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Title: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: nick_bogdan on May 12, 2018, 02:45:34 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Kizaki on May 12, 2018, 02:55:53 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

Have your own mark as when to buy and sell bitcoin. Take note that pump and dump is not a new scheme that whales do in crypto market, if you are late on selling just hold, some time soon the whales will be pumping the market again. Take note that whales will not always control the market, once mass adaptation happens, the mass can out play the whales as more and more people hold bitcoin.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: novaprime on May 12, 2018, 03:13:19 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
In order to fight the shark's killer strategy, you need to have a strong mentality to deal with it.
The Crypto market is for those who have a strong mind and are consistent with their opinions. Consistency will help you a lot in the fight against shark's FUD / FOMO. In addition, you need to have your own market evaluation and analysis to get a good foundation. When you have a good background, FUD / FOMO will never affect you.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Baofeng on May 12, 2018, 03:59:56 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

HODL is the best weapon from this kind of so manipulation. Other's go with the flow, buying in dips and when the whales started to make a sell, they usually dump as well and just rebuy in dips. The only problem is that you don't know when are the whales going to dump it, You might be sleeping across the globe while there are a lot of actions going on. So for me, I would rather HODL my coins for long term and will just sell if the condition is ripe for the taking.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: dragone on May 12, 2018, 04:12:13 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

HODL is the best weapon from this kind of so manipulation. Other's go with the flow, buying in dips and when the whales started to make a sell, they usually dump as well and just rebuy in dips. The only problem is that you don't know when are the whales going to dump it, You might be sleeping across the globe while there are a lot of actions going on. So for me, I would rather HODL my coins for long term and will just sell if the condition is ripe for the taking.
Agree with you about HODL. That's the best way for now but this way need a lof of patience. I used group of signals, tried to sell or buy, pump and dump and this is the easiest way to lose your money I can say. I think a lot of people here have the same experience with all of these "signal groups".


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Crypto_trader87 on May 12, 2018, 04:28:08 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

Have your own mark as when to buy and sell bitcoin. Take note that pump and dump is not a new scheme that whales do in crypto market, if you are late on selling just hold, some time soon the whales will be pumping the market again. Take note that whales will not always control the market, once mass adaptation happens, the mass can out play the whales as more and more people hold bitcoin.

Thats true some whales can manipulate pump and dump but if realy more people want to adopt that coins then even  whales cant control that price anymore. They are just the one who started it and people will end it sometimes.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 12, 2018, 04:34:20 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
If you want to save your self from bump and dump tactic we also need to follow their tactic that we need to buy at the price is low and sell them when the price is high,and never invest on any coin which price os rapidly increasing in short term because chance of correction is highly possible.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Sinecoin on May 12, 2018, 04:34:39 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

The only people who become prey to these pump and dump schemes are people who look to others for investing advice and/or people who invest in low volume market.  If you want to avoid this, make your own price predictions that arent based off of what anyone said and stay away from low volume coins.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: LogitechMouse on May 12, 2018, 04:36:57 PM
I think the best way to prevent you for becoming a prey to them is to not buy the coins that have been pumped already. In short, don't FOMO yourself. Don't think that you will join the ride for you think it will give you profit because it is going up and up. This is a good way to gain profit but there is a huge risk with this. You must manage risk because if you join the ride and bought at a high price, there is a tendency that the whales will dump their bought coin in your face and you will be in serious problem in the end.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: a2offrb on May 12, 2018, 04:57:24 PM
It is worthy of note at this juncture to emphatically clears the erroneous belief that only the The Crypto Whales/Sharks or Big Boys can manipulate the prices of Cryptocurrencies. They may be carrying some portion, does not mean they are the sole Prices Determinants. Some other varied factors are also significant/eminents. Having said this, individual self discipline can simultaneously plays a vital role not to fall a victim of circumstances or as prey to these Maggots.  It's however pertinent to apply extra cautiousness when huge dumps or pumps kick-started suddenly with no trace of any FUD, because the reverse shall very soon be witnessed/experienced for you to take your personal decision of whether to hold, buy more or sell at that particular moment.

More so, Market Trend Analysis Chat should from time to time be studied as another great or qualitative indicator which can also aids your direction on this Pump and Dump tactic.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: luckyluigi on May 12, 2018, 05:11:09 PM
I always sell panic, because I cant keep myself straight minded and calm. So i preffer not to looking on a pice that periods, heh


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: acener on May 12, 2018, 05:14:37 PM
The best thing that you can do if you cannot get along with the pump and dump tactic is just to HODL if you are late in selling during the peak. The market recovers in time. Impatient people tend to lose a lot of money in crypto, as long as you are not selling during the peak you are not losing any money. Just HODL.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: usekevin on May 12, 2018, 07:09:10 PM
You can fight with that whale with the patience.If you want to be free from dump and pump tactics,just hold your valuable bitcoin.And you should have a brave mindset.You should not get panic by the fluctuation in the market.You have to consider it as a common one and hold your bitcoin.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Zadicar on May 12, 2018, 07:20:30 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
Theres no way that you can avoid such thing because as an investor if you arent a whale then you are really prone to be caught into those situations like dumps in the market which causes for you to have negative floating which would possibly for you to cut loss or panic sell.They do have the capability since they do have the money to move market prices or do influence its movements and thats how it goes.As a small time trader or investor instead on minding how to avoid its much wiser for you to think on how you would gonna ride their movements.Very hard thing but once you will able to analyze then you would really be profitable for sure.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Reid on May 12, 2018, 07:22:29 PM
You will have to be wise when it comes to this.
Know if it is just a hype. It is not just about whales anymore when a lot of hamsters have been pulled inside. It will also create a good hype that could make some profits. But the real question is not how but when?
When is that right time? We do not know who the whales are or the hamsters. So you will rely on your instinct or not to be greedy. Take the safest way, withdraw with small profits. Do not regret even if it goes up.
That is the real problem actually. Greed.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: just_Alice on May 12, 2018, 07:39:23 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

Well, my suggestion is to track cryptocurrency price changes before investing in it. Invest only in coins, that have been stable for a long period of time. But as for me, when the price increases too suddenly it always seems like a trap. And mostly people now that, but nevertheless they buy out of greediness. So the basic rule to save your money and make a successful investment: don't be greedy.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Aleister Crowley on May 12, 2018, 07:40:56 PM
this is a very classic trading game and often happens in the year 2017 and its impact., prices are becoming reluctant to rise this year, maybe that could be one of the reasons why bitcoin prices always fall again after crawling up ,, may be due to bitcoin dump


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Gwapoman on May 12, 2018, 08:22:34 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
Just stay away from those pump and dump groups they will only make you look dumb..especially if you are not a VIP premium member...VIP members gets signals 5-7 minutes ahead before they broadcast it in free members group..most of their victims here are those free members who believe theyre gonna make quick profits but end up lossing big amounts or will be holding their coins for a very long time til they recover.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Agat22 on May 12, 2018, 08:42:49 PM
I think it's a primitive view of what's going on in the market. No need to try to guess what they think and what other players are going to do. It's unlikely to happen.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: danherbias07 on May 12, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
It is an old trick but still working.
I think that is how this world will actually work until it is doomed to end.
Those who have the most valuable thing (money) in this world will be the one having control with the market. Sound pretty lame but that is how it goes on up until now.
There will always be whales, you can be one. There is no right partition of the coins so as long as someone can buy then he can do it until he gets the higher percentage of the whole amount of the token and can somehow shake the market with how much he holds.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Vencas1 on May 12, 2018, 11:20:14 PM
The pump and dump snares a lot of inexperienced traders. I fomo'ed right up and bought some bags at the top within my first few days of trading.  Experience and knowledge help you keep it in check.  I won't touch a pump and dump.  There's no safe way to play it, unless you are the pumper I guess.  Learning how to set up for breakout trades was a big help for me in learning entries and exits and helped me keep calm  and wait for my spot.(breakouts- not p&d).
If it goes up it will pull back at some point.  People need to take profit somewhere.  If you missed it, you missed it- there's going to be plenty more opportunity to catch another.
Cheers


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: bitterguy28 on May 12, 2018, 11:40:59 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
In order to fight the shark's killer strategy, you need to have a strong mentality to deal with it.
The Crypto market is for those who have a strong mind and are consistent with their opinions. Consistency will help you a lot in the fight against shark's FUD / FOMO. In addition, you need to have your own market evaluation and analysis to get a good foundation. When you have a good background, FUD / FOMO will never affect you.

actually your right mate need to strong for the investment hold it tight incase the pump and dump group or the whales starting to play and manipulate the bitcoin movement or including crypto currency, i suggest those people have an small amount of bitcoin they have please in times of dump do not panic just stay relax do not ride to the big whales.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Tashi on May 12, 2018, 11:48:50 PM
Whales are really trying to trap all us out. For example a bull trap. That's how. The secret to this in order for you not to fall at their trap is to set your goal. Sell at this price or that.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: entrepmind23 on May 13, 2018, 12:16:58 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

One of the ways to not be able to catch the dumped is to have a trading plan and if there is a possibility for you to study technical analysis then please do so because many people are still using technical analysis especially if it is a high volume coin. If you study the fibonacci retracement and extension, there would be price levels in there and if you plot it in the chart, you can see that more often than not, price would bounce in these levels as the traders are either buying or taking profits in that level. Plotting the trend lines, knowing the support and resistance levels is important too including the psychological resitance which is recently the $10k level.

To avoid being dumped, you should put trailing stops to secure profits in which when the price goes up, you should put a conditional order to sell your coin when the price suddenly goes down and then have a stop loss too if ever the price of the coin went down after you bought it. If the coin makes a parabolic move then expect that it will bounce and correct. The problem with most of the traders especially those new to the market is being hype that's why they are just transferring their funds to the people who knows the market for some time.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Gwapoman on May 13, 2018, 12:36:03 AM
The pump and dump snares a lot of inexperienced traders. I fomo'ed right up and bought some bags at the top within my first few days of trading.  Experience and knowledge help you keep it in check.  I won't touch a pump and dump.  There's no safe way to play it, unless you are the pumper I guess.  Learning how to set up for breakout trades was a big help for me in learning entries and exits and helped me keep calm  and wait for my spot.(breakouts- not p&d).
If it goes up it will pull back at some point.  People need to take profit somewhere.  If you missed it, you missed it- there's going to be plenty more opportunity to catch another.
Cheers
Yes its true..organizers and their paid VIP members whos been paying 0.1 btc for their monthly subscriptions are the only people benefitting from these pump and dump group... early morning today, ive been watching a signal service group in telegram the call was btc/yoyo pair in binance when i check that pair its already 30% pump..max it reached is 39% and they dumped it down to 16% in less than a minute..organizers gets 25-30%,vip members 20-25% ,premium members gets 15-20% and free members are the biggest losers..😣😣😣..


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: francesyrus on May 13, 2018, 01:24:06 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 



If the so called whales in crypto trading is making huge profit why not we go with them, I mean lets buy when the crypto goes dump so deep and wait for a bull run so that we can have profit too. In the way not only whales can have profit, we too as well.  ;D

We always know that rich people can control everything with their money.....


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Hemady17 on May 13, 2018, 01:27:26 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

If this is the case of the whales then we can outmaneuver them predicting the mid-price of the pump then we perform exit. Actually whales are just like us small player who are not susceptible in loss. They are actually experience loss but the difference is they have high percentage of winning. What we need to do is to become a good fisherman; find those whales ahead from our boat. This strategy is proven to be effective.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: jaocoincrypto18 on May 13, 2018, 01:37:15 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

I think this is difficult to avoid them because their games of pump and dump is unpredictable too in which they don't have monthly and yearly schedule to initiate their manipulation of the market. Except if we have close friends that in contact with them then we could able to ride to their games and make a profit too in which it will be very fortunate for us but if we don't know them then all we can do is to hold our coins.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: MaidaKalani on May 13, 2018, 01:48:15 AM
Actions like these that will harm real investors. Because investors with relatively limited capital, will suffer great losses due to the act of "cukong" who is greedy and want to reap huge profits.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: anavir on May 13, 2018, 02:03:39 AM
the pump and dump tactic..as a crypto investor you have to be more kin and focus on the movement of your investment.Observed that when it goes down you have to hold your cryptocurrency.Instead of trading it,it is time to buy more but when it is pumping it is the best time to trade to have the profit you are wanting


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: pooya87 on May 13, 2018, 03:33:22 AM
~ How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?

very easily!
you have taken the first step which is the most important one: accepting the fact that altcoins are getting pumped and dumped.
after accepting that, it is only time for knowing how to use it successfully. this means selling before the rest of the market started dumping on you. in order to do this you can take different approaches. for example one common easy one is to set a percentage profit that you want to achieve and whenever you reached that mark, you sell without hesitation. this way you take your money and profit out and ignore the market. another method is a little riskier but is still good, you watch the market and keep holding the shitcoin that is getting pumped until you notice the pump slowing down and when you see the first dump starting. the timing is very important here though, you need to act fast.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: PETES on May 13, 2018, 05:42:33 AM
Whales are really trying to trap all us out. For example a bull trap. That's how. The secret to this in order for you not to fall at their trap is to set your goal. Sell at this price or that.

