for effort!

The problem here is that if they were to start to deliver in feb they already managed a tape-out and already paid for the NRE out of pocket for 20nm (what was it KNC mentioned? 10M usd+?)


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Biffa on December 12, 2013, 01:08:20 PM
well if it's a scam site it's pretty well made, + for effort!

I wish you could ignore threads so they don't show up in the list


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: qwk on December 12, 2013, 01:08:57 PM
we need more info
someone from germany can trip to company
No we don't. We have enough information to safely assume that this is a total SCAM.
I am from Germany, but I certainly won't waste my time taking a trip to a building where no such company resides.
It's a nursing home.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: de_ixie on December 12, 2013, 01:13:18 PM
Its like 2 hours away from me by car - Lets see how this developes - I also refuse to take the trip because it looks very scammy.

Anyone here from NRW who can jump over quickly and check them out?


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: dogie on December 12, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
The address on the website points to a nursing home. ::)

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m8!1m3!1d3!2d6.999797!3d51.457281!2m2!1f181.76!2f96.8!4f75!2m9!1e1!2m4!1sY-uXIg_9S0IAJpDcBxeVTQ!2e0!9m1!6sThea-Leymann-Stra%C3%9Fe!5m2!1sY-uXIg_9S0IAJpDcBxeVTQ!2e0&fid=5
it rather looks like a condominium...

You don't know that, the street view image is from 2009. Bitcoins didn't even exist when that image was taken.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: phantastisch on December 12, 2013, 01:20:38 PM
No company registration , no business. It's as simple as that, and we germans take these things very seriously.

Don't pre-order. Period.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Bitcoinorama on December 12, 2013, 01:23:18 PM
Scam. They don't even raise enough to fund their NRE if only 800 are available to pre-order.

Plus their chip is a photo of the KnC 28nm with the logo photoshopped from it.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: rograz on December 12, 2013, 01:31:34 PM
Scam. They don't even raise enough to fund their NRE if only 800 are available to pre-order.

Plus their chip is a photo of the KnC 28nm with the logo photoshopped from it.

Maybe they got some "friends" at whatever foundry KNC is using and plan to "borrow" a few wafers, surely a few wont be missed!


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Bitcoinorama on December 12, 2013, 01:37:04 PM
Scam. They don't even raise enough to fund their NRE if only 800 are available to pre-order.

Plus their chip is a photo of the KnC 28nm with the logo photoshopped from it.

Maybe they got some "friends" at whatever foundry KNC is using and plan to "borrow" a few wafers, surely a few wont be missed!

No they are just taking what little they know and are tweaking the script to make theirs sound enticing.

The page looks pretty because these scammers know what cash they could potentially pull in by blind fools with cash burning a hole in their pocket.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a seasoned serial scammer.

Modus operandi banks once a scammer has found his niche, they just work to perfect their system.

Patter may change a little but it's recognisable.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: af_newbie on December 12, 2013, 01:38:48 PM
https://www.hashblaster.com/
they promise for 2014 Q1 an impressive mining rig that is going to deliver 3.3TH/s

What do you think about?

If they plan to ship in Q1/14, they already paid R&D costs.  So basically they don't need to go the pre-order route.
They can just sell the units as in-stock items in Q1.

Unless of course they want to take your coins and disappear.  

Just think about it.  They "started" the company in 2012, developed bitcoin ASIC and registered their domain in Dec, 2013?

Why only 800 units? Who runs 2400 ASIC chips run?  I would imagine the runs would be in multiples of 10K...



Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Leahcim on December 12, 2013, 01:51:05 PM
No imprint on the website. For German companies thats mandatory, no info about the do-port gmbh that i can find. I bet its scam.If someone wants to be sure, i can drive to them and check. Just make an attractive offer ;-)

Bye
Michael


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: RenHoek on December 12, 2013, 04:29:32 PM
scamm


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Operatr on December 12, 2013, 04:41:21 PM
20nm? Total scam, stay away from this.

Seriously, don't send money without some kind of proof what they have is real, that goes for any of these pages that pop up out of nowhere without nary a word from their leadership on these boards.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: RickJamesBTC on December 12, 2013, 07:00:30 PM
The sad part is that they probably will get some buyers who don't realize what a scam it is, just like the other bad companies.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Swift42 on December 12, 2013, 07:10:13 PM
no info about the do-port gmbh that i can find.

http://www.unternehmen24.info/Firmeninformationen/DE/3705288
"Branche: Vermittlung von Wohngrundstücken, Wohngebäuden und Wohnungen für Dritte"

translated:
"Business: sale of residential land, residential buildings and apartments for third parties."

no comment.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: xstr8guy on December 12, 2013, 07:17:29 PM
Simple test for a scam...
Do they have an "Official Announcement" thread on BitcoinTalk?
No = Scam


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: descarte on December 12, 2013, 08:51:34 PM
they site looks pretty impressive though.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: xstr8guy on December 12, 2013, 09:37:30 PM
they site looks pretty impressive though.

