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Update: I'm okay! It was just a weird extremely painful lump inside my throat. That was 2013, it's 2020 now!

I may have cancer, I will know in a little less than 2 weeks. This is not the way I want to die, balled up in a hospital. I don't really want to talk to my friends and family about it until this proves to be cancer.

I'll know for sure this December 26.

And the countdown begins.

You are healthy.

Well, apart from the constant pain and the possible cancer, you could say that.

I guess it's time to take up meth-making to provide for my family.

Edit: Obviously I'm joking about the meth-cooking.

http://phoenixtears.ca/

Concentrated cannabis cures cancer.

Where do you think it is?

I'll opt for surgery if possible. It's still very early to tell of course.

Oral cancer, at the base of the tongue, I've had pain for a while but I don't remember exactly how long. There is a lump and a deformation on the top left base of the tongue. It's really far in but quite big.

Of course it might as well not be cancer.

Believing you'll be cured, and not going against doctors' recommendations, can increase the odds of a "miracle" happening. Modern medicine and faith that you will be cured, when put together, have been found to increase the odds of a person surviving way more than either one alone.


Also, do your best to keep both your body and mind healthy. Laugh, exercise, do puzzles, videogames, have fun with friends etc. Having a positive attitude about things, and making sure your body doesn't have to fix things other than your disease, also can help a lot.



And don't give up, even if the doctor says you're gonna die, there is still chance there will be a new discovery before you kick the bucket, and once in a while people live for many years past what the doctors expected.

Thanks for the uplifting stuff. I got to mention I have bipolar-disorder so it's a pretty tough life anyway, cancer may just be a little cherry-on-top.

I just hope I don't have it though. If I do I'll donate the majority of my bitcoins to cancer research (I don't have that many).

The possibility is a real downer but at least I'll know pretty soon. I got to get my affairs in order anyway. Tidy up my room and get rid of anything incriminating or useless in my possession.



The potential cancer site is pretty deep in. To get a proper look at it I had to dry my tongue with paper towels and pull it out. Luckily it seems to be mostly on one side of the tongue, which means I'll probably get to keep it(?)

I'm hoping it's not a cancer  :'(

Well start making a bucket list

shit, sorry to hear.. hopefully things are alright. if it's cancer, go on a drug and hooker binge. might as well live it up. they say psychadelics may be a good way in coping with one's death.. so maybe you could try that if you haven't? better yet, go to an ahuyasca retreat in south america.

if it's the worst case scenario, then you should go sky diving or bungee jumping. why not? the cold fact is that you're going to die anyways, so if the bungee is loose or your parachute doesn't work, no biggie.

i hope all goes well man! stay up  ;D

yes fine the DMT doctor. it may even cure you. (ecuador, Peru) and do some real research. If this is real and you need a guide I may be able to help.

Cancer is a pain, but fortunately oral cancer has an excellent survival rate.

That being said, bucket list suggestions:

-Play through Tail of the Sun at least once
-Try fugu
-Master 'Careless Whisper' on saxophone
-Master the saxophone
-Roughly 2 parts strong spearmint snowcone, slightly melted: 2 parts cranberry juice: 1 part vodka.
(It's one of those WHY IS THIS GOOD THIS MAKES NO SENSE IT'S GREAT drinks)
-Chill with sloths

Good luck in the coming 2 weeks. Waiting for lab results sucks!

boring. i'd need something inspriing, like skydiving, bungee jumping, or an ahuyasca retreat. or maybe see the wonders of the world. at least travel through a continent. i'd travel somewhere unsafe and dangerous, like parts of south america.

best wishes for you hope all well for you in next 2 weeks take care

Thank you for your time here everyone. I can't believe there has been absolutely 0 trolling.

I'll come back to this thread when I find out if I have cancer conclusively.

All the best, hope it is just a false alarm

Sorry to hear that bro, good luck...
Also, buy a dolphin

If I have it, it's almost the same thing that killed my grandmother. Where it may be is a very good spot though. Medical technology nowadays is great too. The only really annoying thing is the pain. When I swallow, pain. When I move my tongue, pain, when I try to sleep, pain.