A bull trap that make people buy because they think that market will be in bullish and that's how they'll caught you. The fact that we're just too small to stop these whales from their manipulation. But just look at bigger picture here, we can also benefit in their manipulation if we know how to play the market too, so therefore just learn to go with their flow.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: kulitmanggis on May 13, 2018, 05:54:03 AM
I think you should be able to take advantage of such moments, most pumps and dumps will be kept secret but if there is some news circulating in the media that tells the progress of the project it is certain the price will quickly move and take advantage of such moments to seek profits very much.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Ararbermas on May 13, 2018, 05:59:25 AM
To become prey in crypto market is not easy which is you must have a huge money on it to pump the value in the market so that you can convince more investors to contribute as well until the price increase more.  'cause that's how the whales play in the market which is they will put a huge capital on it to convince more investors to contribute  then after they gained enough on the bull trend or let say if they already achieve their target they will manipulate it asap while others didn't sell off .So IMO huge capital is the most. Important in the market if you want to become a prey 'cause tbh only big players can control or can manipulate the price nowadays.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: alan2here on May 13, 2018, 06:01:57 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
I have known this tactic for a long time and I have a way to fight it. The best way is to convert all altcoin to USDT. It is a coin that is never affected by fluctuations.
I'm just a trader trading day and watching the market go down is an opportunity to make a profit. I think that's the best way to avoid the big fish's strategy.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Nonie on May 13, 2018, 06:43:05 AM
pumps and dumps are something that is very risky to learn a lot about analysis candle is very important to avoid the pump and dump by whales


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: luckyluigi on May 13, 2018, 06:45:18 AM
I like that moment, when the projects ICO is ended and in a few weeks hunters are getting their coins, it is a place for big dump


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: supermine on May 13, 2018, 06:53:05 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
If you want to save your self from bump and dump tactic we also need to follow their tactic that we need to buy at the price is low and sell them when the price is high,and never invest on any coin which price os rapidly increasing in short term because chance of correction is highly possible.
Yes,agree with this.We also need to follow their tactic or strategy but this is the basic rule to be followed in crypto currency trading Buy low and Sell high.But not all the market price movements are by whales,some of them are actually happening due to many factors like manipulation and world economy status and even stock market also take a part in the crypto curency prices.
Well if you can understand that the manipulation is done then we can make their manipulation into beneficial for our side.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ibuddy122505 on May 13, 2018, 07:24:35 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
Yes, It's been a long time saw how those whales manipulate the market in a single day or in short. As expected noobs are effected and gonna be a terrible experience. Their average investor will always lose! Catch the markets tend, buy the dip and sell in the high along whales! Also move in USDT to keep it safe, right away.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Lazada on May 13, 2018, 07:54:40 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
The price manipulation in the world of cryptocurrencies can not be avoided. It will always be there because cryptocurrencies provide a freedom so anyone can invest by buying and selling a coin. Pumps and dumps are always there since the start of the era of cryptocurrencies, so I think this is a normal thing and all we have to do is to take the opportunity and do not go wrong in taking the momentum to make a decision.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: richcorner100 on May 13, 2018, 08:34:49 AM
Crypto price still has low volume that why easy for whales doing that, i know whales has community and they work together. Mostly all price action of crypto has high volatility but that all not because whales, there are other factor like fundamental, regulation and inovation.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Pamadar on May 13, 2018, 11:14:43 AM
Crypto price still has low volume that why easy for whales doing that, i know whales has community and they work together. Mostly all price action of crypto has high volatility but that all not because whales, there are other factor like fundamental, regulation and inovation.
From time to time additional investors will come and go, maybe since there's low volume where whales can easily work together and play with what is ongoing market flow, I would say that this easily done because those who have a lots of money can buy and hold a bagholds of coins then wait for the timing before selling it out, so that tactics would work and whales can easy take money from this business.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: renes on May 13, 2018, 12:25:18 PM
That is said many times for stock markets and suitable for crypto as well: if you are not a whale, you can't beat them, you should just hodl, only by hodling you can win.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Ewinsane on May 16, 2018, 06:33:06 AM
Crypto price still has low volume that why easy for whales doing that, i know whales has community and they work together. Mostly all price action of crypto has high volatility but that all not because whales, there are other factor like fundamental, regulation and inovation.
If you manage to perform well at time of pump and dump without facing any kind of worries, then I can guarantee you that you will end up making lot of money and that you will be then able to turn all your dreams into reality. During pump and dump, you need to keep your nerves under your control and that you need to stay patient so that you can think and decide well.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: robertkamerer on May 16, 2018, 07:41:47 AM
HODLing as an exit strategy in failed pump and dumps can prove to be dangerous if the coin in question is not solid.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: mico on May 16, 2018, 07:51:33 AM
 ;D sometime I dont see any tactic here. just because many people panic sell that will make a huge dump or a fking awesome pump. that's all


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: el kaka22 on May 16, 2018, 04:16:23 PM
The only way to survive those moments is to know when you are buying and when you are getting those huge profits, do not get greedy to be expecting more. Most times, the best thing you can do to yourself is to keep selling bit by bit into FOMO as it can pop at any time, and come back correcting. As long as you can do this and have a target for your particular investment, then you should be fine. A lot of people always feel they can outplay the market, but it would always be one step ahead of you and best is to play safe.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: asyakashi on May 16, 2018, 04:44:36 PM
;D sometime I dont see any tactic here. just because many people panic sell that will make a huge dump or a fking awesome pump. that's all
I also include people who do not like complicated strategies, because trading is an experience and knowledge increases over time.
forget and be yourself.  ;)


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: campica on May 16, 2018, 07:25:32 PM
I never buy coins that are in pump and dump situation. I saw many telegram group that collecting big amount of members and then every 3 days they give one coin to pump and dump. You can notice when coin grow for 800% or even 1500%. Just ignore that coin , because you will probably lose money. I think that admins of that telegram group buy coins few days before for cheap price and then when members of group start buying (pump), admins just dump when they get atleast 300%. That you should avoid that group.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Granit0 on May 16, 2018, 08:11:01 PM
I participated in pump and damp games in the market. I had a bot for trading on signals, also the bot was tracking market fluctuations. But I did not get much profit, because the main beneficiaries are the creators of pumps.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ballerin and giroud on May 16, 2018, 08:21:32 PM
So you blame whales if everyone including you incur losses? that is a sad statement. In trading you have to learn for not to be greedy, if you already benefit you can sell bitcoin or altcoin you have. Braving to get bigger is the wrong way, the impact if you get the loss easily you blame others. I agree with HOLD, your loss will be remedied if whales buy coin back.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: billbear on May 16, 2018, 08:48:05 PM
Especially dump tactic works, when all  the guys get their bounty tokes, lol. They will immediatelly dump to bottom.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Oilacris on May 16, 2018, 08:55:10 PM
So you blame whales if everyone including you incur losses? that is a sad statement. In trading you have to learn for not to be greedy, if you already benefit you can sell bitcoin or altcoin you have. Braving to get bigger is the wrong way, the impact if you get the loss easily you blame others. I agree with HOLD, your loss will be remedied if whales buy coin back.
We cant really avoid on these kind of thinking or we do have high chance on experiencing this one where we do blame someone specially whales when we lose up money on doing trading.It would really come to our mind that they might really be the possible reason on such loss thats why we say things and either believe that this thing was true but somehow there are factors that this will really be true but on the other side if you can able to go along with whales you can also benefits.Its just a matter of timing.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Dart18 on May 16, 2018, 09:01:10 PM
It will only work if you are that rich.  ;D
Well they are risking their money here. If it doesn't work then they will have to withdraw with a loss.
Think about it, one fake starting token that they will invest with a lot of money then suddenly it is a scam.
I guess who should just be careful on what choices we will make. Pump or dump, you will decide when you will buy or sell.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: cexylikepie on May 17, 2018, 09:35:35 PM
So you blame whales if everyone including you incur losses? that is a sad statement. In trading you have to learn for not to be greedy, if you already benefit you can sell bitcoin or altcoin you have. Braving to get bigger is the wrong way, the impact if you get the loss easily you blame others. I agree with HOLD, your loss will be remedied if whales buy coin back.
If we do not have the whales, we will not have the market. The whales are the people to make the market can still has movement to create the change in the value of the trading asset. Example Gold, why the profit from trading always lower than the profit from other financial markets? Because its value fixed stable by the government.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: keykey1 on May 19, 2018, 02:15:03 PM
That is said many times for stock markets and suitable for crypto as well: if you are not a whale, you can't beat them, you should just hodl, only by hodling you can win.

Of course, it is better just to be patient and hold the altcoins that you keep. However, it is so difficult!  you have to wait for a very long time before the prices of your cryptocurrency will grow.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: rickadone on May 19, 2018, 04:45:12 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
If you want to save your self from bump and dump tactic we also need to follow their tactic that we need to buy at the price is low and sell them when the price is high,and never invest on any coin which price os rapidly increasing in short term because chance of correction is highly possible.
But there is what they call FOMO anyway, and most times, every coin can have such potential. The truth is to just try as much as possible to always have a plan and only those who are gluttonous in nature are the ones who would not be selling into FOMO.

Like they always say, the institutions will always buy when it is low and sell when the buying spree is becoming too much and the likelihood of a huge correction is imminent. Otherwise, the best thing is just to trade the trend. If we want to protect against the sudden pump and dump players, it is always recommended to hold for some longer periods. It is a proven way of generating profits which must be more than what we can get from active trading.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Sergio444 on May 19, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

Well, whales have greater influence on the market prices of coins but lets clarify this. You points seem like they have sole control over all coins on the market and that they decide when a coin is dumped and pumped. If a coin will be dumped it is much dependent on the  ICO managers, the whales, and the bounty hunters. ICO managers who are really serious with their project will never make a dump of their coins. They put much value in the coin even at the ICO period. hunters are always scared of the fact that a coin will be a shit coin and so once thay get hold of it, they set any price for that coin. The system of trading is not the best, bidding is not the best at all.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Sean25pogi on June 05, 2018, 05:47:57 AM
The best tactic that you can do about pump and dump is wait and hold the investments if the value of it have a low amount to be offered on the market then when the time comes that the value of it change in higher amount, it is your opportunity to sell it in the public.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Geurangsang on June 05, 2018, 07:09:27 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
I think we never suck with whales. They are just making more profit for us with their pump. Maybe that can be effected for new arrivals of crypto trading and make they disappointed with their opinion before start trade. I think this is the best part in crypto trading. Some time we must hunt with time to get profit and some time we must sell for cut.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: enawati on June 05, 2018, 09:09:23 AM
A few hours ago i have seen any different chart and price action of Union coin in different exchange, look like some trader try to pump the coin in cryptopia exchange because this exchange has low volume. But in Kucoin exchange the price did not pump, how can this possible, same coin but different price. I think pump dump tactic just make bad thing with liquidity.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: muratdur on June 05, 2018, 11:41:38 AM
I really love those two because if you examine the market and if you learn how to know those two cases, then you can have a great profit from them


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: winspiral on June 05, 2018, 11:44:16 AM
If you like pump and dump try my trading airdrop faucet for free and show us your skill.
I'm wondering if all the specialists here are good traders.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Jating on June 05, 2018, 12:03:16 PM
A few hours ago i have seen any different chart and price action of Union coin in different exchange, look like some trader try to pump the coin in cryptopia exchange because this exchange has low volume. But in Kucoin exchange the price did not pump, how can this possible, same coin but different price. I think pump dump tactic just make bad thing with liquidity.