The guy is probably a serial ASIC scammer and by now he has a huge web design budget.  ;)


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: aerobatic on December 13, 2013, 03:46:26 AM
they site looks pretty impressive though.

The guy is probably a serial ASIC scammer and by now he has a huge web design budget.  ;)



Its really very sad that the best web sites by far are made by the scammers.   The genuine asic companies seem to have really lame web sites...  based on wordpress and woo commerce.

Why... can't the genuine asic companies start making better web sites!?

In the meantime, at least we can use it as a tool to figure out who the scammers are.  The better the web site, the more likely the scam!

-- Jez


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: aerobatic on December 13, 2013, 06:10:35 AM
20nm? Total scam, stay away from this.

Seriously, don't send money without some kind of proof what they have is real, that goes for any of these pages that pop up out of nowhere without nary a word from their leadership on these boards.

1 TH chips at 0.55 W/GH would be 550 Watt chips...  a tad unlikely to be possible !   Hashfast and Cointerra are hitting the theoretical limits with their 250-300 watt chips.

-- Jez


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: ninjaboon on December 13, 2013, 08:05:26 AM
Simple test for a scam...
Do they have an "Official Announcement" thread on BitcoinTalk?
No = Scam

Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) to follow for "real" companies.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: olegtaranenko on December 13, 2013, 01:06:40 PM
We need to protect wiki page from polluting with scammer's advertising https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Mining_hardware_comparison&action=history

Is here anybody who can touch one of bitcoin.it admins to STOP scamming on the page?


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: gbx on December 25, 2013, 02:16:37 AM
Have we an update on this company?

https://www.hashblaster.com/images/batch_hardware_delivery_big.jpg

The accompanying blog-type post says they took delivery of a bunch of hardware...  but these boxes don't look like they've ever seen a shipping truck.  The labels on a couple boxes are barely sticking to the box.  Not to mention the randomness of the shipping label placement.  Anyone that's worked around a shipping department knows this type of randomness doesn't usually happen.

It looks like a bunch of fresh cardboard stacked to convince someone to send them btc for a preorder.

anyone?


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: HarrisonS on December 25, 2013, 03:33:50 AM
Either its legit, or a really good scam.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: turtle83 on December 25, 2013, 05:47:09 AM
Have we an update on this company?

https://www.hashblaster.com/images/batch_hardware_delivery_big.jpg

The accompanying blog-type post says they took delivery of a bunch of hardware...  but these boxes don't look like they've ever seen a shipping truck.  The labels on a couple boxes are barely sticking to the box.  Not to mention the randomness of the shipping label placement.  Anyone that's worked around a shipping department knows this type of randomness doesn't usually happen.

It looks like a bunch of fresh cardboard stacked to convince someone to send them btc for a preorder.

anyone?


They should have atleast bought self sticking paper to fake the labels...


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: eXme on December 25, 2013, 10:07:55 PM
Have we an update on this company?

https://www.hashblaster.com/images/batch_hardware_delivery_big.jpg

The accompanying blog-type post says they took delivery of a bunch of hardware...  but these boxes don't look like they've ever seen a shipping truck.  The labels on a couple boxes are barely sticking to the box.  Not to mention the randomness of the shipping label placement.  Anyone that's worked around a shipping department knows this type of randomness doesn't usually happen.

It looks like a bunch of fresh cardboard stacked to convince someone to send them btc for a preorder.

anyone?


They should have atleast bought self sticking paper to fake the labels...

well, to save moneys they dont need gmbh they can work undercover. as we bitcoiners do :)
i know where it is but i never paid attention. i got a friend he lives like 5km from the point. ill call tomorrow.

suspicious, its a nursing house but it have game store and some other company..

i think google maps wont help in this situation..
http://s14.directupload.net/images/131225/uc2jttxg.jpg

edit:

the company friseurcoach.de is no longer exist at the place so maybe its the place of hashb..? ill call gamestore tomorrow and ask them..

Quote
COMPANY DESCRIPTION
DO-Port GmbH is a limited liability company registered in Germany as a company with the Registrar no. HRB24529 DORTMUND. Her current status is "registered". The company was registered 2012-01-19. DO-Port GmbH has carried out their activities previously under the name of DO-Port GmbH. The current Managing Director is Mr. Marcel Krüger. The Company may in writing of Weidenstr. 58, 44147 Dortmund, Germany can be achieved.

havent found any other DO-Port GmbH companies.. i think its the only one.. because even young companies are registered and can be viewed in germany.

 found the founder of the do-port gmbh http://badoo.com/0245162519/ in 2012 he was 29 now he is 31, im not sure how accurate is the information.

For a Company which exist 2 years and noone knows about, its very trustful!