I consider myself as a person with a very high pain tolerance. I have passed the ice-water bucket test from mythbusters and I consume more spicy food than anyone I know. What helps more with pain is to acknowledge and rationalize it.

Still it's very early to tell.

doesnt it suck when god chooses you

well then you should start doing something good for yourself and your family

I'm sure you have %100 health. Even if you have this thing, you can bite. So don't be scared from anything.

Hi good luck buddy

http://static.animalpolitico.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/you-sir.jpg

Good luck. I opened this expecting it to be asking for donations  :-\ Happy Holidays besides it

Happy holidays!

I'd like to let this thread die (ha!) for 10 days or until I know what I have with certainty! If anyone else is also looking for cancer at the time (chances are, with so many users on bitcointalk someone will be) we can start a group.

If the lump is malignant I think my parents and health insurance will cover it, I won't need any donations. If you have any experience with this I'd appreciate it if you'd share it here!

I could totally Walter White it! The only problem is I don't know how to cook meth.

I guess I could grow some marijuana in my closet and use the cancer fighting properties as well as the income from growing marijuana. (For any authorities lurking around here, sticking your noses where they don't belong, know that I am joking).

I also recommend this. I hope you don't have cancer OP.

Calm down buddy, you'd be just fine  :) Just do as I say.
While you'r report comes, scan through each single page of this website http://curezone.org/diseases/cancer/default.asp
Cancer is not a disease, it's just a body's auto-defence mechanism by which it stores toxins in mass.

Also google Andreas Moritz and his books on Cancer.

You'll be doing many cleanses, enemas and things that will test your will-power but in the end...you get to live  :)

Cheer up.

Please don't do any  business with  Tuco Salamanca !!

look into an extremely carb-restrictive diet (keto) there is some evidence that cancer cells need carbs to thrive. Also, I would definitely go for some of the concentrated cannabis oils, they are worth trying.

Eat some anti cancer stuff like garlic (but don't eat too much), it is healthy food anyway :)

Noprobs you ARE healthy as others said :) Dont worry too much and yeah tell me them afterwards. ( when you will know you are healthy)

Exactly, I just recalled that I read somewhere that cancer cells live on WHITE REFINED SUGAR.
If you remove it from your diet and switch to something like stevia you will starve the cancer cells to death.
Additionally doing the cleanses from my previous post.

Open a betting 'game' on outcome of your test results, with the maximum bet of 0.001BTC with a rule that 15% of the winnings will go towards your medications if you do have cancer, or research if you do not.

If it would be that way, then cancer would be cured by now.

Although I'm a keto fan, and lost 2x10kg when I tried it for myself. Best diet there is.

It is that way...but no one wants (or is brave enough) to see things/world from a point of view that has not been shown to us by the pre-existing society. It requires challenging your belief system that everyone around you has lived on for decades/centuries.

Once, you start looking at the world from not-so-brainwashed perspective, *SURPRISE* you'll see sleeping humans everywhere that work like machines day/night and do as they said to do.

we need to think of a way to use bitcoin to help either find a cure for cancer or at least help educate people on how to find it early so it causes less death. Something like that, just thinking.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330685.0

I'm definitely eating healthier. I wonder If I can test myself using a microscope by just brushing out a few cells. As I said in a previous post, due to the color of the thing it's probably not cancerous. It's most likely a bad canker sore. I've never personally had one of those. The pain is very annoying still though. It switching from burning to stabbing sometimes.

Something to note, I eat hot stuff. Right after I ate some spiced up food, there was less pain for a while which was surprising.

Some people have it worse than I, one of my favorite artists on YouTube, Dan Bull has audiovisual problems (hearing cracks constantly and eye pain) and as he noted he is an audiovisual artist. It would totally suck to be a professional taster and then get this thing.

That's the video he made about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFRGPe04kjQ

Personally I always like to self diagnose and treat. When my big toe broke, I fixed it myself, same when I broke the smallest toe too. When I broke my nose, I went to the hospital. I'm originally from Greece where there is universal healthcare. Here in the US, a doctor checked me and the hospital charged us over 1,000 dollars which made no sense to me. They didn't even have to do anything to my nose, it healed on its own.