Yeah, as you have explained, it possible that 2 coins can have 2 different prices in 2 different exchanges because just some pump-and-dump groups starting to pump it in a less known trading exchanges as compare to Kucoin that the exchanges might red flag it for suspicious or artificial prices so just be careful.

I have seen this numerous times already, less known trading sites are usually the target of this group because of low trading volumes. But what amazes me is how those group really set it up, sometimes a month before the actual pump, they will purchased the coins at cheap price and will declared that they can manipulate it because they are holding as much as 40% of the market. Obviously, paid members will really entice to join and pay premium prices, sadly though the actual dump already happen way before they announced it in their group, and all was left was a profit divided amongst the members.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Casdinyard on June 05, 2018, 01:55:02 PM
I think there's nothing we can do here but to just follow these whales though somehow we wish we could do something. The least we can do is learn how to play in the market and be wise and think like a whale. And just see the brighter side of this as in the end we all profited to this, so just hang on.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: MMA on June 06, 2018, 11:27:45 PM
I really love those two because if you examine the market and if you learn how to know those two cases, then you can have a great profit from them
Pump and dump is always giving opportunities to trade bitcoin in a low price and then sell it in high price when the bitcoin or any other altcoin increase too much, so pump and jump are an important part of our life, specially if we are related with crypto trading.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Omegasun on June 06, 2018, 11:46:30 PM
I really love those two because if you examine the market and if you learn how to know those two cases, then you can have a great profit from them
Pump and dump is always giving opportunities to trade bitcoin in a low price and then sell it in high price when the bitcoin or any other altcoin increase too much, so pump and jump are an important part of our life, specially if we are related with crypto trading.
This scenario is what every focused trader waiting for especially those who did day trading. We can really earn whenever the coins price fluctuates unexpectedly or whenever there are some hype in a coin.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Abrefalll on June 07, 2018, 12:02:56 AM
This is crypto and if anyone is manipulating prices, you should always find the opportunity and play it to your advantage. When you identify that the coin is in a 'pump and dump' situation, you should always monitor the prices and check at what percentage it rises everytime and the percentage it falls too. With these in mind, you get the chance to sell around the percentage it rises and sell at around the percentage at which it falls.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: abaidudez on June 07, 2018, 12:08:44 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
We can never get away with it the rich has the power to do it. If you wanna ride with that kind of manipulation you need to have a huge capital and make sure you can dump it to the right time also. It really goes that way when noone is regulating it. The rich become richer and the poor remains poor.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: jimrome on June 07, 2018, 12:40:28 AM
If you like pump and dump try my trading airdrop faucet for free and show us your skill.
I'm wondering if all the specialists here are good traders.
The specialist likes to speculate and nothing else, i really doubt they trade in the first place and majority are paid specialist who likes to advertise other coins and nothing else, yobit is one exchange you will see majority of the dump and dump thing occurs as they have a lot of fake coins which is meant for these sort of activities, i would not trust these coins as i do not want to be the bag holder.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ocid on June 07, 2018, 02:12:54 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
We can never get away with it the rich has the power to do it. If you wanna ride with that kind of manipulation you need to have a huge capital and make sure you can dump it to the right time also. It really goes that way when noone is regulating it. The rich become richer and the poor remains poor.
true, the rich have the power that can be done arbitrarily. they can easily manipulate market price movements, but they are not from individuals, but there are communities that plan when it's time for Dump and Pump. when prices are lower they can attract investors to invest in them, but after many people invest, the market price movements are compactly dropped by the whaling community so they can easily take advantage of the declining market situation by buying more from people who sold it because of panic


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: jaocoincrypto18 on June 07, 2018, 02:24:50 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

If we don't have friends that are connected to these whales then i believed there is nothing we can do but just to hold our coins and always monitor the market movement so that we could ride on them because for me these people are really unpredictable in which their activities are very difficult to predict making the crypto currencies investments to become more risky.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: mornabo on June 07, 2018, 02:52:16 AM
I really love those two because if you examine the market and if you learn how to know those two cases, then you can have a great profit from them
Pump and dump is always giving opportunities to trade bitcoin in a low price and then sell it in high price when the bitcoin or any other altcoin increase too much, so pump and jump are an important part of our life, specially if we are related with crypto trading.
Pump and dump is the most important part of a trade because of the two things you will get a big profit if you can sell when the
price of pump and buy when dump, but for some months it seems the pump has not happened at all, and it makes many traders panic


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on June 07, 2018, 03:03:46 AM
If you know that the coin is being pumped up suddenly without any showing any signs of any slight intervals of increase then expect that you had been a prey of one of those coins.
Two things:
1. End up with net losses
2. Get cents


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on June 07, 2018, 03:25:11 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
You have to be updated. You have to read the news. If you suspect that the coin is being pumped, look for any news or update with the project and see if there's any development. If there's none, look at the timing and how huge is the drop with a specified time. If the coin you are holding suddenly dropped and you suspect that its the fault of whales then just hold on to it. Sometimes, whales dump their coins so others will follow so whales can buy again at a lower price then price will go back to its previous price when the coin was dumped.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: karungbitcoin on June 07, 2018, 04:27:14 AM
Pump and dump is just make the liquidity bad and make many trader lose in big amount. I avoid this kind of trading, and better to trading in coins that has high volume. Will be hard for whales to manipulates the price in coin that has high volume.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Indrawan77 on June 07, 2018, 05:22:22 AM
Well you can prevent yourself from whales by getting a lot of information, if the rising is suspicious, like its rising above 100% in day then you need to be careful and find the reason behind the rising, you can join pump and dump groups to avoid yourself become victim, pump activity sometimes is very obvious and make the price doesn't make any sense at all


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: putrisa on June 07, 2018, 05:25:10 AM
yes you are right there are some tactics that they hide but we usually can analyze what happened and how they work, usually dump and pump will choose coin that do not have high trading volume so they make profit for himself first new followers, more well you do not follow the game too much because it can hurt you.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Olatunjex on June 07, 2018, 09:06:11 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
You are totally right, there are certain things you can do in order to avoid or to become prey of such kind of whales.
Don't buy a coin while it is in the green zone a lot of entry at that point might lead to a loss or hold for long term before you can get your initial capital
Always buy when it is in red zone it is the best time to make an entry exit immediately you have little gain, don't be too greedy looking for maximum profit.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: longminh123 on June 07, 2018, 09:10:57 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
The easiest way for, there are many relationships with people who are better than us in the field Cryptocurrency. They will help you understand more about manipulation and help you avoid it. Strong psychology is the most important thing to avoid manipulation. You should trust Crypto before investing in it. Because only faith will help you overcome that trap.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: yousbabtle on June 21, 2018, 06:38:34 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

HODL is the best weapon from this kind of so manipulation. Other's go with the flow, buying in dips and when the whales started to make a sell, they usually dump as well and just rebuy in dips. The only problem is that you don't know when are the whales going to dump it, You might be sleeping across the globe while there are a lot of actions going on. So for me, I would rather HODL my coins for long term and will just sell if the condition is ripe for the taking.
Well, that is one way to deal with it if you do not have any trading idea. However, for a trader who is trying to be careful, it requires great knowledge and discipline. Discipline in the sense that when you are making huge profit, do not be looking for a better value. In fact, you should be setting your sell order when you are in a market. Unfortunately, even in FOMO, some will just keep getting ravenous until they miss it and then ending up selling lower.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Idrisu on June 21, 2018, 06:45:12 AM
The whales has been existing in every form of business and manipulations is the tool that they used in making Alot of money from the market.  Pumping and dumping is a cycle that repeated itself in cryptocurrencies market and if you are wise investors even without much knowledge on how things work you can actually makes money from this activity.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: sana54210 on June 21, 2018, 06:54:41 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
In order to fight the shark's killer strategy, you need to have a strong mentality to deal with it.
The Crypto market is for those who have a strong mind and are consistent with their opinions. Consistency will help you a lot in the fight against shark's FUD / FOMO. In addition, you need to have your own market evaluation and analysis to get a good foundation. When you have a good background, FUD / FOMO will never affect you.
I guess it all balls down to your ability to control your level of greed. The same way people get greedy looking for a lower price to buy when they should be accumulating at the dip is the same way they get greedy when a price is increasing hugely until they miss the ATH.

It is always important to never get greedy in any market, have a set out plan, where you want to be taking profit and even if it goes further, and you want to get in, be sure to manage the risk well, but at the end, as long as you are still making profit, that is what is important.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: breathlessz on June 21, 2018, 07:16:22 AM
The whales has been existing in every form of business and manipulations is the tool that they used in making Alot of money from the market.  Pumping and dumping is a cycle that repeated itself in cryptocurrencies market and if you are wise investors even without much knowledge on how things work you can actually makes money from this activity.
i think it is difficult to follow the movement of whales, but if we can know it, then we will get rich quick, for that learn to analyze when whales will move i think is important thing besides technical analysis


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: matchi2011 on June 21, 2018, 07:42:54 AM
The whales has been existing in every form of business and manipulations is the tool that they used in making Alot of money from the market.  Pumping and dumping is a cycle that repeated itself in cryptocurrencies market and if you are wise investors even without much knowledge on how things work you can actually makes money from this activity.
i think it is difficult to follow the movement of whales, but if we can know it, then we will get rich quick, for that learn to analyze when whales will move i think is important thing besides technical analysis
Yes mate, if we will be able to follow how whales moves then we will be able to take advantage and earned a lot like them, learning to read the flow
of movements of certain coins will give some ideas whether the whale is already inside the project, most of the time continuous movements of a
certain project without any updates or any ongoing progress will be some hint for us.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: coffigayo on June 21, 2018, 10:51:51 AM
The best you can do if you do not fit the pump and throw away the tactics just to hold back if you are late selling during peak. The market recovers on time. An impatient person tends to lose a lot of money in Cryptocurrancy as long as you do not sell for peak you do not lose money, just hold it. But extra vigilance is required when a large dump or pump starts unexpectedly without a FUD trace, because the reverse will soon be witnessed or experienced for you to make a personal decision whether to hold, buy more or sell at that time. In addition, Market Trend Analysis Analysis should come from the pump and dump tactics.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: YCryptos on June 30, 2018, 04:49:37 PM
You can not become a victim of large whales in two ways. 1) Do not deal with crypto-currency. 2) Do not sell your crypto-currency assets under any circumstances.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Cryptotenuse on July 19, 2018, 11:53:55 PM
While explaining how Whales organize their pump and dumps you forgot to mention that before the intensive buying which will rise the price, they spend a lot of time accumulating cheap coins, bought slowly so as not to make them more expensive.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Oceat on July 19, 2018, 11:58:09 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
It is a well known strategy already since most people notices it already and they know that it could be manipulated if you do have a lot of money and it's not new to them since it does happen in real world too. So, if you can't do anything about it and can't do nothing then you should've ride it or else you will left behind while the other are on the other side. I guess everything is not that perfect but still they do have usefulness in our daily lives so we must accept that fact.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Barbut on July 20, 2018, 12:12:20 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
It is a well known strategy already since most people notices it already and they know that it could be manipulated if you do have a lot of money and it's not new to them since it does happen in real world too. So, if you can't do anything about it and can't do nothing then you should've ride it or else you will left behind while the other are on the other side. I guess everything is not that perfect but still they do have usefulness in our daily lives so we must accept that fact.
This is the game where just few people make profit while the rest of the people lose money. I don`t like pump and dump groups and I don`t participate in this scams, cause that`s they are big scams, and only one who got scammed is some little fool, little fool lose last money in attempt to make some fast money.
People who support some coins for their technology are the ones who makes safe profit, people who rush to make fast profit with risky and shady businesses will lose their money. Support cryptocurrencies for what they really are and what should they be, don`t scam others when there are so many better ways for making profit.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Innerpumper on July 20, 2018, 12:37:03 AM
pump and dump is a technique the whales for profit instantly. However, it is very dangerous for the easily provoked emotions. We have to know how to berdangang the correct bitcoin for profit is good.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: dharnamonitor on July 20, 2018, 01:22:06 AM
I really love those two because if you examine the market and if you learn how to know those two cases, then you can have a great profit from them
Pump and dump is always giving opportunities to trade bitcoin in a low price and then sell it in high price when the bitcoin or any other altcoin increase too much, so pump and jump are an important part of our life, specially if we are related with crypto trading.