Domain Name: HASHBLASTER.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1838574720_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Creation Date: 2013-12-09 22:55:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-12-09 22:55:00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252744500
Reseller: NAMECHEAP.COM
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Registrant Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Registrant Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Registrant City: PANAMA
Registrant State/Province: PANAMA
Registrant Postal Code: NA
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.8365503
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +51.17057182
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Admin Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Admin Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Admin City: PANAMA
Admin State/Province: PANAMA
Admin Postal Code: NA
Admin Country: PA
Admin Phone: +507.8365503
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +51.17057182
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: WHOISGUARD PROTECTED
Tech Organization: WHOISGUARD, INC.
Tech Street: P.O. BOX 0823-03411
Tech City: PANAMA
Tech State/Province: PANAMA
Tech Postal Code: NA
Tech Country: PA
Tech Phone: +507.8365503
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +51.17057182
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Name Server: DNS1.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAMECHEAPHOSTING.COM
DNSSEC: unSigned
Last update of WHOIS database: 2013-12-09 14:55:06Z
Quote
Who we are

The Hashblaster division located in Essen, Germany founded in 2012 is a part of the DO-Port GmbH, based in Dortmund, Germany, with our in semiconductor engineering specialized team, we have made it our goal to design bitcoin mining solutions that are poised to deliver a major discontinuity in the processing power and energy efficiency sector to this rapidly growing ecosystem which the bitcoin portraits.

Key word "part", as i know if there is a company which does fishing business they cant do other business like selling GPU or hookers.. so its only a fishing company nothing else...

Only Payments method "BitPay"...

So I would say its 100%


S C A M


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: gbx on December 26, 2013, 05:24:00 AM
It didn't take long to track down this photograph in Google images.  Likely the source of their photoshop trickery.

Left side, original product image.  Right side...  Hashblaster photoshop goodness.

https://i.imgur.com/nysIewe.png



Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Bitcoinorama on December 26, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
Why is this even still being discussed.

It took ten seconds to see it was a scam.

Man the power of doubt and desire to believe something so crooked could be real is strong here.

You do realise scammers feed off of doubt?

What if? Is their strongest argument.

Still a photoshopped KnC 28nm chip and Carbon copy of the KnC 20nm specs made to sound a little more enticing...


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: defcon23 on January 24, 2014, 10:19:02 PM
thats' not pretty clear .. smell scam..   ::)


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: RickJamesBTC on January 25, 2014, 02:24:03 AM
It didn't take long to track down this photograph in Google images.  Likely the source of their photoshop trickery.

Left side, original product image.  Right side...  Hashblaster photoshop goodness.

https://i.imgur.com/nysIewe.png



Good job lol!


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: descarte on January 25, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
It just amazes me how far these scammers want to go.... their site have been operating for so long..

"Batch 3 is now completely sold out and we are now accepting pre-orders for the final 200 units - Batch 4"

No one bought any machines before and they dare to keep increasing the batch number. ugly people.


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: bummi28 on February 12, 2014, 11:02:31 AM
It didn't take long to track down this photograph in Google images.  Likely the source of their photoshop trickery.

Left side, original product image.  Right side...  Hashblaster photoshop goodness.

https://i.imgur.com/nysIewe.png



Good job lol!
My daughter is a graphic designer and she likes to say: "Bow down, because Photoshop is powerful."


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: Gator-hex on February 12, 2014, 11:55:09 AM
My daughter is a graphic designer and she likes to say: "Bow down, because Photoshop is powerful."

Tell your daughter she doesn't need to bow down to anyone, just use free GIMP instead www.gimp.org  ;)


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: DBG on February 13, 2014, 02:06:16 AM
Sadly I know someone that paid for a unit in the "Batch 4" (talking to random people on a PPCoin pool/site).  Also these machines should have already hit earlier customers yet nothing.  I doubt he is the only one... even if only three people actually sent them money that is a fat stash esp. considering that at most they invested a couple hundred into the site (probably a lot less).


Title: Re: Hashblaster, from Essen Germany
Post by: TheRealSteve on February 11, 2015, 03:54:14 AM
Old thread is old...or ancient, even...last post almost has its anniversary!  But just to touch on this one as I'm working my through the list:
Plus their chip is a photo of the KnC 28nm with the logo photoshopped from it.
It's actually based on this image or a predecessor*: http://javier.esilicon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/HFCBGA.jpg
From this page: http://javier.esilicon.com/page/3/
( Took me a bit to find that, reverse image search yielded nothing; 'bga chip bottom' with an additional yellow color filter was what popped it up right in the first screen of results. )

* What's funny is that that image has rather obvious signs of photoshoppery, and I can't decide if the failed scammers decided to smudge that out to make it less obvious (but thus introducing a different obviousness), or whether both worked from a different image that had a logo and both had to get rid of that somehow.  I'm leaning toward the former.



DBG: Did that someone ever receive anything (like a bicycle light (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=908542.msg10396872#msg10396872), perhaps), or report the scam officially?