If I read a couple of books, I'm sure I can get a small biopsy or a couple of cells and test them under the microscope. So I'll know even before I get to a doctor (if the pain stays past December 26 that is)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Oral_cancer_%281%29_squamous_cell_carcinoma_histopathology.jpg
http://www.medical-terms-glossary.com/Images/esophageal-carcinoma.jpg

Above is what I'd be looking for.

Damn, I sincerely hope that it is really something less serious. Best of luck man.

I am in Plymouth, UK - please PM if you would like a chat-buddy or, if you're nearby, if there is anything practical I can do.

FUCK cancer!

Squamous cell carcinoma is the most likely diagnosis esp. if you are a smoker. Have you had your CT scan and biopsy yet? Excision and radiation can be curative. Best wishes!

Would the cancer cells be on the surface though?

I've only smoked for a couple of years, I'm not a smoker, most likely it's not cancer. The pain is bad though and the general consensus is if something like that doesn't heal within 14 days you should get it checked out. By the color of it, it is most likely not a cancer. As I'm looking into it, it seems less likely than it did in the start. I'm also finding out that different foods have different effects on the pain.

If I eat nearly any spicy food the pain subsides for a couple of hours.

The most painful food is nutella. It's not easy to tell but I think I'm getting better. The lump seems smaller I've had it longer than I can recall. While this is very unlikely to be a cancer this has been all in all a positive experience. Now I now that oral cancer is a very common one. Every single hour a person dies because of it. And what to do about it. If the pain subsides before the 26th, and I hope it will I'll see my dentist on February or March. Other than that trained professionals are pretty good at guessing which is which but I don't have that kind of knowledge.

One surprising detail that I've found is that HPV 17, could be the primary cause of that cancer so oral sex may increase your chances of getting oral cancer 6-fold. I have to say I'm guilty of it but I don't think she had any disease, so it's probably not that. Smoking is also a big factor. Something else that may be of interest is that throat cells (cells in the esophagus) are very good at killing cancer via programmed cell death (autophagy). There are evolutionary traits that help certain parts of humans be more resistant to cancer either by the autophagy just mentioned or if we think about our skin as having a shield for harmful radiation (although this is fighting a cause and not a cancer) and the inside of the mouth seems to be an ideal spot for the body to put on a fight.

Then again there is this bit of text (which I picked since my problem is at the very side of the tongue which is more like tissue from the esophagus rather then the one found on the tongue) :

Cancers of the esophagogastric region are highly malignant tumors with five-year survival rates of less than 16%.1 Research has shown that 88% of patients, selected for curative resection for esophagogastric cancer, already have disseminated tumor cells,2 that can remain dormant for variable periods, before emerging as aggressive, drug-resistant metastases.3 Improved systemic therapeutic options are therefore required to effectively eliminate primary and recurrent esophageal cancer.

http://myweb.sabanciuniv.edu/dgozuacik/selected-publications/files/2009/01/2004-oncogene-review3.pdf (pretty old document on autophagy (2004) I love autophagy, like our cells have a protocol for cannibalizing themselves.

I think the brush technique with biopsies is not a standalone one. The other two either include cell aspiration with a needle (pulling the cells with a needle from various places to get a good sample) and a microscopic round cutter that removes a plug of cells. All those newer methods heal right up. My stepfather always gets murdered when they get biopsies from him though so that makes me wonder.

The area can also be tested for certain kinds of bacteria which thrive on cancer cells. I have the theory that if someone's nose and eyes where trained enough, a cancer patient could spit in a cup and let the bacteria stay overnight and then just by looking at and smelling (yucky I know) you could test for cancer. Kind of like trained service dogs can smell a seizure coming in or certain kinds of cancer.

Hey dude, I have a friend that survived cancer a tumor in their stomach or something, he had this radiation surgery or something.

Good Luck!

If you're going the DIY route, perhaps it could be a good idea to look into bee-based smell detectors. Bees are much easier and cheaper to train than dogs and got quite a nose.



edit: though i dunno where you would get the reference smells to train them on...