Yes that was the truth, it's just a matter of how fast you are to sell and get some profits. They are usually using those schemes on a certain cheaper and low trading volume coins, so if you have seen something unusual movements on those coins then stay away from it if you don't want to get involved.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: laracastvue on July 20, 2018, 02:54:09 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

Pump and dump tactics is obviously just the same as buying and selling in the right time in order to earn more profit when the market prices are changing.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: LuciferEveningStar on July 20, 2018, 03:43:35 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

They can only manipulate the market price by just creating a fake news or if there is a celebrity who is creating a negative speculation from market but aside from that, they will not be able to manipulate the market price since it was based on supply and demand.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: lushlife on July 20, 2018, 07:18:10 AM
That is why if you're outside the top 100 coins (in terms of marketcap)
you should be extra careful, because the coins there are prone to pump and
dump groups.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: duc4487 on July 20, 2018, 07:42:46 AM
The pump and dump tactic cause the volatility. When the price is keep rising, it make new investor feel like they have to buy in now or it's get too late. This thing happen for both crypto world and stock market, but the manipulation in token is greater. At that time, hold will be better solution


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: wastetimer1 on July 23, 2018, 01:04:56 PM
Whales are capable of manipulating pump and dump and you must be careful.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: dominos on July 23, 2018, 01:23:21 PM
Also talking about pump and dumps we need to say new people into cryptocurrency to just don't join these type of groups. It is better to pay big and join a big respected signal group than pnd scams. Just avoid these type of people and group, because it is a waste of money (or crypto :D )


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: volleyballslenderF on July 23, 2018, 09:35:53 PM
Holding is the best weapon is such a situation and you must do this.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: DiamondsAndCoins on July 23, 2018, 10:59:52 PM
THe pump and dump for sure seems like the whales #1 play.  If you get caught up in a pump and dump and your in the wrong side don't panic.  You will need to wait it out.  Only sell if your main reason for buying was effected.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: deus030518 on July 24, 2018, 05:18:08 AM
You need to study the pump and dump price of the crypto market. The pump and dump is caused by the volatile of the price in the market. If you do not know how to play with the pump and dump you might not earn big in the crypto. Because if you cannot manage the pump and dump then you might buy and sell at a wrong time. There is a right time to buy and sell or trade your crypto. In learning the pump and dump it will teach you how to manage the prices in the crypto market. It is not hard to study and learn the pump and dump of the prices. You just need to learn and study it carefully so that if you plan to buy crypto you will buy at dump and sell at pump.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: jessica2020 on July 24, 2018, 06:06:42 AM
Theres a lot of whales in the market. Holding it is the best option. If it is dump, it is the best time to buy some coins while it is low, when it pumps its the best way to sell your coins while it has a good price.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: 1978lover on July 24, 2018, 12:45:36 PM
I think holding is the best thing and I completely agree with you on this front.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: nealdlover on July 24, 2018, 02:18:08 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
I have never been trapped by whales, because I have a strategy to fight it. holds Bitcoin for a long time. Because the whales usually manipulate Bitcoin and pump at Bitcoin. Everything is in Bitcoin, we hold Bitcoin as a safe bet and never fear a hole.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Koro-Sensei on July 24, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
Yeah they've caused a lot of trouble for the new investors. It isn't a good tactic I mean you are basically laundering money from the poor minded people that doesn't really know how to have an effective way of earning. Whales are unfair bunch affecting way too many people just for their own benefit isn't commendable at all.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: onrise on July 24, 2018, 03:37:08 PM
I think holding is the best thing and I completely agree with you on this front.

It does work with the best coins as sometime the fall happens and then people sell it. But those who hold it in the long term will get the most of it as sometimes you need to forget about the short fall that happens and need to think for long term


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: btccoffee on July 24, 2018, 03:41:45 PM
This pump and dump tactics only for some duml people who realy dont know how to earn hard for money. They are a bunch of scammers who victimised people that have a poor knowledge in crypto like some newbie people.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Vanester2014 on July 24, 2018, 03:50:28 PM
They are mostly scammers thats using some huge group to drag peoples in there groups then gave a signal on which coins they want to buy and when the time comes that more people are buying they will also start selling there bags and all people where live at the peak because there coins already dump.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: LianaSie on July 24, 2018, 03:52:44 PM
Truly they are doing this, and that is one of the reasons why it is riskier to invest in smaller coins, because they are easier to manipulate.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Davinus on July 24, 2018, 04:10:25 PM
 If you are in a coin long that is being pumped, consider getting out or after riding the wave a bit) and flipping into Bitcoin with a portion of your coins. Then, if and when it comes back down, buy back in. This avoids you riding through both the pump and dump phase of your favorite coin (the pump will seem great, but the dump is not going to feel good. This being true if you aren’t concerned about taxes like the long term capital gains tax, which results in lower rates in the US for example, might be a reason to stay in a coin long despite a pump and dump.



Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Reatim on July 24, 2018, 04:22:12 PM
They are mostly scammers thats using some huge group to drag peoples in there groups then gave a signal on which coins they want to buy and when the time comes that more people are buying they will also start selling there bags and all people where live at the peak because there coins already dump.

Oh well, we can categorized them as scammers because they are really taking advantages of newbies just walking the door and them promising good returns but we all know that you can earn a lot without you paying the premium prices for the signals. So its good if you can stay away from them and do your homework do avoid lost of your money. I'm sure that all your hardwork will be paid at the end if you do study the coins that you are going to invest.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: JL421 on July 24, 2018, 05:42:03 PM
It is happening again but this time only bitcoin is getting pumped, if this pumping continues then there is definitely a chance for altcoins to also get pumped really soon. I have already bought several altcoins after today's dump and would recommend you all to do the same as this market doesn't wait for anyone


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: margaret22 on July 25, 2018, 07:17:52 PM
It always happens with the smaller tokens. For Bitcoin manipulation, a very big whale is needed :) So do not buy small coins, when there is a price pump with no real reason possible to find.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Lanatsa on July 25, 2018, 07:24:46 PM
They are mostly scammers thats using some huge group to drag peoples in there groups then gave a signal on which coins they want to buy and when the time comes that more people are buying they will also start selling there bags and all people where live at the peak because there coins already dump.

Oh well, we can categorized them as scammers because they are really taking advantages of newbies just walking the door and them promising good returns but we all know that you can earn a lot without you paying the premium prices for the signals. So its good if you can stay away from them and do your homework do avoid lost of your money. I'm sure that all your hardwork will be paid at the end if you do study the coins that you are going to invest.
Newbies is usually got victimized with these schemes but as a experienced one you can really make money into those groups if you do know how to entire on the right time and leave out.
This is a common scheme even up to these days it do still exist because there are still people who do keep feeding those scammers where their main is to take advantage of those people who do have less knowledge.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: yonjitsu on July 25, 2018, 11:48:17 PM
I believe that pump and dump is a way made by others especially by big fish who is trying to manipulate bitcoin's market price. If a single big fish who sell his voluminous bitcoin at a single time, then a big dip will occur that would also creates FUD to others and will eventually sell their holdings too because of fears. So as the price goes very cheap, that whale will buy it again but at a lower price this time.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Pattart on July 26, 2018, 02:08:55 AM
Theres a lot of whales in the market. Holding it is the best option. If it is dump, it is the best time to buy some coins while it is low, when it pumps its the best way to sell your coins while it has a good price.
Yeah I thought it was a basic tactic and everyone would know it, but you know that sometimes the change is hard to predict, when the price weakens and you think it's the right time to buy, whereas the price goes down again? you have to be really smart in reading the market that's the key..


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: mattmcegg on July 26, 2018, 02:23:16 AM
The best tactic in a down market is Dollar Cost Averaging. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dollarcostaveraging.asp


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: yndye on July 26, 2018, 02:25:16 AM
Theres a lot of whales in the market. Holding it is the best option. If it is dump, it is the best time to buy some coins while it is low, when it pumps its the best way to sell your coins while it has a good price.
Yeah I thought it was a basic tactic and everyone would know it, but you know that sometimes the change is hard to predict, when the price weakens and you think it's the right time to buy, whereas the price goes down again? you have to be really smart in reading the market that's the key..

That's the reason you should have a trading plan always so that you will know when you should sell and when you should have a stop loss. You will get better with it when you have a lot of experience and you are doing it over and over again and this would in effect prevent you from making rush decisions since you know when you should act. Even though that there are times when it would work not on your favor, you can still prevent losing more if the price continues to go down; otherwise, you can buy more if you have still funds reserve.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Dudeperfect on July 26, 2018, 04:21:29 AM
To be honest, as far as these big whales have the ability to manipulate the market with money, there is no way to stop them. However, as a user, we can always keep improving our approach towards the market. Mass awareness is the only option to build the ability to deal with the worst situations in the market. I honestly believe that there is still a lack of mass maturity and hence it is helping the big whales to manipulate the market in the way they want to make money out of it.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: darasinmi4show on July 26, 2018, 05:11:06 AM
The pump and dump things it is a very bad idea. Also, it bad way or manner to buy a less asset. It really make people loss money and didn't allow the trade to know the value and potential of at asset. Although, it is good for quick money making but very bad for good asset.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: shoreno on July 26, 2018, 05:37:53 AM
The pump and dump things it is a very bad idea. Also, it bad way or manner to buy a less asset. It really make people loss money and didn't allow the trade to know the value and potential of at asset. Although, it is good for quick money making but very bad for good asset.

pump and dump tactic or strategy are not bad because it is actually beneficial to the investors or traders . they can buy a coin if it dumps and they can also sell a coin if it pumps   .  you will only loose if you dont know how to play this game .

It always happens with the smaller tokens. For Bitcoin manipulation, a very big whale is needed :) So do not buy small coins, when there is a price pump with no real reason possible to find.

I agree.  Pump and dump events are always happening to new coins which do not have a lot of demand because they are smaller and verry easy to manipulate .  so i also suggest that stick only to some legit and popular coins because they are less prone to manipulations and scamming attempts .


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: TheReverend on July 26, 2018, 07:07:33 AM
i think that how it work, so you just put ur plan when to buy and when to sell, dont expect to much and dont panic when you believe the price will rise, keep calm, i think only that you can do.
i will happy if anyone can give  more advice.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: redsun114 on July 26, 2018, 10:21:55 AM
Whales are capable of manipulating pump and dump and you must be careful.
Well whales are people who have potential to make good right and left in market. By observing the definition of whales in bitcoin market, there left no reason to misunderstand their concept of existence. They have big role and authority to control the market. They are not controlling bitcoin but just the market with some good sell and buy. So yeah they have impact.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: CybereyesWinger on July 26, 2018, 01:25:25 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?


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Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: BartS on July 26, 2018, 03:33:55 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
That is not pump and dump, if a whales buys or sells a huge amount of coins then it is natural  for the price to go up or down, a pump and dump works like this, the manipulator gets a bunch of people to follow him and to act as he wants, then he choses a coin without telling anyone and he begins to buy but he does in a way that does not raise the price, once he has enough coins he gives the signal to his followers about the coin he just bought, everyone begins to buy and then this makes the price to go up and now he can sell for a profit.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Inikoo on July 26, 2018, 05:59:56 PM
We may should avoid to buy tokens, when the price has rapidly grown. I know it can be very tempting, but these are the times when we often purchuse at the peak.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Finestream on July 26, 2018, 06:56:40 PM
i think that how it work, so you just put ur plan when to buy and when to sell, dont expect to much and dont panic when you believe the price will rise, keep calm, i think only that you can do.
i will happy if anyone can give  more advice.
Yes.You should know your own time format as to when to buy and sell because you will be the one to benefit from your own acts or thinking.Just buy when prices are in dips and hold them for your future use.It will be a huge profit to gain when you already sell them with a peak price in the market.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: dmamigo on July 26, 2018, 08:05:33 PM
i think that how it work, so you just put ur plan when to buy and when to sell, dont expect to much and dont panic when you believe the price will rise, keep calm, i think only that you can do.
i will happy if anyone can give  more advice.
Yes.You should know your own time format as to when to buy and sell because you will be the one to benefit from your own acts or thinking.Just buy when prices are in dips and hold them for your future use.It will be a huge profit to gain when you already sell them with a peak price in the market.

Absolutely, nobody will advice you a time frame, even if anybody does it will be just a speculation. It is the individual who has to set a time when to buy or sell in order to profit. Even in stock market, best is to work on your own, listen to others but take your own decisions or else you will end up loosing. Similar in crypto currency market. You have to play accordingly along with the pump and dump game wisely.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Dart18 on July 26, 2018, 08:30:28 PM
There must be a clue into when the hamsters takes the profit.
Yes it does happen but if you are a trader there could be a higher chance that you will sell before the whales makes a chance to sell the higher amount concluding to a big dump.

Clue is monitoring. If you are risking a lot of money then you must always give some time to see whether the token is moving. If there is profit take it. That is the real trading without any emotions.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: BitHodler on July 26, 2018, 10:10:52 PM
We may should avoid to buy tokens, when the price has rapidly grown. I know it can be very tempting, but these are the times when we often purchuse at the peak.
Retail money doesn't like to buy red, they buy green, and preferably when it has gone up a lot, because people want to be where the action is happening. They don't buy coins that are declining, it's not interesting enough.

It's against everything we understand about markets, but it's their logic and after all the years they haven't changed one single bit because they are too stupid for that. We have to let them do whatever they want.

What do we gain from advising people to not invest when the price is high? We're talking to a wall, which means that we are wasting our time. Time that could have been spent doing things more productive than helping idiots.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on July 26, 2018, 11:13:19 PM
Just visit a pump and dump group in Telegram and you will notice that most of them are promoting 1 coin to pump, it really makes me wonder if those groups are just made by the same person as they cross promote another Telegram group.

When I was new in trading I tried joining this kind of group but I never joined those groups that asks for a fee. They give signals but the signal that they provide is very late, pump started over an hour ago and dumping may happen anytime, you end up holding a coin at a high price. Stay away from those kind of groups. The only one who gets rich there are the owners.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Roukawa on July 26, 2018, 11:50:38 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
There are pump and dump groups that are usually seen in the telegram group. This kind of modus are made by scammers who conveys a new trader to be with them where in fact, they just fool that person.
Pump and groups who are legit usually made the conspiracy around the market, they tend to manipulate the current price and what will become the future price of the token. Its good to be with them however, there are fraudulent groups which we need to avoid when we are entering the pump and dump group.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: XIANNE25 on July 27, 2018, 03:52:18 AM
Pumping and dumping is a business..there are groups of people who do this.its a trap when we see the coin is  pumping we are fear of missing out and buy when its already bullish..better buy tokens/coins wth potential in case u are trap u can just hold it and wait for the next pumping..but as much as possibble ,best thing to do is to buy at the very dip price and sell when we get profit already..


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: baconlike on July 27, 2018, 04:37:33 AM
This strategy is only for people with large capital, the corporation they pump and pour so they make the price of coins continue to fluctuate according to their wishes and so they will never lose money when making the move. This game.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: fabrizoc on July 30, 2018, 08:18:32 AM
I think holding is the best thing and I completely agree with you on this front.
Pump and dump is something very common in the world of the crypto currencies and that there is no such thing other than this which can then result in profit or loss. If you are smart enough that you can deal the situation in the best possible way, then you can make a lot of money because of it and that by selling the coins at the time of pump and holding them at time of dump, you will make a lot of earning.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: raider150shifter on July 30, 2018, 08:21:06 AM
If you find yourself stuck in that situation, hodling the coin might be the smartest move and
wait for the next bull


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Getmon on July 30, 2018, 08:21:59 AM
You can have at least a rough idea as to whether a particular coin is a pump and dump coin. Basically, pump and dump coins are shit coins whose existence in the market is only brought by the same pump and dump tactics. If you want to avoid getting preyed on by pump and dump manipulators of the market, buy the top coins. Those coins whose worth are billions of USD are not pump and dump. They simply cannot manipulate such a huge volume.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: genuin on July 30, 2018, 08:43:55 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
Such a strategy is already too popular for me, preferably in trading do not look at prices, but see market capitalization. do not you be fooled by the price promised by the dev coin. In trading you should also see the volume of movement created by the trader


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: hitchcoin on July 30, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
Those tactics are important on every market that we're having in the world, even when you are selling vegetables on the street, those market laws are also actual for you, somebody can bring 100 tons of potato, and dump the price.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: torrihuff on July 30, 2018, 07:37:59 PM
Pump and dump is something to know inside and out before attempting to get into this market.  If you get caught in the pump and dump be patient and look for strong exit points to reduce your position over time to hopefully mitigate any type of loses.  Getting caught in a pump and dump is like taking a time out in the corner.  Your not dead.  You just have to patiently sit in the corner till your time is up.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Geleve on July 30, 2018, 07:56:26 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

well it is not possible to escape from those manipulations. first of all you shouldnt invest in crap projects. coin quantity, coin distribution, marketcap, supply are very important. if you want to be in safe you should focus on only major altcoins like neo and ethereum.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: nickwen on July 30, 2018, 08:12:09 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

HODL is the best weapon from this kind of so manipulation. Other's go with the flow, buying in dips and when the whales started to make a sell, they usually dump as well and just rebuy in dips. The only problem is that you don't know when are the whales going to dump it, You might be sleeping across the globe while there are a lot of actions going on. So for me, I would rather HODL my coins for long term and will just sell if the condition is ripe for the taking.
Agree with you about HODL. That's the best way for now but this way need a lof of patience. I used group of signals, tried to sell or buy, pump and dump and this is the easiest way to lose your money I can say. I think a lot of people here have the same experience with all of these "signal groups".
Never allowed to trust signal groups on facebook or telegram. Previously, I also paid to be part of a signal group on Telegram. but 90% of the signals they say are inaccurate because they just want to fool people's money


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: matej krkic on July 30, 2018, 08:33:37 PM
Never be involved in pump and dump games. In most cases you'll either loose your money or will be banned by exchange


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on July 30, 2018, 09:09:41 PM
The pump and dump tactics are potentially dangerous because that's where most people new to crypto lose a lot of money. At the same time, they can also be hard to spot which is why every time you see a price rise you shouldn't jump straight into it, just wait and observe the market until you're certain of your move.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Petrogradka on July 30, 2018, 09:31:27 PM
You need to intuitively buy or sell coins, no matter what coin it will be. Intuition and analysis, your most important protection of your coins. Here is in my opinion the most the main tactic!


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ernoo on July 31, 2018, 04:15:14 PM
When you see a big price increase in a small coin, with relatively small volume, I would recommend not to get in.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: snewkadel on July 31, 2018, 04:24:05 PM
I think that this can not be avoided. It is possible to reduce losses by fixing profits ,as well as it is important if you went into the negative never sell at the bottom(if the investment was medium or long-term )


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: DefDope66 on July 31, 2018, 04:26:56 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

There will always be manipulation in regard to markets. Company stock price can be manipulated in a similar fashion. We saw this recently with Facebook stock. Company executives sell off their shares and FB stock drops 19 percent in one day. Though they likely violated law by doing this, it did not stop them from doing so (don't hold your breath waiting for anyone to be prosecuted.)

Consider whether a coin is overvalued. To some degree, you have to go with your gut. If a quick, steep rise occurs, question whether there is a legitimate reason for this or if it is most likely another pump and dump scheme. As you stated, these patterns are usually predictable.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Thanasis on July 31, 2018, 04:32:03 PM
the bump and dump tactic in the crypto trading may give good profits for the individuals but in nature it is the thing which affects the price of bitcoin,so stop trading the bitcoin trading and start holding them for maximum profits in some years.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Dewao on July 31, 2018, 04:58:09 PM
the pump and dump tactic in the crypto trading may give good profits for the individuals but in nature it is the thing which affects the price of bitcoin,so stop trading the bitcoin trading and start holding them for maximum profits in some years.

Well you can't control anyone, they will do what they want but I think you are right, when big investors invest their money on bitcoin the price will pump but if the big investors sell their bitcoin it can affect to much the price.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Fasunathan on July 31, 2018, 06:45:46 PM
the pump and dump tactic in the crypto trading may give good profits for the individuals but in nature it is the thing which affects the price of bitcoin,so stop trading the bitcoin trading and start holding them for maximum profits in some years.

Well you can't control anyone, they will do what they want but I think you are right, when big investors invest their money on bitcoin the price will pump but if the big investors sell their bitcoin it can affect to much the price.

Basically that's what every trader did is to let their asset play along with the hardships of trading. It's more like doing a hot seat of your finances, but eventually it won't bother strong holders. Because their faith is bigger than their worries.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Thanasis on July 31, 2018, 07:42:33 PM
the pump and dump tactic in the crypto trading may give good profits for the individuals but in nature it is the thing which affects the price of bitcoin,so stop trading the bitcoin trading and start holding them for maximum profits in some years.

Well you can't control anyone, they will do what they want but I think you are right, when big investors invest their money on bitcoin the price will pump but if the big investors sell their bitcoin it can affect to much the price.

Basically that's what every trader did is to let their asset play along with the hardships of trading. It's more like doing a hot seat of your finances, but eventually it won't bother strong holders. Because their faith is bigger than their worries.
The volatility of bitcoin make no worries for the big investors who we call as whales.But the high volatility makes the people that think about the future of bitcoin is uncertain and it will stop moe people getting involved into the crypto world.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: webdevmastery on July 31, 2018, 09:06:35 PM
Pump and dump is something to know inside and out before attempting to get into this market.  If you get caught in the pump and dump be patient and look for strong exit points to reduce your position over time to hopefully mitigate any type of loses.  Getting caught in a pump and dump is like taking a time out in the corner.  Your not dead.  You just have to patiently sit in the corner till your time is up.

The pump and dump is just investing and selling your coins at the right time and you have to be patient to wait in order to earn more profit since your emotions will always part of your decisions about the market.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Sanchezino40 on July 31, 2018, 09:53:15 PM
I was in a group on telegram where they pump and dump tactics was practiced. Honestly Speaking its the easiest way to loose your money if you are not fast to catch up.  Pump and dump is for those that are ready to loose their BTC or Ethereum easily. When other are selling off and you are not around, you might be the one to bear all the losses because you were not fast enough. This trick is risky and deadly


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Ronaldcoin2017 on July 31, 2018, 10:08:27 PM
Pump and dump is something to know inside and out before attempting to get into this market.  If you get caught in the pump and dump be patient and look for strong exit points to reduce your position over time to hopefully mitigate any type of loses.  Getting caught in a pump and dump is like taking a time out in the corner.  Your not dead.  You just have to patiently sit in the corner till your time is up.

The pump and dump is just investing and selling your coins at the right time and you have to be patient to wait in order to earn more profit since your emotions will always part of your decisions about the market.