Sorry, if this has already been discussed but have you ever smoked cigarettes or used chewing tobacco for any length of time?  Do you have a family history of cancer, oral or otherwise?  How long has the mass been on your tongue and has it always been painful?

Technically cancer at the base of the tongue (even on the side of the tongue) is in the category of "head and neck" cancer not esophagogastric cancer and carries a slightly better prognosis. The pharynx extends approximately 15cm below the bottom teeth before the esophagus begins.

"Head and neck cancer is highly curable if detected early, usually with some form of surgery, but radiation therapy may also play an important role, while chemotherapy is often ineffective."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_and_neck_cancer

If it's highly curable by excising my tongue and removing part of my jaw, I think I'll still be worried about my mental prognosis.

Just one example but Michael Douglas had cancer of the tongue and he seems to be doing pretty well.

Sad to hear that, hope it is not cancer! But if it is do you know an estimated time you have had it for? Hope it was caught early hmabd have not spread. When My son was 15 months old he was thought to have cancer. Luckily it wasnt. It is a sad and dreadful experience

i read it a few days ago that one can live through cancer by eating fruit before meal, or while stomach is empty

please don't tell someone that. this is how steve jobs died. if he had his treatment done when he found out, he would have had a really high chance of surviving.

jobs chose the hippy path

And the hippy path was a dead end....

Medical treatment is always the best option.

kind of funny to me that was a hippy.. the way he ran apple, he seemed like anything but.

Yeah, if it's anything, it's oral.
I've smoked cigarettes for a couple of years many years earlier. I've only used chewing tobacco once. It has been painful for many days, I haven't counted exactly but It will be way more than two weeks on the 26th so if the pain doesn't stop and the thing doesn't go away that is when I'll be going to the doctor. If it stops I'll be going February/March. It's painful and immensely annoying but the pain isn't becoming stronger or anything. It hasn't always been painful and I hadn't noticed the lump although there where some things that looked like normal tongue geometry on each side of the base of my tongue. This thing is on one side even further.

The lump is about half an inch across. Although I can't really see of it because to see it, I have to dry my tongue and gently kind of pull it out.

The most likely diagnosis would be canker sore because of the white color. Cancer is most likely red or red with white specs. Canker sores are also known to hurt like hell. Cancer is something only a professional can diagnose. In my case I will wait until 2 weeks have passed which is what the general consensus is and then get it checked out. If it's a canker sore at this point they'll give me something to make it go away faster.

Now it seems like one of my cervical lymph nodes (left side nearly directly below the ear) is getting swollen and a little bit painful.) Swollen lymph nodes happen with canker sores.

So, if it keeps up for 9 more days, I'm going to the doctor.

Beetcoin, don't worry I'm unaffected by hippie advice when it comes to matters of health. I'm not one to wear a crystal and drink extremely diluted onion juice. The people who believe water has memory are ridiculous. I love what Tim Minchin says about that. I'm not sure I can remember it verbatim Through the magic of the internet I found the lyrics: "And whilst its memory of a long lost drop of onion juice is infinite
It somehow forgets all the poo it's had in it!"

This forum is pretty awesome, technical discussions about BTC, trading, novelty products, crypto announcements, millions of dollars of pizza, and now a thread about a potential oral cancer. This thread is a little too Off-topic even for the Off-topic category.
TheGr33k, what kind of cancer did they think your son had? Are you in Greece? If so where, I'm also from there!

If you have cervical adenopathy a soft tissue abscess would be another easily treated possibility.

I feel for you man, best of luck with everything.

Glad you're doing better, not so lucky here.

Hey KonstantinosM, did you find anything on Dec 26th? What did the medical results say...? If I may ask... I pray for your health...

Wondering the same. Konstantinos did make a couple of healthy posts on the 25th and 31st of December here at the Bitcointalk forum.

@KonstantinosM, I seriously hope your medical results are fine! Do let us know about them here.

It's a distant memory now, That was 6 years ago! I'm completely okay now and no, it wasn't cancer. It was really painful and scary though. If I had cancer I'd probably have donated all my bitcoin and killed myself rather than going bankrupt, or flew over to Greece or driven up into Canada.