The price is really the important matter on pump and dump status of the price. If we know how to be more temperate regarding to the present price maybe we can earn a huge amount of profit on it. Simply we need to hold on dip and sell on high price and don't be panic during dip because market will not fall forever.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: kenel on August 01, 2018, 09:01:29 AM
any news can be supported by large holders, so you never guess. it makes sense to look for the intersection of different analyses, it gives a greater probability of earnings


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Jaci on August 01, 2018, 04:00:30 PM
At the moment too many telegram group and some telegram group make a coin pump in binance, bittrex and cryptopia. If you join this group you can get some signal for coin pumping. I’m join some group and they are provide crypto signal, when I get some signal and I check this coin price in cyrptopia and I found total group member pump this coin so it is a very important tactic to pump any kind of coin.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Davinus on August 01, 2018, 05:12:41 PM
There are lot of tricks you can follow to understand pumps and dumps. But my best advice is, if you are a noob just wait a bit and study ow market volumes and trading strategies going on when a dump or a pump is gonna happen. One of very useful thing to track in pumps and dumps are trading volumes and quick trading volume. There are several ways of tracking these like telegram bots.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Twinscoin2017 on August 01, 2018, 06:16:51 PM
There are lot of tricks you can follow to understand pumps and dumps. But my best advice is, if you are a noob just wait a bit and study ow market volumes and trading strategies going on when a dump or a pump is gonna happen. One of very useful thing to track in pumps and dumps are trading volumes and quick trading volume. There are several ways of tracking these like telegram bots.
The pump and dump tactic is not that easy. Because we need to consider things or maybe sometimes we need to sacrifice because we all have needs that need to be adress, sometimes we dont want to sell during the price is dump butvwe cant help our self having a hard time on holding when there are things that is normaly needed as human. So then i believe that pump and dump tactic is not just depend on the price but also with our needs.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: TontomHit on August 01, 2018, 06:42:30 PM
This case mostly happens with coins, that has a smaller market cap. That is why it is safer to invest in top coins, which require more funds to manipulate.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Reatim on August 01, 2018, 10:08:36 PM
There are lot of tricks you can follow to understand pumps and dumps. But my best advice is, if you are a noob just wait a bit and study ow market volumes and trading strategies going on when a dump or a pump is gonna happen. One of very useful thing to track in pumps and dumps are trading volumes and quick trading volume. There are several ways of tracking these like telegram bots.
The pump and dump tactic is not that easy. Because we need to consider things or maybe sometimes we need to sacrifice because we all have needs that need to be adress, sometimes we dont want to sell during the price is dump butvwe cant help our self having a hard time on holding when there are things that is normaly needed as human. So then i believe that pump and dump tactic is not just depend on the price but also with our needs.

Weird. If you learn to invest what you can afford then why the "need" factor enter the picture then? Its a pump and dump scheme, meaning if the price goes up and you have made a good profit then sell it. Then go on the next coin. Yes, there might be emergencies that we all go and need to sell our coins. But at least just put the money in the market in which you think you can burn. With that said, if the pump is already there and if you calculated that you already made money then for me there's no need to hold on it. I will immediately sell it off regardless of any "need" in real life and then re-invest it on the next coin.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ataki on August 01, 2018, 10:40:10 PM

We are at early days in Crypto and the market can easily be manipulated. You decide if you want to be part of it
and make some profit ( if you are experienced enough ) or you stand by the side and holding.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: fluctuations on August 01, 2018, 10:43:57 PM
This is the shark's investment strategy in this market. To do this you need a lot of money and you understand the psychology of the market. Then you get a profit.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: redsun114 on August 02, 2018, 06:43:04 AM
The pump and dump things it is a very bad idea. Also, it bad way or manner to buy a less asset. It really make people loss money and didn't allow the trade to know the value and potential of at asset. Although, it is good for quick money making but very bad for good asset.
Well for more cases we are totally incapable of making any good move in this market. The reason is, investors are always making impact on bitcoin market. They don’t let this coin live a happy life. They are always ready to make it prey for any reason. Anytime when bitcoin start raising its head, they start making panic in market and hence things get down and we start calling it dump,


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: setupbounds on August 02, 2018, 08:13:49 AM
If you find yourself stuck in that situation, hodling the coin might be the smartest move and
wait for the next bull
This pump and dump is quite normal thing when it comes to that of the crypto currencies and that you have to be wise enough to deal with it in a decent way. If you can’t make it smart decision at time of pump and dump, then it will not be possible for you to make out anything from your investment. Keep on holding your coins at time of dump and then wait for some significant pump before selling them off.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on August 02, 2018, 08:37:49 AM
I would rather buy a coin that is in Red for a long time and wait for the time that it will be pumped by a group of pump and dump than join a group of pump and dump, pay a fee, wait for their signal on which coin to buy at a certain date and time. The owners are the one who gets rich in this kind of scheme because they get paid.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: grchina on August 02, 2018, 08:52:52 AM
Its simple dont follow the hype and get caught in the trap by whales,people tend to go and chase highes when they see ongoing pump but it cant be done correctly because you will never be able to predict where the top is


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Gururapyco on August 02, 2018, 08:56:55 AM
You can definately prevent yourself from falling in to pump and dump by making a decent research on the project you want to invest in. See if there are any major updates that can cause the price pump and never buy at all time highs.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Cryptokarl on August 02, 2018, 03:01:38 PM
Virtually, the pump and dump is been conducted by the whales. The whales manipulate the prices of coins and they know when to book their profit and when to enter into any trade. In my own view, in investment, its better to invest for the long term than day trade as long term investors don't bother for any pump and dump tactic


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: tanjilrifat on August 02, 2018, 03:04:08 PM
Honestly Speaking its the easiest way to loose your money if you are not fast to catch up.  The whales manipulate the prices of coins and they know when to book their profit and when to enter into any trade.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ClockBug on August 02, 2018, 03:06:46 PM
Virtually, the pump and dump is been conducted by the whales. The whales manipulate the prices of coins and they know when to book their profit and when to enter into any trade. In my own view, in investment, its better to invest for the long term than day trade as long term investors don't bother for any pump and dump tactic

Once Exchanges can track traders along with the coins on suspicious accounts, this practice will continue to cheat honest people of their funds


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: donalfonso on August 02, 2018, 03:11:34 PM
Like they say if you can't beat them, join them, by the time every body attempts to be a whale or take up the pump and dump strate,  the strategy will crash, fail and stop working. That's my theory


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: brenzosa on August 02, 2018, 03:51:31 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

this trend has been happening again and again forever.  this makes the rich getting richer and poor getting poorer.  this is not happening on crypto alone, it happens in our real world stock market.  it's more ideal to have wealth distribution that is spread out.  this will likely make pump and dump more difficult.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Fredomago on August 02, 2018, 05:24:02 PM
Its simple dont follow the hype and get caught in the trap by whales,people tend to go and chase highes when they see ongoing pump but it cant be done correctly because you will never be able to predict where the top is
Good point, better not to chase the peak and just focus with decent earnings, it's hard to play against the whales as they have a huge capital to ruin your investment, do it wisely and go with the flow buy when they dive and sell when they already pumping, never to feel greedy and wait for the highest peak as most of the time they just do it overtime so its hard to predict what can be the top peak, learn from previous movements and use it as basis in order to select your sell positions.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: thesmallgod on August 02, 2018, 05:54:06 PM
pumping and dumping tactics is actually a complex process. from my experience, i do notice when whale enter market becuase you will see a huge and constant buy order however it is always difficult when whales are taking back their investment because there are some factors that may not let you know this. firstly when you follow whale and you invest immediately you are getting 10% interest, you will become uncertisfy and you will not wannat sell your order. secondly whales take profit in fraction so you may not notice it.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: sultanGol on August 02, 2018, 06:55:58 PM
There are even discord, and other groups, who try to organise these kindof market manipulations. We have to be very careful not to get trapped.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: darasinmi4show on August 02, 2018, 08:29:30 PM
The pump and dump tactic do help for those people that want immediate gain on their asset. However, the tactic makes many people to loss their money by buying on unreal  asset because of the demand for that asset which may make them think it good.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ngocdhbk2 on August 02, 2018, 08:57:32 PM
This tactic is quite common, but we often ask, " Why do we still have a pump and a dump ? But are we still following ? " Because you will rely on those holes to make money quickly .


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: poloollec on August 02, 2018, 09:47:58 PM
It is used to fight the various tactics that hovers around the place.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ivankoh on August 02, 2018, 10:29:01 PM
pumping and dumping tactics is actually a complex process. from my experience, i do notice when whale enter market becuase you will see a huge and constant buy order however it is always difficult when whales are taking back their investment because there are some factors that may not let you know this. firstly when you follow whale and you invest immediately you are getting 10% interest, you will become uncertisfy and you will not wannat sell your order. secondly whales take profit in fraction so you may not notice it.
Pump and dump is the way whales use to control the market. Many people who are new to this market are driven by pump / dump channels and lose a lot of money. Remember that nothing is easy and pump / dump is not a viable way in this market.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: vixcious on August 02, 2018, 11:11:04 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
I think we all need to equip ourselves with knowledge before investing in anything. New traders need to know that the Crypto market is always manipulated and unstable. From there they have to know that when the market goes down it does not mean that the value of the altcoins is reduced. The majority of merchants are often mistaken for this mistake and the psychology becomes panic, followed by whale traps. So we need to be more courageous and subtle.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Johnyz on August 02, 2018, 11:45:04 PM
pumping and dumping tactics is actually a complex process. from my experience, i do notice when whale enter market becuase you will see a huge and constant buy order however it is always difficult when whales are taking back their investment because there are some factors that may not let you know this. firstly when you follow whale and you invest immediately you are getting 10% interest, you will become uncertisfy and you will not wannat sell your order. secondly whales take profit in fraction so you may not notice it.
Pump and dump is the way whales use to control the market. Many people who are new to this market are driven by pump / dump channels and lose a lot of money. Remember that nothing is easy and pump / dump is not a viable way in this market.
And if we want to survive in this market, we should know how to ride the trend together with the whales because this is our way also to make money. Hodlers may not be affected much about the pump and dump trend but if you are a trader you should notice this.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: charlzyeby on August 02, 2018, 11:58:20 PM
It is best to buy the dips or buy when prices remain stable for sometime after careful monitoring. People who fall prey to pumps and dumps only buy when the coin has reason significantly. I'm just wondering how the whales will be able to act in unison. There are other factors that lead to pumps and dumps apart from whales. For example some project teams create false news to get people excited.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: dharnamonitor on August 03, 2018, 12:09:22 AM
If you find something unusual in the buy/sell orders, volume and price then you could simply ignore it and look into another altcoins or you can also join, it's all depends on your plan if you want to join ride with pump then you must have an objective and detailed plan or else you'll gonna missed the opportunity to sell without noticing.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: SCRAPYCOCO on August 03, 2018, 12:31:32 AM
The best tactic for not being a victim is simply to stay calm and see how the situation is better and the game is built, just wait for the best moment


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: alan2here on August 03, 2018, 03:25:03 AM
This tactic is quite common, but we often ask, " Why do we still have a pump and a dump ? But are we still following ? " Because you will rely on those holes to make money quickly .
This is very dangerous and this is probably the most dangerous investment in Crypto because no one can know what the whales will do when pump and dump. I personally do not participate in these events because I am afraid to lose profits and just watch the price fluctuate in a short time


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Lhaine on August 03, 2018, 04:08:50 AM
This tactic is quite common, but we often ask, " Why do we still have a pump and a dump ? But are we still following ? " Because you will rely on those holes to make money quickly .
This is very dangerous and this is probably the most dangerous investment in Crypto because no one can know what the whales will do when pump and dump. I personally do not participate in these events because I am afraid to lose profits and just watch the price fluctuate in a short time

If you are always afraid well pump and dump tactic is not for you ,you know what?  In trading that is normal to wait the dump because when the coin falling down this is already our chance to buy more coin.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: redshiftexpensive on August 03, 2018, 10:43:49 AM
To fight the shark killer strategy the pump and the dump is something that is good.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: M7MMike on August 10, 2018, 01:16:30 PM
It requires a lot of strategies and only those with some strong minds are needed here.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: mudasarali43 on August 10, 2018, 04:41:02 PM
I think it is not any tactic it is only drama which depends on one big amount trader that create group make together other peoples who have investment and he gives the signal and suddenly buy some coins and by watching the pump when other peoples start buying then this drama maker sell their coins at high price and in this way he only get advantage and other is going to the loss so be aware of these type of peoples.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: hrctrusisss on August 14, 2018, 10:22:37 AM
strong mind is what is needed to have to be able to deal with all of this.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: matchi2011 on August 14, 2018, 10:27:56 AM
I think it is not any tactic it is only drama which depends on one big amount trader that create group make together other peoples who have investment and he gives the signal and suddenly buy some coins and by watching the pump when other peoples start buying then this drama maker sell their coins at high price and in this way he only get advantage and other is going to the loss so be aware of these type of peoples.
That's why better to understand and learn how to read this kinds of actions inside trading site, there's a lots of existing pumped and dumped group, if you got victimized you will be trapped and your money will lose its value in any event, pumped project is useless because even their own dev abandon them after being played inside the market.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: nz_sana on August 14, 2018, 04:29:07 PM
It is the main tactic. Every coin has this quality. Just need to remain cool for both situations. You must know BTC make a history for a dump. Now we can only be expected for the pump. Sure, you can make a huge profit if you buy BTC and hold now. Though I think BTC can’t recover its superposition soon it can pump as much as we can get a good amount of profits.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: KalaiBTC on August 16, 2018, 10:31:37 AM
strong mind is what is needed to have to be able to deal with all of this.
Very short but so strong answer to this question. Actually when you are in trading, your mind set must be strong. You must be analytical and the most important thing, your decision making must be super class. If you aren’t up to such qualities, better to work on them first and then come in field. Don’t just dive in without prior knowledge and superior practice. Else loss would be your fate.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: hirokazu on August 16, 2018, 10:43:18 AM
I think it is not any tactic it is only drama which depends on one big amount trader that create group make together other peoples who have investment and he gives the signal and suddenly buy some coins and by watching the pump when other peoples start buying then this drama maker sell their coins at high price and in this way he only get advantage and other is going to the loss so be aware of these type of peoples.
Anyway, it could be. Because in order to get a big profit, various ways are done by every people. This is the thing that most influences the rise and fall of a coin. If we pay more attention, we can just follow how they play and also make a profit from their way.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Satosho Kakamolto on August 16, 2018, 10:51:41 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

The real problem is that most of the people are aware of those tactics but they play along hoping they will profit, thus transforming the whole crypto world in a giant casino, which is a real pity.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: InformerKin on August 16, 2018, 10:53:37 AM
I would avoid those so called signal groups on telegram etc. Follow your own tactic and don't play on those pump&dump waves and you'll be safe.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Boppsross on August 16, 2018, 12:14:36 PM
It requires people who have a strong mind and can deal with difficult situations.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Guard225 on August 16, 2018, 01:33:17 PM
There are hundreds of such groups on Telegram and Discord lately. The paid ones have 40+ BTC on their addresses lying around.
It's sad that those schemes bring so many people in and profit those scammers.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: checkmatesir on August 16, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
the bump and dump tactic in the crypto trading may give good profits for the individuals but in nature it is the thing which affects the price of bitcoin,so stop trading the bitcoin trading and start holding them for maximum profits in some years.
Most of the investors and trader are related with pump and dump tactics. They are really getting good profit from it, but finding the best place for your investment you need to have good previous experience and only then we can get profit from pumps and dumps.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: harbin55 on August 16, 2018, 08:19:43 PM
When the pump happen then sell your coins or investments in the market to earn a goods amount of income or profit while in dump buy an coin or investment because it is in the affordable price.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: btcblockchain on August 16, 2018, 08:32:36 PM
the whole pump and dump tactic run by all the cryptocurrencies admins in exchangers we see every time newbies should fall pretty in these game


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: elpape225 on August 16, 2018, 08:54:54 PM
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Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: churmerpe9 on August 16, 2018, 10:13:10 PM
The best weapon is nothing but the Hold strategy and you must use that.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: mung_nasib on August 17, 2018, 05:51:35 AM
I think the risk that will be faced by traders is very large because with the existence of a dump game it is likely that someone who is not too aware of the exchange rate movement will cause panic and from that the loss is difficult to anticipate.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Arsedunn on August 17, 2018, 11:02:17 AM
pumping and dumping tactics is actually a complex process. from my experience, i do notice when whale enter market becuase you will see a huge and constant buy order however it is always difficult when whales are taking back their investment because there are some factors that may not let you know this. firstly when you follow whale and you invest immediately you are getting 10% interest, you will become uncertisfy and you will not wannat sell your order. secondly whales take profit in fraction so you may not notice it.
Pump and dump is the way whales use to control the market. Many people who are new to this market are driven by pump / dump channels and lose a lot of money. Remember that nothing is easy and pump / dump is not a viable way in this market.
You should keep yourself away from pump dump channels as they will never give you profit. I have seen many pump dumps telegram and whatsapp group who charge too much and yet you will not get any profit.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: V. J. Meyer on August 17, 2018, 01:18:45 PM
That strategy will make it difficult and impossible to predict the trend of coins, I think the cipher market, the price of the coins are baked in accordance with the purpose of the whale


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: slashz9 on August 17, 2018, 01:40:31 PM
that why when you will go trading you need a target, so you will consistent and not affected by the price, because you already have a target when to sell and to buy.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: gabmen on August 17, 2018, 03:55:39 PM
that why when you will go trading you need a target, so you will consistent and not affected by the price, because you already have a target when to sell and to buy.

Well i think everyone has a target. It just depends in how firm you'll be to hit that target. There will be times when your target would seem impossible to hit and you may need to hold for a long time. You must be prepared for those kind of situations. Pump and dumps due to manipulation make this market crazy so you have to know how to go with the flow.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: fitty on August 17, 2018, 05:50:19 PM
Pump and dump is a part of trading and whoever have the big amount can manipulate any coin or market by himself or his group of whales. I don't like this when some of the players are making a bad move on this like some other use to call or give a signal when they bought already and selll when others buy.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Rj Manik on August 17, 2018, 06:23:10 PM
The actual whales may be current in most type of company as well as manipulations may be the device they utilized in producing A lot of cash in the marketplace. Moving as well as throwing is really a period which repetitive by itself within cryptocurrencies marketplace as well as if you're sensible traders actually without having a lot of understanding how points function it is possible to can make cash out of this exercise.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: webdevmastery on August 17, 2018, 08:03:21 PM
I think the risk that will be faced by traders is very large because with the existence of a dump game it is likely that someone who is not too aware of the exchange rate movement will cause panic and from that the loss is difficult to anticipate.

There is always a risk because the market is volatile so every time you invest a huge amount, you should choose a coin that you are willing to hold for a very long time.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Isaremj3 on August 17, 2018, 08:38:46 PM
The pump and dump tactic is very good and great but not so good for good token or a valuable asset. Also, it makes people  buy wrong or asset that have no value. Am against this pump and dump tactic thing.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: okorocrypto on August 18, 2018, 09:40:02 AM
The best way to escaping this dangerous tactics is to always check price history of any coin you notice is experiencing a sudden jump in price. If the rise is so sudden, please be careful before falling into trap. Another key is to always check the product behind the coin before expecting a rise price


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Xiahouyuan on August 18, 2018, 09:52:14 AM
"Low sell and sell high", I will not invest too much money in the green market, because it is easy to happen what you see, I prefer to trade in the red market!


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: iv4n on August 18, 2018, 10:02:59 AM
People will never learn to stay out from some things. I still see how people discuss about bitcoin doublers, about cloud mining, even there are so many warnings about this services people still fall on this scams. Doubling your money is always risky, but to make x10 or more is risky hundred times more. Do I need to explain one more time what is pump and dump group and who run that group and how they make profit? It`s explained so many times on this forum and you can find so many useful articles about it. Bottom line is that what this groups do is they choose a low market cap coin and they invest a lot of money to pump the price, when they pump it enough they start with selling, who sell first will make profit, who stay behind will lose money, it`s manipulation with market and that`s illegal. They are taking advantage on crypto market and I won`t support that, never! I would like people to not participate in this kind of making profit schemes, but people are hungry for fast money and there isn`t cure for this.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: hubballi on August 18, 2018, 10:11:57 AM
To not fall for pump and dump tactic and get loss, then before starting to buy a coins first check that the current price is in which state whether it is in all time high or all time low and then check the coins project and prospectus and get full status of the coin in their respective thread. After all this analysis you will know that whether the coin is worthy to invest or not.

So if you first analysis the coin which you are going to invest then you wont fall for pump and dump tactic coins.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Carlosfeer12 on August 18, 2018, 05:17:07 PM
be careful of what you are doing and don’t forget to get your marks.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: sulendra12 on August 18, 2018, 05:34:55 PM
The best weapon is nothing but the Hold strategy and you must use that.
But you will be missed the train by just holding and doing nothing, that's not how it works dude.

"Low sell and sell high", I will not invest too much money in the green market, because it is easy to happen what you see, I prefer to trade in the red market!
Really? And then how if the coins just get pumped continuously and you are missing the train here. Just look at the reality, not anyone would do that.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Joemzz31 on August 19, 2018, 06:03:26 PM
Sell your coins or investments  when the value is in the high amount to be able to earn a goods amount of income or profit then buy when the value drops in the low amount to be affordable to your budget.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Chestt on August 19, 2018, 07:45:39 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

HODL is the best weapon from this kind of so manipulation. Other's go with the flow, buying in dips and when the whales started to make a sell, they usually dump as well and just rebuy in dips. The only problem is that you don't know when are the whales going to dump it, You might be sleeping across the globe while there are a lot of actions going on. So for me, I would rather HODL my coins for long term and will just sell if the condition is ripe for the taking.
Agree with you about HODL. That's the best way for now but this way need a lof of patience. I used group of signals, tried to sell or buy, pump and dump and this is the easiest way to lose your money I can say. I think a lot of people here have the same experience with all of these "signal groups".

Yes, I'm sure HODLing is the best you can do, but sometimes you may just lose the focus and forget about the key word, which is 'patience.'


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: davinchi on August 20, 2018, 06:43:53 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
Some people have suggested that the only way we can stop whales from pumping and dumping the cryptocurrency is by not selling our coins. But that’s not easy, seriously it is not easy,  most of us here our purpose is to buy and make profit from what we bough and once we have made profit we sell out bitcoin, this still create an opportunity for the whales to manipulate the price as they do. So you can’t stop,  it’s not easy,  let’s just say that it is part of everything.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ajaymukund on August 20, 2018, 06:46:00 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
In order not to become whale prey, you have to spend a lot of time analyzing the market. that is very important. Traders now only look at the chart to invest, which would be easy to bring losses to those people.
We need to observe more for a week, then we understand the whale's strategy. We will have less risk in investing. ;)


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: stabsee83 on August 20, 2018, 08:10:21 AM
pumping and dumping tactics is actually a complex process. from my experience, i do notice when whale enter market becuase you will see a huge and constant buy order however it is always difficult when whales are taking back their investment because there are some factors that may not let you know this. firstly when you follow whale and you invest immediately you are getting 10% interest, you will become uncertisfy and you will not wannat sell your order. secondly whales take profit in fraction so you may not notice it.
Pump and dump is the way whales use to control the market. Many people who are new to this market are driven by pump / dump channels and lose a lot of money. Remember that nothing is easy and pump / dump is not a viable way in this market.
I have been in pump dump groups and i know what they do. They will suggest you to buy a coin and they already have bought it and put sell orders. When you will buy, you will actually buy their orders making them more rich.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: karthcrypt on August 20, 2018, 08:17:22 AM
Control of  your impulses and emotions is the best way to  deal  with such situation.  You may not be able to  control market like the whales,  but  you can control  yourself.  Never buy sell FUD, never buy FOMO!


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Troubleshoot on August 22, 2018, 08:36:38 AM
The pump and dump is an old trick, very simple, yet powerful. Happens to work these days.
The best antidote to it is your knowledge and understanding of processes around you and your awareness of this kind of tactic. Otherwise, you are ready to jump through the hoops for the manipulators. Although it might be hard, try to avoid reading the opinions of the 'experts' and negative news especially with lots of exclamation marks and tragic headlines. They might be a clear sign of a manipulation.
Stay safe and happy hodlinng! 8)


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: victorski on August 22, 2018, 12:00:55 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
This is the initial rule here at the cryptocurrency market that every coin is having those periods or seaons of dump and pump. We cannot predict them for we to happen but it is what it is.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: gaurav82 on August 22, 2018, 12:12:04 PM
It's true. These kind of policies really happen. And small investor always bear. There is one way for keep away from it. You buy at bear market like now and hold till good price come. Mostly small investor buys when price is running. Then he becomes fish in net. So buy at bear market instead of running price.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: 777Jolami on August 22, 2018, 12:45:44 PM
Now is just a chance for us to buy or hold, not to sell pennies and wait patiently, at times the market will recover and the price of the coins will grow strongly.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Temujhin on August 22, 2018, 01:21:06 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 
Maybe we have to do a hold strategy, at least we monitor the movements of the whales, ignore the problem they are pumping and dumping, we don't need to follow their schemes, stay quiet for a while because in the present year they are manipulating and seeking their own profit to outwit new investors


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Zodiaclo on August 22, 2018, 11:26:54 PM
pumping and dumping tactics is actually a complex process. from my experience, i do notice when whale enter market becuase you will see a huge and constant buy order however it is always difficult when whales are taking back their investment because there are some factors that may not let you know this. firstly when you follow whale and you invest immediately you are getting 10% interest, you will become uncertisfy and you will not wannat sell your order. secondly whales take profit in fraction so you may not notice it.
Pump and dump is the way whales use to control the market. Many people who are new to this market are driven by pump / dump channels and lose a lot of money. Remember that nothing is easy and pump / dump is not a viable way in this market.
I have been in pump dump groups and i know what they do. They will suggest you to buy a coin and they already have bought it and put sell orders. When you will buy, you will actually buy their orders making them more rich.