What's going on with you Phinnaeus Gage?

Preparing for the afterlife.

Are you serious...? Can you detail more...? What happened with you?

Info forthcoming in new thread.

Spoiler alert:

Oh man... I feel very very sorry for you...
Is there anything to be done to help you somehow?

Damn, that head gash looks nasty. Stay strong!

You look too young for that, I hope you pull through.

If you are sure about that. It is normal for you to feel afraid but that is the truth that you have a cancer. The only person that can help you is your friend and family. You must tell them and they can help you. Many patient that have cancer havr been cure and you must believe that you the hospital can help you

Look at your post. And look at the timestamps. 2013!

I don't have cancer. If I went through something like that again I'd probably tell my best friend. I did tell her later. But the reason I didn't was that suicide seemed like a nice alternative and I probably thought I could just let it go and let go and just die.

I wanna lock this thread down, I just want to see if Phinnaeus Gage will post something here or maybe a link to a new thread. Maybe he won't post at all but I'll give it sometime. I hope that he'll be alright.

A harem of goats.

I am serious. Post that new thread, please. Maybe there is a chance. I will do all I can to help. I am seriouss.

I felt so bad when hearing the initial post.
I run immediately till the end of the thread in order to find a post of yours and be sure that you are still okay.
Thank God man, you are okay and healthy. Be blessed!

Nice that it wasn't something serious back in 2013 but you didn't post the results back then lol.

You should lock the thread and let Phinnaeus Gage open a new one.

Welcome to Bitcointalk. Necroposts happen because there are signature spammers trying to fulfill their quota.

Don't be surprised if that guy also bumps one of the earliest threads on this forum :D

I hereby make an appeal to all seeing this thread to help somehow Phinnaeus Gage. I will open a separate thread too, just waiting to see what he needs. But I can't stand just like that, taking no action.

no need to lock simply, update the OP

We all die! The best help is to accept Jesus as your Savior, so that you will be raised from the dead the last day, and sent to Heaven for eternity.

8)

damn while we are celebrating about OP did not really have this Cancer and Now you're there and having this serious case?

let me extend my Prayers for your relief and medication,God will always there for Us if we will only extend our hands for Him.

life is too short to spend for bad feelings,Enjoy to the fullest mate and be with your family more needed now.

You are with me on this one mate,may God save us all.

So sad to hear this Bruno. One of the few men with any honour in the early bitcoin years. Holding out a warm thought for you.

Actually, Jesus did a trick. He tricked us. The trick is this. He took the punishment for all people for all the bad and wrong things they did. There isn't any punishment for earthly sins any longer - except in limited ways in this life... consequences.

So, what is the punishment in Hell going to be for? Basically one thing. Resisting the Holy Spirit Who is trying to work in the hearts/minds of people to believe the salvation that Jesus already did.

In the past, one sin could condemn you to eternity in Hell. And that one sin could be one of many. And certainly we are flawed by many sins. So, we were certainly aimed at Hell by everything that we do in this life.

But since Jesus took the punishment for all our sins, there is nothing to be punished for any longer... except one thing. Not believing it, which really is not accepting a position on God's side, in favor of God.

If a person doesn't want God, if he doesn't recognize that Jesus is God (because nobody can take the punishment for all wrongdoing like Jesus did without having the strength of God), such a person is resisting the Holy Spirit working in his heart. That resistance is the only sin that is left. And there is no forgiveness for it... the only unforgiven sin.

8)

the turning point!

i wish you all , just ... health

Elias Ch.

You are right that all work requires good luck and health is the key to our survival I don't think it's good to talk to your family because you have cancer. Regular treatment without getting discouraged will be better. Keeping your health healthy and moving forward is very good for your family.

Any update???? Are you still alive??? Do you have cancer or what??!

Bruh...

This is true for OP (back in 2013) but the thing is that now (in 2020) it is Phinnaeus Gage which is why i suggested another thread to avoid confusion.

Yup, OP better lock this thread or else we'll see the same thing over and over.