Very revealing. What makes this information even more precious is that it comes from an insider ;)
Thanks for sharing! I know what pump and dump basically is, but I didn't know the mechanism.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: sherwinsamsung on August 24, 2018, 06:29:42 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

to add more information:

there are plenty of pump and dump groups in discord and telegram servers where they recruit lots of members.  in this group, the admin will announce on a certain date/time which coin to pump.  then members will religiously buy the said coins causing upswing of price and cause panic buying.

the reality is that admins have been buying the choice coins several days in advance prior to announcement.  they usually sell these coins right after announcement.  the poor victims unknowlingly buy the coins.  these are the coins that the admins had bought days ago.

what this means is that admins dumped their coins to the members of the group.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: NorihiroName on August 24, 2018, 10:46:04 PM
Well, I think it is possible that everything is manipulated by whales because sometimes we see really strange movements in the market.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Renegadegate on August 28, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Cryptomarket movements are heavily dependent on the news; especially bad news. Bad news is good news for the whales who probably generate bad news to make traders make the decisions favorable to the whales. How otherwise can they make you panic sell? Knowing that, I don't read too much news and try cross-checking with different sources, which helps me get the idea of whether the news is fake or fact.
By applying this technique you know if it's worth worrying and considering selling (no panic this time) or buying.
I hope you got the idea  8)


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: OrangeII on August 28, 2018, 09:33:50 AM
simple tactics but very difficult to do. it's a tactic that has been known for a long time, but there are still so many people who do it. what I mean is not the pump, and dumps that are made through manipulation, but the real pumps and dumps that occur in large markets today :D


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: jujurloe on August 28, 2018, 09:41:50 AM
I will be a patient person even though I have a minimal profit. when I wrongly buy at high prices, I rarely do cutloss, I tend to wait for market recovery with hold coin. after the price improves then I will sell it so I profit. my goal of trading is to make a profit even though the reality is not always the case


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Marcel666 on August 28, 2018, 10:46:04 AM
It is most times difficult to discern which growth is natural, and which isn't.
As a rule, if you see a bandwagon, it's already too late to join.
Don't join in the way up when FOMO is setting in.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Subwooferred on August 28, 2018, 10:47:44 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

I don't really know if it's possible at all.
Sometimes I have a feeling that technical analysis, for instance, is pretty misleading and can't predict the behavior of the cryptomarket. These days, when people are becoming increasingly aware of the developments in the market and possible speculations, it must be pretty hard for the whales to set the rules (if it ever was!), so I don't know what to believe and how to react to a particular situation and who I can trust.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: fritzpaulusha on August 28, 2018, 11:14:05 AM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

1. Don't use advises of pump and dump groups. They are cheaters.
2. Buy only coins in which success (in the long term) you believe or which utility is useful for you (for example tokens of some exchanges).


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Sentinel211 on August 28, 2018, 12:03:08 PM
Avoiding manipulation could be pretty hard, but not impossible. Don't forget to turn on your critical thinking! I might be wrong, but when a lot of people start screaming 'bitcoin is going to die,' or 'this is your last chance to sell your Bitcoin with profit,' or 'bitcoin is dead,' or any other shit like that, something in my head snaps and I literally can hear a whisper in my head, 'They're pulling your prick! Keep on holding!' I don't really have a recipe of how to do it consciously, but with a little help of concentration everyone can master it, I guess 8)


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: lavishlifing on August 28, 2018, 04:35:30 PM
The easiest way is to stay away from shitcoins, coins
that gained hundreds of percent, that is way too obvious
to tell that it is a pump and dump coin, choose those coins
that are more stable


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: doanlang on August 28, 2018, 06:01:48 PM
Just like stocks are traded on the floor or on commissions, Cryptocurrency is a prime target for pump and dump aimed at scam or creating FOMO and FUD waves to the market. For those with purchasing power, it's a easy way to get rich quick by making the price. For others, nine out of ten, you will lose. This is one of the reasons people do not trust Bitcoin.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Hamstead on August 28, 2018, 10:29:23 PM
Just like stocks are traded on the floor or on commissions, Cryptocurrency is a prime target for pump and dump aimed at scam or creating FOMO and FUD waves to the market. For those with purchasing power, it's a easy way to get rich quick by making the price. For others, nine out of ten, you will lose. This is one of the reasons people do not trust Bitcoin.
Definitely they may have enough power to make some market manipulation but it doesn't mean that they take control of everything. Many people get loss just because they only knew for basic and not have time to learn more and dig deeper. 


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: srcnckr on August 28, 2018, 11:12:33 PM
Just like stocks are traded on the floor or on commissions, Cryptocurrency is a prime target for pump and dump aimed at scam or creating FOMO and FUD waves to the market. For those with purchasing power, it's a easy way to get rich quick by making the price. For others, nine out of ten, you will lose. This is one of the reasons people do not trust Bitcoin.
The potential of this market is huge but the volatility is too much because the market capitalization is very small. I believe that as the market grows, there will be no more bad news going on. I am confident that cryptocurrency will make a new history.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: jasonjenks on August 28, 2018, 11:35:09 PM
You are right, big companies manipulate the price of cryptocurrencies, freeing yourself completely is difficult, I believe that you have to analyze the market very carefully and invest at low prices as much as possible.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ngefek berat on August 29, 2018, 02:56:46 AM
Indeed with the occurrence of the game, the trader must who accepts all forms of risk when making an investment because someone who panics immediately when prices often experience automatic turmoil losses are hard to avoid and makes them afraid to invest in the future.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ultimo5 on August 29, 2018, 03:40:43 AM
We need to look back on the past and study.

"Whales" don't buy & sell by hand.
To generate a massive transaction, You need something. It's a very elaborate program.
These are set up with a specific algorithm using the APIs provided by the exchange.
From Stock Exchange System to Current Crypto Exchange System, they left a lot of algorithms behind.
So, We need to analyze these algorithms.

Past 2014, There was a pattern to lower the low point, repeating the drop and the rise after a tremendous rise.
It's part of the pattern that chart analysts say.
It's not necessarily the same thing. I think they're going in a similar direction.
Thank you.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: bitcoinerjawa on August 29, 2018, 04:19:35 AM
yes you really have a pump and dump tactics you have to be able to use the movement to be able to get a lot of profit not to miss it.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: gabmen on August 29, 2018, 05:19:49 PM
Just like stocks are traded on the floor or on commissions, Cryptocurrency is a prime target for pump and dump aimed at scam or creating FOMO and FUD waves to the market. For those with purchasing power, it's a easy way to get rich quick by making the price. For others, nine out of ten, you will lose. This is one of the reasons people do not trust Bitcoin.
The potential of this market is huge but the volatility is too much because the market capitalization is very small. I believe that as the market grows, there will be no more bad news going on. I am confident that cryptocurrency will make a new history.

Well as long as people have enough assets to start  pump or a dump, it will always be there. Though i think it's not impossible to ride these whales and take their pump and dump schemes to one's advantage.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: tnabielec on August 29, 2018, 05:25:13 PM
I'd recommend staying away from Pump N' Dumps, channels related to it and pretty much everything related to it. Sure you can make couple bucks but the money-makers in PnD's are the organizers who have bought the about-to-be-pumped coins long time before announcing the pump. They rely on community buying it on large amounts after the pumps has been announced and sell it to the buyers, making a bank.

Do not do it, you may make couple bucks couple times but you only need to get dumped on once and you've lost what you gained and more.

Stay away from them.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: posi on August 30, 2018, 11:44:21 AM
Just like stocks are traded on the floor or on commissions, Cryptocurrency is a prime target for pump and dump aimed at scam or creating FOMO and FUD waves to the market. For those with purchasing power, it's a easy way to get rich quick by making the price. For others, nine out of ten, you will lose. This is one of the reasons people do not trust Bitcoin.
The potential of this market is huge but the volatility is too much because the market capitalization is very small. I believe that as the market grows, there will be no more bad news going on. I am confident that cryptocurrency will make a new history.

Well as long as people have enough assets to start  pump or a dump, it will always be there. Though i think it's not impossible to ride these whales and take their pump and dump schemes to one's advantage.
You're right wen you said there's nothing we can do about the whales dump and pump act but we can definitely ride with them by taking advantage of the situations which you seems not to believe. Do you know how many smart investors will benefit from the last market correction? Only those who are not fit for cryptocurrency will loose hope or won't seize the opportunity they have to recover their losses by buying dip.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: ncn1992vn on September 01, 2018, 08:23:00 AM
Since participating in this market you must understand that it is a risky investment
How to you do not be fooled as there is sufficient knowledge and realize it


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: LuciferEveningStar on September 01, 2018, 12:30:23 PM
Since participating in this market you must understand that it is a risky investment
How to you do not be fooled as there is sufficient knowledge and realize it

Risk is natural in this industry because the market prices are based on supply and demand so you cannot always expect a profit, patience is more important rather than your own strategy.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: karavay_71 on September 01, 2018, 09:21:32 PM
I think that it surely takes place in reality, whales seek for their profits and organize all this kind of things.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Davidbugs2 on September 01, 2018, 09:39:11 PM
I have faced huge losses due to these pumps and dumps gropus and their calls. I recommend you to stay away from those groups and calls. Never sell of your coin at low price.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: dlaniger31 on September 01, 2018, 09:52:52 PM
You must also your own tactics against the whales, dont buy at a higher price. Don't go with the whales who will buy to make the market go up. Just be patient and wait fornthe dump. They play like that so we must also play with it. Just remember buy low and sell high.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Juliedarwin on September 01, 2018, 10:22:48 PM
As you know, one of the most popular kinds of manipulations on the cryptocurrency market. Big players on the cryptocurrency market are known as whales. They can manipulate the cryptocurrency price using the tactic “Pump and dump”. Whales buy a lot of cryptocurrency in several days causing price increases. This attracts new investors to the cryptocurrency because hamsters want to buy more cryptocurrency in hopes that the price will be raising and they will be able to sell assets for the higher price. But this isn’t happening, because whales, after gaining a specified mark, begin to dump coins. In such way, whales get a profit, and the price of the cryptocurrency falls. How do you think how not to become the prey of such kind of whales` manipulations?
 

You have your own to make a decision, so you can make your own tactics against the whales. You should never listen from what they said, just go with the flows. They can do, they can work, and the best you can also do from what they do,. So You can do it also from your own tactics whether is it pump or dump.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: blockdragon on September 01, 2018, 10:25:42 PM
Personally I don`t buy a coin when it is risen more than 10% and fortunately until today I haven`t become a pray for this tactics, of course sometimes opportunities pass but it is better not to lose than not to win.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: TGD on September 02, 2018, 12:01:34 AM
Personally I don`t buy a coin when it is risen more than 10% and fortunately until today I haven`t become a pray for this tactics, of course sometimes opportunities pass but it is better not to lose than not to win.
Well a better option for everything that you can may do will be the best for you, everyone can have their own perspective so whenever you have a chances to be you can be chosen what would be your way of it.


Title: Re: The pump and dump tactic
Post by: Adrin on September 04, 2018, 03:55:15 PM
Both are profitable if we catch the perfect time. If you can make sure about catch the bottom line or point for drop I mean the point where is the last point of drop then sure you can make huge profit if you buy  any coin. Opposite if you sell when a coin remain in the top point. For day trading every 1 hours you can see that market drop or up. So you can make profit easily if your target will be 1%. Another tactic is buy any coin all holders or buyers at a time for make the market pump and sell all the holders or seller at a time for make the market dump. Thus a group can make profit.